r If-. THE WEATHER. COMMON CENTS - Fair and colder today; Friday fair. It shows common sens nd b ring's com mon cents to use and read the Morning Star Want Columns. They are simply alive with Opportunities. VOL. XCI NO. 72. WELMIKG-TON, N. C, THURSDAY MOKNTtfGr, DECEMBER 19, 1912. WHOLE NUMBER 13,198. FIGHT BEGUN CONFERENCE WILL WATERWAY CASE S REOPENED MAN LINES WILSON IS PICKING CABINET aOyes turned 'Pi110" HAFIR HOW W. R. HEARST GOT "Oir LETTERS Foraker Claims Correspond? ence Was Stolen and Sold to Publisher. J "yccessful in Preventing RESUME SE General Bixby Orders Another Investi gation of Beaufort q Key West Project As Result of Hear ing Tuesday TO ASK FOR HELP President-elect Holds Conference With rr . ... QIPCUTTa ion of Senate, ' v the Encoun McCombs and Takes Up Task In Earnest Bryan's Name Is Mentioned But RetT - ter Arv-MJncertain. SOS Uli iimu ui ununi J. P. Morgan Holds Center of Stage at the Money Trust Investigation. HIS TESTIMONY PRELIMINARY Says He Favors Allowing Inter-State Corporations to Deposit Their Funds in Hands of Pri vate Bankers. Washington, Dec. 18. J. Pierpont Morgan occupied the center of the stage today before the so-called money trust, investigating committee of the House of Representatives. The noted financier reached Washington last nidit in response to a subpoena from ihe committee, but it was not until ' 40 o'clock thiai afternoon that the way was cleared for his testimony to begin. Meantime, Mr. Morgan sat for near lv an hour listening to the mass of sta tistics, which Mr. Untermyer and the committee vas piling up, concerning the colossal financial operations of leading New York, Chicago and Bos ton institutions through so-called in terlocking directorates. Mr. Morgan heard his own name and that of his firm referred to many times as tables were presented showing the affilia tions of that concern with many oth er banks, trust companies, transpor tation and industrial corporations. He appeared to be unmoved throughout it all. sitting surrounded by a number of his business associates, relatives and legal representatives, including J. P. Morgan, Jr., his son, and Mrs. Her bert Satterlee, his daughter. .Mr. Morgan's appearance aroused the keenest interest and crowds of spectators were on hand to observe the proceedings. It was. to some ex tent a culmination of much. that had gone before in that, branch of the in quiry under, the headjof the concentra tion or' money and credits. v Mr. Morgan's, testimonx-Jasted bare ly 20 mmuteS'alKriray largely prelim inary to the testimony to be given to morrow when the committee re-assem-Lie, at 10:30 A. M. Mr. Untermyer conducted the ex-) ruination of Mr. Morgan, asking a rapid series of questions to bring out The general standing of the firm of J. P. Morgan & Company, its' branch con nections in this country and abroad and its affiliations with many other financial institutions. The preliminary examination brousht out no clashes, Mr. Morgan responding promptly to the various queries or calling for data from some of the representatives of the firm which would be responsive to the questions propounded. The chief point made in today's ex amination of Mr. Morgan was that he favored allowing inter-State corpora tions to deposit their funds in the hands of private bankers without re stricting them to institutions under governmental supervision. He said this was a matter to be left to the dis cretion of the iteards of directors of corporations in question. Mr. Unter myer asked lengthy questions develop ing this idea, to which the financier replied briefly in the affirmative as to allowing the inter-State corporations fo o deposit their funds with private nanking institutions. Mr. Morgan confirmed data prepar ed by members of the Morgan house showing that 66 "Recounts with the -Morgan firm in January last had de osirs of $68,113JOOO and that 78 ac counts on Nocember 1st, had deposits of $51,968,000. The total capital, sur plus and funded debt -of these deposit ors, Mr. Untermyer stated, was $9, Tn.Vino.ooo. Mr. Morgan agreed to this. Prior to Mr. Morgan's examination 'lif- committee heard testimony bear nu on the so-called concentration of money and credits. This was present ed in the form of charts prepared by I'hilip J. Schudder, which was placed m the record. This explanation show ed that the charts dealt with the affil iation of 180 directors In 18 banks and 'rust companies in New York, Chica- ami Boston. It showed that "these 1Vl men held in air 746 directorships 11 l:4 banks and trust companies, 'rui.sportation and industrial corpo rations having a total resource or cap ita nation of $25,325,000,000." it