Vol. m.--x?. il
(Original.
For tiie X. C. Christian Advocate.
NO&TH CAROLINA AND VIRGINIA.
The Controversy,
Things to le Remembered.
Bro. IIeflin- : Tiie readers of the Advo
ci.'e will bear you out in the assertion, that
he -.resent controversy in which you are
e i with Dr. Lee. is not one of your
sc Ais.g Since the establishment of our Ad
. Tot ue. it has avoided as far as possible, all
contiict with Methodist papers, Methodist
people, Methodist preachers, and Methodist
institutions. When either have been assail
eJ, it has stood forth valiantly- and promptly
in their defence. When difficulties have oc
curred between them, it has poured oil upon
the tr ub!e J waters, either by m lintaining a
rigid silence, or by a kind and fraternal sug
freti 'ii. designed to conciliate. Exceptions
to this have been f :roed on you.
The Methodist people and preachers as a
denomination esehewc -ntroversy deprecate
and oppose, when indulged in a bad sense,
a ontr vers:at spirir. ether against those
within or without our ecclesiastical fo ds.
But ofiViees will arise, and in a body as large
a? ours, if no differences were to occur, and
if under the eircumst races which have sur
rounded the North Carolina Conference for
sever-il yeirs, a few of our preachers were
nat to exhibit a belligerent spirit, it would
be a wonder.
Y-'ii have entered tiie arena, not t wage
a war of aggression not to measure lances
wiili a knight of tried ste-1, simply to bring
hi ill to your feet, in a test of skill, not to
Tent personal soleen anains' your antagonist,
or to gratify a sinister feeling ; but in defence
of the legitimate action of your Conference,
of which the Advocate is the organ, against
t'"e unprecedented assaults of a meddler "in
j'her men's matters." The sharp point of j
v..ur lance ha made the veteran kni-rht quail i
and quiver, not that it was dipped in -all j
Lut because " stubborn facts" were too sharp i
to be plaved with. I
Your readers will not therefore complain,
if you do wax valiant in fisht. should say, !
cautious as you are. some sharp, hard things, j
and should vou, if vour antagonist liiver on !
the field, press the battle until t heroin" i
down of the sun. Nor will thev, we iud.'-e"' '
object :o the intrusion of another, who does
not prop se to fiv to your assistance seeing '.
not prop ise to tij to your assistance, seeing ,
vou io not need it. but whose object is simply i
to pass over the field after vou, and reproduce !
the facts and figures, which justify the act of.
h justify the act uf,
n r !
the members of the North Carolina Confer-
enc
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lar
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tot: v. 1 1: 1 1 1 1-1 1 ut.. ' fs i - r
In doin'g so, the present writer may find ! fcrence. This is a fatal admission. At that j
it necessary to bring to view some facts. tlme three-fourths, if not four-fifths of its j
which your prudent forethought, led you to I Trustees, Lwed in the limits of the Wginia!
keen back, and which we would never have ; Conference. Three-fourths of the ministers j
repeated on paper, but for the extraordinary ! who were Trustees wers members of that
developements whi-h have recently been i Conference. As the old Trustees died or i
brought to light. The endorsement which i r-signed, were the yacsncies filled from those ;
the silence of the President of Randolph llV,nS ln the X-C- Conference? If we had j
Macon College has given to the sentiments I e,lual rights, ought it not to have been so? :
attributed to him by the published letter ofjUasU so ? Dld the Virginians, the mag-;
Rev. A. Or. Brown, leavps rr aTternarivft to nanunous irginiar.s, as they will have it,
wlio act with the majority, but to make I we tlnnk the record snows ttic contrary, ior
full disclosure to our people id' the partieu-! yoars t'.ust'oire of th:i.s was natter of com-.
aiiiravatins causes, which led to the act pht with us. He did not, it is true, go to ;
t'i. Ootiioreoce i the doors of the College and demand our i
That letter it is true, only sheds additional ' rights. But the lrust-es knew of it, and i
light upon the opitiions of th President as1 tIiat we ha,i K"d grounds f.r dissatisfaction,
t- 'his estimate of the characters ..f a majority i and we thougnt and felt, that as th?y hud- the
of the ministers of the North Carolina' Con. ! P"wfcr they ought to give us our rights. But
fere nee. We have long understood, that our ' they acted otherwise, whether from design !
Conference when weighed in the scales of ! or ni,t w0 wl!1 ,lot charge, and gave us just ;
that astute and logical metaphysial .n, were j ab".ut enough Trustees to hold us on as liege ;
a set of feathery blockheads and boobies, subjec's. ;
which puff might at any time blow to the ! Stl11 lt affirmed that we have eqnal rights ,
winds ; and we recollect that at the famous j with the V a. Conference. How was it when
Petersburg Conference he made the discove- i the present incumVent was elected President? j
rv, that we were something mors- than block- j Was he not placed there in opposition to the .
heads, knaves, but fools still. But to Mr. : known wishes of the North Carolina Confer- ;
Brown we are indebted fr his more mature enee? Tlie late heloved and lamented II. !
judgment, with his latest emendations and ' G- Leigh, the founder of the College, and j
corrections ; that this elaborate, able, and ! who more than any other man represented at I
world-renowned lecturer on Slavery, had at ; tnat tins the-views of the Conference in re- j
length discovered that that" peculiar institii- i ?"r(f t() tl,e Cidlege.it is well known was j
tion" had not "al .cal habitation or a name" j determined in his opposition to his election.
