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iJpOR THE FREE iPHESS. $h tlowltrd: A have observed in the tvo Inst numbers of the Raleigh Consti tutionalist, thnt the knowing Editor of that paper seems to have taken his text upon your notions of Internal Improve ments and Hail Roads, &c. and as my opinions and yours seem to agree abontt iho'o subjects, I may add my notions al-; -so. Though lie goes on at considerable length condemning and criticising -your' remarks, and says he is puzzled to di vine by what mode of reasoning, or theo ry of logic, you make appropriations for internal improvements operate directly or indirectly upon the pockets of the peo ple; yet he has philosophically pointed out or intimated a plan by which it may be done without the aid of the people, which is this, that the Legislature has the riijht and they are the proper persons to 'judge of those things, and that i hey can appropriate the surplus funds of'the State to objects of this sort, and in this way it will' cost no individual any thing. A fine plan indeed! I would now like to know of the gentleman how this surplus fund got into the State treasury, and whether or not it did not once belong or was in the hands of the public, and if it did no' come indirectly from their pockets! I 'would also like to know if the funds of the State were expended on objects of internal improvement, of which there is little or no doubt.it will be if ever corn m'nced, if the treasury of the iState would not have to be replenished by the citizens of the State? 1 should say it most certainly would. And I would ask, would it not be much more prudent for the funds of the State to be applied to the payment of the annual and necessary ex pences of the State, of which we all know there are such expences and they must be paid! If this surplus money is squan dered foolishly or extravagantly, a reim bursement must'be made from the pock ets of the people, in order to defray those State government; and 1 conceive that the money in the public treasury belongs indirectly to the people as well as to the State, although it is styled the funds of the State. And as this young Solomon said by his friend Howard, I would be lad to know where he procured those splendid ideas of rail road making, &c. to get along so well with it without its costing the people any thing! This idea cannot be original with himself, he must have borrowed it from some sage of for mer days, who understood rail roads both in theory and practice; and from what IV r. Ramsay says about the matter, I should almost conclude it might be dne without money and without price, fie talks beautifully about it, and it renlly sounds very pleasing to the ear of any body to hear his remarks read on the subject he says a great deal in favor of rail roads, and it all looks very well on paper, and he says he believes there is no. part of the State but what would be more or less benefitted; I am like him in part, for whilst the smaller portion of the State might possibly be a little benefitted, the larger portion of it would be so much less benefitted as to be an evident injury to it or, in other words, a cent's benefit and a pound's injury. But the learned Editor says nil these handsome things about rail roads, with out bringing any kind of evidence to sup port him in it, with the exception of De Witt Clinton's project of connecting JLake Lnc with the Hudson river, which he says was considered by the New York people as quixotic in the extreme, and which they rejected as being pregnant with the most disastrous consequences and so far the result has shown that the people acted right in opposing it, for not withstanding the great number of years since the Siato of New York became v!""11 thia Prjct bY t" Artier De Wilt Clinton, it has never yet been able to bring forth even enough to pay the tees of the midwife, and the attendants on her whilst in her confinement. And fear, friend Ramsay, if you should get 1" StQt Fannin with the project of a -j.m oi internal improvement, she will be attended with like consequences be always in labor and never bring forth. Now, Sir, I do not pretend to be at ail knowing on these subjects, hut I want the people -of the State to dispose of their money 'in their own way; and let those who want rail roads and canals make them and have the benefit resulting from them; and those that do not wish them, let them go along the uld way, viz: in the sand, up and down lull, through mud and mire, in rivers, creeks and what not. -Although you say the people are not .always judges of their own interest, and ask who knows better about those things than the members of the Legislature, a person might judge from your remarks that they are quite a -distinguished and a profound -class of citizens; but unfortu nately for th State and the people, I hap pen to be acquainted with a number of them myself, and if I wished a quetion which involved the least mystery or I i fli culty settled, or to have it judged of cor rectly, I do assure you I should not call upon them I would as soon go to a mus ter ground, or a horse race, and call out the same number of men there to decide a question of character for me, as to leave it to (he decision of (he -Legislature. 