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/The Daily Tar Heel/Friday, February 5, 1993
Beyond rhetoric, candidates are people too
Adrian Patillo
By James Lewis
Staff Writer
Adrian Patillo learned a lot from his
childhood.
"I think it was a very lonely experi
ence," said Patillo, an only child from a
poor family.
"I would like to have a had a brother
or a sister because I spent a lot of my
time alone in the backyard.
“You can play a pick-up game with
yourself."
Patillo said his childhood helped him
become an independent person. He said
that during the lonely hours, he spent a
lot of time thinking, and it helped him to
become the person he is today.
"There was one tree in my
grandmother's backyard, and I would
sit under it and think a great deal of the
time," he said.
He said he never expected, because
of the cost of tuition, to be able to go to
a university. Patillo said that since he
was here, he intended to make the most
of the situation.
"When I was younger, I never thought
that I could attend a university, much
less the flagship University of (the UNC
system),” he said.
That was one of the motivations for
running for student body president,
Patillo said. "I wanted to leave it in
better shape than 1 found it."
Patillo said his background has taught
him the value of a college education and
that he would take advantage of the
opportunity
"A few years ago, I would have
given anything to be rich, but now I
wouldn't trade the experience for any
thing," he said.
While at UNC, Patillo, a native of
Kevin Ginsberg
By Ivan Arrington
Staff Writer
It’s blue, wrinkled and has KBG in
scribed in cursive thread letters.
No, it’s not a bath towel from Woollen
gym; it’s the ever-present hat that sits
upon student body president candidate
Kevin “Cooter” Ginsberg’s unruly
brown mop.
“I bought this hat when I was eight,
when I went to Disneyland. My favorite
Disney character is Donald Duck, and I
didn’t get to see him there, so my par
ents bought me the hat.
“I probably haven’t gone two days
without wearing it. I only took it off in
class in high school.”
Still, Ginsberg, ajunior from Colum
bia, S.C., has had to make excuses for
the hat and his nickname, which some
students have labeled as a ploy for the
student body president job.
“They think the nickname and the hat
are not the real Cooter,” he said.
As for the nickname, Ginsberg blames
it on his Southern accent and takes
offense at its misuse.
“My name has been mudslung since
we started this campaign,” he said.
"When I came to UNC, my friends
thought I sounded the most Southern,
so they nicknamed me after Ben Jones
(the mechanic of television’s “Dukes of
Hazzard”), who is a drama major from
UNC and currently is a U.S. congress
man from Georgia.
“Apparently in South Carolina and
North Carolina, it has other connota
tions. The only reason for using it is that
more people know me as Cooter.”
Don’t tell Ginsberg that prior gov
ernmental experience is necessary for
the office of student body president.
Jim Copland-
By Ivan Arrington
Staff Writer
Listening to Jim Copland brings only
one word to mind experience.
The junior from Burlington has
worked as part of former Student Body
President Matt Heyd’s cabinet as coor
dinator of Budget Crisis Lobbying. He
lobbied with the student government
branch that lead the 1991 fight against
budget cuts at UNC and throughout the
UNC system.
Copland is the chairman of the advi
sory board to the dean of the College of
Arts and Sciences.
He also is a member of the Long
Range Planning Committee forthe Cen
ter for Undergraduate Excellence and
the Carolina Union Board of Directors.
The only elected office Copland ever
has held was Student Congress repre
sentative during the 1991-92 school
year.
Still, Copland doesn’t characterize
himself as a political animal.
“I don’t really see myself as an in
sider,” he said.
“I haven’t been in Student Congress
this last year, and I haven’t been in
(current Student Body President John)
Moody’s cabinet.
“While I think I have more knowl
edge, I don’t consider myself an in
sider.”
Instead, Copland sees himself as an
outsider who has the experience to mold
the executive branch into a diverse and
outspoken tool.
“1 have the energy, and I’d like the
job,” he said.
“I know most of the other candidates,
and I feel I’m the only one who could
step in on the first day and do the job.”
STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT CANDIDATE PROFILES
Chapel Hill, has
been involved in
the fight for a free
standing black cul
tural center.
At a time when
student leaders of
the coalition for a
free-standing
BCC refused to
join the
chancellor's work
ing group, Patillo
Adrian Patillo
suddenly found himself a committee
member with dignitaries like Harvey
Gantt and Delores Jordan.
"I have no regrets and make no apolo
gies," he said of his involvement in the
movement. "I'd probably do it again."
