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Glenn Holder .................... .Editor
Will Yabborovgu.M gr.-Editor
Marion Alexander....-!? w$. Mgr.
Hal V. WoTH...Cirndation Mgr.
. ASSOCIATE EDITORS
John Mebane Harry Gall and
ASSISTANT EDITORS
Robert Hodges J. D. McNairy
Joe Jones - B. C. Moore
. . J. C. Williams . " '
CITY EDITORS
E. F. Yarborough ...!,; K. C. Ramsay
Elbert Denning J. E. Dungan
". Sherman Shore
SPORTS EDITOR
Henry L. Anderson
ASSISTANT SPORTS EDITORS
Browning Roach J. G. Hamilton, Jr.
REPORTERS ;
Holmes Davis
Louis Brooks
Kemp Yarborough
Clyde Deitz
George Sheram
Frank Manheim
JB. H. Whitton
J. M. Little
Charles Rose
Mary Price
J.. P. Tyson
Nathan Volkman
E.,C. Daniel
W.' A Shulenberger
G. E. French
William Roberts .
Bill Arthur
Hugh, Wilson
Harold Cone
Jack Bessen
Everard Shemwell
Ted Newland
W. W. Taylor
Vass Shepherd
B. H. Barnes .
M. M. Dunlap
Howard M. Lee
George Barber
Craig Wall :
Jack Riley
John Patric
J. J. Dratler
Henry Wood
Charles Forbes
.. . , Jim Moye
BUSINESS STAFF
Ashley Seawell ' , Tom Badger
John Jemison Harry Latta
Bill Speight Donald Seawell
COLLECTION MANAGERS
J. C. Harris T. R. Karriker
B. C. Prince, Jr. Stuart Carr
Friday, March 7, 1930
PURLOINED PARAGRAPHS
. "A sculptor says that, without fear
ing the comparison, many of our Lon
don statues could be placed among
the most famous "ones in Italy. The
trouble is . that they aren't. The
Humorist (London).
The New York World mentions the
firm of Bee and Biank, "publicity
advisors to Colonel Lindbergh." We
suppose its connection with this
famous client must bring the firm a
tidy bit of publicity. Detroit News.
Mrs. Carrie Chapman Catt says:
"World peace is a hundred years
away.". And when that century is up
no doubt there will be waiting plenty
of new issues that will ... have to be
fought out.-New Orleans Times
Picayune. According to Ursula Parrott in the
Mentor, women are not having as
much fun with "this freedom" as they
expected to have. The most obvious
growth from the seed of "Equal
Everything for Women" is a large
and increasing crop of left over ladies.
Atchison Globe.
Tar Heel Topics
The, epitome of incongruity;
The : South Carolina legislature
is considering a bill to outlaw
the "stretch-out" system.
Anyway, the London naval
conference has not been entirely
in vain it has given a few
dozen delegates a nice vacation
abroad.
Senator Smoot must have
tasted a sweet victory yesterday
when the Senate passed his bill
providing a tariff rate on Cuban
raw sugar. '
What with a "galaxy of stars"
participating, the first Southern
Conference indoor track meet in
the Tin Can tomorrow night
should be quite a brilliant affair.
Washington was fifth in the
number of major crimes com
mitted in American cities dur
ing January, according to sta
tistics of the International Asso
ciation of Police Chiefs. Evi
dently they- didn't count those
committed by Congress.
An Opportunity for '
Athletic Eminence V
Tomorrow evening a unique
event in the history of southern
conference athletic competition
will be staged in the Tin Can.
Track stars of the first magni
tude, representing practically
every major college and univer
sity in the south, will compete
in the first conference indoor
track meet. - : '
There , is a strong probability
that the meet will be v made an
annual affair if it is successful,
bringing to the Univesity an
event comparable in importance
with the conference basketball
tournament in Atlanta. Con
siderable credit is due Bob Fet
zer, Dale Ranson and their as
sistants for arranging the meet.
Although the Tin Can is hard
ly an example of ; aesthetically
pleasing architecture, it affords
"1 excellent facilities for the affair.
In fact, it has been converted
into a miniature Madison Square
Garden through the expenditure
of a tremendous amount of . hard
work. It even excels the fam
ous New York sports center, so
far as actual facilities for stag
ing the events on the program
is concerned.
. The idea of an indoor track
meet on a large scale is novel in
these parts, tsut tracK as an
intercollegiate sport is assuming
an increasinglyimportant role in
the " south, and "the University
will be assured of leadership" in
it if tomorrow's meet is success-
fuL' The program in itself, in
cluding as it does a long list of
events in which many of the
most notable figures of Ameri
can collegiate track competition
will participate, offers induce
ments to 1 attract every real
sports lover here and that in
cludes practically the entire stu
dent body. But the fact that
the University is confronted
with an opportunity to secure
permanently an annual cham
pionship tournament places at
tendance upon the meet in the
duty category. . '- ' A
Further Observations of
Debating at Carolina;
There can be no doubt that
the system of debate which is
employed by -this and other
American universities is an im
perfect one. American colle
giate debaters usually lay too
much stress on memorized
speeches and too little on the na
tive platform, endeavoring td
couch their thoughts in langu
age that betrays no. hesitancy.
