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' Ft THE WEATHER. CeneraHy fair, except", probably' lo-' tiii showers Sunday and Monday; light variable winds. ! : - i ( si -' 'V b . ' - v. , - t VOL. LXECVm-r-KO; H '' ' "m . . . V New York to Philadelphia , Flight Proved Thrilling. Contest Ye$terday. TAKES BOTH FAME AIID GOLD Wtll Known Southern Aviator Gets Prize of $5,000 -Hugh Robin- son and Eugene Ely Other Contestants. I Philadelphia, Aug. 5. Lincoln Beachcy, the hero of many, thrilling performances inthe air, won the first Ions distance cross country aeroplane race ever held in the United States, this afternoon when he flew froni New York to Philadelphia, defeating Hugh Robinson and Eugene Ely. His time from 33rd and Broadway, .New York, to Ninth and Market streets, Phila delphia, about 95 roiled wasj two hours 22 2-5 seconds. Ely did not finish. He came down near Princeton Junction, N. J., with motor trouble, and did hot go up again. All three' used Curtiss biplanes. , . ' V- j The race, which was for a prize of J5.000, was witnessed by hundreds of thousands of people In New York, alonp the route and In thiacity. It is estimated that 50,000 persons were Wssed on Belmont Plateau in Fair mont Park,, where the aviator descend ed. Beachy was given an enthusiastic reception. I Thq birdmen made their ascent from Governor's Island, in New York bay. It was originally planned that the men to make the race should be Beachey, Robinson and Charles K. : Hamilton. Hamilton made the first i aeroplane flight from New York to Philadelphia a year ago, but at the last moment de cided he would not; participate .in to day's race. He did not like the pros pect of taking up a new machine in a tricky wind, and after some delay Ely consented td take his place. The start was mad from the island at 2:40 P.M. The a viators, headed north to New' York city, and up to 3&rd street, where they were "DfTIciallyl- timed -as they passed over the roof' o a depart ment store.' With a graceful swing tb?y turned . to the southwest'- and were off in a straight line to New Jer sey. Once across ' the ; Hudson driver they picked up the .Pennsylvania rail road tracks and followed them. Near New Brunswick Ely was forc ed to make a landing tecanse of en gine trouble and Robinson descended, mistaking New -Brunswick I for Tren ton. Peachey's engine worked with out .1 s;Uin nnrl ho rnmn down npnr the Trenton fair grounds for gasoline and6 oil. His stop was about ten minutes. From . Trenton it was a straight away sail of 35 miles down the river to Philadelphia. Y A dense crowd was gathered on Market street at the department store wh:n the race officially ended and Beachey was given a great ovation as he passed. At the, city hall he cir cled the great tower,, which rises 547 feet in the air, then turned northwest ward. In a fow minutes later he had made an easy landing. In Fair Mount Park. After the excitement -of Beachey 's coming had subsided there was a long wait for the other men. Finally the signal flap;s told the crowds aloilg the route that another blrdman was com : ing. It proved to be Robinson. As he passed over the finish line he made a Kraeeful dip and then' flew on an air line to the park. MILLION FOR MISSIONS- Resolution of Christian Union of the Presbyterian Church. Baltimore, Aug. 5. The Young Peo ple's Christian Union of the . United I'sbyterian Church at today's ses sion of their annual 20th annual con vention passed a resolution "pledging the members to raise $1,000,000 for Byssions in the coming year. . The niaiit iido of the taskMs appreciated X tin: delegates, .'but they i expressed finiidfiice in .their ability to raise the r,ii"l pointing out that for severaf H-arss ipey have held a position,, of honor aiurmg all the denominatipns on a"oi.nt. of the generosity of tne av ei;(' Rifts of the members. .'Another j' solution pledged the members M t'1'1 1'nion to work to wininto some CJir ist ian church 21,000 persons. This ?fJort will be made to get members ' !';ir denomination, but where jhaf cannot be done they are pledged t0 work just as hard' to persuade an' ''"'h'lniied persQn to affiliate: with ine other Christian denomination. . MURDER NEAR FREMONT. colored Farmer Killed Another in Wayne County. N. C, Aug. 5. -The little 'la'fit-ii town ,, Fremont, in Wayne county, w lilillerl ahrmt 11 nVlnnlf tnnl?ht Mien ,.i(l,;r galloped Into town and a'inour,( that murder had been done ;,K" 'hr- mile from town. One M'MKr, LeWi8 Mclver, had shot ; and '"''l instantly a neighbor named neighbor "'-oruc M.iiMfftrv Pqiioa f Irltl rcr nnt "'l definitely known.. Mclver fled and suit ers', iu5e naa si.an.ea in pur lioth parties ar colored farm- Should your eves need 'attention. 