nhoif Xo. ;ro. Tavborough, (Edgecombe County, X. C) Saturday, September o, 1835. Vol. XIJo. 36. I'OK THE TARtO ROUGH PRKSS. 'JV fnnii: h snaio.uut of the Catholic Trap. (continiitul froi'i our lust paper.) I'urllitT proof is, that in ail rounii ies, ours not excepted, the Pro ' jt'n'liyioti and the Catholic religion are diverse, and mean two 1 v;, ;,:! distinct religious. I cite as proof, all the histories of '!: 0 .A Africa, ami the two Americas. This is a fact not to Venial- Then I would ask the Convention, how can you amalga lL,teor metamorphose these two distinct religions, so as to make out '- them what you rail the Christian religion, when all the histories i , .v.irlil are against you? IVr if von do not make a horse of ,u,j a j.u-k ol tlte other, 1 am sure you cannot make out this mule I'uirdl tlie Christian religion. If they have alwavs heen known in ; I l(ie ,jstnries of the world, and even in our own country and day, be two distinct religions, how will you unite them now so as to u them mean the same thing; or to take them both to make the ('iiiaii ieli-;ion? I told you in the outset It could not be done. Ti eti it" the Catholic religion be the Christian religion, the Protestant Vioii cannot so vice versa. Nor is there proof to he had, that Vrotestaul religion' can be called the Christian religion; but, rs there is proof upon proof that the Catholic religion can be call j tI . e Christian religion with propriety, anu has been so called lor i,00 years. And it was for this reason, in my opinion, that the tiijime was wanted; for the Catholic religion was called the Chris Mi) rcliuion for 1200 years, in all the histories of Europe, before ,,'ie wum of the Protestant religion was heard of. Hut now the Con vt juijii will make a marriage between the mother of harlots and the I'r.itestauis, and thus ulake out the Christian religion. Sirs, I tell v i the much cannot be allowed I forbid the banns, and think I u II .how jtit cauM'for so doing before I am done. Tiun if the Catholic religion existed 1200 years ami was called i'.ie Christian religion, before the existence of the Protestant religion, j ,u;elv tlicv cannot be the same this is clear. One of the two is ;';:e Christian religion, and it docs not take them to be incorporated to mike the Christian religion. Then what a squabble ami mighty trmmil of contention the alteration you have proposed makes in this Sute, for Catholics and Protestants to contend about; and w ho is to W the arbiter in this dispute? the Supreme Court? Good heavens deliver u?! for Protestants cannot help seeing that it must go against t;ifm, and that they must be again smashed under the paw of this a.-reJ beast, that had the deadly wound and was healed. Then 1 set it down as a point that cannot be overturned, from his- Ui-ial facts, that the Catholic religion is not the Protestant religion;: bit tint thev are two distinct leligions, known to be so in all nations, ail oi the face of all historical records and that the Convention! , nKiut make the Christian religion out of them both; that one or the , o;her must, when proof is souunt, be left out in the article Christian ; region And I contend that that word shuts out the Protestants j Ibtii office, and admits the Catholics; lor the Protestants will never fail to deny the religion of the Catholics to be the Christian religion,! and the Catholics will claim that theirs only is the Christian religion;; and thus at loggerheads w e go in church and State the Lord deliver j is from this whirlpool of State and church distress. j Then let the argument stand thus: Jesus Christ was the founder of the Christian religion this will not be denied. Next, the Christian religion was established in the year of the world 4033, or thereabouts i -this will not be denied. Next, by the Chritian religion is to be j u'tderstoo-i that system of faith, doctrines, ordinances, practices, and: Vcipline Christ Jnd his apostles taught this, I presume, will not he j tailed. Next, that this Christian religion, which had its believers,: is called the Christian church this also, 1 presume, will not be taiied. Taking these a admitted and granted, the questions at once j ariie on us with force, who was Christ? what wa5 the system of reli-, irian he taught? what were its doctrines and its ordinances? what hi il of people were those that composed the first Christian church? Wyou can see the field of contention and argument opening on yujwitli the last question, which of the sects comes nearest theChris- . ' i churt b, the Catholics or any of the Protestant seels? As the ru!i dies form one religion, ami all Protestant sects form but one l;1 rriigiun; thus the whole Christian world is concentrated in the two reli-iiun, less or more. For all Protestants of all sects a ,ive in ihiS) j,, protesting against the Catholic religion; and equally - ' the Catholics agree, in declaring their religion the only Christian 'thmon, nnd their church the only spouse of Christ; this is the con- .'rovmy. and who is to settle ita" each put up their claim to be Christian church, and theirs the Christian religion. Then all we lave lo do to decide the argument, is to show by proof what Christian religion is, and what the Protestant religion is; and this I l'ow that the Catholic religion is not the Protestant religion, 'd that the Protestant religion is not the Catholic religion, and that 'cannot and does not take them