also gave in detail affiliations of ' !' Morgan & Company, and other "adin- financial Institutions in New ft!:. Chicago, and Boston. fv-ki borate charts were presented to !I' -':-se Money Trust Committee todav - ' i g lists of "inter-locking directors" " u number of leading financial and ''iu trial institutions, also a table "showing affiliations of J. P. Morgan rmian Guaranty Trust Company, Ran,;ers Trust Company. First Na tlfmal Bank and National City Banr. l other corporations through "inter ' kins directorates." This was in pursuance to that ranch of the committee's inquiry bear on the so-called "concentration of money an(j credits." prepared summary of the table - mter-locking directorates says: This table showB the affiliations of 1 v selected financial ' institutions, namely: P. Morgan & Company. New Vi Washington, Dec. 18. The long threatened' fight in the Senate over the confirmation of President Taft's nominations for office, broke on the floor of the Senate today and in the first skirmish the Democrats were suc cessful in preventing an executive Ses sion demanded by Senator Cullom, Re publican. The results of the encoun ter were uncertain tonight, but the Republicans threaten to continue ef forts to secure aij executive session for action on the scores of appropri ations now pending. A Democratic caucus early in the day, in w&ich the Democrats agreed to permit the con firmation only of Army and Navy ap pointments, paved the way 'for the fight on the floor. In the midst of a speech by Senator Hoke Smith, of Georgia, Senator Cullom, representing the Republican forces, who refused to accept the ultimatum of the Demo crats, made a demand for an execu tive session. The Democrats filibus tered against the motion, rushing out into the cloak rooms on the roll call to break a quorum, and succeeded in delaying action until the court of im peachment convened for the Archbald trial. Republican leaders said tonight they would continue the demand that all appointments be treated in execu tive session on their merits. "We were not going to let the Re publicans put us in a corner without warning," said Senator Hoke Smith. "The President has dumped upon us the nominations which have been ac cumulating for the past six months. We have a committee making an in vestigation of them, but there are hundreds of them and we have not been able to procure the information necessary to enable us to act upon them intelligently. We are willing to take the responsibility if that is want ed. The Democrats are anxious 'for the confirmation of the army and navy nominations. I have prepared a mo tion for an executive session for ac tion only upon those appointments, which I. will offer as a substitute for any motion the Republicans may make." - ---' On the basis of figures they have compiled from the records, Republican leaders are claiming that their Demo1 cratic colleagues are violating all pre cedents in holding up the nominations of President Taft. During the final sesions of the Arthur, Harrison and the two Cleveland administrations, they cite figures to show the bulk of nominations were given approval by the Senate. The figures show the precedents in American history," said Senator Smoot, of Utah. "The Republicans are not attempting to have confirmed officials whose terms expire after the new administration begins. They are insisting that the Senate follow the custom and confirm nominations to fill places where commissions have expired, or which become vacant be fore the Taft administration is ended. 15 AMERICANS FIGHT 150 Hold Off Mexican Bandits Until Fed eral Troops Arrive El Paso. Texas, December 17. Fif teen ranchmen defended the Dumbre ranch, an American property in Chi huahua State, for nearly two days against 150 bandits, who later were dispersed by Federal troops. Troops sent from Parral. nearby, through appeal from American Con sul J. J. Long, routed the .bandits, killing 32. YESTERDAY IN CONGRESS Senate Senator Kenyon concluded his speech on inter-State liq uor shipment Jill. Committee investigating campaign fund contributions continued its hearing, with former Senator Foraker tes tifying. Court of impeachment re sumed trial of Judge Archbald, with expectation of concluding testimony in defense before adjournment. Democratic caucus reached decision to permit only con firmation of Army and Navy nominations before holiday re cess. Senator Bourne elected chairman joint Congressional Committee to promote Federal aid in highway construction. Senator Hoke Smith spoke in support of Lever Educa tional Agricultural bill. Senator Bristow introduced bill for preference primaries for appointment of postmas ters. House Money Trust Investigating Committee resumed hearings. Banking sub-committee de cided to report unfavorably Levy bill to relieve stringency in money market by placing $50,000,000 from treasury -in National banks. Passed Burnett Literacy Im--migration bill to "bar immi grants over 16 who. cannot read. .