in our Conference. That while his scrutinU I ld he not sternly and peremptorily refuse, ;
zing search had foetid a few pious,, intelli-! aHhouah then at home within a few hundred ;
gent and honorable ministers anions us, the j rods of the College, to attend the meeting of j
large majority were even worse than "cer-ite Trustees, which elected him? Did he :
tain" of their"" unprincipled leaders," they j declare that he would not give his sane-;
were both bae and unprincipled, and boobies ' tion to his election, even by his presence ? Is ;
withal perhaps, too worthless to makeslaves ! it not said, that at that time Bro. Leigh de -1
of I What i record is that self-same letter I i
Wiiat. a s
pectacle for Godr for angels and
j
Now apirt from the influence which posi.
tion and place irivs a President of a College, i
lils oiiinioiis itr w. rth no mnrp tlom i.th'pr
i opinions art? w rth no more than other j
ion's: and if ihis were known to be the '
private opini o of the President, we would
not value it ,i jtr-at. But the pWtshs&i
opinion.- of the President of a College, so de I
famatoi-y of a body of christian niinisters, !
not inf-rior, V say the leat, in all the essen-!
tial characteristics- of christian gentlemen, to !
himsi-lf, is a pitch of impudence and effron- j
tery, not tu say wickedness, which deservss
pr-.mpt and sharp rebuke. We challenge the
strictest scrutiny into ths moral and christian
character of one an-l all of them of" certain
unprincipled laaders" and the rest, nor would
we wince nor move a muscle, ?n placing any
of them in opposite scales with the President
of Randolph Macon College. But wt'think
we know the President- He is unfortunate
chafed to madness-, and hence his bitter.
ness. If he be your friend, he-will never
falter in oSces of kindness to vcu. If vea l
have a thousand faults, and yoH are sure he
. i
is your friend, you need !t fear he will
never see them. He will die in the-last ditch
with you, if you are with him and for him,
body and soul. But if you provoke hin.1, if
he dislike you, if ho be your enemy, you
must fiend or break yield or perish. His
bowels have no compassion his heart no
forgiveness, no apology for you. Hence bis
strong will his strong prejudices, often im
pel him to say strong, hard things which may,
and perhaps ought to be, regarded with some
allowance.
But to our justification. T e North-Carolina
Conferet ce nt its last se?yin,. after a
most patient forbearance, under provocations
which norther body of men would have borne
so long, determined no longer to recommend
Randolph Macon College officially, to the
patronage of our people. That body did
simply, what it had a right to do, .-jtid what
every man who knew the views and feelings
t.f the body for many years, knew must be
done at sorae day, ancS would have been done
years before, but for the hope that the causes
of our complaint would have been removed.
But the Conference was anxious to doit in
the least offensive way in a way to prevent
injury to the College, axd if possible,-to avoid
addin fufel to a fire which its President had
kindled, which had already to the grief ef
the Church, caused mecli damage. It deter
mined simply to orait tlie name .f the Coilege
in its annual educational report. But the
ardent friends of the President and the Col
lage would have it otherwise In their hon
est, but as we believe, mistaken zeal, they
determined that then and there the College
and its President nust sink or swim live or
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die, with us. Many of t j friends f .ho
'liege deeply regretted tl... i-.u- ' 'i .jrced
on them. Xot that they were undec.ded or
doubtful as to the course they ought to pur
sue and meant to take, but because they
knew their views would be misconstrued and
their motives impugned. The deed was done.
The Conference refused to adopt the minority
report. Nor does a man of them regret the
vote he gaie. Were it to be done over, more
of th T;i wou!l be there to record their names
am nr. 'iy tea .
ThiitVis brought down upon the Con
ference 1fv2brrath of Dr. Lee. He took hold
of it with a vim, as one who had long been
anxious to goad those impracticable North
Carolinians, whom he had been trying to
whip into the traces, but who were now be
yond hope ; but if we do not mistake, he will
be more ready to let ustige, as one who picks
up a hot poker. He charges the Conference
with'repudiating Randolph Macon College,
and demands the why and the wherefore.
To this you hate replied promptly, fitly, ably.
ana given enough indigestible " reasons to i
try the "gizzard" (we quote a favorite esi
pression of the Dr's.) of half.a dozen such '
men as the Doctor's, powerful as it is. " iie j
pudiate ;" the Doctor knew that was the
wrong word. Carolinians never repudiate;!
they pay up or go to prison. But it was j
most offensive and most demagogical most j
fitting to his purpose, hence he used it. You j
speak truly, when you say, "we repudiate? !
never." It is impossible we owe itnotlw j
ing. No ; nor will we disown nor " disgrace" !
Randolph Macon, badly as we have beeu
treated by its Trustees and its President.
Never, while we remember and value the
memory of its venerated Founder. Never,
while Oiin, and Garland, and Duncan, remain
household words with us. Never, while its i
talented graduates fill so ably, honorable po- I
sitions in Church and State. No, nor while j
we recollect, we have invested in it $00,000. j
Others may " disgrace" it by recommending !
it under its present head, but we ncrer trill, j
Dr. Lee knew ar, least one of the reasons why j
the Conference did not recommend it. Eut j
h? m"Mt h:lv? tllem rom Jt,u- lou "ave i
Riven ttiem, Dmer to him as tiiey are, ana let
hl niake whut' h.e ca" of them- . I
"e truth of history may render it neces" i
8:lr.' tl)at we sh,n, he a little more particur !
