1 . ,
4C tiii: staiv ; .
-,, railM,ed.web.y ,.'
V ELL'fc IWUENCE.
i-H three aWUra aooiav--e s
N- to.- l M u pari
' it . """I ejpMeooiiMir,l oi l
1 (Veoty-ai svMa f r !
V JIMtmlinweawavwrjw.i.. .
i , . j,f 1 "' ' '"'
- - FrcesJdy Western Carolinian.
V 'XirtlOSO, and ti GRAND JURY.
l . g,, of the. werabers rof Wcress
Vn embarked en the - forlorn Wipe,"
: , th night of the H:h of February
? p, tjtrtmely anxious to juidUy. their
, ' ofldt ike" cmtitttnW.-,'Thj
it not vonttt wit- sending the caucus
KGnnifwn to every third roanjn their
' respective districts, out mast write long
' letters t the Grind Juries of the seve
nl counties, by' way of procuring prt
:.mtoientM in faot of Mr.-Crawford
Ve regret to find lhat Mr, Long, the
, represVnktive from,; this district, .i
playing the nie gamev i He ha nude
' I amort vigorous effirt at the Grand .'oxy
' 'of Rmww The members of that Jury,
' however, were: not eplt plain, honest
. iarmersi but were intelligent,' indepen
dent men. They- read Jus, letter with
rttt$nti6ri! and, in a'spirihoj becoming
f rte unanimously returned hint an
- answer, which'' U marked . with good
' m ' jense and canduf a copypf which we
:i lave obtained fit publication & which,
with". Mr. Lbng'l'c.ttfer,;w be foUad
,r -below. '-Z': 's's, ' '
MrLons. iii the course of Ms epislle
to. the Graud Jary, Iiaconde8c?aded to J
' ' notice us and our lalxirg, ,j. were we so
V ikpused, wf could tet'orun the gentle
s ' : iniiH in 'a mahnpr that 1 might occasion
.y oiore pneasiness thun'even tbfr. effusions
'i al " A voten" Jut,we' nave io Wish
; , either to perplex Mr, 'Long, or . to bring
mm into notice, oj too reai an tuteu
,v 'rion 'of -thia.md; it might draw-him
from hi " course in pongiefes," that he
eaks of. 'i 'We will, btwever, remark,
tnat of alt persons lie sliould be tlie tast
5 ( toaicU9eother9 iAr giving only oni
J ' tyk f: jttwimr -jWhat lias' u"i
actions as tne;f judgments uictate; put
ire have, not been so fortunate as to hear
f his doiiiff much else tban coin into
the little minority taucnS-fiUing the
Mails with thei caucus addres -fianlt-
3ng handreds of the V VVasTiington City
(TEcOty tXU (fbt or. . ,! 1
(cir we cr txirt ta be wrcatfi by i
One to c(i ffrt to ioquirc into tlx true
)y the eaiHtMl rr,rf Canrwa. Tetadaw
rtU m it if, we io not thuk k vrWwli on
th cnrntmy. Kr ttm uicptin, with
wofrxw, tkwOvcrwdcUanriLtM'! vuck
Mt aTt ptTiW-tp would wieeccd a rrTf.
tiuitiow f th Crerki arathcr 4o protect! rivl oftb tuS, wrw of rvnin that jo.
South i America, oter all circuitxtiuoc. ;dcloua thereof vouU ot only tco.1
Thete, ka wr pkiion. wrem tk trrtlliii I tw lWkK the prreal pecuniary UtreMre
Gatettt;" aod sending outr his ' own
t pwllea, in favor of the caucus noinina
, tion. Cast tlx? beam ou t of thine own
eTe, and then, girTYour optics will be
ia a fitter c6mlitioB to discover" the mote
ia.mme .
out of oar to meddle with tJbe huainet, f
ontflri. I think we at urtucy 4oig enoab
for the wortdi we n&iirU'ji the indrpcifcVnce
of twr ou eountrrt we Ia te other to cotac
utd tht. with ua.' whore tbeir Krea, Cberty
and pre pei tj will ke protedrdt but we ought
not to act ourselves up u the champione of
tke world, to fight tle battle jr. others, and
thereby codiner pur own poet and harnto.
nv. laoee two propoaitiona arc. bowever.
laid ob the tabic at preeeot. where I hope
the wiaWetfiain. . Wr ltate two'Othe mea
im, before Congreaa, not Wr' import ,
and oerliaoe Booro ruiMuf In their itaiure,
(particularly M rearda awr tertian of ou
Wr) if adopted, a ia beneeed titer ill be.