both to make the Christian religion; will further, hew which has the best claim to be called the Chris ton religion. Then the first thing we have to do is, to show what the Christian rt,1?iois is, and that by proof, to settle the argument. And first, we have some standard to try bv; and I contend, and it cannot be :ien'e, that the New Testament is the first book and the most histor !al record, that treats of the origin, rise and progress of the Chris 1,311 religion; and that it is therefore to be tried by this book, in order l" kn out what the Christian religion is, and what it is not. Then Cf,l'te.i,l t,;tt what is called the United Haptists, when tried by this !'Uias the best claim to be called the Christian church; and their -'grille, ordinance aud discipline, or the whole system of their faith, called the Christian religion and the Christian church; and that y come higher and their claim is better founded than that of any :'rlSftrl this Slate, when tried by the New Testament. But, '' l!ie legislature or Supreme Court try by this book, and say "J (:,rislian religion is? No, Sir, neither kings, parliaments, ,,.! ."hj'lltnes' l0Pes f"1- their councils, courts of inquisition, nor elasl'u:al judicatures try by this book what the Christian religion ; ' 'i they did, Protestants would never have had any thing to have U I eave die field of argument aud free enquiry open, unaided ( and Protestantism has never had any thing to fear. Indeed 'ws driven back Popery, backed by law, fire and sword; and ob ' "J Wore than an equality and toleration in the nations of the J'.1'1' u"t now Catholicism wants to trample her under foot again, 2 1 she can never do unaided by law. Then instead of trying the o! the christian religion, and which is the Christian church, by the New Testament, resort has always been had by statesmen in all countries to history, the opinions of the fathers of the church, com mon, general, and public opinion; these have been their proofs with popish councils, popish canons, and ancient customs of the church, to establish what the nations have called the Christian religion; how ever foreign that religion has failed being supported by express clau ses from the New Testament. To show that the United Baptists have the best claim to the Chris tian religion, and of thfir being the Christian church, in a short wav is not a hard matter to do, by the New Testament, for it is full of proof to that effect. And to show by the New Testament, that the Catholic religion is the Christian religion, cannot be done; for the doctrine of the Catholics, in the New Testament, is called the doc trine of devils; and the church a whore, which h is committed forni cation with the kitigs of the earth; and the church said to be the habitation of devils, and the Pope anti-Christ, and of course the Ca tholic church his wife all of which I shall not take lime to explain. But to prove by history, aud popish councils, and the opinions of old time, and the history of nations, that the Catholic religion is the Christian religion, is an easy matter; and that no sect of Protest ants have, or can from history or ancient opinions claim to be the Christian church, is equally easy. Aud here it is that Protest ants have in all countries fell in the lurch; because their religion must be tried by statesmen, inquisitors, ecclesiastical courts and parlia ments; not by the New Testament, the only law by which their reli gion ought to be tried, as the standard of the Christian religion; but by history, old opinions, canons of Popes, and councils, aud ancient usages and customs. And when things have been tried this way, why the Protestants have always, with a few instances excepted, been condemned as heretics and unfit to live; and as having no claim to he of the Christian religion. And, indeed, Protestants might as well expect the devil to do justice between them and the Catholics, as a magistrate, a Legislature, or an ecclesiastical court; for they are tried by a w rong law, and of course the sentence must go against them the law being wrong by which they have been tried, thus the sentence has been always wrong also. So then according to the New Testament the Protestants have the best claim to the Christian religion; but according to history, old cus toms, traditions, and records of old time, (the New Testament ex cepted,) they have no claim; but must-surrender it to the Catholics, fts far more ancient in name that) the Protestants, by 1200 vears. Then to show thee claims will finish the argument. And first, I have already hinted that John the Baptist commenced preparing ma terials for t tie Christian church; Jesus Christ was cotemporary with him in preparing and founding the Christian religion; and after his death the first Christian church was founded in Jeiusalrm bv his apostles, aud from thence spreail throughout the extensive Roman empire; and hundreds of churches were foiiuded of baptised believ ers, seventeen of which can be proved from the New Testament, of which I cannot now speak for length sake particularly, but will give the public should 1 live in some future piece. From founding the first church in Jerusalem and its progress onwards, we may consider and date the rise of the Christian religion. Then from that time up to the year 132 J, the Christian church and of course the Christian re ligion, waded through lire, sword, persecution aud death. During this 323 