THE WlLSlIJiJGTON GAZETTE-
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Number 943.]
WILMINC.TON, (North-Carolina) rHUMSi)AY, FEBRUARY *3, 1815.
[Volume XVlUl]
Hon. Mr. Lloyd’s Letter
TO THE
HON. JOHN RANDOLPH,
OF RojyoKi:,
t-ATt A MEMBER or CONC.ItESJ FROM THE
HATE »t VIKClSIA.
Cmctuikit fr»m Btir Imt paper.'}
But you tell us thiii tne state of
New-York, that great, thriving, and
populous member of the Southern
Confederacy" unless she is in a state
of utter blindness as to her own inter
ests. will not only leave us to work
out our own salvation, and make our
peace with Great-Britain as wc can,
but will present so ircesistablu and
hostile froiuitr to the Union of Hart
ford, as you have been pleased to
term it, that even one of her iicari st
Counties, if I undei stand you cor-
roclly, would be an over match for
*omc of the States that w ill compose
«• %
Of this great, thriving and respec
table tiK-mber of the present Union,
of the Southern Coni deiai y never
—I shall most Certainly h]ieak with
respect anil even reverence.—Of her
interests in case of a division, that
worst of all possible political events,
except a systematically tyrannical
oppression of any part o) the United
States—t f what she might lie with
out us, 1 will not comment, other
than so far as may be necessary.’ to
state, that merely on the considera
tion of the point of interest, I difier
fiuin you toto cailo—while 1 agree
with you most fully, that ihe present
is iiotih-^ pvriod to moot this point at
length, ii-ir any other connected with
it.—But sp- .iking of Isexv-York 'on
this occasion, I cannot lorbea'' to say
—she isihi Sister of our affections
tlie best Ih loved ol New-England—
she is bone of onr bone and flesh of
our flesh—geographically she is
without ou’- limits, but morally, and
Bocia'ly, she is completely within
them—' be has in a great degree the
same h.ibiis—the same feeling—the
same ednc.’.tioii—our population is
her popui itinn, and her population
is ours—ibt greater port of the coun
ties of the western paiT of the State
ofNew-York are settled from New-
Engliinrt, with which from tlteir
proximity a constant intercourse is
preserved and all our family feelings
and aflVciions are kept in full pi ly.
She may be lured from her patli of
duty fora moment, ly a desi.mtive
fiitnily ambition, and avaiiie—she
may bccoipe for a time the favored
child of the bounty of the National
Ciovernm. nt—her sack may be fil
led with leu times double the poriion
of Benjamin of the fat things of the
land, and the fruits of the earth, from
the table and the gi anari. s of Pha-
roah; but depend upon it, should
the period ever come when she must
make so ungrateful an election—she
will not burst the chords of affiniiy,
and tear asunder all tlie liest aflec-
tions, and tender liens of the haman
heart. She will return sgain to the
land of Canaan, to the household of
her friends and her brethren ;—and if
division rhust ensue, she c.annot pos
sibly under any imaginable concate
nation of events, so far coinpronsit
her dignity, or stoop from her pride
of place, as to sink, when she might
h- come the leading power, the Polar
Star of a Northern Union, into the
Arriere Guard of a Southern Con
federacy, or consent to play a second
fiddle to Pennsylvania, or to rank
herself as an attendant satellite, a
submissive, though distant follower
ol the fortunes of Virginia.
But I again repeat, a discussion of
none of these subjects is grateful to
me, and it will be, I fear, too appa
rent fioin ample internal evidence,
that I have treated of tlicm “ invita
Minerva,” lor although not exactly
impressed into the service, I am al
most as little of a volunteer in it as if
I had been. Indeed, considering
vour letter as addressed to the pub
lic niihcr thin to myself, and to
Virgimii, perhaps, as much as to
IMassachusets, I had, until a few
days since, concluded not to reply to
it. But further reflection, ami other
opinions, and believing that the stron-
E*:8t bond by which the Unioa tan
be sustained, is a due and high res
pect for oui stives, and for each oibcr
pud that the inhabitants of the si-''’'-'
f.il parts of it ought not by their si
lence to suffer their resiiective divi-
Aons erroneously to be depreciated,
hfiwcver unintentionally it may have
h^ien done, have induced me to de.
jnirt from mv original delennination
nud to mldiess to v ou the present
ieltcT, wliicb, protracted as it is, I
have Btiil endeavored to confine to
the more prominent of your remarks
for had I not have prescribed to my
self this limit, I should have written
a volume instead even of a long let
ter. For when the liglitning fl isbes
and irradiates, at every extremity ol
the horizon, a repeated and extended
scope of vision can alone embrace it.
