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THE DAILY TAR HEEL
Sunday, November 6, 1966
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One for three won't win a bat
ting crown, but it's sufficient to
get a runner on base.
That's what Student Legisla
ture did Thursday night hit .333.
Of three resolutions concerning ju
dicial reform presented for the
body's approval, one made it
through committee and got the fin
al O.K. from the floor.
So there's a duck on the pond.
And the student body will have its
opportunity to make the crucial
score Tuesday by approving the
constitutional amendment to re
structure the student court sys
tem. Last Thursday we expressed
our hope that all three proposed :
amendments would get the legis- ,
lative go-ahead. Needless to say,- -we
are disappointed that two did :,
not.
However, if we must take them
one at a time, then certainly Stu- -dent
Legislature picked the right .
one with which to start.
Officially dubbed RJ-41-97 and
described as "A resolution propos
ing a constitutional amendment
concerning the court structure to
the student body for its ratifica
tion," the resolution's nomencla
ture is much more complicated
and confusing than its actual con
tent. What the proposed amendment
calls for, essentially, is this:
The establishment of a Con
stitutional Court with five justices
appointed by the president of the
student body and ratified by a two
thirdsvote of legislature. This
court would stand at the head of
the court system and would have
jurisdiction in controversies con
cerning points of constitutional
law. This court would also serve
as an appelMe:body for all other,
courts in cases where error in
constitutional law in the trying of
a case might be charged.
The ordering of SL to re-define
and clarify the responsibility
and jurisdiction of inferior courts
such as shall be established by
legislature to replace existing
courts. The present inferior courts
there are eight of them: Men's
Council, Women's Council, Law
School Court, Medical" School
Court, Dental School Court, MRC
Court, IFC Court, and Women's
House Councils would continue
to function as they do now until
replaced by another court.
So the crux of the pending
amendment is not within the
amendment itself, but in legisla
tion which would be passed subse
quent to the amendment's approv
al. We can only speculate as to
what form such legislation might
take, because even within the
ranks of the judicial leaders in Stu
dent Government, the issue is not
completely settled.
One thing we might expect
would be a coed Honor Court to
hear all infractions of the Honor
Code by either male or female
students. This, we feel, would be
a wise step, since honor and hon
esty are absolute qualities, not in
the least made more or less im
portant on grounds of sex.
The Campus Code, on the oth
er hand, would probably continue
to be enforced by separate courts.
Again, this seems logical since the
relative values of social propriety
among men and women differ.
Jurisdiction of the other presently-existing
courts might remain
the same or, perhaps, a set of a
few more inclusive courts might
take the place of the many strict
ly - limited bodies now in exist
ence. It is important that voters, on
this point, be aware of the multi
faced problems inherent in a court
system set up such as ours is now.
For instance, if a male student
comes into his residence hall in a
drunken state, walks into his so
cial room, and in the presence of
women guests vociferates and de
stroys or defaces property, does
he go before the MRC Court for a
rule violation or the Honor Coun
cil for a Campus Code violation?
With the women, it is even,
more confusing. Article II, Sec. 3,
c. of the Student Constitution states
that "The Women's Council shall
have original jurisdiction in all
cases of violation by women of the
. . . Campus Code . . .".
Article III of the Judicial Pro
cedure of the Women's House
Councils states that "Each Wom
en's House Council shall have orig
inal jurisdiction in cases involving
infractions by Women's Residence
rules of conduct as established by
the Women's Residence Council."
. This seems all right. One court
will hear Campus Code and anoth
er Rules violations.
: But then we find in the intro
duction to "Regulations for Wom
en Students, 1966-67" this state
ment: "Violations of the Women's
Residence Council rules are con
sidered Campus Code violations,
not because they necessarily in
volve unlady-like conduct, but be
cause they fall under the broad
scope of social conduct offenses."
And that's a mouthful. For it
not only creates a contradictory
situation as to what is and what
is not a Campus Code offense and
which court might hear any case,
but it also takes unreal liberty in
defining, a non-Campus Code of
fense as a Campus Code offense.
Student Legislature is the only
body authorized to legislate spe
cific offenses.
And the story goes on and on.
It all boils down to one critical
element the necessity of the stu
dent to have his rights and free
doms protected. (And the students
do have rights and freedoms. The
preamble to the Student Constitu
tion states as one of the docu
ment's purposes to "make person
al freedom secure.")
