4 .. . !
RALEIGH, JANUAR I'2G, 1809.
- -". , ' - ' ' ' !s precious jewel.
'IbLi&Hto xviav Thvbsdt, t JokksI Mid Golconda.
Richer than all the mines of Peru I clc t No tax or duty tlm'J Lid on article ex
-TTLbLi&Hto xviav i HVRpT, t josmi Mia uoiconua. ' iiute hat-iported wuh tt, m ported from any state. Nrf Tfcrcnce shall he i iT
ft HtsDihsoK, at TBBrrrraD of itetcb-i though tt was ccramoo cust.uh a thoughtless 1 en by jldt rectilaticwi'' of commerce or revenue, to
yiUE-STaEr, KKAm Casso's COiii-icjiiKlii:crtrKe,mthedcadc4theiiight,ixutKlcrte!the porta 6f one state over those of another nor
iiouiRS ri a a hum, rit haw i tuvcr 01 mo .aecring pinions oi our pagie, out under I iuu ve&acia douiki to or Hum onoaute.be Wired
tvoLK Far as iu ca.nr. i uie moruu snaae ot we oat s wing, we urreiKlcred I to enter, clear, or par duties in another. In thia
this nch deposit.. It ia gone; ' And we have nothing j cUuae of the constitution, the people restrict the ge
rise v uoiunn to otir Daca.atine looistooi ot the
.: ' T i ' . ... :
VEAKLT IK ADVAKCt
. :Vil6usi OF REPRESENTATIVE J
(a ll Resolution to ralic, krtn, and equip Fifty Thousand
, . .vcuuniccr, to ttpe lor uie term oi iwo years.
oneernino the rermnncnrr of the : embarpn. a
Vut which wire-drawing ingenuity haa been exer-
eisca, pus x nssen, uiai so as routes u me pow
era of this Iloue. the emhartty is j- ttermanenf
"That control tww rnmnurf:'i. vhirh thAmiihillnn
las rested in us, we have transfered to the.; Eiccu
, commerce again, or whether we shall ever have a-
jijr power in its , regulation, , depends not upon the
wili of this House, but upon, the will of the Presi
dent, and twelve members ; of the Senate.'The
1 manner in which the powers vested in thia branch
of the legislature has hem e.xe.rdiw.A. I hesitat ruit
Ito declare a flagrant abuse of those power' and a l
; elation of the most acknowledged safeguards of civ!
liberty. ' . . . ; , - :- V t
. Sir, what is the relation in which this House,' in
the eve of the mtitiilinn. ttnn tn thn ' Ttnn!n ?
' ;ls it not composed of tocd, emanating froiBi ; die
. mass of the, community . Are not- our interests
peculiarly identified with'; theirs I Is not: this
the place m; which the peqle. have alright
Naturally . to. look for the Btrongest struggle for our
eonstisutionul privileges, and the last surrender of
, mem unconuiuonauy to -f me ivxecuuve i. i not
the power to regulate commerce one of the most
- iciDortant of all the trusts retxnird In h tti tw.
pie ? ,;Yet how have we exercised this most intefr
, vjunj powers -; vny, air, we nave -so exercised
it aa not only to annihilate eonimertefor . the firecntt
, hut to at that w tan never t forcqflcr, have any com-
purteto regiuate, wnMthe Fretidmtand twelve Se
vatort fienrnLecTnen when pressed upon the
vk constitutional pomt Resulting Trom tlie permanent
"nature of this emlxjrtro, rencl it as the Ventleman
ftomVirgihia (Mr.fcppes) tUd juBt now, by abroad
denial. Jt ia not permanent,'' aay theyl It was
never intended to be permanent.? i Yet it haa ve
' ty , feature of permanency. It is impossible for
icnua iu giBn nivix; uiuimucu uurauon. , VVUIJ
t - respect to intentions, the President and Senate have
ritrht to sneak on that Rnhiei-t '' Tlnhnv nnw.