1 am by yur mode of reasoning in this re spect, like yourself by your friend How ard ito say the least of it, it is childish. And from your mode of reasoning and ascertaining facts, 1 should think and re commend at least, that from your pro found knowledge, research, und acute ness of perception, heaving and swelling, that you be appointed by the next 'Legis lature, judge and commander in chief over nil the canals, rail roads, and in fact over lho,whole of the internal affairs of the State of North Carolina. Nothing more for your friend Ramsay. EDGECOMBE fully asked to suspend their opinion on lint subject until they can be fully am! fairly laid before then). Certain friends of those unfortunate men, alleged to be the perpetrators, have been accused of participution to a crimi nal extent in the flight of the perpetra tors; every word of which is no doubt false, and has no other ground to rest up on than malicious presumption. The writer of this is in no wise con nected with either party, and it is written without any knowledge on tho part of the friends of the accused he can therefore have no wish to forestall public opinion, but only wishes to have the public judge from facts, noi from hearsay. FAIR PLAY. 2 1: Z'r.-X SATURDAY, JULY 13, 1833. CANDIDATES. Election on Thursday, 25th July next. For Congress. Thomas H. Hall. General Assembly - Senate. Gray Little. Hardy Flowers. House of Commons. John W. Potts. Moses Baker. Turner Bynum. Clerk Superior Court. J A ME W. ('LARK. Clerk County Court. Michael 1 1 earn. Joseph Bell. James Barnes. jpWe would inform our patrons that we have purchased the material of the fiivenville Patriot and added them -to our establishment and that we are now enabled, having also in creased our force in the mechanical department, to execute all orders for printing in a more expe ditious manner than heretofore. Fatal rfffray. We learn that on yesterday week, at a muster in this county, an affray oc curred which unhappily terminated in the in fliction of several wounds with knives on Chris topher Harrell, Jr. of which he died the second day thereafter. The jury of inquest returned a verdict, that the deceased came to his death by wounds inflicted by William Gray Little and Cullen Little. The parties all have families the deceased has left a wife and five small chil dren. The persons implicated have as yet elu ded pursuit. A correspondent has furnished us with the fol lowing remarks, relative to the above truly lam entable occurrence. Mr. Howard: So many reports have got abroad in regard to the recent death of Christopher Harrell, jun. it may not be amiss perhaps to eaution the poblic a gainst believing every thing they hear. The real facts in regard to the unfortu nate uflfiiir will probably be developed in a short time, aud the public are respect- CunihcrlandRobcit Strange, Jufu. Huske, L. I). Henry, John f 1. Uall V J. Hale, E. Arnold, E. W. Wilkin. James Sea well, W. Waddill, jun. Thom as L. Hybart. fj upliri V i 11 i a m W t i g h t . Franklin James Farrier, Wood T Johnson, Nathaniel 11. Tunsiall. Granville William M. Sneed, Spcri cer O'Brien, Thomas W. Norman, Thomas B. Littlejohn, Memucnn lh,Mt. Halifax Joseph J. Daniel, Edmund Freeman. Johnston J. H. Smith, Bythan Bryan. Josiah O. Watson, Daniel Boon, Chris topher Christophers, Reuben T. San ders, John C. Smith, Jus. L. Lench James Frilick. Lenoir Isaac Croom, Hardy ), Groom, Nathan B. Whitfield and George Whitfield. New Hanover William B. Mearp?, John D. Jones, Joseph A. Hill, Alexander MacRae, Wm. J. Love, Thomas Hill. Patrick Usher, George H. McMillan. iVasi Henry Blount, Stephen g. Sorsby, Geo. Boddie, jun. Crafge Hugh Wad del I, Wm. J. Bingham, Professor Philips, Walter Norwood, Alex'r Henderson, James II. Norwood, Frederick Nash, Wm. A. Graham, John Scott, Samuel Child?, Cadwallader Jones, Wm. F. Sirudwick, James Mebane. Sa?np$on Thomas J. Faison, II. C. m. iv i r by, Ullen iUoblcv, Wm. Faison. Wilkes Samuel F. Patterson. Wake David L. Swain, Geo. E. Badger, Jas. Iredell, Wm. MePheeters, Wm. H. Haywood, jr. Wm. Boylan, Hen ry Seawell, Geo. W. Hay wood, Charles Manly, A. J. Lawrence;, J. C. Stedman, Thomas Cobbs, Weston R. Gales, James Gram, Cyrus WhitakiT, Johnston Bus be, Alfred Jones, Henry A. Donaldson, H. Warren, T. Pullen, John Y. Young. Warren John C. Green. Thomas i! of Norili Caroli j"' ClB- lftU Jf Ph ' J0M. Gf, derail... 8pii.Ho M,, e" f"Ut , . j'," '. J" Si)meml?" truynr. rnom uorucn, James D-. Whitfirhl, John W. Sasscr, H. M. Jeter, John Wright. A Committee, composed of one mem' ber from each Delegation, was appointed, to whom were referred all mailers of en quiry, with instructions to make a gener al report. This Committee made a de tailed report on Friday afternoon, which elicited a most able, animated and portrac tcd discussion. After being modified in several particulars, it was adopted by a vote of 55 37, on Saturday afternoon about 4 o'clock. Nearly the whole of the debate which occurred in the Convention, took place on a Resolution reported by the Committee, which affirms, that the true policy of the State requires that its funds should, in the first instance, be ex clusiveltj applied to providing the mean? of internal transportation, and in crea ting and improving markets, within her own limits. This Resolution was op posd by Messrs. Iredell, Badger, &)eud, O'Brien, Graham and Nash and advo cated by Messrs. J. A. Hill, Strange, Gaston, J. II. Bryan, Haywood, Henry and Patterson. The Reoort as ndontnd. nmhr.aee? substantially, the following Resolutions: 1. That the condition of the Stale require that a liberal system of Internal Improvement should be immediately organized and vigorous! prosecuted. 