—And if in the course of the reply,
more of warmth than I am aware of,
has, or may attach, to any sentiments
or expressions contained in it, )au
may be assured they are entirely des
titute of anv personal relerencc what
ever, and appertained exclusively to
the subject to which du y relate ; lor
I can verv tiulysay, that in pniimr-
lion as opportunities for the d ve-
lopement of your character haia:
been presented to me, in the same
propoition has beem presented to nie,
in the same proportion has been the
increase of iny estimation and respect
for it.
Unreasonable however as it mav
seem, 1 must ask y mr patience yet a
little longer for a lew further remarks
before I close this letter.
In the course of iny unimportant
life, it has been iny stdulons endea
vor to avoid pei'siinalit'.es, whenever
a sense of duty did not compel me
to avert to them, and I would most
willingly still adhere to this practice j
but you have presented the Ex-Pre-
sidei.t of the United States in so bold
releifin your letter, that in replying
1 know not Will how to avoid noti
cing it, without appearing to concur
in the sentiments you have advaneed.
Ofthis venerable gentleman, now
passed the common age of man, anti
living in retirement at his seat m ar
this town, with his faculties as I un
dersuind unclouded, and his heart
beating warmly lor the fate of his
countrywhose head has been bleach
ed by the hoar ol fifty winters devo
ted to its service, and whose intergri-
ty has never been questioned, I have
little personal acquaintance, not ha
ving to my recollection met him in
private society more than once since
the expiration of his presidency ; al
though I have been honored by his
civility—but his public life is fami
liar to every Tyro among us who has
any knowledge of tb« political histo
ry of his country, and notwithstan
ding he may have his foibles, and
perhaps partaking of the complexion
of his character, some of them strong
ones too, yet that history will in my
opinion afford many brilliant pages in
his favor to future biography, and
many lasting claims on the gratitude
of his countrymen, whose sense of
their obligation, was most honorably
manifested by bis el v.ition to the
highest station, to wliieli the voice of
seven millions of free people could
advance him—not by any flaw of the
popular gale, for if I duly estimate
his character, he never possessed the
qualities that could either catch the
breeze or retain it, butasthe leward
and acknowledgement of a long se
ries of able and faithful and meritori
ous services.
Of his administration, I am not
now about to speak at large, but
however discordant public opinion
may be on this subject, on the earlier
part of it I could dilate con-amore,—
for at no time since our existence as
a nation have the best feelings of the
American bosom beat inoie in har
mony with the finest impulses of na
tional respect, and of patriotism, than
during the period when their Presi
dent c.illed on them to avenge the
wrongs and insults of the French
Republic ; and when he himself stre
nuously endeavored to lay the broad
foundations of n highly respectable
and permanent navid arid military es
tablishment, which if continued,,che
rished, and duly, but moderately ex
tended, would probably have secured
our peace to this day, or if war had
not been averted, might ere this
have given you Quebeck. if yon
wanted it ; and have provided\a!>
much loud for the attention of the’
British ministry in keeping posses
sion of Basbcterree, anil Port-Royal,
as they now seem to find, in procu
ring and retaining, that of Custine,
and New-Orlcan.s.—lAIore than this,
his system would have made us feci
we were a people,—a band o'l bro
thers,—'hat we also had a country to
love, and a reputation to emblazon or
disgrace.—But he built u|JOn the
sand—his own missions to France-
the great shade- in his presidential es
cutcheon, paralized the public fee
ling, and Weakened the ioundations
of this goodly edifice, while the eu-
cyclopa’diasts of the day, the Vol
taire;, the Uosseaus, the Diderots, and
the D’Alemberts of our country, as-1 to the oflier states, and the business
saile’if him.—*• And the rain anl the is us surely done, ns that a lunscrip-
floods came, anil the winds blew, St j lion bill wuuld become an act of tlie
beat upon that liiaise, and it fell; and I g'lV'rrnncit, if it waited only the
great was tlie fall:hen of.” sign.iturc of the president to complete
“ One oihir p/litical enquiry shall it.