i, o . J j - - "
. er to permit commerce again to be prosecuted, or
to continue its prohibition,-' But what ritrht have we
a talk W this manner f PknowJ that we every1 day
1 ' amuse ourselves, in making Bome law about com-
mcrce. Sir, this is permitted. It is a part of
- me aeiusion py wnicn we pracuce upon the people,
and perhaps upon Ourselvea. ; While engaged ii
debate,' we feel as if the power to Veeulate ', com-
J merce waa yet in this House; But put this matter
v to the test. Pass a law unanimtiusly tomorrow re-
peaiing tne emnargo. - utt two thirds , ot the ; 5e
.' nate concur. ; Let the President and twelve ' men
determine not to repeal I askf is there . any pow
r in tcis nouse, to prevent tnem troiri . continuing
- this embargo forever l.lTht i fact' via " undeniable.
' . lt the President acJ twelvemen ohstinatelv M oer-
- Matin adherance to tliis rneaiure, and !in'; spite of
-, the IntenUons of this House, tha people ean alone
hgain obtain their commerce,; by a revolution. : It
. follows from what I have stated,' that those may
well enough talk about what they intend, who have
, the power of fulfiling their intentions. - But on that
subject, it becomes the members of Uu House to
oe aiicni, since tnat power wtucn we ouce possess
ed, has by our own act departed. ' So far s this
House 'can ever herealter enioy- the opportunity "of
again regulating commerce tt . depends notr r iipon
the gift it received from the people,' but'.-' upon the
' restoration to .usoftliat power, which tMe people
Kaying intrusted to bur care, we have yithont' Jimif
tationtrahsfcred.to the Kxecutive; .
Execuuvc, the people s patrimony. Sirj I know
the answer which wilL and it la the onlv nn which
can be given. There is no fear of an : improper
use of this power by the Preaident and benatc.
There is no danger in trusting thia most excellent
man.? " Why air, thia is the' very slave's gibberish.
What other reason could the cross legged Turk,
or the cringing Parskn give for that implicit confi
dence they yield to their sovereigns, except thajl it
is impossible they should abuse their power. -"
j ne suite oi tnings i mention floes not terminate
In mere verbal precision or constructive distinctions.
TJie very continuance of the measure, hVin my
opiinon, its root, in the situation, which result from
this, as I deem it, . abuse of our constitution;! pbw
era. Does anv man believe that if the emharo-o hod
been originally Dmited, r that a . .bill continuing iti
couia now oe passed through all the branches t I
know that o-rntlmrv. whn. nrifrTiat)'rt tnn 1.5o
O 1 ' O v. t.l.w
embsa'go, wul will probably .fou the enforcement of
tion to it. as a reajwm for farttior rlKomiu- '' a Ti U
a measure of the executive say they." Suppose"
law jiouse snouia pass a taw repealing it, Miould
he netrative. What effect would result but In shew
distracted councils ; . In the present' situation ' of
' . J wvwmiK f. tVUVWIUIVIH UlKHIUlillJt
1 . . I t . . . . . . '
a imow mat, suostanuauy , sucb arguments bate been
aiflafMB)t. vf.. i - i -k. V'J -. '. . ,. i.f.. Jt it ; .'! J kC' 5t .-'
; Men willing to take off the embargo, vet pol wij-
lillff to counteract the avstm of thir. Pi!Unt. wr re
necessitated to adnnt anr h rpasrtnini at- thia. Tf
was unavoidable wbn they came to reflect 'upon
to the reneal of thU law. i il'i; ';ir;v
fin thlanart of hi anAtrh Mr.O. raa Trnt titni.
rnllArt tn niv4l. t I.. .... KT:trl... .
wiu v ii.vwintwii-iir some iwrcasung renec
tionji on the maiontr. and bv others for finenkiriii' rr
7 . ' o -
noose. jyir. ptvce.-ff.-.v.-.7-i:i;:.;4Y.