They are nrwnffly adrocated by all the Pre
idential candidate, except Crawford: I meao
the (rnU Tteni of Internal Impror.menu,
tntl the tans', u now proposed; both of which
art.not only inexpedient, but wotild be ane
nual in their operation, and eonaequentlv un-
jucti beatdea, would bear particularly hard on
N. Ca. Tne nrtt of tuoae meaauPea would be
attended with ant etiormoua expense the
secoiid deprive ua of the rerenue now 'te
rived from imported rood; ao that between
the .two wo alkould, instead of rettinif out of
ruebt (a we may cm the prtm4 y .',) 1
fear it would not be long before, we apoulu
have to pay a direct tt to nicti the ordinary
expenses of gen'U tovm't1 ' -'
There ia comlderable pe uktion hc
about the next president: w certain calcula
tion can yet be madet but I believe' there' t
but little doubt that it will be either Crawford
or, Adartis:" but considerable fears are enter
tained that the election will hot be made by
tho people, but will go to the house of repre.
aenUtivesi that is evidently tlTe" vib of many,
seeing that their favorite canauiaic stunds no
dumcev before the people yet they "are Very
clamorous about the people' tickeVin ao ae
place. ' liut I hope the people, wiu tuke up
the subject, and decide for themselves. ' -"
.1 think it does not requfre a great deal of
sagacity w aisogTtr wiw n m wisnea
th4 people to liave"" the electmp of the "r
sident,and who t is that wishes ihe election
to o to Congrea where one man rVoio
some of the states, would have more we' (flit
in that important, election Jtnan thirty trom
other parte of the union. Does this soem
like equality does it neejti like consultini the
people? ia it what the people wish?
. I lmnninft not! " fulhouA ia no Ion rer a can
didate: he has Btrutk his flair (as it ii raid and
believed?, to Gen. Jackson, on condition Jack
son's friends wniud support Uira to the Vice.
Presidency; and I unde' stand is endeavoring,
to transfer hi friends throughout the union
accordingly. That Mr. Calhoun is taki gany
ostensible-part in this, I do' not say: but that
it meets his approbation, there is no douhjt
wiih me'.- lhope this people of North Caro
lina wi'l not submit to he bartTa'ned away at
the Will of 4 few aspirinypartiian(;.!There
tbo flMMe of firesentativrat and tw i.ope4 . of Prpreeatjrtie.-.''r, Tiv' " r
4, woAt ftot bo.porpooci. n ia C e-j ee.1 in tbe views of rtCe . . o!
aoort to pctfiooe tbev, wbrw 4 id thai! rrula, Mr. titrn,.,) 1 t v- - Js r W .
of the rorde. but tbat it would enhaneo tbo
fwveou of trovernsnenC d ottenirUicn the
fabrio of Mtiooalhvtependenrc, la llua
nave tbe eoncidrc or mr own lavorte
Socretary op nion, wk ch we canst express
bettor thaa by quoting brs own wonla. To-wvda-
tke rloae of Ka Uat.snnoat report,
after detailiojr the situation of Treasury, be
aarat If h be deen.ed sxlvisaW to rive in
creased extension or activity to te nary, cm '
to an! ui obiects of internal knprovemeut, at
ia beneved that such additional means aa may
bo required, may be obtained by a judic'tu
rrvitltn tftht TaHf. ftuch a measure was
recommended in t it laat annual report, witW
a view both to the increase of toe revaoue;
and the simplification of its oUction and
forher reflection and experience have tended
to strengthen the opinion then entertained,
that its operation, without beinr onenxis to
the community, would be advantageous to the
we cannot rtkir one raat io4t lo be aJipted.
W s shall, tbeo, km dow our dity to our
eont;tsAa, aa nuthlU wtea. Bat, now. wc '
aro about to pea pone tWent, ot the very ,
thrsabold.- If there ever waa-o tisao when
tw sobjoFf covkl be met gravrhr,, it is the
preseAt. What was the condition of M
country, at 0ew of the dtlKculty in the e
loction of JetTroa and Birr1 . Ureal anxiety
was spread from one end of the eountr to
Uto other. Too House of Rpreaeudct
as voting thirty times, without coming to a
decMHn-tno uvKt serious alarni pervaded
the country. An 1 yet, with this knowledx
before ua, we are not wil.inc; to snake prori-
smi aeinat aia,,Ijir orrjtrrcicc.; Tbere was
the great parties ex sting at that time. ' One
was aecuaea or loodnehS for tbo Bnt.ahj Ui
other, for tbo Fench,- Tber. Is no deposi
tion nf that kind now. ' VTs have peace, and
we have plenty to eat;, and. thank UeaveOv
the TaruTBiU has not . yet passed. Some
think tnat the amenameni will , produce a
consolidation of the government, and that the
State lines will be loA. But almost all the
'.1 .
