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Copyright 1988 The Daily Tar Heel
Volume 96, Issue 50
Tuesday, September 27, 1988
Chapel Hill, North Carolina
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Sophomore Tom" Silk douses junior Victoria Spencer with water
trom the Old Well Monday. Both are students from Great Britain.
Vacamit seats a 'chronic problem for
By AMY WAJDA
Student Congress has been
underrepresented each of the last five
years, and the last session where each
district was represented is unknown,
congress representatives said
Membership has fluctuated
between 17 and 27 in that time, but
has never been at the maximum of
29. The last time the congress was
full is unknown, since membership
records only go back five years.
Three districts in the congress
UNC students pronounce differing verdicts
on debate; both candidates garner support
By SANDY WALL
Student reaction to Sunday's
presidential debate between Demo
crat Michael Dukakis and Republi
can George Bush is as mixed as the
national electorate's opinion, with
supporters of both candidates claim
"I do believe Governor Dukakis
came out the winner," said Wayne
Goodwin, president of the UNC
Young Democrats. "I thought Gov
ernor Dukakis was mistake-free."
Dukakis took the offensive early
and set the agenda for the debate,
coming across as "decisive," he said.
In this election, the most important
issues are leadership and judgment,
Goodwin said. He questioned Bush's
judgment concerning the Iran-contra
affair, his dealings with Panamanian
strongman Manuel Noriega, and the
selection of Ind. Sen. Dan Quayle as
his running mate.
Peter Hans, executive director of
the UNC College Republicans (CR),
saw the debate quite differently.
"Bush did an excellent job spelling
out the differences between himself
and Mr. Dukakis," he said. Bush
represented more mainstream public
opinion and did a good job labeling
Dukakis as a "far-left liberal," clearly
winning the debate.
Dukakis's answers were often
redundant, and his style was "sim
plistic and rather dull," Hans said.
two representing graduate students
and the other representing a segment
of off-campus undergraduates will
go without candidates in the Oct. 4
Student Congress Speaker Neil
Riemann said the graduate districts
may not necessarily go unrepre
sented. "I think historically a lot of
graduate districts are filled by write
The off-campus undergraduate
seat vacancy could be attributed to
the difficulty of running in an off
campus district, Riemann said. It is
"Bush did an excellent
job spelling out the
himself and Mr,
executive director of
CR member David Whitehead said
while Dukakis skirted some ques
tions, he noticed no major mistakes
by either candidate.
"(But) if I hear Noriega or Iran
contra one more time, I'm gonna
throw up," he said.
Missy Frye, a senior therapeutic
recreation major from Belmont, said
Dukakis' early remark calling Bush
"the Joe Isuzu of American politics"
was silly. Dukakis is a good speech
maker, but not a good persuader, she
said. Frye, who leans toward Bush,
said Dukakis did not present himself
Ruffin Hall, a freshman political
science major from Fayetteville, said
both candidates won. Dukakis suc
ceeded in establishing his credibility'
and Bush succeeded in portraying
Dukakis as a left-wing liberal, he said.
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By DANIEL CONOVER
A joint letter to six area television
stations from the opponents in the
4th District congressional race may
pave the way for up to eight prime
time debates between Democratic
Rep. David Price and challenger Tom
Campaign officials said the joint
letter was mailed Friday, but they
would not speculate on how many
of the debates actually would be
WPTF Programing Director Bob
Wolfe said Monday the station had
received the proposal but could not
fit the debate into the week of Oct.
3, as suggested in the letter.
Wolfe said the station would offer
two other prime-time broadcast slots,
but that they would be later in the
Prime time is considered the eve
ning hours between 7 p.m. and 10
p.m., he said.
The station will lose advertising
By WILL SPEARS
Four UNC students identified as
pledges of the BetaTheta Pi fraternity
have been charged with possession of
stolen property, according to Chapel
,HiU and.ym-VersitynoJice report?.
According to police reports, stolen
items' included license plates, lawn
furniture and other property.
more difficult to contact people while
campaigning in the more spread-out
areas, Riemann said. "Off-campus
districts are difficult to get people to
run for because it's more complex,"
Congress speaker pro tempore
Jurgen Buchenau said lack of infor
mation is one of the main reasons
for the lack of student involvement
in the congress.