years of the first progress of the Christian religion, there appeared many sects; first, B;issilides and his lollowers, about the year 120; the Valeniinians, a litilr after this time, 125; the Carpocra tians, about the same lime; the beihians, 150; the Montanists, 15C; the iMarcosians, 100; Hermogeiies, 160; Praxias, 190; Artemon, 200; Theodotus, 200; Novatus, 251; the Donitist, 32S all these men and sects were never called, not one of them, the Protestant religion; but the term used for these sects, in the general they were all denomina ted heretics; and the Christian church passed sentence on them, as not belonging to the Christian church, nor of the Christian religion. For during this 323 years, the church w as judge w hat was the Chris tian religion, and not Legislatures lior Supreme Courts; and al though heathenjudges and governors judged the Christians and their religion, yet they only called it a superstition. Now during this 33 years of the first progress of the Christian religion, the Christian church kept herself separate from all sectarian principles; for as these men and sects arot,e, she condemned them aud thrust them them her communion. Then w hen Constantine established the Christian reli gion by law, about the year 323 or 4, did lie establish any one of these sects? No, Sir, not one of them became the established religion of the Roman empire; but it was the ( hrislian church and the Chris tian religion, she herself being judge, aud who more capable of judging right! v than hersell, who was ol the Christian religion, and not a sectarian party. At this time, 323, when Constantine estab lished the Christian religion by law, Sylvester was Bishop of Home, and the Catholics say he was the thirty-fourth bishop in succession from Saint Peter. Bull say they have nothing to do with Saint Peter Peter did not plant the church in Borne, but Paul. This is proven from scripture, and they cannot prove from scripture that Christ ever gave the keys to Paul, but Peter. Then if they cannot prove that Paul had the keys given to him, let the Catholics give up the kevs; for they have stolen them, if they cannot prove their suc cession from Peter; which 1 defy them to do from any authentic re cord under heaven for Peter was an apostle to the Jews, and Paul planted the first Christian church at Borne. Aud further, I defy the Catholics to prove this succession of bishops for the first 300 years come forth, if you can do it. Then the Catholics may claim, and have a right to claim, according to history, councils, ancient writings, &ic. that they p(,ssess aud are die Christian church, and that their religion is the Christian religion, from the days of Sylvester and the establishment of Christianity by the lioman Emperor, to this day; and that no other religion is the Christian religion but theirs for as yet during this 300 years the Protestant religion is not heard of by name. From 323 up to 606, the Catholic religion continued to be the established religion of the Roman empire; when Boniface the IB. was proclaimed universal bishop of the christian church. So then, if it was the christian religion that was established by law by constantine, which no man can deny from history, then the Cath olic religion is that established christian religion, which no man that reads history dare deny. Then here is the place where the Protest ants have lost their claim to the christian religion in all ages? aud have been called herelies, from 606 up to 1 529. The Catholic reli gion, which i historically called the christian religion, but cannot be called so when tried by the New Testament, continued to be the established religion of Italy, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, aiid Kngland, with but little exceptions, as well as other countries, and was in all countries called the Christian religion; but by their oppo nents called popery, he. During ihisime of 1 500 yealS,allho, there were thousands and tens of thousands that opposed the Caholic reli gion, aud condemned it as not freing the christian religion; yet that it was the christian religion in its origin and its establishment by ( on stantine, none can deny. Then why they denied its being ihe c hris tian religion was, because the Catholics had changed every thing in the christian religion as respects doctrine, ordinances, discipline, &ic. into some fooleries that were not recognized by the New Testa ment; and it is the just the same now bv the Protestant sects, ytt no man dare deny that from history, and roni the proofs of sixteen councils held by the Christian church, that the catholics only, during this 1 500 years, are entitled to the name of the Christian church, ami their religion the Christian religion; and that the name Protestant religion was not then mentioned among the nations, as meaning a certain specific religion. Now from 323, the time of the establishing the christian religion by law, up to 1529, there arose a great many sects in opposition to the Christian church. The Pricilliauists 378, the Pelagians 405, the Samothracians, the Sabellians, the Arians, the Socmians, the Arminiaus, and many others the Waldeuses, the Ilugonots, ike. k.c. yet not one of these sects acquired the epithet of the Protestant reli gion; nor did any of them acquire the term of the christian church, or Christian religion, although they protested against the Catholic religion as much as Protestants