ir"V' frow the eorndmt - ece c-f i -grrs
ia the rtvsidti:!! i 'n, i. i k
aar ameivlmerit to iLe Cci -. j-...; on wo.U ha ;
very ohjrt-oimbls which wouWt lae I'.' -f.
ftct of ak'ns; that intert-rence rwr- f - ,
quent ft, said it had been a )pci o'ject
aitk 0m for ntany vearw. to-tfnt aon.a a
roe(f menV to tbo Conautation whitb wipj.t ,
Seowro the electijn of 'bo ProCdeu'. wit hoot
rrotibling Congrfwi wi'b.lt. Hr nljrht r, t
"five to see that dr;ralle object aoconiplithc J, ,
but he hoped the gentlrntan iroca Souih Car
ro'tna would,-
t
As to tho question vf a Conr'',rsJ cau
eus for tho nomination of caml.iUte for .tho
Pres'.deoov. .. Taylor aa'it h never had
a ckwge of foreign partiality, on each side of tny dwot that such a nomination was a clear
revenue, salutary to the commerce, and bene-! States have agreed to it almost all of them
is; no person more willing and' .ready to wo- 'and 'we beBeve taecri to" be infinite!)' above
knowledge the worth and services of Gci.any attempt to batter for the 'suffrages of the
Jackson, tn.nis country's cause; tnantaai, nui iDeor)c. and should nv
be
if 'The"i;olumn, ofop rjaper have al-
i ways bceu open to, decent and respect-
) able fioromifhications, un favor if either
the ranuidHtes;' convfHunicatious in
"jiisaw;slt. Gen.jJack'stm;- Mr.'. Calhoun,
1 and Mr.' Adam, nave appeared in vour
' . wiper and otie or two pieces, written by
VH.y Kn Crawford's friends, werl sent us,
' : 'Vaml published; '4liat inore have, not ap
f :,ljcarl for. Mr. CrawTurd, only proves
, tliat jte has put few friends in this secf
. won ot ther union, who can write tor a
;. , Bewsnnper-wei have fel used uo com-
;, ' Ifiionicatiotl in , favor of M r.v Ciawfori
'?.-'!. It seems the .caucus advocate feel a
i u" Writ of prosctiptioit toWards all twho
'X Hare( iffer' from ' theip ' They nrf ti ot
Tl content with, ging into cjtucus tb die?
V' f tate,.(o the' nation, but they ,wishiudi
tdually to.fl'etaU to their ilistricts.fi U
in this spirit that Mr. Lonz affects to
ivMbe amazed that EVEN in Ms dislri
-. ' thjere should be wiiHe M'ha are so perti-
;'' ' tlirilm aa ii 1 .,t- ri
v x n, w Lfikii iui iiicuiaci vSt iiiu
U ' oppnseVthe caucus eandidalei ::' .''niere
- - n tire hundreds oif jnen in ihis.tstrict, ast
.weH informed as Mr. Long; ancT they
niWouiaacf UDCvvorlhy 'tte'atiicof
ji freemen, Were. they to'$urrcpder theix
' 'y owo opinions, either t to the caucus or
TK?s a1!) pue of tlie cauctts-nikkers. tf''-v
rf .' ' ' ' . k'-' . .. -v vi.".