Patillo said that the experience he'd
gained on the working group had been
invaluable and that he had learned a
great deal about the University through
the meetings.
"Before I started on the working group
I knew little of where the administration
stood or how the system worked," he
said.
"I have learned who controls what
and who has the last say and what chan
nels you must go through."
Patillo said the work had had mixed
results. "We've dispelled some miscon
ceptions and strengthened others," he
said.
Patillo likes to enjoy college life too.
"The most interesting thing about me
is that there are two sides to me," he
said. "I like to go out and have a good
time. But there's also the part of me
that's very serious and worries about the
future of this country.”
Patillo said sometimes he felt as if he
were two different people. "(Part)
He prides him
self on his outsider
status and says his
lack of contact
with student body
government has
left him untainted
in this election sea
son.
“My first week
of my freshman
year, I tried to get
involved with stu-
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Kevin Ginsberg
dent government,” he said. ~, r
“I was put on a committee whose
' only responsibility was to recruit others
for student government.
“We never got anything done; it had
poor leadership, and we had no plan;
every meeting was the same. I just got
dissatisfied and quit.”
Ginsberg said he wanted to take the
dissatisfaction he felt and to right the
wrongs he saw in student government,
making it more accessible to University
enrollees and opening the governmen
tal process to all students on campus.
“Ninety-eight percent of the students
don’t know about student government,
and that is unfortunate,” he said.
“A large premise of my campaign is
to improve communication.”
Ginsberg says he will use the experi
ence he has gained from his involve
ment with other on- and off-campus
groups like the Tau Epsilon Phi frater
nity, the little league Rainbow Soccer
program and his work as an orientation
leader for C-TOPS, the freshman sum
mer orientation program, to lead the;
University.
“I think these things have prepared
me for the job,” he said.
“I don’t think you have to be a stu-
Coplandsaidhe
came into his cam
paign sporting a
sense of pride and
hope.
He sees the up
coming school
year as a chance to
change the Uni
versity and leave a
permanent mark
on campus..
“It’s an impor-
|im Copland
tant year, with the Bicentennial, safety
problems, the 1995-97 budget appro
priations, tuition, the (S3OO million
UNC-system capital imrpovements)
bond, the BCC and the tenure policy,”
he said.
“I think I could really make a differ
ence.”
He says he will target these areas
with “real” solutions.
“It’s important to have goals,”
Copland said.“l’m prepared for the fu
ture.”
“I’m going to properly address the
big issues.”
As the former editor-in-chief and the
current publisher of the Carolina Critic.a
conservative campus newsmagazine
Copland has been an outspoken com
mentator on student government.
Copland says his work won’t stop
with the presidential position he
wants to reinstill the spirit of coopera
tion between all three student govern
ment branches, in the process the
government’s image.
“Student government shouldn’t be a
political power play,” he said.
“I want to make student government
active to make it help students ... make
it work for the student body.”
partyer and (part) public servant," he
said. "I'm a black Ted Kennedy."
Patillo said he hoped he could at least
increase the voting numbers in the elec
tion and get students involved in cam
pus issues.
"I’m qualified for this job, I can do
the job," he said.
"I can be one of the best student body
presidents we’ve ever had if I'm elected,
but the student body has to get together
on the issues."
He said the group Students for Dr.
Paul Ferguson's fight for the embattled
assistant speech communication pro
fessor was the kind of student involve
ment the University needed.
Students should be demonstrators,
and they should become active and voice
their opinion when they want to, he
said.
"Students have a long history of (dem
onstrating), and I think they should be
allowed to do that, " he said.
Although Patillo is a radio, television
and motion pictures major, he said he
hadn't yet decided what he would do
after graduation.
Patillo said he had written a screen
play, but had not tried to sell the rights
to it.
He also is looking into advertising
sales.
"But, I would really like to write
screenplays," he said.
Patillo said that he was also a public
policy planning minor and would enjoy
ajob involving city planning. "Notmany
people enjoy city zoning and stuff like
that, but I do," he said.
Patillo said he wouldn't rule anything
out.
"I am jut going to keep all of my
options open,” he said.
dent body guru to run for SBP.”
Ginsberg says he is particularly in
terested in attracting those students
whose interests might never have in
cluded student government. He says
that as student body president, he will
provide all student volunteers with a
job.
“I will actively recruit freshmen and
more undergraduates,” he said.
“Anyone who wants a position, I
have one.”