i v The; reason t ? ant opposed .'to the solution ii;
that the force nronosed to be raised la.' in imv rei!.
nion, intended, not to meet a foreign enemy', but to
enjoce tne embargo laws, isow is Knot t fife most
J- ' - T-.W " " "P w W g-IUIMIM U.W
adoption of such a' resolution, to prove thatibe jpowi
Scend tlie. lirrata. f.the rnhwifiitirtH. urut thel ihou.
laws nroniRl. iIhn to K. mfrM1. w "ntvrn vir.li.
tUa TT... T ,:.t. if. .it ...
w wiBq a aiMut. uaui myscu m uc Biaicinciu una
eiucidation of a single position. A And the argument
i sjiau oner will fe only in outline-. ;I win not enter
into the. wide field, which the' e-reatrvrrf Af thn rinfi.
tion haturally opens. - I know that as soon as my poi
VUUCUH.II UtUUUllg piCTCUl
measure will be ready to exclaim, kiss? small ob-
: : ... - . . . ....,
jewwuf jju. i.; warn genuemen tnat small as it
mayl appear them if the principle receive the
umuuii m tne neouie ana tne aunnorr m h istatA
Legislature s, there is an eiid of thia ditnirtlv"ai.
neral power over commerce, granted to Congr?.
7V exhort frvm c state t 'o tirrfermre tfih
V WV" " S) '
o" dm rac over those of another i to xrW W
lo or from one ttate in another, tKot one Woid 'of
reatneuon ot tne powers oi ongress touching that
great portion of commerce betnern fiorti and fiortt
tjthe tome ttate. Now can any thing be more con
elusive, that the general power or regulating com
merce did not. In the oduuod of the beonla. ru-UA
the right to regulate commerce between ports and
L-i J .. s . . a . .at f . . . .
pons ot uie same state, man wis lact, txiat they have
not thought it necessary even to enumerate it among
th ' restrictions f If it were bcluded in the gttm
of tiie general power, can a reason be shewn why it
ras, not, as well as the others, included within these
restrictions I That it is' not piwided for umimg
these restrictions, Is perfect conviction, to my mind,
uok n was never inciuaea in tne general power; , - A
Contrarv doctrine leads to thia mnnsinoiii uirwlnv.
that. Congress, which, id consequence of these con
ence to the norts ot one state over those h'tnni?ir
state, nor obhge Vessels to cnter clear, or pay du-
lm V. .l I . r ... . ' 'er. .
Mt " uviurnj vj ut iiuut uic yw& OI one State Ul
anoner yetthat it may. grant preferences to the
ports, of one state. over ports in the same' suite, and
may oblige vessels to enter, 'clear' and pay duties,
State. V:This enormous consAntirnr-e ia ini.vnnKI
The bnclusiont'thereforei to my mind, is perfectly
dear, that the reason why the people did not restrict
the abuse of this species of power was, that the pow
er itself was not granted id Congress; .V-h 'J;?
ahall ' atafe onry .one other corroborative : argu
trient,' drawn from another pail of the constitution.