Such personal freedom and
guaranteed protection of student
rights can become a reality if a
Constitutional Court such as the
one now proposed is effected.
This court would be made up of
members of the student body who
have demonstrated a knowledge of
the Student Constitution and a
willingness to search out the intri
cate meanings of this constitution
for the benefit of those affected
thereby.
Our opposition to the present
judicial system is uncompromis
ing. We refuse to compromise.
The status quo is wrong. It must
be changed. You the student
voter can change it. We beg you
to do so.
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By SUE WERBE
Although it is difficult to
find any overt opposition to
the Experimental College
(EC) at San Francisco State
College, not everyone flips out
over this revolutionary idea.
Some, although not against
the basic principles of the EC,
either haven't heard too much
about it or think that it is an
"in-crowd thing."
"I came here as a new stu
dent and I didn't know any
thing about it," said Vic Cos
tanzo, a junior in engineering.
But he added: "I think it's
a good idea and I'll probably
take some courses next se
mester out of curiosity."
'Playground
Costanzo said he thought the
EC "was sort of a playground
for the hippies. I found out
now that it's not that way, but
they should have made infor
mation on the EC more ac
cessible." Cheryl Kelly, a senior in
psychology, said, "Some of the
classes sound interesting, but
I'm a senior and don't have
too much time left.
"I got the impression it is
rather an in-crowd thing," she
added.
Leslie Thomas, a sophomore
in drama, didn't enroll in the
EC because of a "busy sched
ule." "I like the fervor of the peo
ple involved," she added. "I
attended a meeting of the EC
and everybody there had
something to say."
Influence .
Miss Thomas said there has
been an influence by the EC
on one of her regular classes.
"I had a psychology class
with forty students and it was
going to be a lecture. I asked
the professor if we would
break up in groups instead,
and we did," she said.
But she doesn't think this in
fluence is too wide - spread
because very few students put
pressure on the faculty to
change the format of classes.
"The faculty tends to keep
the old academic atmosphere,
and generally the teachers
lecture. I think people are
afraid of an atmosphere where
there is no authority," she
said.
Others expressed this opin
ion that the absence of tradi
tional authority may make
students uneasy.
Richard Auxen, professor of
Higher Education, said the
"major thrust in the EC is
that they have very limited
authority. Many classes are
taught by students."
'Idealistic'
"This task taken on by the
EC is idealistic as problems
arise with students who have
been conditioned to authority.
Many students prefer authori
tative teaching so they aren't
put on the spot. It's much sim
pler to let someone tell you
what to do, rather than to
think for yourself," he said.
"I'd say that a problem of
the EC is its lack of political
contact" said John Levin a
graduate in English. '
Levin is now trying to or
ganize a course on "Marxism
and Leninism and the Need
for a Revolutionary Party."
Don Jones, a lecturer in psy
chology, said "a diffuse op
position to EC from the older
faculty members, left over
when this (State) was a teach
er's college, who believe that
the EC doesn't seem like the
right kind of thing.
Opposition
"There is specific opposition
by those who have adminis
trative responsibility among
the departmental structure of
the regular college involving
credit. During spring, credit
was given in special study
courses in the EC. They
clamped down this fall," he
said.
"The faculty gets in their
own fox ., hole in their respec
tive fields and they don't in
tegrate courses."
He continued that "many of
the faculty enjoy their posi
tion of self-importance. It
might take as long to break
up the evaluative network
(grades, etc.) as it was to
break up southern planta
tions." "Over-all there is a very
clear majority of faculty sup
port. This year the EC is the
thing to support and as yet
they haven't intruded on the
real power structure of the
regular college the depart
ments." -
But despite EC's growing
pains support is still wide
spread and enthusiastic. -
The courses in the EC "let
you loose from the regular
classes and teach you what
you want to learn," said Ma
rita Bonazza, a junior in art
and English.
Two Courses
She is taking two EC cours
es, "The Lyric Form in Film"
and "Film and Visual Dynam
ics." :
Both courses are taught by
teaching assistants and offer
one unit of credit each.
Her classes have ten to fif
teen students each and oper
ate on an informal lecture and
discussion basis. ,
Jones thinks the EC is a
groovy bunch, a little conser
vative for my taste though."