,ar ln specifying the causes which led to the i
aot of tlie Conference. We charge ill-treat- i
ment as a Conference, both upon the Trustees :
aud tIie present President of the College, as :
weil as a W!U,t of qualification in the PresP j
dent' in justification of the act. It is admit, j
teJ Lr. Lee, that when the North Carolina I
"J L l - ljee' lu,i wlle'
Conference came into e
co.own-r of the College
r,Kht8 anJ Privileges ir
existence, it vv;is ;i j
?ge, possessing equal '.
r'K"ts ana privileges in tiie property ana ;
ni:in:iTpmiir. ot it. with the iro-inia I nm '
resin a:iti S:ve equal position to us? No,
clared that if he wre eh cted President, he
wsnld -jake "hewers of wood and drawers !
of water" of tht N. C. Conference? Wedonot !
vouch for it, but if it be true, subsequent!
events show that it was prophetie. Did any :
man, we ask. in the N. C. Conference at that !
n,an we ask. in the N. C. Conl
time really desire his eleetk
If s.
have not heard of it. A lew may have favor-;
d it as a dernier resort as the best they;
con-Id in the th?n critical condition of the J
finances of the College; but we have heard of;
110 man who preferred him. yhether II. (J. j
Leigh ever changed his opinion, we know;
riot. One thing is certain, the opinion of the :
Conference, though sometimes mod-ifi?-?- by
circaicetancej!, remained unchanged. Noth- ;
ing but the devotion of the Conference to the ;
College the deep anxiety of the older mem- ;
bers of the Conf-rence to foster and promote !
its prosperity, prevented an early exhibition I
of its opposition- to the course of the Trustees J
of the College. i
What was the effect -JSpon our preachers :
! Their ardor was cooled ; they still labored for j
t. still urged our people to give their money j
nd send their son? to :t, bat tney could not
go in for it heart and' soul as they had done ? j
hy ? lhey felt that the College was shorn j
of its strength that they could no longer j
hold up proudly to the public, its scholar- j
ship, its pure, gentle christian discipline,
its trong Faculty, as in the days of Olin and j
Garland. Still Duncan was there, in whom j
all confided, and they labored on and hoped
os. When Duncan left, another strong link I
was broken. i
Again, what can be said in efefsnee of the j
course of the Trustees at their last? meeting
toward the Conference? As far as the Con
ference could officially communicate their
views as to the ground of their dissatisfaction
to the Trustees, it was done. When the Pres
ident tendered his resignation it was not ac
cepted. Why?' Was it because the North
Carolina Conference was too insignificant or
"undisciplined" a body toba regarded?
Did not the $0C;090, paid by the N-orth Car
olina people and' preachers, if nothing else,
entit's their views to at least respectful
consideration? No,-aH, all, was too insig
ni?.want, too factioHS, too "unprincipled" an
affiiir;.for what? To be listened to by mag.
nanimous Virginians, or to risk the waiting
op o5 the ire of the President? Or,-was it
noS a- plain intimation, that we arc strong
er.oagh now to do without North Carolina
any longer? Well, have it so.
'What, can be said o? the liberality or jus
tice bestowed upon North Carolina, in dis
pensing the benefito and honors of the Col
lege. The College has in some instances,
imitated the example of others in conferring
honorary degrees upon those who were not
considered fully entitled to it. by tl e prac
tice of the school ; being, deficient in schol
astic learning.
COMMITTEE OF MINISTERS
We are not advocates for the departure.
But it had been done, and some of us tho't
that a Leigh, a Compton, a Doub, and others
were as much entitled as those who had re
ceived theui. -Little as we knew they desired
such honor, yet if ability in expounding the
Scriptures, if profound Bible learning and
research, if sound, able, eloquent preaching,
gave claims to any men iu the church to
such an honor, their claims were preeminent;
yet other portions of the Church filled the
eyes of the donors, and North Carolina could
not be se.--n. Tardy indeed, it came to the
lamented Leigh, but at a time and under cir
cumstances, when his friends considered it
more an insult than an honor. Few of the
beneficiaries have been from North Carolina
We were often appealed to for money and
students, but seldom tor oenebcianes. Per
haps our own benificiary committee may be
somewhat chargeable with the few sent.
Why did thev not send more? Some that
were sent remained but a short time. Why ?
Was it because Carolina boys, could not and
would not bear the jibes of their more haughty
neighbors? Was it that they were ni-idt to
feel they were beneficiaries, and were unwill
ingto lake charity at such . i price ? Thus our
money went, but where are the benefits ?
By the way, Mr. Editor we ask, because
editors are supposed to know every thinj
can you tell us how much Virginia had con
tributed to Randolph Macon College, prior
to the present effort to endow it r Dr. L.ee
savs, that North Carolina had contributed
$60,000. and if we recollect rightly, the Pres
ident of the College stated at our last Ral
eigh Conference.that North Carolina had paid
two-thirds of the whole amount. Well, that
would mike .?90,000 from all sources. Is that
correct, Mr. Editor? Well, go to the black
board an-l add the items. From North Caro
lina SG0.000 ; from South Carolina and Geor
gia, say, 15 to $20,000, more or less. What
does that leave to Virginia, the mother of
States? Why, $10 to $15,000! There is some
mistake in the figures, depend on it. We
have always beliaved that more money had
been raised for building and endowing that
College, than $00,000; we doubt if $100,000
wouid cover the sum. Where is it ? We make
no charge of unfair dealing, of "repudiation,"
or the like. We believe that every dollar
collected has been reported and applied to
the purposes of the College. But we do say
b:"?t of such a system of financiering any
'"booby" in North Carolina Conference, if
Caere be one, would be ashamed.
You have said truly, that the temper.schol
arship and administration of the President,
were serious objections in the minds of the
Conference. Temper, ard a plenty of it,
perhaps in the estimation of those who have
learned quietly to submit to authority of
whatever kind, is an important quality in an
administrator. Our Conference is unfortunate
enough to believe, that a man who cannot
govern himself, ought not to govern others ;
and especially that one who exercises an iron
will, severely tempered, ought not and cannot
govern Carolina boys. But what did the Con
ference know of the temper of the President?