1 II I I . m.. . ' , "ii up. ineberg,- M? sonic Temple up. BEACHEY ill. AERQ ..... ... i), . .7TT- v -V 'i. 1 1 " His Influence is Felt: . : X- ..:.-'. w,-. -' :-:-.--.'v' " y, :r ...v : - : y .. ' .. i - . - - . i - tf'j", X j. ' Cj s J V' S ' y HON. F. M. SIMMONS. , - . As the result of the request of Senator Simmons, of North Carolina, yesterday, the Senate Committee on Finance decided to give tomorrow, Tuesday, and Wednesday brief hearings to North and South Carolina cot- . toa manufacturers on the cotton bill now pending in Congress: SIMMONS' REQUEST GRANTED Senate Committee Will Give Hearing ' to North and South Carolina . .v Cotton , Manufacturers :, ;. Tariff Revision Bill -V ft Washington, D, C, Aug. 5. Tb? Senate Committee on Finance announc ed, today that as the result of the re quest of Senator Simmons of North Carolina brief hearings would be eiven ilonday. . Tuesday, and Wedifcsday to fotton manufacturers on' the cotton bill. The finance committee took up the bill. today. , Senator Smoot moved that it be adversely reported at once. Senator Williams movsd that a favor able, report be made.- In the discus sion that followed Senator Simmons urged tfyat the North and Sbuth Caro lina manufacturers of cotton goods be given a hearing and the committee finally agresd to the three days delay. By order , of the Senate, the bill will have to be reported back On Thursday, August 10th. Whatever progress was made letween Senator LaFollette and Representative Underwood today in arriving at. a compromis? on the 'wool tariff, , was not Imade -public tonight Democratic Leader Underwood, repre senting the Democratic Majority" of the' House in, th& struggle how under way to - reach an agreement,- said tonight that the conferences with Senator La Follette' will be -resumed Monday, but that a compromijse wool bill is not like ly td' be offered to Congress for three or four days. ; ' ; The full joint : Conference committae consisted bf : five Senators and five rep resentatives, met; over the wool bill today,: but decided to give -Senator La Follette and Mr. Underwood a further opportunity to reach an agreement; Tiie frfes- list bill was referred, to the same ,'notiators who now have in their, care all the points qf tariff differ ence between the two Houses. Upon their ability "to reach an agreement, on 4he two bills rests the prospect of the passage or compromise wool ana iree list tariff bills. , NEWSPAPER ENTERPRISES Two Weekly .Publications are Charter ed at R3leigh. . (Special Star Correspondence.) 1; Raleigh,, N. C.r Aug. S.tWo news-: naper publishing -companies ' were chartered today, one. fpr-. Dallas; ; Gas ton county, and the other "for Clayton, Johnston county. TheDallas Publish ing Co., Is 'chartered with $10,000 cap ital authorised and $1,030 subscribed- by E. L. Houser, J. P.-Hoffman and others. The Clayton Publishing Co., is chartered with $2,000 capital au tborized and '$500 subscribed by - C . W. HcriMf,-J; F. Farley:' and others. Both- havtf for their purpose the pub lication of daily br weekl;pe,wspapers and general' job printing- V'.. NORFOLK-SOUTH ERNtW RECK. Eastbound Train From Wilson Derail ed on Embankment. 1 V . . . ' '(Special Star Telegram.) Wilson, - N. , C, Aug. 5. Eastbound Norfolk-Southern passenger , .. ti;ain, about 5 o'clock this afternoon was wrecked ' about ,10 ' miles east of Wil son." .The track was nadiy -torn . up for ov3r a hundreS' yards, but, no one Was Injured.,, The wreck occurred on a high embankment, but no cars went WlLMUN (jtTON, N. TREATIES EXPOSED BY SENATE Unusual Action Created Some .Inter est in Congress Two Senators . Voice 'Opposition to Com pulsory Arbitration. - Washington, Aug. 5. The Senate today adopted the rather unusual but not unprecedented ceurse.of making public the text of four- treaties which have not yet ' received action at its hands. These were the Anglo-American and the Franco-American general arbitration treaties and the treaties providing for. the adjustment of the -finances and customs, of