"I think a lot of people are very
unclear as to what we're doing,"
Buchenau said. "There's a lack of
information about what is currently
perfonnmaimcev prompt divers
Mario Nicolas, a sophomore psy
chology major from Long Island,
N.Y., said he plans to support
"He was clearer and not as nervous
as Bush," Nicolas said. "He held
Nicolas said he was disappointed
there was no mention of South Africa
and other "black issues outside of
Both candidates were well
prepared, so the debate was a "toss
up," said Taft Stephenson, a junior
economics major from Lynchburg,
Va. Bush's stand on national defense
was the most prominent issue of the
debate, said Stephenson, who sup
Abortion was the most prominent
issue of the debate, and the candi
dates' opinions on it made sophomore
Sabrina Smith, a business major from
Lumberton, lean toward Dukakis.
But she may not support him if he
cuts the military, because she is in
ROTC, Smith said.
Lisa Campi said she "was plea
santly surprised with Bush" and plans
to support him. The freshman bus
iness major from Rockaway, N.J.,
said, "I do not want to see that man
(Dukakis) in office."
Ilva Jones, a junior economics and
speech major from Goldsboro,
echoed the popular sentiment that the
debate was very close. "It was very
informative," she said.
revenue if it televises the debates,
Wolfe said, but he did not specify how
Price campaign chairman Mike
Davis said he was not surprised that
WPTF had already turned down the
"It's a starting point," Davis said
of the dates. "I would guess that the
likelihood that those dates would go
through is slim. It's up to them (TV
Two of the stations, WFMY in
Greensboro and WGHP in High
Point, are based outside of the 4th
"They have a lot of viewers in
Randolph County, so we hope theyH
respond positively," said Bob Harris,
press spokesman for the Fetzer
Under the joint plan, WTVD in
Durham and WPTF in Raleigh
would host one debate apiece during
the week of Oct. 3, WRAL in Raleigh
would host a debate the week of Oct.
The four students charged are
Frank Harris Lewis, 18, of 17 X)d
West Residence Hall; Mark Phillip
Garside, 19, of 308 Grimes Residence
Hall; and Stephen Chase Hemphill,
18, and Brian David Moore, 18, both
of lJOld West. ... ; .,.
Hemphill," Lewis and Moore were
each charged by University police
with possession of stolen property.
going on in congress. They don't see
what they have to do with it."
Riemann described students as
being "cyclically aware" of the
congress. Aside from elections and
budget time, said Riemann, "we're
not highly visible the rest of the year."
Jamie Thomasson (Dist. 1), a
graduate representative, sees gradu
ate students' involvement in "con
suming disciplines" as a cause of the
lack of graduate student involvement
in the congress.
"Time and location constraints
keep you caught up in your own
Political experts say Dukakis victorious;
opinions vary on strength, effect of win
By MICHAEL SPIRTAS
Staff Writer '
Most experts interviewed Monday
said that in the aftermath of the
presidential debate Sunday, Massa
chusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis
emerged victorious, but few agreed
on the margin or effect of the victory.
"Dukakis was more forceful," said
Thad Beyle, political science profes
sor. Beyle, who attended the debate
at Wake Forest University in
Winston-Salem, said Dukakis needed
to be forceful because he is running
against an incumbent.
Dukakis was most forceful on the
issues of defense and health care,
Matt Reese, a fellow at Harvard
University's Institute of Politics, said
both candidates performed well, but
Dukakis looked presidential and
"Dukakis did marginally better
than (George) Bush," said Rogers
Smith, political science professor at
Yale University. Yet Smith said
Dukakis' performance would not be
enough to swing voters in his
But at least one political expert said
the vice president won.
"Bush was marginally more effec
tive than Gov. Dukakis," said Dave
Hoppe, vice president for governmen
tal relations at the Heritage Foun
dation in Washington, D.C.
Bush seemed calm and in control,
10, the Guilford County stations
would host the week of Oct. 17, and
WUNC would conclude the schedule
the week of Oct. 24.
Two additional debates were pro
posed for the weeks of Oct. 10 and
Oct. 24, with any of the stations
already on the list or a combination
of stations hosting the events.