Had they forgotten the turmoils and commo
tions of the Virginia Conference, before and
after our separation from that body ? Wore
their ears closed to the ceaseless din of battle,
in which the President was a chief actor,
which agitated that Conference for years, to
the scandal of the church, to the humbling
mortification Of all truly holy, meek men in
and out of that Conference? It is impossible.
These things were not done in a corner. Nor
d-d it- cease as long as there was one left, who
vtw iB ready as the President, to break a
lance. Ours was a quiet, peaceable body
then, and those "certain unprincipled lead'
ers," were among us. Years passed on without
scarcely :i ripple to disturb us, and our quiet
might have been p-rpetual. But the Presi
dent must try his strength elsewhere he
must take us under his wing. must become
our clerical censor-general for who, pray, so
much as the President of Randolph Macon
Collese. is iustlv charoreable with initiating.
by the agency ot his special friends, keeping
up the unnatural and deeply deplored agita
tion, which has disturbed our otherwise quiet
prosperous Conference for the last several
years ?
His scholarship was another difficulty.
His friends assert, that it was ample, and in
timate that same tld Virginia scandal, that
we are too i:n-orant to judge. Dr. Lee, if we
renvemberrightly, does not blink to assert it.
Weli, we admit his native talent, his great
powers of mind, and his ab-lity as a debater.
Nor will we contend that the President of a
College should cross every t and dot (-very i
in his ordinary correspondence. Nor will we
higgle at an occvsioiTal blunder in orthogra
phy or syntax : and i'f it sait better, we will
allow a m iety of barbarism in pronunciation;
but frankly .3-e apologists ofthe President, was
be qualified, as a scholar, to fill the chair
which had been so ably and gracefully filled
by the Olins and the Garlands?
willins even to jiranr. that this
We are j
objection :
does not lie as fairly as at first. We concede
that he may have become an able lecturer on
Mental and Moral Science, but whether his
forensic efforts or his gladiatorial temper, fits
him as an instructor of youMi in those sci
ences, or whether the doctrines he teaches,
will pass muster, is another question. That
the objection of the Conference is well found
ed. we are bound to conclude.
His auministration, both internal and
external, of the affairs of the College, you
aPdrui truly, is another objection. In the
judgment of his admirers it hs b?:i svp?rhv
tive. Facts will shovf that it has been super
latively Veginian, and superlatively objec
tionable to North Carolina. Scarcely had he
made' his dehut, when he went to work with
his wonted zeal to resuscitate the sinking
finances of the College. To his praise be it
said, he revived the hopes of its friends in
this respect. His strong, sonorous voice,
lifted its clarion peals over Virginia to some
extent, and North Carolina, for money!
money! The agents and the preachers were
pressed into service, and the good Old North
Stateanswered nobly to the call. What Virgin
ia did, this deponent knoweth not. Why afie
was not pressed and urged to do more at that
time, we know not. Perhaps Virginia money
was needed1 somewhere else, and it may be,
North Carolina money was more esteemed
Again, his eagle-eye surveying in its length
ami breadth, that "strip of land between two
States," saw its educational destitution, and
deeply commisserating its condition, conceiv
ed the very charitable design of getting up
schools throughout North Carolina. His ad
dresses had a fine effect. Perhaps, this is
what Bro. Floyd means, when he speaks of
our great indebtedness to the President for
exciting among us an educational spirit.
Give him: his due, he shall have it at our
hands, if we are capable: We grant it, but
the brother has forgotten that the spirit was
up,-was in advance of the President's efforts,
and that some small share of credit is due
Carolina preachers,, who went bsfore- and
came after the President, and gave his efforts
efficiency. Some or 10 schools perhaps
were' set on foot ;: but, if we remember cor
rectly, as we understood' it) at the time, the
President demanded that the schools should
be bona'jidc preparatory to R. M. College
that fee as pie Iged- to- furnish the teach
ers, and that he with' one of his Professors
wa to pas round- annually, to examine the
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RiLLEUSR, TKCHSI&Y. MARCH 18,
students, and suili as were prepared should
be taken to the Cpltege. We never heard
whether they wtfr to go by rail, or buggy.or
on foot, or on Dj.Lee's donkeys; or at whose
expense; but w recollect that the ridicu
lousness of the "air, when it came to our
ears, was too for our gravity. In the
mean time we hei d of none of these extreme
efforts in Virginia. Perhaps her enlightened
sons di 1 not need tftf President's aid.
At all events, we niter heard of but one pre
paratory school proj;rto the College, except
the one ut the College, in the Virginia Con-fereni-e;
nod that oa; wis at Garysburg, in
old North Carolina! The scheme was too
transparent. North Carolinians would select
their owi: teachers aiid would sendtheirown
sons where they p;tsed. The plan failed,
but we mast give thc President his award for
trying to aiakeus' "hj-wersof wood and draw
ers of waiter." -
Of the internal iroiiaMment of the College
we know, and hate sjmglit to know, but little.
At one time the A "ets were quite successful
in North Carolina in tht-sale of scholarships.
Our people, hot est "-ds, supposed that the
guardiana of the Coi.. e, ac-ed in good faith
in these :;les. (iUy bovs were sent
to the College by tht '..osiers u these schol .
arships. Those who !iad no sons sometimes
sent the sons of their riends. But from what
we have learned, sch larships were not pop
ular with the President, and the holders of
them, and the stude ts sent on account of
them, do not give a viry favorable account of
their treatment; so likewise in some cases of
discipline, much migh be said of the want of
delicacy and dignityof the administration,
but we forbear.