Ginsberg said that lately he had come
under fire for his image, with some
students accusing him of purposely
building a base of supporters for his run
for the office of student body president.
Ginsberg drew fire at the Black Stu
dent Movement forum earlier this week
for sending fliers to all University fresh
men through campus mail.
But Ginsberg says he hasn’t done
anything wrong.
“Some people have told me that they
think I was already thinking about the
job when I became an orientation leader
for C-TOPS,” he said. “That’s com
pletely untrue.”
He does acknowledge that his orien
tation work should help him, however.
“The (orientation leader) job was an
incredible position, and yes, I do expect
it will help me,” he said.
“A lot of freshmen know me.”
Ginsberg says he is not counting on
anyone voter group on Election Day but
hopes that hailing from a fraternity will
help him pick up some of the Greek
vote.
“Of the six candidates, four are
Greek,” he said.
“I’m in one of the smaller fraterni
ties, but I hope to gain a share of that
bloc.”
Asa leader, Copland said he saw
himself taking a backseat role, delegat
ing authority to his cabinet and listening
to campus organizations to understand
the University’s needs.
“My leadership style is not the dili
gent motivator style; it is the vision
ary,” he said.
“I’m a good listener. I’m a delibera
tive decision maker.”
Copland said that if elected student
body president, he would not distance
himself from his constituency.
“I would hope that anybody could
talk to me at any time,” Copland said.
“Tbe student body president stays a part
of the student body.”
Copland says he wants to reshape the
executive branch into a more student
friendly office, “to give power back to
the students.”
“The student body president has to
be a communicator, a voice of the Uni
versity,” he said.
“We need to make a voice for the
students more accessible.
“Sometimes you get lost in the Suite
C subculture. It ’ s important to take some
regular days and meet with the stu
dents.”
Copland said he viewed himself apart
from the other candidates in terms of
character and past governmental work.
He raised questions about experi
ence and said he thought the other can
didates would be less adept at making
decisions.
“Experience is very important; how
are you going to structure the executive
branch?” he said.
“On the character issues, I don’t take
the easy way out.
“I think I am a better rational deci
sion maker (than the other candidates).”
Jennifer Lloyd
By Gary Rosenzweig
Staff Writer
Student Congress Speaker Jennifer
Lloyd spent the last year reading her
name in newspaper headlines which
she learned can be both a good thing and
a bad thing.
Now she is running for student body
president, a title that, if she wins, surely
will bring her more headlines.
“You would think that I would want
to get out of student government,” said
Lloyd. “You would think that I’ve had
enough.”
Her decision to run for the office was
more of a decision not to stay out of the
race, she said.
“I can’t not do it,” Lloyd said. “I
don’t know any other way.”
Lloyd wasn’t always involved in cam
pus politics. When she first came to
UNC in the fall of 1990, she said she felt
left out.
“I wasn’t involved,” she said. “Ididn’t
know the system. I didn’t know where
to go to get solutions to problems.”
Lloyd grew up in Burlington where
she began playing the piano at the age of
three, going on to win several regional
competitions. She said she started be
coming involved in leadership roles at
school and in the community at a very
young age.
“As the youngest of six children ...
you have to be very outgoing and very
assertive,” she said.
“There were never any limits in my
life. There was never any time when my
parents said, ‘We think you are doing
enough.’ That made me miserable as a
child, often, but I am very thankful for
it now.”
In addition to being a cheerleader
David Cox
By James Lewis
Staff Writer
No one can say David Cox hasn’t
gotten the most out of his college expe
rience.
Cox, ajunior from Signal Mountain,
a suburb of Chattanooga, Tenn., said he
always wanted to attend UNC-CH. Since
enrolling, he has played on the varsity
baseball team, has helped start a cam
pus social fraternity and has taken an
active role in a campus service frater
nity.
Given his background, it’s no won
der Cox says he doesn’t worry about
complaints that he hasn’t been a mem
ber of Student Congress or that he
doesn’t have enough student govern
ment experience to be student body
president.
Cox said he had met lots of people in
the other activities he had been involved
in during his first three years at UNC.
His hometown college, the Univer
sity of Tennessee at Chattanooga, where
Cox’s father played football, is much
larger than UNC. Cox said the atmo
sphere at UNC was much closer, and he
estimated that he knew at least 3,000
people on campus.
Cox, one of three children, said his
younger sister also wanted to come to
the University. “She’s very interested
in Chapel Hill, and I hope that she can
come,” he said. “That would be really
neat for both of us to be here at the same
time.”