By the second clause of the tenth section and first
article, it is provided, that nO state sldaU, without
the consent f Congress, lay any imposts of duties
on imports or exports,5 except what may be abso
lutely necessary for executing its.'inspcction laws,"
kw uiur viio uiyiuon oe Huiqinea - mat,
in conjscrioence of this' neatrictian. tli hwliviitin.l
states are prohibited frim toying trohdt dutitk on
article flatting front tort to fiort, totthin their t ate
SmiufCan the states lay no toll upon ferries acores
h5p !ir nAhiv nnnn o.Ti nl..:ni. .m.tul J
their rivers erV.ws their bays i'- May not the state
v. o wi uujjuae '-a auiy upon vessels going
from. Hudson er Allwnv to New Vm-V f- Vot. if u
be. true that the general power Of regulating com
WijkW-A dnwt.n. .1. ......... ! . .1. . r
u.Vv , M'- oujiva) uiviuues uio power oi re-
gulating commerce between ports and ports of the
same state, all this great branch of state prerogative
waoiuiciy gone; irom. tne individual states. "A
eonstruction of the constitution, in which, if maHfu.fl
hy the Jwiophvand the jegwjahires of the states, in
aii , consequences, tnev never can acouiesc
The lancruaee of this clause is. in Wrirt rJnnnnnnnro
with that construction of the constitution fot which 1
t ntohtend. It strongly and. conclusively,; to my 1
inind, ifflblies tha (he generar power' does noi', in-
ClUCe tho txiwer'to ren-iil:it rrTViTn.rr
potts and norts of th am taf tk imnnm i
of this clause is, no ttate thaH lay any imfnttt or
m impurit or export r t nese terms im
or vtd( .wW''cfduslv6BppropruB to
duties wpon goods patting into a ttate of patting m
y a viftey ana can never be, made, by any tar con
struction, ta extend, to riutie
toholly vrithi the Smith oj a ttate. r On goods in this
Biiuuuwi, uiai in, on goocia passing between ports
and port of the same .state, the' inOmdual states
have, notwithstanding this restriction in the constitu"
tion, the power tolayj transit. mmesf' Of! tonse
iuenee, the regulation of this branch of trade is hot
included in the errant to ConpTess. of fhWn.rnl
powerover commerce mmohg the states.",' -ft a '
i qis; is tne pouit pt view which I take in this
f,, ' Once, this House possessed the power to regulate
.-- .v Biniiiaiu iuc tousuvuuou, pernaps uus
- asmost highly prized by thct people. It was tru
' ( y the apple of their eye. To their concert for it,
tne Constitution mnia it v!0. 'rT1,...
brought tius the object ot their choice aSTcttions,-
' tender parent would deliver tlie hope of his. decliJ
t Jiinj years, with a trembling solicitude to its select-
' d guardians. ' And how havo we conducted in Xhit
; - aacred trust ? .Why, delivered U oyer to the care of
1 v twelve .dry nurses, concerning whoa tempers we
jfi ' fcnow nothing 1 for whose intention! we cantiot
" C ifk ' tn wll' fpr an7 thn5 we kno! way 'some
' 1 ' lhcm Rave an interest in destroying hV;( , - ',
r, Ves, sir, the people d'd intrust us with that great
powertlie .regulation .0 1 commerce. V: It was their
The position. I take, and which T mwin 'tn'moiii.
taiti, is, that thotf provmont of ?A embargo "tuvti
fiortt and porta the tame ttate tare grott imlationt
v. w T7 o- ine ttatet, ana palpable rraht cffiov-
er beyond the Bmitt of the tontiitutuni Mask the at
tention of the House to a very short atgtimeht u pon
this iubject.f I present it not by wy bf eriminatiori,
but worthy of iu consideration and candid examina
tion. ; feel, no - passions on the question VJf any
have been exhibited bv tnr-i thv.
flame enkindled by . the gentleman from Virginia
(MM Eppes ?&&t?j&iw$ r $?, r mtimft.
The powers granted to (Jongress iti iriation'fo
commerce,41 aroontaineo in Ji 1hth aenihh nf
th first article of the Cottstkutiobiln tnese words t ntter: of tin limns of the1 constitution.' ' On this
The Congress shall hate poer to regulate com- tjfota) ll vis, that:! asserted that the rights Of the
merce? witfe. foreign-nations, aftfJ ijwwg- the teveral stated have been invaded in your embargo hws, and
--7 " wi wro Ainuuu u mca; 1 no punicuiar 1 . "au jpcu a pmer noi given
power to which I object, as Mng awumedi if grant-1 ' ft D,f the constittition. ?r And so ja.r as the liberties
ed At nil. 14 fiirituirvoil .ltlii fK- i.i i.i-.j l ht 'this nennln aiw tnrunlAr l.v. .1..