Rumor, with her tiousand tongues, has
connected other mattrs with the administra
tion of the College, n't- comporting well with
what the discipline f a Methodist College
should he, but wo st te nothing which has
not come to us frnn reliable sources.
Enough has been sail to make our justifica
tion complete.
But finally, adiniting all that may be said
by those who oppost the act of the majority,
admit, that from tin beginning, the North
Carolina Conference nad been treat"-' justly,
hororably. as a co-oner of the College ad
mit that its President had from the begin
ning until iu'w, beer every way acceptable
to the Conference, admit that under his
auspices tbcCjlleir 'ad incensed vastly in
students, infulal-Ujj, in means and influ
ence, ano-we grant met ne nas aone mucn
for it in-4n!rea?DjMtj! means, and perhaps
its students : "yet,, lys evident tnat a decent
respect to the manifest wishes of many of
our people, .and a prudeot husbanding and
investr.iefff-'SSour sift ill pecuniary resources.
dema'tide-J .tnat the.onference should cease
to rpcoainiehd tL.e Co!!ge.
Ou people had for years manifested a de
termination to pixtroi'ize institutions within
the State; had to a gre.U extent ceased to
patronize Randolph Macon College : and we
undertake to say, had done this without the
advice and countenance of the much abused
majority. So far as we know, no preacher
has directly or of set purpose, advised a pa
rent to send his son to the University instead
of R tndolph Macon. It may have been done,
but we arc ignorant of it. But to the Uni
versity and to Normal they would go. There
were reasons sufficiently operative upon their
minds to induce them t) this course, inde-
pemit-iiliy of anj-i-.n .... nrhirb noi.v have
operated against Randolph Macon. Did not
a decent regard therefore to the wishes of our
people, demand that we should embrace the
earliest opportunity afforded us of securing
such an interest in a College within the
State as our limited means would enalde us
to do ; and if so, what els-i should we do. but
cease to hold ourselves in such a position to
Randolph Macon as would oblige us to lis
ten to the constant appeals for money from
that quarter, when our home institutions re
quired every dollar we could raise. ?
Aain, the abusers of the majority seem
not to have considered the real facts in the
case, as to the necessity ot husbanding our
resources. The facts hearing upon this point
have been alarmingly accumulative for years.
We had given Vilread.r $60,000 to Randolph
Macon ; but the President, true to his Vir
ginia instincts, seemed far from being con
tent. He, in common with his fellow-citizens,
appeared to long for more North Caro
lina money. Some years ago we were as
sured in his annual report to the Conference
that an additional $50,000 would place the
j College well on its feet, and were asked to
J assist in raising it. At Pittsboro he wanted
! $100,000 ; anJ at our late session nt Golds
j boro', if we do not mistake. $200,000 would
I place the College beyond contingency. At
such a rate of accumulation, one would
think the sooner we got rid of the $60,000,
th" better.
We have said, "true to his Virginia in
stincts." Whv. what cIsp have our neighbors
been disposed to do for North Carolina, but
to get our money? Commercial and oilier
j spirited men both in Virginia and South
I Carolina, years ago learned that we were an
honest, unsuspicious f-ort of poople. and had
j some money. Thty determined to have it.
I So while we were asleep, or lying on our
I oars, they projected the Dismal Swamp Ca
nal, the railroads, and improved their rivers,
thus tapping the Old North State at both
ends, in the middle, and all around. They
bled us freely before we waked up; and while
their towns prospered and flourished, ours
remained .sickly and dying. But tiipy acted
fairly with us. ThPV did not take our nionpy
to construct the instruments with which to
drain us, and then taunt us with being block
heads and unprincipled. They no doubt
thought we were blockheads, for they found
many willing to be thus bled, and some of
the same sort are still left, bo-t they didn't
tell us so.
Indeed, the President is not alone in his
instincts ; we see something of the same sort
foing on in the Murfree.bor' District.
These noble North Carolinians over there,
ridh in good works, have erected a splendid
Female College, and under the auspices of
its excellent President it is rapidly rising to
fame and usefulness. We rejoice at it. lt
is an honor to the Church and the State. It
lies in the Virginia Conference and is under
its patronage. That Conference is bound to
foster it, and we think Virginians might af
ford to d something clever to assist it. But
what do we learn from our good Bro. Row
zie, the Agent? Why, that the little town
of Murfreesf.oro' alone has already given an
additional $12,000 to that College but the
other day, and that the north-eastern counties
in N. Carolina and a portion of Virginia,
have raised in addition $16,000. Well done.
But why did he not tell us how much of it
Virginia had raised ? Have Virginians giv
en $5000 of it ? We shall be glad to hear
they have given $10,000. But that it not
all. The excellent Agent advertises the
people of those fasste North-eastern counties,
that his labors vhe most of the present year
will be bestowed apnn them. Well, we know
the A;:ent. We believe him to be one ofthe
best of men. lie will work for your souls as
well as your money. But does no "Macedo
nian cry" come to him from Virginia ? We
assure brethren, we intend no disrespect, no
fling at the Virginia Conference or any one
concerned in that Colloge, but it struck us as
a good illustration of the position we had ta
FERENCE, M. E. CHURCH, SOUTH RTjFUS T. IIEFLIN, Editor
818.
ken, and we have used it for that purpose
and no other.