Although these criticisms are
valid, they must be considered in
connection with the background
which the average debater of
this, or other American univer
sities, has.
Those who have heard inter
collegiate debates in Chapel Hill
in recent years have noticed that
the participants laid great stress
online phrases, subtle jest, and
a great wealth of extraneous
matter that was pleasing to the
ear, but which failed to throw
much light on the question. 1 The
speeches of the debaters have
in large .measure been reminis
cent of after dinner speeches,
and as such did not fulfill the
expectations of those who hoped
to hear the question argued
with care and precision. It is
not at all uncommon to hear
people say "I didn t want to
hear a lecture."
1 These are the common criti
cisms which people are offering
of the debates in which the Uni
versity has been represented in
recent years. An assistant edi
tor of this publication discussed
the problem at length in Wed-
nesday's issue, raising severally French and German for can- diction of tap, dancing into in
questions which the present! Mafc fnr ,wtnri' Tr0oa wniwintp loWinrr oni T
writer, who has been rather in-
iiumiy assoeiaieu wun ueDat-i5 respectively. The French ex
ing for the last three years, de- animation will be held in Mur
sires to comment upon. phey 314 at 10 o'clock and the
True it is that students al- German exam, comes off in
ways attend the Carolina-British Saunders 109 at 9 :30.
iHf lM!.v iAH HEEL'
debates in large numbers; but
why? Is it not because of curio
sity about the looks and voices
of the -Britishers, rather than
to hear the debate itself? It is
manifestly unfair to contend
that the English system of de-.
bating is better Ihan the Ameri
can plan merely because of the
fact that students attend the
Carolina-British debates, which
are, conducted on the English
scheme, but refuse , to attend de
bates between Carolina and
some other American university
which are conducted according
tothe American plan. When
American teams debate in Eng
land the audiences are much
larger than when two British
teams are competing. The
crowd is drawn by curiosity,
rather than by a desire to hear
a discussion of the particular
question under consideration.
But let us consider the two
plans aside from the problem of
the audience: Under the Ox
ford, or British, plan the subject
is not disclosed until the speak
ers ' are on the platform. The
debate must" be entirely extem
poraneous. There is a great
deal of spontaneity in; the
speeches, and the' debaters lay
greater stress on the, rebuttal.
On the other hand, the Ameri
can plan provides that the de
baters shall know both the query
and their respective sides a con
siderable time before the debate.
This enables' tne contestants to
prepare speeches and to memo
rize them beforehand. A weighty
objection to this procedure is
that the opposing teams often
argue in parallel directions. The
result is that the thrusts of the
opposing team are of ten not an
swered until the rebuttal.
But one must remember that
most of the British debaters who
come to this country are profes
sional or graduate students, and
that the average British college
student has a much wider ac
quaintance witk literature and
other phases of educational
data than the average American
college student. Just why this
is the case is obvious when one
examines the status of English
society and- scrutinizes the in
fluence of that institution upon
the character of the average
Englishman. The American
college debater cannot hope to
compete with graduate and pro
fessional debaters from England
in a debate where the query is
not announced until the audience
has assembled. Were this the
case, our debates would be less
interesting even than they are
now.
An intermediate system of de
whereby the query is announced
ahead of time, but the debaters
do not know which side thexwill
present until they have taken
their .places on the platform.
This seems to embody the solu
tion to the situation.
Regardless of the numerous
criticisms which are being di
rected at debating, the fact is
that students of the University
are taking more interest in that
activity. The debate squad sys-
tem whereby the prospective de-
baters study the question under
faculty supervision is proving a
great success. For every varsity
team there are about eleven well
prepared contestants. Debating
is gradually regaining its lost
territory and will continue to do
-so as long as the spoken word is
supreme.
J. C. W.
OrXl EXAMINATIONS FOR
DEGREES TO BE MARCH 29
The annual oral examinations
be given on March 29 and April
Headers' Opinions
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DR. BAGBY FOR PRESIDENT
Editor Daily Tar Heel:
The writer was much
inter-
ested this morning'
upon ob-
serving your
presidential bal-
lot" but was greatly disappoint
ed upon noting the absence of
the name of the man, who, to
my mind, is best qualified to
head the destinies df Carolina
for the next half-century.
I refer to Dr. English Bagby,
of the psychology department.
There are many reasons why
this man would make the ideal
president.
First, his appearance. There
is no one on the faculty, proba
bly, with the same appearance
of dignity and charm. His very
bulk inspires confidence in what
he says, and his boyish smile
shows a keen interest in every
thing that goes on around him
often an amused interest de
lightful in a college president.
Second, his youth. It is the
fashion nowadays to choose
youthful men to head colleges
and universities. A man as
young as Bagby would naturally
build for the future.