, A. .1 ...... . M. . v ..... . . ... 1 L 1 1. . ''.. . . -
ummg ue teverai ttatet' w rclerence to which I
ask tins questioncah the grant of a powV'toi4
structio be- made to: include a power to regulate
irammerce mttm a ttate' nis a simple question.
The. strength and certainty of the bonclusion results
from its, simplicity! ; Theref is "no need of any re.
fined argument to arrive at conviction.;" It is a plain
appcaj j to," the common , sense of the" people,' to
that common sense,:1 wltich it most practical sub
jects, is.a much surer guide tWn all the reasoning
of the learned. It is scarce possible there can: be
but one answer to this question; :To bring the sub
ject more directly into the course of the reasonings
of Common tifo, suppose that ten householders who
live in o i neighbourhood, should agree upon a-ibu-nal,
wliicht should possess powers to regulate com
merce ot- intercourse amone theirhoiiMe. rrM bch
an authority, be irly extended to the regulation of
thai int.iMiiM. VttV.U 1 r
mu, mu.iuu ji. w iu iiiciiKicrB oi uic it lunuiies
Within; their .retfiecifo houtttf Under a grant of
power, like this, woi)l4 such a tribunal have a right
toregulate the intercourse between room and room,
within' each dwelling liouse 1 1 it is impos8ible.i
NothWg can be plainer.-, The general government
has no colour for interfering with the interior cOrtii
merce of each Btate f let it be carried - oh y water
or bv land.' t The teiralatioh of the SrotViTnic Kt
tween p6rt and ports of the same state, belMigs $x
clusively to the states, respectively. A' ''' v i !i
I j of the state and nation.a autiioriuesi in their respec
ii J tive orbits,' I hesitate, not to declare the embargo
- iuxmimi uiiiiiiciucui. uiuso iioerue;5. ? v
' iOn aquespn of this'toagnUIMe I cannot condes
cend to enauire: whether, in the mvlv tvr.nn i3r.
any regulations wer? made affecting tliis particular
v. v. w i jimiucv in uireci violation oi tne
tonstitutionj, can have no, binding forced Violations
of the constitutioh, totjehing only a few solitary indi
viduals. Small in amount nr In Wnnv
for a long period, be submitted to without a struggle
of a'murmur."1. Whn tln MttnilAir f.rth. .;,!.
pie begins to affet j whole classes of the community;
the interest of, the naoon claima. a solettin andBatisi
factory .decisiion. The truth is, I can find but a sW
gle attemnl.in all your revenue laws, contrarv to the
constnicuon for wch I contend. Itf the casfi bf
carrymg distilled spirits of imported goods of a spe
c'uied ? amount, from Wt to oort within a .tat. th
roaster, is Lohliged i to- ftiake a manifest aiid take an
oaui mat uie twiuea, have been paid.! '..The' infringe
meht of the constitution- Wan.' in fhU inctnticaV nri4 ti
Us immediate consequences 'sb trifling that it has
passed without notice, and been submitted to with
out k question ? But, surely, on the silent iicquiesi
,v"vu v ui nutn h practise aa xnis, can ne
ver be t built thefabricr of so ehormbua a poWer ai
vouf elmbarpo law
; Gentlemen say the embargo is brought into view
on nil occasions.-. ;,Certainly sir, ;it -ii Connectea
with almost nil national question's. I have no objec-
Ejnned to what Ubc t?.cy are tu le n;-; .'.cJ. l.t
rrte only ur.dcrsnd ti.e st.ten tw.-rrseii. Ii it
UaKicd to repeal the tharRH wul to war f Oi"
ar incae men only inteniitd to cnrcc i; ? . If :1 i
former, I have no objection to 'any tqm;;c tinnv.