But we must hasten on. Much of this will
be called a talk for Buncombe special pie id
ing, &c. Wdl, be it so. It is special ; but
is it true or false is it apt or irrelevant? If
this be special, we meet the issue aain, di
rectly. The act of theonference is justified
by the treatment recieved from the Trustee
and the President, and by his want of -uita-ble
qualifications in the judgment ofthe Con
ference for the positioi. But the Conference
is mistaken has been deceived has been
led unwittingly by " certain unprincipled
leaders'.or was too ignorant to form a judg
ment in the matter. Admit it all. Does that
alter the case? Are the majority to be bla
med and abused then? Poor, ignorant, de
luded souls ; they should be rather pitied
than blamed. But the President will have
it that the majority were base enough,-and
ignorant enough, to be led by "certain un
principled leaders," and were either 00 re
creant to truth and justice, or too bliciily in
different, to detect their wicked designs. We
wish not to misrepresent him. We have not
Mr. Brown's letter at hand, and write from
memory. These inferences we drew when
reading it. To sr.cli a charge, however, we
have no reply to make. It carries its refu
tation upon its face. Our people, before
whom we go in and out, will nail it to the
counter.
But what do Dr. Leo and others say ?
They denounce it as a wilfully dishonorable,
repudiating act. The Dr. admits the intelli
gence of the majority that the act was de
liherate, and designed a an exhibition of
their malice again 4 1 the President for his at
tempted exposure of one of our body to the
Church and the world, and to vent their
spleen against the Virginia Conference for
sustaining the reputation of the President at
Petersburg. Tliai;k Heaven 1 we are not
wicked enough to speak of such a charge, in
such terms as would dishonor the christian
name. But in the name of the majority,
four-fifths of them at least, we deny the
charge. We haz ird the assertion, that, nine
tenths ofthe majority, up to tlie close of th3
G ddsboro' Conference, had never indulged
personal malice against the President of Ran
dolph M icon College one hour, if at all,
that they were never personally hostile to
him, nor would any of the, enj-ire majority at
any time have wickedlyS'one l-l.an injus-.
tice or an injury-;-.--Officially cjQu'ere iin
had been long opposed tsiathey felt,
that as a Conference, thJjCtiause to at
tach blame t;i hivn as tbJ' ;wrljer of their
peace and quiet ; but as 6$k,r personaL ..in
dividual feelings, they, fefts.o malice If
they now indulge personal aiaiHSe. whicii we
doubt, it has been engendered "and produced
more by the pu'disbed l&terjof A.G. BrKwn,
than any other cause; . '
As to their spleea at the-'-course ,of the
Virginia Conferen'Oit Peters-burgjt is equal
ly without foundation. ThriS-fonrtiis ofthe
Conference, if not more, believed wheu they
heard that brethren were gone to Petersburg
with charges agiinst the President, that they
were gone on a useless errand, just us he
President had
t had gone to Pittsboro the yc.vr
The decision of the V. Conferee
what they expected, and nursed
n mori in !vecorn:inefi with the law.
before.
was just
have been more in accordance with the law,
on..! f.Mt. miirn 6 n r w f;i nturv if -w lifid hf.pn let
i , Th mon ii i,i;,,ri to fill ntnri. ftl I
experience, if jik ?o Into a family a pe--
sonal difficulty against one of its nn-ni'iers
with an angry and bitter personal quarrel
which had been growing worse and worse
l lr v cure, uuu ucut tuc numc ininn, um
and"young. to feelieve that he is wholly'riht
and the br.;th-r wholly wmi.j. Nor does
such a state of things a'rue a want of piety,
or a disposition to do justice. So in these
cases ; and the majority were not influenced
by malice or spleen, prompting to the act.
The recommendation ofthe College had becu
a deal-letter fir years to man" ot them, and
we jrfdge, to some of those who voted for the
minority report, many of whom no douht vo -
ted for that report, not because they believed
we had been treated right, but because of
their devotion to the College. If a dead let-
ter, whv then keep it upon the record ?
No Mr .Editor; no, brethren ,. 1 he smiple j
7 L ;: :i,::,l I,! !
not have harmed tlie College
None was in-
tended by three-fourths, nay, by any of the
majority, and none would have followed.
But ah ! we are talking men, and big men,
and must do something smart, and keep up
this endless, distressing, unnatural warfare
in our Conference, and hence the injury to
the College if any accrue. It was the deter
mination of the minority to have a vote on
their report, when they knew to a moral cer
tainty that it would be voted down, that has
done the mischief. And then, Dr. Lee, as if
he were our god-father, (bad children how
can we help it?) must write abnt it nnrl ,
abuse us, and stir the Church from top to !
bottom ; and then the President must pour j
out his wrath upon us, and forsooth, we must !
rally to the charge, and hence the exposures,
and the bwl feeling and the injury to the
College and the Church. Lord, save us!
We have stated what we believe to be truth.
If these things are not so, point out the rror
and we'll correct ! and if they are not so, you
may ever hereafter call us
NED.
P. S. Since writing the above, we have
spen Dr. Carter's statement as to the course
of the Trustees at their last meeting He
present their conduct in a more favorable
aspect, than we had viewed it from our posi- ,
tion and knowledge ofthe facts.
A Fighting Preacher.
When our revolutionary war first broke
out, and Congress called upon the several
States to furnish regular regiments for
the Continental line, Peter Muhlenburg,
a pastor of the Tenth Legion mounted his
pulpit one fine morning, told his congre
gation he was going to the wars, and
exhorted as many of them as could raise
the pluck to follow his example. His words
took like wild fire a regiment was soon
raised and Peter himself was appointed
Colonel. Never was there a better choice.
Peier fought even better than he prayed. His
regiment was every where, where hard knocks
were going on at Trenton, at Princeton, at
Brandywine, at Gerniantown, at Monmouth,
at Yorktown, and Peter was always at the
head of his regiment. So prominent was he
upon such occasions, that with some of his
admirers he obtained th name of Devil Pete,
while by the army generally he was known as
the" Fighting Parson." H s skill seems to
have been equal to his gallantry, for ia a
short time he became a General, and was one
among the most highly esteemed of Wash
ington's officers. He was a striking exauipla
ofthe fact, that a man makes none the worse
soldier for serving his Creator with fidelity.