-.-. Resumed consideration of Indian Appropriation bill. t t 4- t t t 4- i 4 It Is Thought That Turks May Be Allowed to Treat With Greeks THE ATTITUDE OF RUSSIA Premier's Speech In Duma Regarded As Peaceful Factor, But His Country Stands Firmly Be hind the Balkan States London, December 18. The nature of the decision which the Turkish gov ernment arrived at today is not known, but is believed to be such as to en able the Turkish-Balkan peace confer ence to resume its deliberations. Considering, that under the terms of the armistice Turkey is debarred from revictualling her besieged fort resses, she has little to gain by un due delay. The growing strength of the military party, in Constantinople, may, however, bave an unexpected in fluence on the development of the situ ation. The Russian premier's speech in the Duma, which was awaited with much interest, is regarded as a peaceful factor, but at the same time it is a plain intimation to the world that Rus sia stands firmly behind the Balkan States in support of their securing all the legitimate fruits of their victory and therefore, may be regarded some what in tne light of a warning to Austria. The Servian government, meanwhile, is doing its utmost to avoid needlessly provoking Austria. Premier Pa-clutch, according to a Belgrade despatch, has written to the editors of the leading newspapers urging them in the inter ests of peace to refrain from publish ing articles provocative to Austria, and two Belgrade papers have been seized for attacking Austria. . In accordance with the request of the delegates to the peace conference, Sir . Edward Grey has appointed Her urair Cauieroir Norman, first -secretary of the British diplomatic serv ice, ' to take charge of the secietariat of the conference. The ambassadors of the powers at their, meeting this afternoon confirm ed their decision to maintain impene trable secrecy concerning their dis cussions. Russian Premier's Speech. St. Petersburg, Dec. 18. A desire for the preservation of European Ipeace, combined with the determina- tion to defend witb the Nation's whole strength Russia's vital interests, was the keynote of a speech on Balkan affairs made by Premier Kokovizoff, in the duma today. M. Kokovizoff paid a tribute to the warlike virtues and the unanimity of the Balkan peoples and continued: "The Russian government is glad it has not had to change its calm atti tude. There is no ground for suspect ing Russia of selfish designs or of a desire to aggravate conflicts. "The Russian government hopes the united,' efforts by which the powers are inspired will help them to arrive at an agreement which will reconcile their interests with the just demands 1 of the Balkan States." The premier prefaced his speech by notifying the duma of the" inten tion of the Russian government to ask for further credits to enable it to perfect' its system of National de fense. He concluded by congratulat ing Great Britain on its incentive in suggesting an ambassadorial discus sion on the points at issue in Europe. WOMAN HEARD IN SENATE. Miss Mary Boland Testifies for Judge Archbald. Washington, Dec. 18. Miss Mary Boland, o Scranton, Pa., a witness today fof Judge Robert W. Archbald, of the Commerce Court, who is on trial by impeachment for alleged mis use , of lii judicial power, is the first woman to appear before the Senate since 1905. In that year another tes tified at. the impeachment trial of Judge Swav,ne, of Florida. Judge Archbald probably will take the witheBS stand in his own defense before the conclusion1 of the trial. It is expected, that about 10 witnesses will be-gxaltilned following the Christ mas recess. Miss Boland is a niece of William P. Bolahd, one of the principal witnes ses against the judge, and is a ste-nographjer-.in her uncle's office. At torney A." 5 iYorthington asekd her if E. J. Williams -had toM her, Septem ber 18,-1911, that he had just come from Judge Archbald's office and had seen there- a brief the judge had pre pared f oh -the Erie Railroad in the lighterageVcase. She replied in the af firmative.. ' C. S. "Woodyilff , of Scranton, testi fied that C. G. Boland had asked him to use his Influence in an effort to have Judge Archbald bring a settle ment Of the cases pending against the Marion Coal Company, with the under standing that the impeachment charg