do in this day. Then the matter is tairly made out by history, councils, ancient usages and customs, that the catholic religion is the christian religion; and that during 1500 years, no other sect was called or entitled to their religion being called the Christian religion, hue the Catholics. Thus 'when that clause of the Constitution shall be tried by Legislatures or Su premeCourts; and not by the scriptures, but by history, old councils, and mouldy records of Catholics, the Protestants may tuck tail and haste away with as much speed as sheep-killing dogs, and say, every man to his tent, North Carolina Protestants, we have no part in the Son of Jesse, nor in the otlices of the civii department of this Slate. Farewell, bright eyes, for there is nothing new under the sun and what has been may be again, is sound reasoning. Now I come to the claim the Protestants have for their religion to be called the christian religion, by history, old councils, he. wh-ch is just none at all for this name Protestant was first given in Ger many to the Lutherans, or those who adhered to the doctrine of Luther; because in 1529, they, the followers of Luther, protested against a decree of the Kmperor Charles the V. and the Diet of Spires for these Lutherans declared they would not submit to the Diet of Spires, but appealed to a General Council. The name was afterwards given to the followers of Calvin, and all that followed the reformation of that age, whether in France, Germany, Poland, or any other nation; and has long since, on the pages ol history, becon.e a general name or denomination for all sects which dissent from and oppose the catholic religion, no matter in what sect they may be found, nor in what country they may reside. This, then, is the Protestant religion that our forefathers put in the 32d article, and stands opposed to the Catholic religiou in all coun tries and in all ages. Now then you can have, i think, a clear view that the Protestant religion is not the Catholic religion; and if the Protestant religion is not the Catholic religion, then the Protestant religion cannot be called, with any proof but the scriptures, the chris tian religion. All history is against the Protestant religion for 150O years for the date of the establishment of the christian religion is 323, which is the Catholic religion; but the date of the Proiesianl re ligion is 1529 how then the same, or how will you join them together to make them both mean the christian religion, when one existed 1500 years before the other? I told you it could not be done. And thus leaving out the decision by the New Teslamtni, every Protestant in this State is shut out of oflice, for their conscience will compel them, w hen put to the test, to deny that the Catholic religion is the christian religion, in its present form. So I shall end the argu ment, being tired of writing, although I have much more to say but not now, except to offer some further proofs and light on the sup ject. What is the Christian religion, in the 32d article? What d ies the convention mean by it? Do they mean all sects m the Stale? I nave shown that if they do, they cannot prove it, nor have iheyso defined it, and this is the defect. And I have shewn ihut. the Prot estant religion i not the Christian rtiigh ii. but by the New Testa ment; if tried by that it may be, otherwise it cannot be. D eft the Convention mean to establish Catholicism? No, Sir, I have too high an opinion of those gentlemen to impute any such an intention to them yet if the people ratily their proposed Constitution, 1 have shown they will do so, so far as that clause in the Constitution can do it. , Now just for a miniature lake the following as proof: the Metho dic comes forward and says, mine is the christian religion aod a rc! of Protestants too, whose hoes many Catholics are not worthy to clean, for their preachers are not gowns men from colleges, and op pesors and blood suckers as the Catholic bishop- have been; but plain honest men, brought up and called of God liom the plow tail, at the pittance ol 60, and scarce that, have spread abroad and soun ded experimental salvation in eveiy hole and corner of the Slate, arid achieved wonders in doing good to the soul of men. But, savs the Catholic, yours is not the Christian religion ai d why? becau-e we can trace back your origin to the hole from whence you were dig ged, in England, by Morgan and John Wesley; and you had your rise in 1729, and therefore you cannot be the chiiiian ihuich nor the Christian religion and why? beAuse the Christian church and the Christian Veligion, it is acknowledged by all historians, was established in 323, and we, the Catholics,are of that reliffion, which existed 1400 years before your Methodist name or icbgion was beard of. Then, Methodists, yours cannot be the Christian religion, so hang up your fiddle and cry, every man to the ba'lut box, 0 Israel! Then comes forward the Presbyterian, and says, ours the Chris tian religion. No, says the Catholic do you not know thai John Knox was a disciple of Calvin, and brought Preshytetiauism horn Geneva to Scotland, and that if became the cslablihed religion of Scotland in 1690 and you mv all of that breed in North Carolina, you have no right to claim to be ihe christian religion; for ihe Chris tian religion, which is Catholicism, existed 1300 jeais before ycur

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