:'j'f.? wasanwtow.'eitn maScb 29.1824,:
'''lif.'iHtV t&e IfrrJipm Bvidm Supinie Court,
'"'.i'V- ...... " SpringTerdi, 1804. '
VV -'.i1 gs1Wbx; It is MRtifjfia to find that the
;v(. jwninapi state ot our fiscal concerns are
uU eqnalto the tnost sanguine calculations,
v v- mf he seen by the PresidentV AJessage,
well the report of the Secretary pf th
i? Tasurv,. 03rU Crmvford.) h I'rom both ,f
ifa " t appears that on tW first of January
' . lit. there waK a KlimliM nf Hrar nin. million
px i-.v-w. dollars in the-Tieasiiry. ' So much" for
- ; . ' ...-"".,. u juu jieaaei lor ii no jjuiiicr
JJ-t e are' called, sovthax we tan harp a full
-S' Tawyi' kep(."iI-'iin our' valuable jinititU'
M ..'Uoiis gradually increase our Navy, pay our
4$ .t , H. v ma il UCWIIICIUIKf U Wl
tfl t00i Without tSrectlV. taximr th people one
1 -"-y'l n( willipg to bear the epithet
, rlr :' Baical.faction, or any thing else (which
, ! t ' ",b ye by does pot belonj to "roe that my
V emifes please tc? heap upon tne, provided
v 4,--? " conruenuy iau, prove to the satis-
l'V Ct,n my constituents,, that my political
A5V.VIH? Consistent with cir ' interest and
;.-wt ui me nauon; , .te could only be
ficial to the manufactures of the country
. As to tbeochenu; of internal tmproveinent,
which you say i opposed bv Mr. Crawford,
and advocated by all the other Presidential
candidates, but one question snggest itself
to our unaertnanuinga: is re constitutionally
in the power of the genera! government to
appropriate the public money to such purpo
ses? If this; bx. decided in the affirmative,
there aonears to ns no rational doubt. a to
the expediency of such a measure; and here,
too, we aro supported by the authority " t.
Crawford, as already cited, for'jf tlie commtl
u cation between different parts of the coun
tiy.for tht purpdso of, commerce; c. in
times of peace, aiul for. the transportation of
pien and munitions in time ot war, can be ef
fected without imposing burdens upon .the
people, the policy and wisdom of our go
vernment would certainly he demonstrated by
patronizing such imprve:nenfi, the. consti
tutional doubt being remoyad.
. As regals the Greek; who are straggling
in the sacred 'cause of l-berty, and the Re
publicans of South America, who are tlurcat
ehed witli re-subjectitm o the impious tyra
nybf a Spanish ctcspot, we cordially approve
t ie' policy recommended in thedignified and
energetic message of our Venerable President,
to the present congress.. ' ' (. V1' '
Tbe last, though not least, interesting fact
of your letter, only rciains to" ho noticed,
respecting the Presidential candidates. v It
conrtitutes no part of thevlury of this 'jury,
to make eithera new nomination of cartrj-
datcs, or to publish an approval or censure of
tlie tvashiriffton caucus nominatmn. We are
willing that, our feJlow-citixcns should equal
ly 6articipater in an matters or mw nature,
a'nd- We ha no jloMbt -but that thg ' still
smalV voice" orths people of fforth CafroliiSa
will, in due season! be heaftL rJAs. to tiener.il
Jackson and mri Calhoun, we feel that the
'natipn is largely indebted to them for their
htlhistrious services in ' their- country's cause;
have called for the districting system. Mr.
tt. sain, ne wu urn. nenevc inai it wouiu ue-
weoOM of the spirit' of the Cw'.tuVoo,.
flo tkat wti''rt, he bel;evrd, t.i ,'. ments .
eioprini. Jt appsared to hi:ii p-enoa-'s
tertMH f gentlemen to contend, t' it in vna-
klnjr such aijuimmatimv they sctua ri then
private tupariUr. , lr. T. here enured mttj
somo arsraineis to provs. th-vt mr tuber of .
Congress could not meet at the seat of go
vemment and nominate a candidate for tiei '
Presidency, witlvnit making it s pr'c htisi- -a
nes. . 1 ho people wouia o repiri n, sua n. ?
wo-iM produce tiie tanie.etH'Ct as n the .inv
1-
Mr,
1
ttroy the Ooottittnion. '- Ho - had beard toHnatioM was made by the member ia their
much, and so often, of the destruction of the
ConAitution, . that ho bad almost become an
infidel, in rvsnect to it, vVV e have stood a
dition law; and aa alien law, and there is not
much danper but wt may iret along with any
thing else,. . We have had these amendment
repulaHy bronght ' before hs; and now, all at
onee, becani allusions have been mads to a
nothor subject, we cannot look at tho amend
ment ve have-got into a passion, and wt
must give them up. Nearly all tho states
have approved the districting systenv--and
how is it to-. destroy the Constitution' The
liberty of this nation 4 jcs not, nor doe that
of any other,' depend .upon paper. . it must
have a found;itioo in tke hearts of the pen-
pie. Let a, man. (icpeitd upon himself, -and
he is free'.'' If he is dependent on another,
black 6r white, he will not be free. Free-
do: vests . unon our nenendehce or inde
pendence. Tho people had, at first, a great
iread ot uiq I'resiaent ana benatei but tnat
fear has passed away. -o . ; ;i
,yve havve, now, more candidates tor the
Presidency than we ever bad, before. How
are my peoplo to know these1 tnen Why,
When I iro home." they ; wilt: ask me whom I
think tobe tlie best mart; or rather, who will
tytliem the least?; Which; is the same thing,
And, I presume, lite same questions are put
to otner members. ; I am giaa my.coiieague
called for the yeas and ays, on this question,
for I hope the tublect will not be postponed.