ed against Ju&ge Archbald would not be pushed. - M.rf Woodruff said that he went to Judge Archbald and informed him of the attitude of the Boland brothers. ,'t":i -Fireworks. Nptylon Bale at Warren's, Front and Market (advertisement) Wilmington Star Bureau, 23 Wyatt Building. Washington, D. C,, December 18. General W H. Bixby, chief of the board of army engineers, today order ed the Board of Review to make an other investigation and report on the proposed extension of .the inland wa terway from Beaufort to Key West, Fla. General Bixby's action today is a result of the hearing, yesterday in which a number of leading North . Car olinians asked General Bixby to re open the case. j General Bixby today i paid high trib ute to Hugh F. MacRae, of Wilming ton, who yesterday made an excellent impression upon the v army engineers. Representative Houston, of Tennes see, said tonight that there is little doubt that the Webb liquor bill will be taken up in the House and passed immediately after Congress meets the first of January. WARSHIP TO CONVEY BODY Widow of Ambassador Reid Accepts The Offer of- Great Britain London, December 17. Mrs. White lay Reid has decided to accept the of fer' by the British government of a warship to convey the body of her late j nusoana to the united states. The ar rangements will be completed between' the British Foreign office . and tlW American State Department. Among the first wreaths to reacfl Dorchester House was one from Queen Mother Alexandra. Hundreds of applications have bean received already from prominent per sons for seats in Westminster AbJey for the memorial service for the ate Ambassador, which is to be held on Friday. Touching tributes were paid.t the late Ambassador at a large meeting today of the American Society. Many appreciative peeches were mack and resolutions were adopted paypg re spect to his memory and expressing sympathy for his. family, The president of the gtherii;, Wal ter Blackman, said no( name would take a higher place tfian mat - of 'Whitelaw Reid in the T3hg Itet of il lustrious ambassadors jent from the United States to the Court' of St. JaVnes. j Consul General John L. Griffiths spoke eloquently of Mr. leid as a pow erful bond of union bet 'een the Unit ed States and Great Briliin. Charge d'Affaires Irwi B. "Laughlin, R. Newton Crane, ex-pfcsident of the American Society; F. . Van Duser and Col. Ashley Cole sso spoke, the latter as a contemporar of Whitelaw Reid in New York jouralism. Sir Hiram Maxim, tfc staff of the embassy, and many prqninent Ameri cans were present. i A resolution of sympjthy with Mrs. Reid and of appreciatin of the late Ambassador's charactel and public services was passed bjj the American Luncheon Club,! whiclj is composed of representative busiess and pro fessional men and of Shich Mr. Reid was the only honoraryjmember. BURNETT BILL fASSES Literacy Test Immgiralon Measure Goes Through th House. Washington, Dec 18-The House today passed the Burnet literacy test immigration bill 178 to 2. The measure, a subaltute for the Senate Dillingham bill, ould bar from the United States immkrant over 16 years old unable to reaf except those proving to have emigrated on account of religious prosecutioqat home. OUTLIVES President Taft has dqided to accept the Kent prof essof ship If law at Yale. The House yesterdy passed the Burnett literary test irmigration bill. President-elect Wilsn yesterday- held a conference wit Wm. F. Mc Combs, in New York ;id took up in earnest the task of piking his cabi net. Although the decisid of the Turk ish government is not hown, it is be lieved it is such that he peace con ference will be able toresume its de liberations. As the result of effrts of a com mittee of Wilmington msiness men, Chief of Engineers Ecby yesterday ordered another invesgation of the inland waterway fron Beaufort to Key West, Fla. J. P. Morgan held tW center of the stage at the money tru investigation yesterday, but he occpied the wit ness stand for only a fir minutes, his testimony being prelinnary to that he will give today. Following an arrangcient with At torney General Wickeuiam, the Un ion Pacific and Sou then Pacific rail roads will appeal to Court for instructions A how to work out the dissolution pip. decreed by the court. Former Senator Josih B Foraker presented a statement at the- cam- paign contributions hefing yesterday which'claimed the "Stndard Oil let ters" were stolen fron files and sold to a reresentative of W. R. Hearst. New York markets: Money on call firta, 3 '3-4 to 5 per clt; ruling rate 4 3-4; closing bid 3 3 offered at 4 bpot cotton closed steady. Wheat firm; and 1.08. Corn firm, tine