If tlieUncr, I nin ,n dirrct fimufitv'to '. tlJi tmil '
tion. 'Detming tlie embargo Lwa uncoiiMiiuti'inu!,
and powers', vested Iu tlie Executive, w 1.1th u- t
never to have posd out of tlie ponscssi'in vl
House, I will never acquiesce, h "atigmeuiiii!;
the military, until I am satisfied that the ay item U
not to support by iistill farther the violuuoiis of tbit
constitution, - , ',. ' ,. . ,, : ; ,
.Mr, Macon said that he. Was opposed to Uus re
solution in its present form. He riid not know th-t
tnen might not be necessary, but hh wished tLemi.
If regular troops, or of whatever kiiuL to be distin
guished hy their proper name. , He moved to strike:
thousand " n as to leave the resoluUo:!,'
blank. . '.-".?'.. , ''ia-.'' "
1- i .
. Negatived 4T to 4T. 'The spcaker'declaredhilA
self in the hrjtive. , . .'
," Mft Macon alsomovcd to 'strike out two tho " ,
trrnt of the service for which the troops were to b '
ratsed..'' Carried tp 9j. :' '-. - V ; ' ' " "
,' The question on the resolution was then decllci ! '
by yeas end hoys-yeas T6 hays 34.' ' ' ' V
SKETCH OF TBS DEBITS 1 1 ' , . ;
IX .THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES", ,
.The amendmehts of the Senate to the bill sent -from
the House for employing au additional number ' '"
of seamen were , taken up. . The amendmets pro;" ; ,
armed vesseSs"of the U. S. , ' . , : .
Mr. G. W. Campbell expressed a hope tliat ths S f;
House 'would disagree , to the amendments.' . Tho '
t-. SL: 1 t . ' a a aa a. V
rresiuent was aireaay sutnorisea by Uie law to lit out " ;
these vessels, whenever in his opmibn the public serf 1 i ,
yice should require h'ahdUhe txpence which t r ;
would attend Uietn was a sulhcicut argument against . '
iti if nb urgent' occasion existed, ifor their service; l
l.a. I .1 j t ; . . .. ' ...
wmenne penevca oia not. 5; r.vf tY?W-
f Mr.fcTOBT entcnaincd a verV diflercnt onin!on! ' '
from that of the gentleman from Tennesee.5 In case'": "'.:.'- '-
of war there must be some sliips of war of one kind 'J., - ' v S V
or cther i and ft would take sii months at least to :'. ': '
prepare all emr .sHpsfot scrvlcie,jsAt present they: ' j v ' '
were rotting in the docks.' If h wire never intended f
to use them, it would be better to bum them at once ' ,y ,
than to suffer them to remain ia their present situa- T':'-r--" ''"
uwi. ' iic oeiieveu u qui at sea mey mignt oe usctut
and rould be well emploved.''. Whv keen th'eni trr
at this place, whence they could1 hot get out of tho '
river perhaps in three weeks or a month ? ' He be- '
lieved that a naval force would form tne most efiec-J
tual lirotecUOii to our seaports that could be devised.
rartot our mue navy was sunercd to rot in tlio .
docks, and the other part was scarcely able to keep ?
fKa riripanl ' J"rMiM nnl a iiinn-1. r.r.i rw. fnnmt. k.n.Ato i.-
..vw . an. w.v.tia ichiij LI 1
almost any of our harbors now and batter down our ; -
towns : Could not even a sinp-le "m hont iwn '
some of them t Mr, Stoty said Ke. could not con t . ' -ceiye
why .' gentlemen should wish to paralize tlie.'- - ' i ., -strength'
of, the nation- by keepihe back ur haval ' :? .'f ". "
force, and now in particular when mahy pf our hai -? f
uts Bcuiicu uiu no Yaa wwiy IU say, mul ITOm, CIS ,:: , - A .' ." ,.,
own - knowledge he spoke it) were starving ki our ' ;
ports. Mr."Story enumerated some of the advantages Jaf; (
which this country possessed initiation to nayaiforce. ;
For, eteTy ship which we employed on out coasts, ho, ,
said any foreign nation must incur a double expenc6 rg?j?: U :
to' be able to tbpewitiv us.'Thd ' trutiv Was, that "or.? :J:-j
centlmcn well Versed ui the subiect had calculated . v-: - H ; .. -
that it would require for .a fltet competent 'to re.' ;
aist! f such" Bjiiavali forcei as-the"; United 'Stafei.r.'SII-'.-r
might without . diflkulty provide, four br five hun-'","'. ) v
dred transport ships to supply ;.them with, provisions, K;' ;
mc expencc oi wnicn aionewouia pe lonmattbie, as
fc-ctcivVaiimeiii, to GJSAianv.He' wished ittwVI '
be shewn.; however sjnallour naval ibrce,t .