"Many involved with the
EC come from ideological po
sitions of radical change. They
saw in the EC the possibility
of action and established
strong principles of working
within the institution," he
said.
Assumptions
"But this led them to accept
some assumptions of the reg
ular institutions, such as using
classes as a basic unit. The
use of campus facilities forces
them into classroom patterns.
Then there is an air of for
mality in time and place,
which is forced.
He spent a year and a half
trying to start an experiment
al college at Santa Barbara.
He had some faculty and some
money, but no students.
Jones explained the lack ol
student interest there as "most
students couldn't accept riot
going to a straight school and
getting a straight degree.
When asked how he would
organize his experimental col
lege, Jones suggested "center
ing educational activities
around neighborhoods."
He noted, however, that
the EC does have workshops
taking place in locations oth
er than on campus.
Jones said the EC "devel
oped rapidly and effectively
by going around channels of
decision in the ' regular col
lege. They received a great
deal of support and coopera
tion from the college-wide ad
ministration and the Academ
ic Senate." .
He said "they had little to
do with the department and
school organization, . which
proves. to be much more con
servative than the administrar
tion. Most minor problems de-i
velop when there is an intru
sion on departmental organi
zation." Success ,
Jones attributes the EC suc
cess "in part from the special
talents and motives of a very
small group of people and I
am uncertain what will hap
pen when these people move
on to bigger and better things.
Jones thinks the key features
of the EC are one, a direct
relation between student de
mand and interest and what
gets taught, and two, "it pro
vides for persons whose for
mal qualifications might not
admit them to teaching status
but who have something to of
fer." Jones finds "the atmosphere
and motivation in the EC
much more important than in
tellectual capabilities. You can
always find out about things
by reading. Whatever does
happen in the EC, it is self
motivated." According to Jones, "any
thing could happen to the EC,
from disappearing to taking
over the campus. Much de
pends on the precedent of pos
sible federal funds going di
rectly to a student associa
tion." He said that, "State is such
a poverty area in regard to re
sources. It can afford to ex
periment because it doesn't
have vested interests to lose
either in outside reputation
or inside resources within the
institution. Anything which
would bring in additional funds
is fine."
Threat
One possible threat to the EC
is that from the outside world.
Axen said "the only signifi
cant threat could be the politi
cal climate of this state.
"The students may violate
the state legislature, the trust
ees and the regents, Ronald
Reagan and his boys, the right
wing, and the mass media.
There could be a degree of
happenings that the body poli
tic wouldn't tolerate."
Axen noted that "one of the
five major issues in the gub
ernatorial campaign is disci
pline at Berkeley. This means
that the average man believes
that kids in college should be
told what to do constantly.
He says to himself Am I
paying taxes for kids to tell
me what to do?"
He said, "Another threat
could be if one of the classes
deals in excesses, for exam
ple experimentation in LSD.
If this was played up in the
newspapers it could hurt. Peo
ple would say this is what
happens when students run
things. Politics would capital
ize on this and most unfortu
nately ruin the whole EC pro
gram." But the EC got along all
right with the outside commu
nity at its recent "Whatever
It Is" happening.
This included a dance con
cert featuring well - known
rock groups, a light show, an
art show and various other en
tertainment highlights.
The weekend established
"the first clear contact be
tween two basic groups of
change oriented students: ac
tivists on one hand and hip
pies on the other. They usual
ly look with disfavor on each
other, but the EC has been
the vehicle to bring the groups
together," Jones said.
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Letters To The Editor
God9 MM Paremits Get It Today
God Powerless
Editor, The Daily Tar Heel:
I note by recent news reports
that the good preacher and
prince of hucksters (next to!
Oral Roberts), Billy Graham
is planning a trip to Viet Nam
in the near future. Exactly
what his presence there will
accomplish is beyond me.
Strangely, he will not be
able to involve the greata (fic
ticious) power of his "omni
potent" personal, social God
to stop at once the suffering
and death of our men. In fact,
his appearance there will
only serve to reiterate the
shallowness of his preach
ments and will be another in
dication of the powerlessness
or calculated indifference of
his "god!"