2. That the Legislature ought to provide a fund, by loan or otherwise, to enable the Sta' to contribute substantial assistance in the prose cution of works of Internal Improvement. 3. That true policy requires that said fum' should be appropriated, in the first instance, tt build up markets in our own State. 4. That it be recommended to the Legislature to provide by law, that the State shtl subscribe two fifths of the Stock in any Company here.if ter incorporated for the purposes of Internal Im provement, whenever the other three-fifths shaK be paid, or secured to be paid, by individuals. 5. That the President shall appoint a commit tee to prepare an Address to the nennle of the. State, on the subject of Internal improvement. 6. That the Proceedings of the Convention he laid before the Legislature at its next session. 7. That Committees of Corresnondpnee be ap pointed in the several counties. 8. That it be earnesllv recommendrd to tin citizens of the several counties in this State, t( elect three Delegates from each count v. to hold a Convention in the City of Raleigh, on the 4l Monday of November next. to deliberatefurthe! upon the subject of Internarimproyementa. Laying the Corner Stone of the Slate Ca pitol. VVe learn from the Raleigh papers that this imposing ceremony took place on the 4th inst. It was estimated that 3000 ladies and gm- lmen were in attendance. The Rev. William Hooper offered up a prayer lo the throne of grace and Dr. Simmons J. Baker, Grand Mas ter, addressed the company. A circle was for med around the corner stone by the Masonic or der, and the usual rites upon such occasions were performed. There were several very neat and appropriate addresses delivered upon the oc casion ono by Judn Seawell on the part of the Commissioners of the building, and one by Gov. Swain on the part of the State. The Re gister says: The following articles were envelop ed in one paekatje, covered with wax, und placed in a leaden box, which was T1 . XX7 i . i t o o. a Holmes, V deposited in the Corner btone, viz: A .r 0 printed Copy ot the Journal ot the pro ceedings of tho Provincial Congress of North Carolina, held at Halifax on the 4th April, 1776. A printed Copy of the Declaration of Independence by the Cit izens of M klenburg C-utity on, the 20th May, 1775, with accompanying Doc uments and the proceedings of the Cum berland Association. The Declaration of Independence of the United States with fac simile signatures. A pamplet containing the Constitution of the United Stales and of the fcMnh na, and the Rules of Order and House t Commons of N. C. A neat Copy of the Holy Bible. Also, a variety of Coin, and one copy of eaeh Newspa per printed in the Stte. There was likewise deposited a Silver Plate, bear ing an appropriate inscription one side in English the reverse in Latin. On this Plate, were engraved the names of the Commissioners of tho building, the Officers of State, the Speakers of the two Legislative branches, &c. &c. Internal Improvement Convention. Vie copy from the Raleigh Register the subjoined account of the proceedings of the Convention which assembled at Raleigh on the 4th inst. It will be seen that there were 118 delegates in at tendance, from 20 counties, and ' that there was but one delegate present from that part of the State west of Orange and Chatham. The Kditor of the Fayetteville Observer states that several propositions for Rail .Roads were submitted lo the Convention, of which he recollects the fol lowing: a rail road from Raleigh to Waynesbo rough from Weldon lo Watrenton and thence to l.ouisburg from Weldon to Oxford from Halifax to Fayetteville from Fayetteville to the Yaukin, another from some point on the Roa noke westwardly, and to be connected by lateral roads from each to Raleigh from Raleigh to Newbern from Raleigh to Wilmington from 'fayetteville to Wilkesborough from Raleigh to Fayetteville. A goodly number truly! and sufficient, we should judge, to absorb the "sur plus funds" of the State at least during the natural lives of the present generation, if they can be i i rr . i . . J persuaueu 10 suner mem thus to be appropriated. The Convention was organized at the Uovernment House, on the afternoon ot tho 4th, tiy the appointment of His Lxcellency, David L. Swain, as Piesi dent, and of Gen. F. Patterson, of Wilkes, and Charles Manly. Esq. nf ; . 'v00 vuiuiunes. ju taKing the Chair, the President made an annroori- ate Address: The Counties having been called over alphabetically, the following Delegates, 113 in number, appeared and took their seats, viz: From Beaufort County Z.W Barrow Brunswick V. J. Hi, Francis N. Waddell, J. Waddell, H. Y. Waddell. Bladen John Owen. CVflWB-Wtn. Gaston, J. IJ. Hryan, John K Burgwin, Wright C. Stanly. Chatham Son. Haralson, Abraham G. Kean, C. J. Williams, William H Harden, l Le MessuriW PharU. r ... terloh, II. S. Clark, Thomas Prince!
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