Trtfr im1a.tnf!.lilalt-u.f. nnrf.KMt lh. j.KiithIM. .VTt! : . ., -
ty' of our seahieil.' fV 1 .; f '''l-f ';. :,
"Cwr. Macon was bbposed tb the amended Bill oelSv-''
ca.us4 it appropriated more tiiah the Delartinent ask V
l,"ahd would be attcudedjfrith the expence of 5 or "
millions. . !: . '5 ''"'Mwf'WJ v--t '.:r Vt-.,S '?''' '-v-'"' .
Atr . Holland Wnai innnne n itl V.' f tf..! '- : ti- :'"
. " - 11'" "7' W. fclit A Ll. V
-wim wwa wuiy to oe coerceq uirougn uie. north- : i .
ert Colonies".; . VV ff tJ&tin . ;,.Xt ';'
'.:Mr..Tro.up;adyocatedtKe buttuitr bur bresetifnai '1 ; -'-"i V.-'
u larvunr aupport o tins position, n strong argu-1 " "Liu.iuiijuesiions. -.--1 nave nooujec
mcnt results from the ninth section of the first arti- lioa !yoUn'B fdf fifty thousand men, if I can bo in-
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val force into ; serykeTv He stated the f case 1 of ; $
Lieut Folef, with a small TMseLhiaV.kndino. Sal-fS
vannh,' Particulars mehtfoned' under the head of ' "
Domestic News page 43 of this papcrj Shall, 'T'f. a -''
we," said Mr. T., submit, tamely submit to the y'
insolence of every British coommissiohed puppV, 'n
whv wiwMci w utwii. u., i vvo are tola oi cxpcnce : -Eeohoiriy
is a good thing In "time of peace, but if v $.1 J
this contracted; spirit Of economy prevails in tt.'sSV-) , '-
councdsj If we are forced into a war, so help me , -." -''' '"' s
God, J would rather at ohceimely1 submit our ho
notir and indepertderice; .thafl maihtab them in tbi:;:'C,v- ' ' (
Economical way?,VfV'vfT':,t''W:' ,v'"s. ''.- ;-::'W':.;-- '
7 ' Mr. H, R. Williams said itw nfs'misfo'rtune to t- ; .
differ with centicmen rkirinil alii fiAintd on th enTI
ject of ;t th6.yavy.:IIev was opposed to it from .
sttfnt Ito stern t . and , gentlemen ; who aUempt-! i'V v ': '
ed to argue inlavour ofitas a mauerof hecessity, t i i! ; " '
involved ftemselvcs 1h Jabsiirdltics, ': thef ,'Weris pot u"-""'
aware of. HW hen money had been appropiated for '4 k,A
fortifications, there had been no intimation that It A pi" V
would bfc necessary to prop them up with naval 'C .
foiteJ If our towns'could hot be' defended by fohi-" 'lZ -;-'-ficatiops
he asked, would ten frigates defend them - i,' v '
The gCntiemah' frora M '"p
had even gone so fur as ' 10 say that a, smgle-guni fyZr& f
boat could sweep one half of our harbours;' If a sinlo V- V.'' -
kuiwiwhiuiu iiuw aweep most 01 our iiarootinu ; -:
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Mr,' Williams said he thould lik , to know what v v? -cinch"
hundred attd' thirty Vessels of vraT Could dti'K.iK
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