If there is one thing our
brave fighting men in Viet
Nam definitely do not need
now it is a haranguing about
having their "souls" saved
and such other nonsense as
"making decisions for Christ,"
whoever that might be. -
They only know that they
are in a real world of terror
and suffering and death from
which no amount of praying
or preaching by Graham will
rescue them.
Instead of the meaningless
malarkey of Graham, our men
need the assurance that all of
us here at home believe in
the great cause for which
they are" doing so much.
They need the reassurance
that we will spare no effort or
sacrifice to provide them with
thetbest in materials, science
and medicine to enable them
to do their job with a mini
mum of suffering and dying
. . . until this criminal com
munist conspiracy fostered by
Red China is halted. -.
Graham's projected trip will
be an exercise in futility (in
addition to a gross waste of
aircraft fuel. Besides with the
very hot and uncomfortable
weather I understand Viet
Nam has, the additional hot
air which Graham will eject
only serve to drive the ther
mometer up to unbearable
levels. .
Lawrence C. Roush
Wilson, N. C.
Poor Parents
Editor, The Daily Tar Heel:
There's one thing in Victory
Village that particularly dis
turbs me the apparent lack
of concern that some parents
have for their children. I've
seen too many pre - school
children playing on the streets
and between parked cars, and
the responsibility for avoiding
an automobile accident with
these children is placed on the
driver.
What does it take to make
parents realize that they
should be concerned about
their children's playing on the
streets a crippled or dead
child? An accident can hap
pen, you know.
An automobile driver is not
infallible. He can have an ac
cident even when he's exer
cising maximum precaution.
I feel that it's unfair to place
so much burden on the driv
er. Some of this burden of
concern for the children in
Victory Village should also
be shared by the parents.
I say to those parents of Vic
tory Village who allow their
children to play on the streets
be concerned for your chil
dren's" welfare now. Tomorrow
might just be too late.
I dread to say it, but I must
there's not too much you
can do for a dead child. Dead,
because of unconcern.
Arthur G. Hunsberger
Many Thanks
Editor, The Daily Tar Heel:
I am a Brazilian graduate
student in the Political Science
Department. My name is Ro
gerio Feital.
I would like to bring to your
attention the very fine job the
boys at the University Radio
Club are doing. You will agree
with me after I tell you of
my experience with them.
Getting my mail across to
Brazil has been rather haz
ardous lately. I called up Rus
tv Walker, the president of the
club and we met at the Cald
well annex, where their mi
raculous talking machine is
located. I gave him the call
number of a friend of mine in
Rio de Janeiro, and Rusty
with the help of John Dew
started manipulating those
puzzling dials and buttons.
They exchanged messages
and codes in their intriguing
closed jargon for a few min
utes. Before I even knew
what was going on I distinct
ly heard the voice of my fa
ther greeting me from home
in Rio de Janeiro, some four
thousand miles away.
These boys rendered me a
great service and are perfect
ly capable of rendering even
greater, services to our univer
sity community.
I would like them to know
that I am grateful.
Rogerio Feital Soares Pinto
Big Disgrace
Editor, The Daily Tar Heel:
The letter of October 30 by
Messrs. Raby, Hege, and Ash
ton quite justifiably decrying
the lack of enthusiasm for Bob
Hope, was undoubtedly a mile
stone in the existence of the
DTH letters column. I m u s t
wholeheartedly agree with
these three sages.
Oh, how disgraceful it is
that Carolina l?ds and lasses
were not beating down GM's
doors uoon the first announce
ment of the coming of Bob
Hope! How shameful it is that
we did not pack every dusty
corner of that edifice which is
reserved for our collective he
ros and our basketball games!
After all, Carmichael holds
a mere 6000 or so. Anything
less than a sell-out crowd in
dicates an embarrassing dis
respect for the hallowed Bob
Hope.
And never mind the fact
that it was a Thursday eve
ning, for we have a sacrtd
duty to fulfill to raise the
prestige of our alma mater in
the eyes of Mr. Hope and any
one else whose opinion we
need to worry about.
So come, Carolina gentle
men and coeds. Forget the
get that you can see Bob
Hope from time to time much
more clearly (And cheaply)
on the tube.
We owe it to the Chancellor,
VJ5! "tent the Con
solidated University, to the
trustees, and to the voters to
see these sanctified person
ages, whether we feel like it
or not.
William Huf
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