easy Rosin firm. eady. Flour no. 2 red 1.07 3-4. Turpen- Will Appeal to Court for In. structions to Work Out Dissolution. ARRANGED WITH WICKERSHAM Attorney General Will Not Approve Any Plan Involving Distribution Of Southern Stock Owned by Union Pacific New Yorlc, December 18. Robert S. Lovett, chairman of the executive committee of the Union Pacific and Southern Pacific railroads, announced this afternoon that he had arranged with Attorney. General Wickersham to appeal at once to the United States Supreme Court for instructions iu working out the dissolution plan of the railroads. Mr. Wickersham, the an nouncement continued, has refused to ip prove any plan involving the dis tribution of Southern Pacific stock lowned by the Union Pacific. In support of his contention that Southern Pacific stock be distributed among Union Pacific shareholders, Judge Lovett cites the Northern Se curities case and the cases of the Standard Oil and American Tobacco companies. These, he asserts, are fundamentally comparative with the Union Pacific-Southern Pacific disso lution. The unusual course adopted by the Harriman officials is taken in the in terests of all parties, Judge Lovett says, and in the hope that the decree of the Supreme Court may be facili tated. Judge Lovett's statement follows: "Immediately after the decision of the Supreme Court in the case in volving the relation of the Union Pa cific and Southern Pacific, the board of .directors appointed a special com mittee composed of R. S. Lovett, M. L. Schiff and Frank A. -Vanderlip, to work out and submit a plan for promptly and fully carrying, out and conforming to the decision of the court, and the matter was at once taken up with the government. The Attorney General of the United States has refused to approve any plan involving the distribution of the $126,650,000 par value of stock of the Southern Pacific Company owned by the Union Pacific Railroad Company exclusively, to the stockholders of the latter in proportion to their holdings, whether by sale, dividend or other wise and has declared that he would appeal in the event the district court should approve pro" rata distribution. "We find nothing in the opinion of the Supreme Court in this case to war rant the government in denying to stockholders of the Union Pacific the rights enjoyed by the stockholders of every other corporation that has been required to dispose of stock held qon trary to the Sherman act, where a pro rata distribution was practicable as it is in this case. "In the Northern Securities case every stockholder of the Northern Se curities Company received both North ern Pacific and Great Northern stock in preparation to their holdings of Northern Securities stock; and this deliberation was specifically approved by the Supreme Court. In the Stand ard Oil case the decree, which was af firmed by the Supreme Court, provid ed for a pro rata distribution among the stockholders of the Standard Oil. "In the Tobacco case an unquali fied deliberation was impracticable because of complications arising from outstanding mortgages, changes in plants, etc., and a division of proper ties by the American Tobacco Com pany with two new corporations was made, but the entire stock of the new corporations was sold to the holders of the common stock of the American Tobacco Company in relation to their holdings. "In the Powder case, a plan of dis solution was accepted by the Attorney General which involved a pro rata dis tribution to the stockholders of the principal company. "As the mandate of the Supreme Court has not yet been issued, we have arranged with the Attorney Gen eral for the presentation of the mat ter Immediately to the Supreme Court, by motion, for instructions to the Dis trict Court in sending down the man date to the court. We regard the right of the Union Pacific stockhold ers involved as so fundamental that we feel compelled to carry the matter to the court." WILL PERMIT CONFIRMATION. Democratic Senators Agree to Let Ar my and Navy Appointments Pass. Washington, Dec. 18. A decision to permit the confirmation of army and navy appointments before the holiday recess was reached today by a caue cus of Democratic Senators. All other nominations are to be held up until after the holidays. Among those held up are the nomi nation of Inter-State Commerce Com missioner Clark and all nominations in the diplomatic service, including that of Larz Anderson, as ambassador to Japan. - Fireworks. Now. on. sale, at Warren!s, Front and. Market. - (advertisement.) Princeton, N. J., December 18. Af ter a three hours' conference in. New York with William F. McCombs, President-elect Woodrow