Cox said he valued the opportunities
he had had to meet new people at UNC.
“I’ve spread myself out to where I
can get a lot of different students’ opin
ions on things,” he said. “I don’t think
I’ve missed the University experience
Carl Clark-
By Daniel Aldrich
Staff Writer
Carl Clark spent every afternoon this
week sitting at his table in the Pit, shak
ing hands and greeting potential voters
and friends.
Clark is almost obsessive about
knowing people’s names if he can’t
identify a potential voter immediately,
he apologizes and sets to work learning,
and using, his or her name.
On occasion, the wind blew away
Clark’s pamphlets and “palm-cards”
held down by staplers and masking tape.
Clark didn’t get frustrated. Instead, he
simply walked after them, smiled,
picked them up and shoved his hands
deeper into his pockets.
Clark, ajunior from Fuquay-Varina
running for student body president, is
no stranger to suffering for votes. Clark
said he shook hands, asked for advice
and talked with the hundreds of stu
dents waiting in line at the Smith Center
for basketball tickets Saturday night.
He talked to squatters from 1 a.m. until
6 a.m. during that freezing night.
By the time he finished, his hands
and ears were frozen, Clark said. “As I
walked back to my dorm, the sun was
coming up,” he said, laughing. “I just
wanted to hibernate.”
Clark describes himself as humble
but forceful when necessary. “I take a
rather respectful approach to matters,
but when I see that things don’t work,
that’s when I get busy,” he said.
He say s he has no lack of plans for the
problems on campus witness his
widely circulated pamphlets —and he
adds that through his three years as a
Student Congress member, he has
learned what works and what doesn’t.
and yearbook edi
tor in high school,
Lloyd took part in
summer programs
working with the
disadvantaged. A
trip to the Texas-
Mexicoborderbe
fore her sopho
more year in high
school changed
her life, she said.
“So many
Jennifer Lloyd
people just look at Chapel Hill or are
content to live in Burlington, and they
don’t realize the problems and needs of
the global community,” she said.
Lloyd said she was bothered by the
injustice she saw on that trip, and she
has since found that helping to right
injustices gives her energy to keep fight
ing.
First elected to Student Congress at
the end of her freshman year, Lloyd said
she saw many examples of injustice in
student government that drove her to
become more involved.
“The same kind of feeling I got in
Mexico about injustice I got in Student
Congress moral outrage at the kinds
of things I saw happening.”
Lloyd, a finalist in Glamour
Magazine’s competition for the top 10
college women in the country, has had
her share of showdowns with other con
gress members.
She said she was angered in 1991 by
the members who were abusing then
power to control the upcoming election
by redrawing voting districts and ma
nipulating the selection of an elections
chairman.
She walked out of a congress meet
ing in protest. A few months later, she
like I might have I
missed it if I had
been involved in
student govern
ment and limited
myself to just one
area.”
He said he
thought the most
important thing for
anyone at college
was “to learn how
to think and to
have a good time.”
David Cox
During his first year at UNC, Cox
was a catcher for the varsity baseball
team. “As an athlete, it was a way to get
involved,” he said.
Cox said he thought playing catcher
—the “quarterback” of a baseball team
gave him experience and leadership
skills.
Cox also is excited about his frater
nity, the new franchise of Phi Kappa
Tau in Chapel Hill. “It’s the opportu
nity to build something from scratch,
and that’s very important to me,” he
said.
Cox said that when the fraternity
pledged 42 members, he would be able
to sign the charter as a founding father
of the fraternity. He said he expected
the charter to be filled by next semester.
“There’s a lot going, and it’s easy to
move into lots of leadership roles and to
make a big impact,” he said.
He said his distance from Student
Congress actually might help his cam
paign.
“If you take a look at the general
attitude of students on this campus to
ward student government, I would say
(being an outsider is) an advantage,”
Cox said.
Clark has said
he wants his plat
form to be an “um
brella to unify all
students.”
Despite Clark’s
desire to be a uni
fy ing student body
president, he has
encountered oppo
sition from student
groups on campus.
Clark recently
Carl Clark
was criticized by Lambda, the newslet
ter of Bisexuals, Gay Men, Lesbians
and Allies for Diversity, for being
“homophobic” and “conservative.” He
said that those names were just labels
and that labels were nonproductive.
“Idon’tlookatsomeoneatsay, ‘Gee,
he’s a homosexual,’ or ‘Gee, she has
blue eyes,”’ he said. “When you start
applying labels, you can’t get anything
accomplished.