Gen. Havelook seems to have been a man
of very much the same build of Gen. Muh
lenburg. He was one of the genuine, old
school, Cromwellian breed a real "fear-the-Lord-aud-keep-your-powder-dry''
generation-
Idrrtintis.
He preached to his men he prayed with 1
them and even baptized them. On one oc
casion he was court-martialed for this offence, j
An inquiry into the state of his regiment
proved s 1 satisfactory, that the Governor
General said he wished he would baptize the
whole army. Now, the exploits of this man
and his little force are absolutely marvelous.
He has shown all the qualities of a great of
ficer one worthy to take his place by the
side of Wellington and Marlborough, They
have shown all the qualities of the best and
bravest soldiers. They fought six battles in
six days, each time against odds of ten to
one, and were victorious every time. They
marched through a swarm of foes, fighting
at every step, in the burning climate of In
dia, at the rate uf fifteen or twenty miles a
day They entered the city they were sent
to relieve, and were immediately surrounded,
and shut in, by twenty times their number.
Nothing daunted, they held on for months,
fighting and victorious every day, and l ving
upon a few ounces of rice, without any of
the usual supplies of European soldiers. At
last they were relieved, and the old parson
had ther glory and satisfaction of having fu
nis indomitable bravery, perseVerar ce and
.skill, sf.ved the lives of hundreds of his coun
trymen! We cannot think of hcsc thit g
ofthe old man's simplicity, his modesty, and
his great exploits, without feeling a disposi
tion to throw up our hats, and shout loud and
long for the brave old " Baptist Preacher."
The exploits of HaveWk and his men. dis
sipate the idea long entertained in England,
and openly avowed by a former Ministry,
that the more profligate the army, the better j
the soldiers. It is our firm belief that lion- j
esty. morality, and above all, religion, are ,
essential to man in performance of earthly I
duty, even the duty of a soldier, and here-
after, if we ever hear a man dispute tl is
point, we shall point to fighting old Have
lock, and his glorious regiment of true blue
Baptists, in support of our opinion. Depend j
upon it, a soldier does not fight the worse for ,
commending his soul to his Maker if he fall.
Richmond Whig, i
Cheating the Btevfl. ?
Squire IT, living in the town of A , was'
a niau in eisy circuiustanc3s, with every-,
thing enough, iD d!ors and oat. In his
yard was a huge pile c-f tfood, sawed and .
split, and' sufficient in bulk to keep a do
zen families through the winter, with
eoouh more where that came from.
Across the street from Squire II. lived
Mrs. W., a poor widow woman iu straiten
ed circumstances, with four uiouthsHo ft ed,
and four little bodies to warm, beside her!
own.
Squire II. doted on his big wood pile,
and was in the habit of taking a peep at it
through the closed blinds of his wiudow
before retiring at night. One nijht lie j
saw a female hanging around the pile, and!
opentDg the door partially to get a better f
j view, saw ber stoop, pick up a large arm- i
f(1 and gt&ft off ghe haJ not pr(,CL.cJ,.J ,
f Wev,r whea she ptoppfid Jhort, ndi
' ' -
be overheard the following: "1 cannot j
steal, the eve of God is upon mo;" and
dowo went tho wood, and she walked ofT a
t few steps, and stopped again ; " I have not '
a st;ck 0f wooj ju tne house, fhe weather
;9 b;tler C()lij an(J children are-
; ( rpi 1 i
' quire has enough, and ;
wl11 never ,n,ss ll- &0 faying, she filled ;
; hr arms again with the coveted fuel. !
I Again she started, again she hesitated ;
" What ! steal ! steal ? I never did such !
j a thing, and God forbid that I should do'
Qi)W j. und j,)Wn thewood upon the j
i ., . TJ . , , f e
P'1? a-f n- , Jut t!uSQt of her Mif
! lering brood brought her once more to the
! pile, and she filled her arms the third time j
with wood. Oocc more she started, and j
j again she turned back ; " I will nut Html j
i 1 wjh trust ju (;j0j . aD(j jf n js j, w;i ;
we, jh topether Su myw she
Hm'W dowu the wuol upon the pile, and
upon tne pile,
tne squire saw her enter the dwelling and
close tiie door. He retired to bed, but
slumber was slow iu visiting bis eyelids.
He thought ot the poor widow and her suf
fering children, and perhaps when hesli.pt
he dreamed of them.
Early the next forenoon Widow W. was
surprised to see the squire's four-ox te;im
loaded with wood, haul up in front of her
dwelling, and the squire com in en ce pitch
ing it off.
"What is this, Squire 11.?" asked the
astonished aud half-frightened woman ; "I
didn't order that wood, and God knows I
cau't pay for it."
" It's yours, and all paid for, ma'am,"
sung out the squire tugging at a big log ;
"you cheated the devil last night !"
1 he poor woman insisted that there must
be some mistake about it.
" I tell you it s yours, for cheating the
devil last night," said the squire, " and
there comes a man to saw it up, split it,
and pack it away in your wood-house."
The widow began to "smell a rat," and
stammering her thanks to the squire, rc
treated ,he htmse ghe wau,cJ for
no more wood that winter.
''Always Singing."
While talking with a neighbor, I heard
a sweet plaintive voice singing that beau
tiful hymn :
"Jesus, lover of my soul."
The child was up stairs ; I knew it was
a child's voice, from its silvery softness.