Third; his permanence. With
Bagby at the helm, the very
first official act of the new ad
ministration would be the build
ing of the finest golf course in
f Vi o pnimW nf fo-rnlinn And
if Carolina possessed the finest
golf course, there would, so long
as it was maintained so, never
be an incentive forthe president;
to leave. This would be highly
desirable.
Fourth, his goodfellowship.
No one ever accuses the psycho
logist of being "high-hat." In
fact, he is quite the opposite
he's just "one of the boys." One
could always walk into the pres
idential offices, perch on the of
ficial desk and bum a cigarette
from prexy.
Fifth, his great interest in
humanity. Bagby is delighted
when he can aid anyone in psy
chological difficulties, and of
course, to a psychologist, most
difficulties are psychological.
Sixth, economy; My candi
date has no expensive habits,
and does possess, in fact, com
fortable personal fortune. He
would undoubtedly work cheaper
than many imported presidents.
- Seventh, publicity. If Dr.
English Bagby were the presi
dent of the University of North
Carolina, and could be induced
to make his characteristic!
speeches frequently, he would!
make Carolina known from the
San Juan islands to the Flori
da keys, and 'from La Jolla- to
Fort Kent, as well as in distant
countries. ' For there never was
another man who could express
ideas so interestingly.
John Daniel. .
THE TROUBLE WITH
DEBATING -
Editor the Daily 'Tar Heel:
May I' be heard on the sub-
ject of debating?
J. D. McN., writing on "The
Present Plight of Debating at
Carolina" in Wednesday's Tar
Heel, suggested that all was not
well with "the venerable institu
tion. Even during a boycott on
the Carolina' Theatre, it seems,
students are unwilling to accept
the substituted entertainment
provided by the debating team.
I am not so sure that debates
are intended to be amusing. The
government assessed no tax on I
them during the war. I stand
unalterably ormosed to the intro
-ok askance -at piano accom-
Tniment to the, third affirma
e rebuttal. ?
The' ultimate fault with
'vl r-
Ilegiate debating is not that it
unentertaining but that it is
ineffective. The antiquated and
bombastic diction of the debater
fails because it is unsuited to
convincing argument. Who
savs "The ?entl(man who lust
left the floor,, should be in dan-
ger of the Council, and who says
"I have definitely and conclu-
sively proven" should be in dan
ger of heflfire, principally be
cause the one statement is trite
and wearisome and the other
false.
The annoying phraseology of
the debater and his devastating
puerile seriousness are not what
is wrong with debating; they are
the results of what is wrong
with debating;
An intercollegiate debater
should say something definite
about a pertinent and generally
interesting question. He need
not prove anything definitely
and conclusively in most in
stances he will be unable to do
so, strive as he will. The ques
tion for debate should be con
sidered as a sub j ect for discus
sion rather than as a problem to
be settled. It is to be seriously
doubted whether the twenty
year old debater will be able to
prove finally that modern sci
ence is, or is not, antagonistic to
theistic faith ; if he is intelligent
and has' spent some time in
reading about the subject ne
:?houId be able to express some
interesting views on it. The
question on which he is to ex
press such views should be se
lected with some idea of pro
priety. "Resolved : That disem
bodied spirits inhabit the crys
talline heaven" is inherently un
interesting to a modern audi
ence. "Resolved: That skiing
be made a ma jor sport at Caro
lina" is without local appeal.
The debater fails in the choice
and proper discussion of a suit
able subject with reference to
his ownability, the audience, and
the time limits within-which he
is confined principally because
of the system. Since debates
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are judged and ict0rie3 appre
ciated, at least by the coach, the
performance of the individual
debater is perverted from rea
sonable discussion to absurd his.
trionics. Instead of saying any
thing he asserts everything, Rop
ing that his violence and vol
ume will scare the judges into
rendering a favorable decision.
Some good is done by replacing
(as is done in many Universi
ties) the three voluntary and
non-professional judges with a
single paid critic-judge who 'will
prefer discussion to declama
tion. More is accomplished by
omitting the judge altogether.
It is a mistake to assume that
there can be no good debating
without an anticipated verdict,
just as it is erroneous .to as
sume that women cannot have
beautiful legs without Atlantic
City contests to determine which
has the most beautiful.
When the system of intercol
legiate debating is changed to
encourage intelligent discussion
instead of unintelligent ', asser
tion and nauseous bombast, edu
cated people ' will resume the
practice of attending debates.
ARNOLD WILLIAMS.
Daily Prayer
Grant, we beseech thee, 0
Lord, that whenever we go out of
doors, we may draw the chin in,
carry the crown of the head
highland fill the lungs to the
utmost; that we may drink in
sunshine, greet our friends with
a smile and put our souls into
every handclasp J Grant this, 0
Lord, for Christ Jesus sake.
Amen.
The above writings, put into
the form of prayers for the use
of the Y. P. S. L., were taken,
for the most part, from "The
Notebook of Elbert Hubbard"
published by Wm. B. Wise & Co.
New York.
GLASSES LOST
Lost: Several days ago, pair
of black horn-rimmed glasses.
Return to Campus Confection
ery and get reward.
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