“I may believe that homosexuality is
not a belief that I support. I understand
that people have emotions and feelings,
and I am not here to tell them they are
wrong. I just come from a background
where I have been taught (differently).
“I consider myself a moderate. I see
both sides of the coin.”
Clark said he was open to other opin
ions. “I surround myself with people
who have differing opinions than my
self,” Clark said. “That is evidenced by
my campaign staff, which transcends
the barriers we have here on campus.”
Clark said his staff included blacks,
whites, Greeks and non-Greeks and on
and off-campus residents. “I have some
arch-liberals and some arch-conserva
tives,” he said.
Clark has campaign staff members
was elected speaker.
She said she was surprised she won
because she thought of herself as an
outsider and because the speaker elec
tion was pretty much dominated by
factions in student government.
“I didn’t think I could ever win be
cause I was r.ot in the system,” Lloyd
said. “Congress is factionalized, and
there are not many bridges between the
white, male Young Republicans and
everybody else.”
Last semester, Lloyd faced impeach
ment charges from several members of
congress charges that were later dis
missed.
“I needed all of these experiences to
harden me to politics,” she said.
Lloyd said she hated being consid
ered a student government insider just
because she had held an office for the
past two years.
“I am an insider to the University
system to making the University’s
rules and regulations and opportunities
and resource systems work for student
groups,” Lloyd said. “But I am com
pletely an outsider in the politics of
student government.”
Classifying herself as a workaholic
and a perfectionist, Lloyd said she only
needed about one to four hours of sleep
each night. Although she pledged Al
pha Delta Pi sorority in her freshman
year, she has been inactive since then
because congress takes up most of her
time.
Lloyd, who recently won the Miss
Alamance County pageant and will be
competing this summer for the title of
Miss North Carolina, said she hoped to
go to the John F. Kennedy School of
Government at Harvard University af
ter graduation next year.
Interaction with students is more
important than knowing how the sys
tem works, Cox said. “I’m pretty sure
that people are going to say that I’m not
qualified because I haven’t been in stu
dent government, and I don’t really
know all of the little systems and way
things work, but, in my opinion that’s
something that can be picked up pretty
quick,” he said.
The lack of a student voice in campus
affairs drove him to run for student
body president, he said. “I’m running
because I don’t feel that students have
been given a voice in campus politics,”
he said.
He said the student involvement level
during the fight for a free-standing black
cultural center represented the level of
activity he would like to see from stu
dents.
“Although it wasn’t necessarily stu
dent government activity, that was stu
dents being involved, and that’s the
kind of involvement I would like to
see,” he said.
Cox said his philosophy of life was to
take advantage of all the opportunities
presented to him. “Try to get the most of
every opportunity,” he said.
He said part of his platform, the idea
of giving students direct control over
some of their student fees, was just an
extension of this philosophy into his
campaign. “I want to give them the
option to take more opportunities,” he
said.
“Students don’t realize what kind of
control or leverage that student govern
ment has and especially the student
body president’s involvement with the
UNC Board of Governors and the chan
cellor as a spokesperson for the stu
dents.”
who support him despite differences in
their personal views. Vikki Mercer, a
self-proclaimed liberal and a sopho
more from Walstonburg, said she had
been introduced to Carl through one of
her friends and eventually became one
of his campaign workers.
“Carl has got some great ideas, and I
was impressed with his attention to de
tails on certain topics,” Mercer said.
“He has a lot other candidates don’t
have.”
Mercer added that she thought Clark
was very personal, directed toward stu
dents and honest.
Clark often goes home to Fuquay-
Varina on weekends to play music and
volunteer his time and services to hos
pitals and rest homes. “I play for morn
ing worship services often,” he said.
Clark said he had matured a lot and
gained compassion and humbleness
through his work at the rest home. “It is
my most rewarding experience I have
ever become involved in,” he said.
“People there who can’t talk, can’t
hear and can’t move become focused
and intent when I begin to strike up a
tune on the piano. I believe the experi
ence has benefited me more than it has
benefited them.”
Clark has played the organ, the violin
and the piano since he began his musi
cal career in the third grade.
Community service also is an impor
tant part of Clark’s life. “I am serving on
the Key Club International Board of
Directors and am here on a scholarship
from them,” he said.
Clark has kept himself busy during
his campaign. “I am very intense and
persistent,” he said. “I get the job done
and know how to get things accom
plished.”