alone detain you, ’'rul it is irifinittly You may however tell us, that
the most interesting ib.ii-.an n ov be |ytiur “ Englisii blood” (and there is
propoiiiuleil. Is ili-.-re no door still I none betiei J will not suffer you to da
opeu ue) avenue yet left, by whirli we j this, In taose your enemy says you
may, by remaniliag '.> the i averns of [ shal/, and Massachusetts says you
the deep the iav.i wliicll is t:vi-n now , d , something like it, as the
bubbling at ll;e moiub of tli; voka'io, pri.'.e of peace with the one and Union
escape not only the evils of the pn - ' with the other.”—How far you ivoiiM
Sfiit hour, hut secure to us tlie bl"*.- ■ dunk it right, oi ^ xpedient, to reject
sings of the future ? I think tie re is,'
and what max make it siil! mure-
' d.ose measures which you 'adiim pet
lujis to be neCLSsa/y, and indeed
would, some of them otherwise be
Cert linly adojjiid, because your sis
ter iM issathuscUs accords wuh you
most e.u'rely that they ought to be,
hut har happened to cxpri ss that o-
I'lnioii .1 little too abruptly, I leave
lor your Oettcr jiidg iient to deler-
iiiine.—Tiirtl all foreign dictation, St
espeeiaily that ol om uiimediate ene
my should lie resisted, usque a I i'l-
lernetioiieiii, i agree w idi you most
fully ; or r.uh, r 1 admit it ought to
t)C repelhd at ev. ry hazard, sliort of
bulTei ing our pride, and oui passions,
l>y t'i'imig in .lid ol the poliey ol that
the Unitl'il States, and within that i^ne.ny, to funush theweaponsofour
under a population equal ‘‘'y.'' destiueiion.
W'ith si ntiin. nts of great esteem,
i am, Dear Sir,
grateful to you, is, that we are wil
ling to be indebted to the Intel est, the
liberality, the magiianimity .of Vir
ginia, to give it to us.—It follows
Abrogate the rnpresent.ition founded
on sla'.’es, a pr'ivisioti offensive to
freemen at all times, and unneces
sary to you, as your influence
M'lmld he predominant .vithout it—
take bark with it, if you pirase, the
tliscriminating duties, and appor
tion the direct taxes upon the free
white |>opulatlo.i of the cou iiry.
Interdict tlti. future admission of new
States beyond the old territory of
territory,
at least in point of numbers to iliat
of the smnlh St state in the union,
at the time of the admission.
Restrict the services d'the President
to a single term, increase that term,
if it lie thought Ih,-sI, to six years.
Divide the United Slates into four
great sections, from each of which
a President shall ke selected in
turn and in snceessUm only.
Do this, and if the present incum
bent cannot command tie confidence,
or elicit the resources of the nation—
if he can neither make peace nor pro
secute the war, coerce him with his
immediate dependants ^o retire from
oflice--voluntarily as U form if you
can—constitutionally if you must.- -
Elect Mr. King to the Presidency-
place a distinguished Virginian inthe
Department of State, or when an op
portunity may present, at the court
of St. James’—or, if s.dl another ob
lation be necessary to the supremaLy
of Virginia, we will not quaiTel a-
bout names or shades of diflefence—
place Judge Marshall, the piesent
Chief Justice ol tlie United States,
ill the Ciiairol State, and Mr. King
in the Ficc Presidency, and fid up the
subordinate departnu nU of the go
vernment with men, of any party, or
from any- of the Suites in the Union,
provided the candidates possessed the
requisite qualifications ul talent, in
tegrity, and reputatimi, to comiiiaiid
th'’ confidence of the nation. T'liis
being done, should the cummissiuti-
ers leturt, fiom Ghent re-infecta, j,, prior to the
dcsiiatch immediately an honorable satis.y and diselia. ge, claims
ill favor ol the citizens ui this state.
Your Very respectful and
Obedient servant,
JAMES LLOYD.
Boston, fan, 19 1815.
Legislature of Ohio.
Decemiier 91.
Mr. Barnet, from the joint com
mittee ef Finance, reported on Mon
day last the following resolutions ;
which Were adopted by the House of
Representatives.
Resolved by thr General Assembly
of the stale ol Ohio, That the Gover
nor be requested to open a correspon
dence wiiii the Secretary of the Irea-
sury of the United States, for the
purpose of ascertaining on wh ’.t con
ditions this state will be pennil'.ed to
assume and pay her proportion oi the
direct tax of the United States, to be
assessed ou this state, for the year
1815—and that he use his influence
to obtain ihe privilege of disbursing
the whole or a part thereof in dis-
cfiargiiig claims against tlie United,
that now exist, or tint may lierc.dtcr
accrue, in favor of the citizens of
tills state, for the pitiposc of enabling
the 1 gislaiutc to assume the pay-
intnt, without being required to make
lui inline diate aiiv..nce.
Resolved; 1 bat the Governor be
Affnirixt Postponement.—iMessrs.
Marliuur, Brown, Ciiase, D.iggi-it,
D.ina, l-’iomentin, (iermaii, Giles,
Gold-djoroiigh, Gore, Horsey, Hun
ter, King, Lambert, Mason, Robin
son, Tail, Thompson, Wells, Wh.ir-
lon.—20.