I listened for a while, and then said,
" That child has a sweet voice."
" Yes, she has," returned my friend.
" She is always singing !"
Always singing ! j
I passed that way again. Summer was
here in her fullness, strewing the earth
with flowers, and the sky with stars. The
same sweet voice was trilling on the air.
"O, had I wings like a dove, I would fly !" j
Thin timo the little sinser was in tbel
yard. I gazed upon the spiritual softness
of her features, the sweet eyes, like 'brown
birds flying to the light,' the fine express
ive lips, the durk, silken curls; I felt that
she would socn have her wish answered,
aud ' find a refuge in heaven 1'
Always singing I
Autumn cane; the wild swan was turn
ing toward the i-outh ; the leaves were
dropping from the trees, and spears of frost
glittered among the grass.
A strip of crape fluttered from the shut
ter of the house where my little singer
l.ved. By the great whit throne, by the
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river of eternal gladness, she was striking
her golden harp, and sinking in tho posh
ing fullness of imperishable glory. Homt
Magazine.
A Knock-Down Argument.
A certain man went to ft dcrvi.-h and
proposed three questions :
1'irst "Why do they say God is omni
present? I do not see lliui in any placo
show me where He is.
Second "Why is a man punished for
crimes, since whatever bo docs proceeds
from God ? Man has no free will, for be
cannot do anything contrary to the will of
God, and if he had power he wo'ild do ev
erything for his own good.
Third "How can God punish Satan in
hell-fire, since, he is formed of that cle
ment? and what impression cau fire make
on itself?"
The dervish took up a large clod of earth
and struck him on the bead wi'h it. Tie
man went to the cadi and said :
' I pivpo-td Oiree question tu mob a
dervish, who flung a clod of earth nt my
head, which made my head ache "
The cadi having sent for the dervish,
asked h;iH 1
"Why did yoa throw that c?ol of earth
at bis head, ruutead of answering his ques
tions V
The dervwh repMed :
"The clod of enh was an answer to hia
speech. He says h? a a pnin in his
head let him show it to me and I will
make God visible to him. And why dees
he exhibit a complainst against me? What
ever I did was the Hi t of (' !, and I iid
not strike without the will of tiod. What
power do i psess? And as ho is com
pounded cf the earth, how cun he suffer
from that clement 7"
The man wis conf 'un lcd, and the cadi
highly pleased with tho dervish's answer.
Verses ta he added to "There is a Happy
Land. "
KY W. J W.
O to that happy land
We'll hast away !
And join the chiistiuti band,
In end'ess day.
Then free from sin and pdn,
We in heaven with Christ blnll reign,
And in that blest domain,
Livo evermore.
Iligh in that happy land,
We'll sing tho song
Of Moses and tho Luub,
Loud, loud and long.
O. what a time 'twill be.
When oor Savior we shall see,
And through eternity,
Praise evcriacrc!
O for tXi anfe-t isto
Of that blest love,
Which' is si-cur'd for ts
In heav'n above !
O let us steadfast be I
Then joys of heav'n we'll sec,
And, Lord, we'll live with thec,
Blest evenuore.
Now Lord a blessing send.
Fill ev'ry heirt ;
On us thy love coicmatsl,
Ere we do part.
Lord to thee wo do flee,
Now our strength and p rtion be,
And let us live with thec.
UlesS e7enire !
IVayer HfeetiDg" in Stores.
We understand (says the X. V Tribune)
that in connection with the ( tores and
counting-roo'ns of several of our must prom
inent merchants, private prayer in cling
have recently been organized for the bene
fit of the clerks an I other employees. They
arc held in some retired place iu the build
ing, secure from public intrusion, and hive
been of great interest and proGt to those
who have attcu led. Some years afro, a
young man from New England came to
this city, and wa9 employed as a clerk in a
large dry goods house, down town. Short
I3' after his engagement, he cam to fats
employer with the statement that some of
of his clerks w re seriou-ly interested in
the subject of personal piety, and request
ed that a small upper room in tho building
in i iih t be sot apait and furnished, to be ued
exclusively as a place of ri-tiri-iuent to
which the various individuals connected
wiih the establishment might n-.-oil for re
ligious conversation, reading of the Scrip
tures, and prayer. This icquest was im
mediately grained', and the room was used
for years for this only purpose, resulting in
the conversion of a largo number of per
sons, wbo; during- that time, came in and
went ait of the employ of tl o ostiblish
ru( nt. The similar facts to bich we bavs
just referred are' b indication that the
present prevalent revival is taking an unu
sually strong hold' upon the mercantile
community.
3Iyerious Mnrringt. There was married
at Durham, C. E., on the 20th ultiinora old
lady and gentleman, iuvolving the following
interesting connections. We understand
them perfectly, and hope the reader will al
so :
"The old gpntlcman is mnricd to his
daughter's husband's mother-in-law, and his
daughter's husband's wife's mother. And
yet she is not his daughter's mother ; but
she is his grand-children's grand i;other,and
his wife's grand children are his daughter'
step children. Consequently the old lady is
united into the bonds of holy matrimony and
conjugal affection to hsr daughter's brother-in-law's
f ith er-in law, and her great grand
children's grand-mother's step-father ; so that
her son-in-law may say tu his children, your
grand mothsr is married to my father-in-law,
and yet he-is not your grand-father ; but he
is your grand-mother's son-in-law's wife's
father. This gentleman umrripd his son-in-law's
father-in-law's wife, and lie is bound to
support and protect her for life. His wife i
his son-in-law's children's grand mother, and
his son-in Vaw's sister in-law' j;rand cIiiU
drons' grMt-graod-motusr."
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