The campaigns agreed on a format
which would provide one hour of
debate broken into three 20-minute
segments. Each candidate would give
four minutes of opening remarks and
then answer questions from the
moderator, including questions pro
vided by the opposing campaign,
which the moderator would select.
In the final segment, the candidates
would question each other directly,
and then conclude with four minutes
of closing statements.
"We're not going to make any
special preparations," Harris said. "I
see this as something that will give
the voter a chance to see where they
Police said Hemphill was in posses
sion of a lawn table, and Lewis was
in possession of a stolen license plate.
Garside was served a criminal
summons by Chapel Hill police and
was charged , with one count of
possession, of. stolen . property,.
According to the report, he was in
possession of a wrought-iron chair.
According to Chapel Hill police
field," Thomasson said. "We tend to
isolate ourselves, which leads to a
feeling of not really being a part of
Buchenau also cited a difference in
priorities as affecting graduate
involvement. "They (graduate stu
dents) can't relate to issues affecting
undergraduates," he said.
Riemann said graduate students
are caught in a "catch-22" situation.
"They don't have confidence in the
government to help them, but they
won't be able to make that (govern
ment help) a reality unless they run
Dukakis was most
discussing his view of
the federal role in
issues such as health
insurance and the
Dave Hoppe of the
an area which has been a problem
to the vice president in the past, said
Bill Balthrop, associate professor of
speech. In this respect, Bush has done
a good job in continuing the image
building that his campaign has
worked on since the Republican
convention, he said.
Phillip Meyer, Kenan professor of
journalism, helped conduct a study
on 100 undecided voters during the
debate. The study, which measured
the voters reactions every two
seconds of the debate, showed the
candidates coming out fairly even, he
said. But this was a victory for
Dukakis, who came into the debate
as more of an unknown and an
underdog, Meyer said.
In their second and last debate in
October, Dukakis should fill in
background information on his
stand, and let the chips fall where they
Davis also said he felt it was
important to put the two candidates
together in front of the public. The
voters need to see who the candidates
are, he said, and the debate format
offers the opportunity for more than
"30-second snippets about whom the
candidate is voting for."
Price debated "two or three times"
in his first congressional race, but the
debate will be Fetzer's first as a
candidate for office, Davis said. The
two appeared together in Raleigh
earlier this month.
If the debates go ahead as sched
uled, they may have a large impact
on the election. Davis refused to
release the results of in-house polls
on the election, saying what they
show is that "there are a lot of people
who are undecided."
Despite Price's incumbency, Davis
said, "no one on Price's camp went
into this thinking it would be easy."
reports, a representative of Chi
Omega sorority reported Friday that
a table, chair and couch were taken
from the front of the house, at 313
E. Franklin St.
The couch was found in the middle
, of Vine jmain floor J3(,the Beta ,Theta .
Pi house at 114 S. Columbia St,
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for office," he said.
Audrey Vanden Heuvel, president
of the Graduate and Professional
Student Federation (GPSF), sees the
lack of graduate student involvement
as a problem of awareness, not
apathy. "It's a communications'
problem," Vanden Heuvel said. "The
biggest problem is that they're not
aware of the openings and what they
No one from Student Congress has
communicated with the federation
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domestic proposals, said Hoppe of
the Heritage Foundation.
Bush needs to be more specific on
issues and not as easygoing in their
second and last debate in October,
The vice president's campaign
would do well to lower voters'
expectations for the next debate,
much as they had done for Sunday
night's clash, Reese said.
Most experts expressed dissatisfac
tion with the format of the debate.
The Bush team insisted on the rules,
which allowed only a panel of
reporters to question the candidates.
The Bush camp, which was pro
tecting a slight lead in the polls, had
more to lose from an open debate,
Beyle said he was surprised at how
quickly the debate became comba
tive, withr Dukakis using his first
statement to attack the Reagan-Bush
administration's dealings with Pana
manian dictator Manuel Noriega.
"There was not much foreplay,"
Dukakis performed best when he
charged that Bush, by opposing
abortion, was branding women who
choose such an option as murderers,
the experts said.
Dukakis was most impressive when
discussing his view of the federal role
in issues such as health insurance and
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