Wilson an nounced as he rode home tonight that he had taken up in earnest the task of picking a cabinet. The Governor remained over in New York today af ter addressing the Southern Society there last night. No information was forthcoming from either Mr. McCombs or the President-elect as to the names dis cussed for cabinet jJortf olios. When Mr. McCombs left the Governor he declared that both the cabinet and legislative policies had been talked over. He was asked if Mr. Bryan's name had been mentioned in the dis cussion. Mr. McCombs answered in the affirmative, but declined to com mit himself further. The correspondents in questioning the Governor on his train later in formed him that Mr. McCombs had said Mr. Bryan's name was mention ed in the long conference. "Oh, well," explained the President elect, "we talked about the conference we are going to have soon with Mr. Bryan." Mr. Wilson intimated that no time or date had been fixed for the meeting with Mr. Bryan. It was suggested to him that Mr. Bryan was due in New York Saturday to attend a dinner in honor of Governor elect Sulzer. Mr. Wilson said he would be un able to attend the banquet. He did not know yet, however, whether he would see Mr. Bryan on Sunday or immediately afterward, while Mr. Bryan was in this vicinity. The Governor was asked by one of the correspondents if Mr. McCombs would be one of the men who would go with him to Washington to help "him to run the government?" "Of course he will," was Mr. Wil son's reply. He would not say whether Mr. Mc Combs would act in a'n official' 'or un official capacity. - Wbile Mr. Wilson was in New York a number of politicians were strolling about the corridors of the same hotel. among thttm"-R?presentatrv: a n Mit chell Palmer, National committeeman from Pennsylvania, and Edward A. Goltra, National committeeman from Missouri. Mr. Goltra told the newspa per men he had just come from Miami, Fla., where he had spent a week with Mr. Bryan purchasing some real es tate. "Mr. Bryan expressed himself quite fully to me on the political situation," said Mr.. Goltra. National Chairman McCombs talked with Mr. Goltra, but it could not be learned whether the information as to Mr. Bryan's views were communicated later to the President-elect by Mr. McCombs. "I did not learn that Mr. Gpltra was at the hotel until I was about to leave for New Jersey," said the President elect. "We are old college friends. I am sorry that I missed him." The Governor saw Senator Owen, of Oklahoma, and Colonel E. M. House, of Austin, Texas, and talked politics with them, but he had nothing to say about it tonight. TAFT ACCEPTS PROFESSORSHIP President Will Take Up Duties at Yale In the Spring Washington, December 18. Presi dent Taft has made up his mind to accept the proffer of the Kent Pro fessorship of Law at Yale recently made to him and probably will take up his duties at New Haven early in the Spring. The President was said tonight to have determined upon accepting the Yale professorship for several, rea sons. He will not be restricted merely to lectures to Yale students, but will be permitted to lecture, if he desires. in other law schools, or upon the plat form, or to engage in any other occu pation which he sees fit. The analogy between the Yale pro fessorship and Grover Cleveland's re lation with Princeton appealed to Mr. Taft strongly and when many of his close friends and advisers wrote to him approving his acceptance of the chair at Yale, he decided to take it. The President expects to spend sev eral weeks after March 4th in Augus ta, Ga., where he has"passed two Win ter vacations. New Haven, Conn., Dec. 18. The news that President Taft has made up his mind to accept the Kent profes sorship of law at Yale, was received with keen pleasure in Yale circles here tonight. President Arthur T. Hadley said he was "very glad the President had made the decision and Dean Henry Wade Rogers, of the Yale Law School, said, he-was delighted. WILL ACCEPT GOVERNORSHIP. President Taft Will" Appoint Col. Geo. Goethals. Washington, Dec. 18. President Taft has received ' assurances that Col. George Goethals, builder of the Panama canal, will accept the post of Governor of the Panama Canal Zone,.. His nomination probably will be sent to the Senate after the President's re turn from Panama. It was said today that Lieut. Col. W. V. Judson, engi neer commissioner for the District of Columbia, has been favorably thought of for a high post in the zone govern ment by the President. Fireworks. ' " "" , Now on sale at Warren's, Front and MarkeL ' -- (advertisement.) STATEMENT OF TRANSACTION Two Men, Winkfield and Stump, Took Letters