So the Senate refused to posipuno
the Ijill.
On motion of Mr Gih's,
The Serial.; then determined to re
cede Iroii) ns disagreements wilhtho
Hiiuse. and adjonmed.
[File hill v.aiiis only the signature
of til-; 1‘.- sideii'. 'o oecome a law.]
IN SENA I E Alon- 'au. f amtary, 30.
Mr (J'll. s, the I’re-si.l nt’s S’-cre-
tary returned the bill ‘'to incoipo-
rale the subs, ril)i '-s to tiie baiik of
the Ih St'ites ul A ncrica,” vviiti Uto
following mess ‘ge :
Co the S\ .i.ile of the L\ d".
Hav ing b. si )w..d o I tile-bill, cn-
titled *• An -ct to incorporate- tho
sabsiribers o ilie hank ot ihc U.iited
Sihti sof A.neiiea,” th it full ConaiaC-
r.uiuii which is due lo the great im«
poriaiice of the su JeCt, anu dictated
Oy the- respect vvlinh I feel for the
two tious's ol congress, 1 am cou«
strained, i>v' a deep a n, sulcina con
viction, that the r-ill ua^iu r. >t to be
come- a law, to I. u... it t) the Se
nate. i.i which I: nginated, with
my oujcelions tv i,ic same.
Waving the qj jilon of the c-vn-
sti.u.ioiial autho .ty ot the Legisla
ture to esiabii.h .11 incorporateil bank
as beiag prccluaed, i.i in\ judgment,
by repe III J recog-iiti.ins, on.ler va
ried eircumstances, o; the vaitduy of
siieh an instui'.tiop, in acts, oi tha
flgislaii'-r, exeeolive, and jvulicval
b.aiiehes of the guvcrniuciiL, accoia-
paiue-d l>y iildieat.onS i.i eivtfercDt
modes, of a cuiicui reiice ot tlie ge
neral will ot the nation ; the pre>i>j-
sed bank docs no. .i,ip ar to be caU
culatcd to ,ni>wer the paipose oi re
viving the pu'jHc credit, UI , ovidiog
a national iiicdium ot circulation and
of aiding in • treasury by lacil ta-
tiug the indisp. nsi'jle antieij^atious
of the revenue’, .md by all iruing to
the public more dm able iu.nts.
1. rtic capital of the L.iok i.sto be
compounded of sp.-cit', oi publia
stock, vvitii a ce-itani piop.ntioii of
e-a.h ofwnich every suosc.ioer is to
furnish hiiiiseli.
iiie amount of the stock ro be sub
scribed will not, it is beii.ved, lie
sufficient to produce, in t.iv or of (ha
public credit, any co.isul.rable or
lasting devaiion ot the- in..: xet price,
whilst till-, may be oeciisiu.-jaliv de
pressed oy the- bank itse-ii, ir it snould
curry into the market the- aitowed
proportion ot its tajni.ii con-sisting of
authorised and requeaieU, in case the I m proeuie spe-
- - - - ■ . 'V ill-*'It may find
Unile-ilStaieswill pe-rinitthcdisbuisc-
ment to be atade as aforesaid, to sti i
’ - f t v r. 1
111.
u account la
vviUi some s.tcrifice on
puiaie on the part of
Pit nipotcntiuiy to London ; let him
offer, at a single interview, after the
preseiii.ition of his crcdenti.ils, the
ohve branch of peace, hy agreeing to
terminate a war commenced in rash
ness and folly, and prosecuted with
defeat and disgrace, on (he single ba
sis of the “ status ante bellum.” If
this w ere accepted we would then go
to woik most cheerfully to repair the
errors and injuries of the past, and to
; liiis state, tl.at
le ft: St d:.y of J u- Yt-- aclvant.vge
arise to tlie puuiic vreilii iiom the
wiio may be authorised by the U ii-
Ced Stales to itemabd p.iyinent at tilc
treasury of this st.ite, to the fall a-
inouat tiiat this slate will be rtquirtd
to pay by assuming her proportion ol
the direct t.ix.