Honduras and Nicaragua. Publicity was given to these impor tant conventions at the request of ttie administration which desires that the subject 'matter shall receive full pub licity in order to enlighten. the Senate as to the real sentiment of the coun try as a basis for its own action. Some justification for; this proce dure developed today when in the course of a short executive session two Senators of opposite parties, Bo rah, of Idaho, and Bacon, of 'Georgia, voiced their, dissent to the arbitration treaties in the form submitted. Their criticism was' aimed at article three (identical in the two treaties) which in their, opinion, provides for compul sory arbitration and thus tends to dec prive the United States Senate of its constitutional,-prerogative. The trea ties' advocetes, . however, felt that there had been a misunderstanding as to the scope of the treaty by the two senators, and that a clause in article one of the treaties, : which provides that there shall be no arbitration ex cept under the terms of a special agreement, effectively guards the rights of the Senate, as such special agreement shall receive the Senate's sanction in order t become opera tive.1 . Aside from a" few minutes' talk in committee and a very sho-t debate in executive . session, the treatment of the subject- was purely formal. The Senate went into executive session almost as soon, .as it convened to re fer, the treaties to the Committee on Foreign Relations. The committee rret later "ahd -adopted the resolution to make the treaties public, which re ceived -e .appfdval ' of the Senate shortly af terwaf d. The British and French treaties are substantially the visame with the ex ception qf the preambles, some small differences- in dates of existing trea ties referred to therein, and some of the mechanical-differences between the treaty making methods of the two governments. Orie important provision of the British treaty requires the Brit ish government to obtain the concur rence of any of Its self-governing do minions affected by the proposed arbi tration. ;i ' No-date has s yet been set for the consideration of the' treaties by the Senate "Committee - on Foreign Rela tions, fin the ordinary course it will meet net Wednesday, .but there are indications ; that, in view of the short time remaining of the present ses sion, one or more' special meetings may be called befona that day. It is impossible to predict what the Senate will, do with the committee's report when it Is made, but in view of the great press of .important , legislation it would be easy to . prevent ratifica tion of the treaties at this session if opposition developed. In view of their importance, It is estimated that a md- 1 : (Continue on rage Eight) C, SUNDAY MOKNXNa, TAR DOES HONOR TO IK TOGO Invites Japan Through Naval Hero to Join WorIdwide Peace Movement RECEPTION AT WHITE: HOUSE Brilliant Event in Honor of Visiting Notable Hgh Tribwte Paid tm peror of Japan in Toast from the President. Washington, Aug. 5. President Taf t tonight extended to Japan through the nation's guest, Admiral Count Togo, at a dinner in : the White House In henor of the Japanese hero, an invita tion to Join ttie United States Great Britain and France in the-' great world movement for International peace. Rising from his chair between Adini l al Togo and Speaker Clark, the Pre ident offered a-toast to the Emcpror cl Japan. Then turning to 'Count To go, he said: Ki "I would indeed fail in my duty, and be untrue to my own deepest convic tions did I not take this occasion of the first public welcome to you aS our National guest to express my wn ap preciation, and that of the American people, of the broad and humanitarian view taken by his majesty, the Em peror of Japan,' and the imperial Jap anese "government in so readily and generously affirming, in the most pos itive and solemn manner, that no con sideration of selfisu interest should be permitted to obstruct the progress of the great world movement for In ternational peace as exemplified in the general treaties of arbitration be tween the United States, Great Brit ain and France, signed on the day of your arrival in this country. I gladly acknowledge this important part; whioh Japan" has played in facilitating! this notable achievement by 'its prompt and unreserved recognition, in the recent Aaglo-Japamese agreement, of the