from Archbold Files and Sold Them, According to " Senator's Statement. Washington, Dec, 18. Former Unit ed States Senator J. B. Foraker today produced a statement before the Sen ate Campaign Expenditures Investi gating Committee, prepared by Gil christ Stewart, purporting to be based on a description by W. W. Winkfield, of how Winkfield and Charles Stump took the "Archbold letters" from the Standard Oil offices and sold them to a representative of Wiliam R. Hearst. "Mr. Hearst said yesterday that he did not know how the letters were procured' declared the former Sena tor. "Such a preposterous statement as that you might tell to the marines. but to no one else." Mr. Foraker said Stewart In 1908 sent him a newspaper clipping in which W. A. Ullman, "attorney for C. P. Taft", was reported to have consult ed with Mr. Hearst about the letters before, they were published, and sug gested that Ullman, Mr. Taft and John T. Cronin, the latter formerly connect ed politically with Mr. . Hearst, be called as witnesses'. Mr. Foraker declared that about a week ago he had Mr,. Stewart go to Chicago, where Winkfield was working as a waiter, and ascertain what he knew. , Upon the interview, he said, Stewart had based . his report. What that report contained Mr. Foraker . pro-: ceeded. to . detail, -declaring that he. did not Avouch ;;.fpj; its accuracy. : He added, thathommittee couid saU -Wlaldl.3ft6jii ment presented; Winkfield and Stump took -some letters, from the Archbold files and wrote a letter to the New York American making an offer of sale and the next day called up- They insisted upon talking to Mr. Hearst, but were contented to meet a "repre sentative". They went the next day to the private' editorial office of the New York American, where a man named Eldridge talked to them. They were told that Mr. Hearst stated they were performing a great public duty. They talked- as to the price with El dridge, wanting f 10,000, but getting promise of only $5,000. The next day they delivered the letters to El dridge to be photographed and receiv ed 50 $100 bills. The statement declared that other letters were wanted and that Wink field and Stump were given a list of 200 Senators, Congressmen, judges and Governors, with the assurances that letters 'from them to Archbold would be paid for well. For one batch of such letters they claimed to have received $3,000 and for another $4,000. For the Penrose, Hanna and Foraker letters, the statement said, Eldridge paid them $Z,000. "Evidently we were the fat cattle," remarked Mr. Foraker. In all, the statement continued, $34,000 was paid to the two men. For two signatures of Mr. Archbold, standing alone, they claimed they were paid $500. The statement said the signatures were re quested of the two men and that they procured them by having Mr. Arch bold write his name in an album. Both Winkfield and Stump were em ployed in Mr. Afchbold's office at the time the letters disappeared. Wink field, a negro, is a son of Mr. Arch-, hold's butler. When Senator Foraker concluded his testimony the committee adjourn ed indefinitely without deciding wheth er to call the witnesses Mr. Foraker suggested. Foraker read to the committee from a prepared statement a resume of the report Stewart had made to him of his visit to Winkfield. Mr. Foraker said that while he did not vouch for its accuracy, he suggested that Stew art be called to tell the story first hand. The former Senator's state ment first detailed the preliminary ne gotiations for the sale of the letters, as reported by Stewart. The princi pal portion giving the details of the alleged transaction aftef that point. as to the purchase of a number of let ters was as follows: ''They finally after about one-half hour's parley compromised at $5,000. Winkfield and Stump then promised to bring the letters up the next even ing. The next afternoon Stump and Winkfield took the letters out one by one from the files. They then wrap ped up two copying books in some newspapers, put the whole in a large box, such as tailors deliver suits in, and came out with it when Mr. Arch bold had gone home. They took it- Immediately to the "Little Savoy", left it with the proprietor and return ed to the office; later after the office closed, secured it, and Stump carried the letters and the books to' Mr. El dridge.. J ' "Upon his entrance on this occa sion everybody seemed expecting him and he was ushered into a larger pri yate office. - "Mr. Eldridge took thenr and was (Continued on Page EighL) Hi' lSv.. 't.f' ' Hrst National Bank, New York (Continued on Page Eight.) t t -l-M-H"!' ' T

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