Resolved, That the Governor be
requested to use his influence to ob
tain an arrangement, by which
claims due to the citizens ul this state
forgive and forget the .authors of them. I supplies
H, unexpectedly, sncli terms were ,^1 wished bv them, be satisfied in pre-
rejected, let the same vessel that car- to anv other description ol
ned the Envoy to Europe, wait him
[ I'hus Ohio leads the way, in a-
diqiCiiig the advice recumiiicndeJ to
the states, in the first Resolve ct Uie
Hartford Cuuvctitioii.]
back again acioss the Atlantic, when,
as soon as the result of his mission
was known, the nation would indig
nantly and instantly, placing its
shoulders at the wheel, and fervent
ly addressing its piaycrs to Him r-OMr"
“ who rides upon the whirlwind, and
directs the storm,” for a successful IN SEN A I’E,/Vfi/uy, ya;i 20,
issue to that coiffest, which their hoii- Alter disposing ot oiner business,
est endeavors could not avert, mail-1 among which was the question as to
lully meet the issue ; and a struggle,} the riglit oi Mr Bledsoe, to a vote,
thus unavoidable, with the undiviilnd | which was decided in the iieg ilive—
energies of the country at iiiecoin-1 The Senate resumed the coiiiidc-
manu of the government, I sliould 1 ratian ol the aiiieiidmciiis to the Hank
‘have a humble but (inn reliance, it! bill.
would neitlier be a long nor 11 doubi-, The question on Mr. Bibb’s nio-
ful one.
Bat you vvill ask how is ail this to
be effected—1 answer, great a.s the
work may lie, vviiii an liontst zeal,
it is the work only of a few months.
The Legislature of the Union i.s now-
in session—iliat of your own state is,
or will he shortly, as vvill be those of
most of the states.—Let \’iigiiiia
take the lead, and promptly adojit
these ameiatmciiis—let lier iaiilifullv’,
and fairly, use litr influeiice with licr
family connexions to foliow her ex-
am|)le—let her H’(|llest her sciiatoi*
and representaiivi’s at VV'ashiiigtoii,
to have them submitted by congicss
tion to postpone to the 2il ivloiid.iy in
Miircii (to lejectj tiie lurilier coiisi-
derialoii ol the siilijeet, being yd un
der coiisidfiation-—
A very able and highly interesting
debate took place, in tin: couise of
vviiich Air. Ilililj, I'll!'. Tayl.ir and
•Mr. Roberts supporte I ihe aHirma-
tivc, and Mr. 1.lies tile negative side.
T lie (Jill slioii i. as decided at a
file hour a.s fofli.ws :
For pos'p'.nehtcnt—Messrs. An
derson, Bibh, Coiwlit, (jailtard, How
ell, Kerr, Lacock. Morrow, Roberts,
.Smiili, Ta'. lor, T’urncr, \ arnuin
Walker If.
Se
puuiic ireilii Horn the
subscripdon ol I - -rt-stiiy Notes.
1 he aceetal is-.ue oi i.:>c-,e ii..>t, s near
ly equals, at present, and wiii seion
exceed the ainouiit to be subsc. lOcd
to the bank.
, The direct effect of this operiuUin
is Simply to eonvert 15 .i.i.lio.is of
Treasuiy Not s tiiio fiii.en m.niowa
ol SIX per cent stocs, with the col
lateral efl’cet of promoting an .uldi-
liuiul demand tor urasa>) noccs,
Oeyond vvtut might uineiwjue be ue-
gutiable.
Public credit might i.iJetd be ex
pected to tlerive auvantage Iroiu the
e.stahlislni)ent oi' a ii.iuuiiai Ii.ins:,
without regard lo the tormatiem of
its capital, if the full a.id co opera
tion ol the institution werb secured
to the govermiieat duriug the war,
and during the per'iud ol its fist.'il
cmbarrassiiients.—But the hnnk ,im
posed will be tree from all legal ooii-
g. tlion to eu-operatc With the pnliiic
measures; and wh.uever be the pa
triotic disposition of its ilireciors to
coiitriliiue to the remov.il of tlijse
eniharr.tssmcius, ana to invigorate
the pros.;cutioii of the war, fidelity to
the (Jccuiiury and general iiit-rest of
the lll.^titutioll, according lo their es
timate of it, mij'hi oblige ihein to
decliiie a conne.xioii of their opera-
lions with those of the nuiional irca-
Bury, liming the coiuiiinuiK-e of the
w tu' and the clinictiliits iaeij. nt to it.
i'einporary b.icriliccs ol inteicst,
thougli (.verbai.itici d Ly the future
and pelinaneiit jn-ofits oi liie chuiier,
not being requiralile of liglit in be-
h. ilf ot the public, niighi not be gra-
Initoiiily made ; and liie bank Would
reap the lull benefit ot the gi-lil,
whilst the j.'uhlie would lose tile e-
quivalelit cx|jecti-d lunr; it. For it
nui-it be kept in v lew, ih .t the sole in
due eineut to such a grat.i, on the par