great moral principle of arbi tration, and I entertain: thoiewith ; confidence, that the time inAV vnot"be far when Japan willee fit to join in the movement now st auspiciously in augurated." . In toasting, the aSnrperor of Japan, the President aid:' "To one who has shown himself a great ruler,' Who has given all of his time and energy and intellect to the progress of His country, and the pre servation of the interests of the peo ple, whose wonderful power in the selection ofigreatmen to accomplish great tasks has lifted Japan to a place among the first nations of the world, and whose sense of humanity and jus tice can be always county on to con tribute effectively to the peace of the world his majesty, the Emperor of Japan' The toast was drunk stand ing. Count Togo acknowledged the toast through Conimander Taniguchi, his aide. He said: '.'Mr. President: It Is my pleasant duty and great honor to convey to his majesty theEmperor, my august sov ereign, the most kind words you have just said for him. As for me, words fail me to express what I feel deeply at heart. I can only say that I thank you most heartily for the honor you have done me." The dinner was held in the State dining room and a magnificent gold service was used. The tables were decorated with red gladiolas. Follow ing the dinner, a reception was held in tne East room at which several thousand people were present to honor the Japanese admiral. Norfolk, Va., Aug. 5. Rev. McDan iel Howsare, pastor of Memorial Chris tian Temple here today announced his resignation to become a missionary of the CShristian denomination in Porto Rico. His special work will be in Ponce. Rev. Howsare was originally from Ohio. OUTLINES. , Admiral Togo was honored witn a dinner and reception at. the White House yesterday. President Taft in a toast to the Empsror of Japan invited that nation, through the naval hero, to join the movement for world peace Lincoln Beachey- yesterday won the first cross-country race from New York to Philadelphia, for a prize of $5,000.' Ely and Robinson were also contestants In the race (Colonel Theodore 'Roosevelt yesterday appear ed voluntarily before the Congression al committee investigating the Steel Corporationand told his own story of the deal between big steel . interests that averted a disastrous panic in 1907 -The Senate Finance Commit tee yesterday granted the request of Senator Simmons to delay action on the cotton tariff revision bill to give North Carolina manufacturers a chance for a hearing Striking street car employees triumphed In Des Moines yesterday, forcing all the strike break ers to leave the city New York markets : Money on call, nominal; time loans, firmer; flour, firmly, held, with fair inquiry; wheat spot, easy; No. 2, red new, "94 1-4 t.oJb. afloat; corn, spot, easy; export, No. 2, 71 1-4 f.o.b. afloat;, oats, spot, steady; standard white, 47 1-2; rosin, ; quiet; turpentine, steady ; spot closed! quiet ; middling uplands, 12.75; middling gulf, AUGUST , 1911, ENT PLANS ProposedTrip to Pacific Coast Considered Beginning of Campaign. WILL COVER MANY STATES Taft Will Make as Many Political Ad dresses as Possible West of the Mississippi May Last Uuntil November. Washington, Aug. 5. The most' im portant trip that President Taft has planned since he has been in the White House, in the view of the Re publican leaders, a trip during which he is expected to open the 1912 presidential campaign for his party, will begin on September 16. It will last at least four weeks and should it later be decided to extend the 'out ing to the Pacific coast, it will be stretched into six weeks so that the President will not get back to Bev erly or Washington until November. According to the plan so far drawn up at the White House, the President will visit more of the States in the Middle West, north of and Including Missouri, he will make incursions In to practically all of the States which Have progressive Congressional dele gations. The President so far has given almost no consideration to speech making on this trip, but if has long been the idea of Republican leaders that he would make as many political addresses as possible west of the Mississippi. With three definite dates on the schedule, the whole trip has been tentatively arranged. The first at Knoxville, Tenn., where on the 18th th'er-President is to open the Appala chian exposition. The next is at Rochester, N. Y., where on the 23rd the President will address the nation al encampment of the G. A. R. Be tween Knoxville and Rochester he may return to Beverly for a day's rest-' . -;X)the. Southern States havVaskud the President to visit them in Sep tember and it is probable he will ac cept some of the invitations. , From Rochester the President .will make a jump to Hutchinson, Kans., where he is to speak at the State fair September 25th. On the way he plans to ,stop at one of two cities in Mich igan, at Chicago and probably "will make a few rear platform, or even other sort of platform addresses In Iowa. From Hutchison the President ex pects to travel into Nebraska, South Dakota, Minnesota and Wisconsin, where he may see Pauline Wayne, the White House cow, which is to be on exhibition at the international dairymen's exposition in Milwaukee. From this point the party may turn again into Kansas and Iowa. If the trip is to end in four jveeks Milwaukee probably will be the last stopping place. If it should be ex tended, the President will journey to Denver, Colorado Springs, Salt Lake and the coast, taking, in California, Oregon and Washington and returning East over a northen route. CONFESSED BRIBE TAKER. Representative Beckmeyer, of Illinois, on Stand Yesterday. Washington, Aug. 5. Calmly giving a wealth of detail omitted at the first Lorimer investigation former State Representative H. J. C. Bekemeyer, of Illinois, today re-told to the present Senate Lorimer Election Investigation Committee his story of how he was paid for voting for Lorimer for Sen ator. He followed on the stand Chas. A. White, confessed bribe-taker in the Lorimer election, who had been testi fying practically the whole week. Beckemeyer re-told in detail how Lee O'Neill Browne urged him to "vote with the bunch" and later in St. Louis gave him a roll of money, saying "this is the Lorimer money. There will be 70 more in the future." He told again of Robert E. Wilson paying him $900. He said Detective Turner and White told him White was going to publish an exposure and told of the warnings he received from Browne and Wilson, Beckemeyer said he tore up the Immunity order given him by State's Attorney Wayman before he testified before the grand jury and that he was subjected to no compulsion to make him confess. Discussing the "fish bill jack pot", the witness said: "Joe Clark told me that it was said money was raised among the fisher men and paid to State Representative Foster and he had never turned it in to the larger jack pot, and that Fos ter and Browne had trouble about it. The witness admitted that he. might have said that a man was a fool who would not take jack pot money, but said he "realized now that it was a great mistake to take it" Beckemeyer's examination was not completed when the committee ad journed until Monday. Lumlna Concerts Today Mrs. Frank Pearson sings at both concerts. . The 'programmes ' also In axtette from "Rigoletta," over ture from "Tancred"r "Echoes from th nnoras": a selection from "Faust", a trombone 'solo. A new revelation for smokers Hoff man House cigar formerly 10c value, now 5c at Gerken Tobacco Co., only. PHD SEPTEMBER TOUR DES TilOIIIES STRIKE SERIOUS Street Car Employes Rid City of Strike Breakers Not a Car In Motion Yesterday Outsiders Barricaded. Des Moines, la:, Aug. 5. Striking street car employes of the Des Moines City Railway required just one day to rid the city of their ancient enemy, the strike-breakers. Tonight it was announced that every strike-breaker brought to this city from Chicago or Omaha,, either had given up his job and gone, home or was in jail to pro tect himself, from violence tonight and would depart by the first train to morrow. Riots which at times threatened to prove serious and led to the calling out. of Federal and State troops, wild hunt for strike-breakers, assaults and brok en heads marked a day of intense ex citement attendant upon the strike. Street car traffic was stopped com pletely, not a car having moved since the men walked out at 1:15 o'clock this morning. The strike feaders pre dicted tonight that they would win. The company made no statement. The tie-up was accomplished with ease. One attempt to get a car into operation this morning was so quickly frustrated by Union sympathizers that no further attempt was made. In anticipation of further riots, May or Hanna this afternoon ordered every saloon in the city closed. They will remain closed during the strike, ac cording to the order,, whether it con tinues for one week, one month or longer. ' The police today were almost a unit in sympathy with the demon stration against the strike-breakers. By 6 o'clock practically all of the strikebreakers had either left town" or were in jail for safe keeping until tomorrow when they will be allowed to depart. . . In the absence of cars manned by strike breakers upon which to vent their feelings, the mobs sought out the boarding houses of the imported men. The worst mob ot the day surround ed the Iowa hotel during the afternoon and demanded that the strike-breakers under guard there bfe turned over to it. - The fire department was called upon and temporarily dispersed the mob with heavy streams of water. But the mob re-formed and it was not un til International Organizer Fred Fay, of i Ypsllanti Mich., appeared on the -acfeflfc ' avpaled -to. the f rioncde'n the conductors and njotormen to dis perse that they did so. . The. Strike breakers in the Iowa hotel, who came In last night from Omaha, were sent to the second street car . barn. They grew hungry as the day wore on and finally demanded that they be sent back to Omaha. ' A squad of police was escorting them to the train when the mob made the attempt to wreak Its vengeance on them. The officers tried to get - through" the crowds, but were finally forced to take refuge. In the Iowa hotel. Here the mob tor three hours kept the police busy. The crowd was twice dispersed byi water, and then it retaliated with bricks and brickbats with the result that one policeman received a deep gash in the forehead and another slightly hurt. After Organizer Fay's speech the crowd left the vicinity of the hotel and the strike-breakers, who had lost their trains; were taken to the county jail and lodged there for sofe keeping. Writ of Injunction. judge Lawrence Deurane issued a mandatory writ of injunction in the District Court tonight, ordering the city railway and its employees to re sume within a reasonable time the same service as before the strike. This will probably mean that the service will be restored as usual Sunday morn ing, although-there is some question as to whether the order will be obeyed. CHICAGO PLAYER SUSPENDED. Tinker Out of Game for Season "Indlifferent Fielding." for Chicago, Aug. 5. Joseph Tinker, short-stop of the Chicago National League Baseball Club, was suspend ed for the rest of this playing season and fined $150 today for "indifferent fielding," as charged by Manager Frank Chance. Tinker's failure to pursue Daubert's short fly in the sixth inning of today's game, with Brooklyn was charged by Chance with respon sibility for two runs and the -manager rebuked Tinker with .all the force for which he is noted. "If you don't like my fielding, why don't you send, some one else out there?" -returned Tinker, whereupon the' short-stop was hastily ordered from the game. . Chance immediately telegraphed Johnny Evers, who Is re gaining his health in -the. Adirondacks, to hurry on to join the team, and Ev ers may be here to face New York in the first game. Immediately after the game, Chance held a conference with President, Murphy and Tinker's sen tence was pronounced. .. Zimmerman Is said to be slated for the berth made vacant by Tinker's re moval. - . ' Richmond, Va-t Aug. 5. President Taft has definitely, informed the offi cers of the 'American Association-for Highway Improvement that he will make an address on the subject of the improvement and maintenance of pub lic roads at the convention of , the as sociation to be held in RichmOf No vember 20 to 24. The President will Speak on the opening day of the con vention Monday, November 20th. ' jr: Mrs. Frank Pearson will sing at both the Lumina concerts today. A new revelation for smokers-Hoff- man House cigar formerly- 0c value, now 5c at Gerken Tobacco , uo4 only WHOLE NUMBER 13,680. eor surprised steel cominEE Makes Dramatic Appearance and Def ends Himself in Interesting Story. HIS ACTION TO AVERT PANIC Gives Details of Consent to Absorption of Tennessee Company by Steel Corruption Thoroughly Rooseveltlan. New York, Aug. ' 5. Theodore 'Roosevelt stalked boldly before the House of Representatives Committee Inquiry in the United States, Steel Corporation here today and voluntar ily told how his action in consenting to the absorption of the Tennessee Coal & Iron Company, by the iSteel Corporation in x907 averted a disas trous panic. The former chief executive's action in submitting to a Congressional re view of facts of his own administra tion was almost unprecedented in the history of the United States and was thoroughly Booeeveltian. ' He arrived unheralded at the city hall, vigorously shook hands with members of the committee, declared himself delighted to see everybody and got down to bus iness. 'First and foremost he placed upon himself responsibility for approving the absorption to save a perilous fi nancial disaster In rVall street and condemned any man' who would be so weak as not to act as he did in that crisis. Pfobably nothing In the vigorous life history of TheOddre Roosevelt was more dramatic than his public ap pearance today at the crisis of the in vestigation Into the transaction which has been recorded in hundreds of pages of Congressional , inquiry. After" declaring that his object in approving the sale of the Tennessee Company was . to restore confidence the former President,' in response to inquiries by Representative Littleton , relating, t -, tixirniM ..-WMte House cohfefencfrlii Mtfember,' 1907, " at which Judge Gary-; and H . C . Frick were .present,, said.: . "The itaation was so critical that it was liable to break at any moment until :,the action was taken, and tho instant It was taken an enormous Im provement for the better occurred." Thent Mr. Roosevelt launched into a discussion with Chairman Stanley, of the geheral trust question, saying that the United States had something to learn from Germany. "Mr. Stanley," Mr. Roosevelt broke in, switching the line of inquiry in progress and of this particular corpor ation, the Steel ' Corporation,, that I know you will not accept silence on my part as indicating anything as to my attitude on the general trust question as you know it. I have stat ed again andvagain Vhile I was Presi dent, in messages to Congress, which were not always received with as much enthusiasm as they were writ ten, and since then in articles and speeches, just what I have felt the attitude of Congress toward these great corporations should be, and as you 1cnow, I believe in a far more drastic and ' far more thorough-going supervision and control over them by the National government than we have 1 yet aohleved. "On any occasion I should have been very, glad to have spoken with you on trust remedies. I am sure you will not achieve your purpose by splitting up- the;big corporations. "While something cto be done along that line, the, work must be done by our National government acting as the government of Germany has I think, in the potash matter acted by actual ly, in the Interest of all the people, interferring and exercising a degree of control over a big corporation which it would be wholly unnecessary to ex ervlse over a corporation that has no monopolistic taint." "I wish to say," Mr. Stanley replied, "that I am not of the opinion that the dissolution of the United States Steel Corporation into its constituents parts is an adequate remedy." "You are quite right," said Mr. "I believe," the chairman continued, "that we must divorce absolutely the United States corporation from every common carrier on the continent and by law force the common carriers to charge the Steel 'Corporation Just what they charge other peopje. We must destroy a rebate which Is against the spirit of the law as well as a re bate which is in violation of the letter of the law. If that is done, and If In addition" , "Judge Landis tried to do that and failed," interjected Mr. Roosevelt, his comment provoking loud laughter. . The chairman said he would prevent a director of the v Steel Corporation from becoming a director of railroads and denounced the system of Inter locking directors. "With the general purpose of what you propose," said Mr. Roosevelt, "I am in hearty sympathy and I should go farther still In exercising direct control over these big. corporations. And allow me to say. sir, you have known them at some distance. I have lived near them and I know them well.";- - - .' .. In responding to questions directed tfi the Tennessee coal and Iron trans- " action, and the testimony of Grant B.. (Continued on Page 8.) Tl over. -