In regard. tp caucuses, l Have no eonfessions
to ntake. pav one utO caucuf as hottest-
U Tr'VHw move on in
M W- f " mt we-ahottW, in a few yimM free
the present Course,
tion, our public t.i!hf7 .,. .-iiintW V,
when it come to making a president, I beg
leave J.t pause; and insist upon having a iiioi'-
al man, at least, to preside over tne destinies
of this nation, lam sorry to believe thn,t
there a; soma, persons mm inmydistrict,
that are so ; mdcli opposed to Mrt' Crawford,
that they would support almost any nan in
Opposition to him; for; I do cui.scientjou-.il' be
lieve that it is the true, interest roft, the
Nouthern people, to have Crawford for" our
next President. He is not only capable, but
his views and policy 'ate consistent with our
in'erest,... Reside-sV he is opposedto all those
vain speculations that are calculated t' in
volve nnu. unpovcrisn ne naiion. ouu.e v
Crawford's frie nds met and declared their pre
ference for hip if the friends cf .the otuer
canditlates had have done likewise, it would
have put an end to many contradictory re
ports and statements in newspapers, respect
mgthe number of Jhe1 friends of the diff erent
canditlates: the reason they have hot don so,
is .very evident: fur notwithstandinsf the email
number that met in caucus, Hutaaid nothing
in saying that neither of the other candidates
could have mustered, half the ftumberV We
that did meet, have expressed a. decided pre
ference for Crawford. Our opininons are pub-
ticly kpowh to the world; the-peoplc aie at
liberty to acquiesce with us, -out certainly not
bound to do so.. ' :-A ;
The Western Carolinian, , am intoraied,
say a trreat many tiiinrs ag-ainn tne paucus,
but bus omitted (rivine the' Droceedintn f
that meefing in detail as they were i, 1 am
ly poticed Kt that papr, tnat we readers nave
not a full and correir-statement, tden.ule
them to take ad lWparbar view ot the pi'o
ceediitgs and object.; IJut it' is to be regretted
uiai 1113 tuo vtiuiiuuii iui lc"."l'ws'lu S'!
only ONE SIDE of the questibir, consequent
ly, instead Of being what they snouia oe, ttwo
source of informationA they frequently only
serve to confuse And mklead the unsospect-
ing by fmisrtpresentiition. ' I would there
fore advise'. nil candid meo' to rtawoji , with
themselves 'mini look to facts.'. My" Object is
to have myself and others tintfcratood,. ana
leave the people to decide, as t. know they
are capable of doing, correctly,' v
vvitn au oue aeierence iot jour wwc ui
ere tion. I remain your bpmole scrv't. "? c ..'
';. i'-'-'iQUN L0NG,Jr..f
v Siai TM' Grand Jury of Rowan bsve the
honor to .aoknowWde tbea-ccejjrtof .yo'Hr
letter of the 3 March, accompanying seve
ral mewspapew,- ; and the Address of tne
Washington Ccttt''ri .rv
V With vou". wo fefel gratified by the flour;sh-
ing condition of the Trtasury; but we are' rot
et convinced that tt is tne mux eiucr or riac
wisdom Of tn present secretary oi mat oe-
outmenl. or of his particular adherents in
politics. jAYt hive always yieWed our admM
ranle system, or reyeaur's tn .ton spring oi
tne geatus pi uaanitoiy reareu auu uwureu
- I, ,
efforts of thia kind
made-- n-,N. I -ai-olma, trom:' whatever
source, we trust it wiU. be met by the same
indignant spirit of contempt fcluch was late
ly man rested In Pennsylvania on a similar oc
casion. .- '.-- v'- - - ' ' ,
With you',, we deprecate the practice of
hood-winking ttie people, Whetiier through
the medium of newspapers or tetter, by fexhi-
liitiug s partial pictuye of men and measures,-
" it is mucn to oe rtgrettea, too, tnat it is too
common foriMembcrs of, Congrtjss' td' give
only one side of the question; consequently,
sounce of intbrrnation,) thev frequently only
servo to mislead the? unsuspecthigy by .-mim-eT
presentation
Welaf,' sir. respectfully, yours.
. lS ' .IflHV WR a RT. W Pm-nannl t
jJavKiMewan, j
, .' Henry 3; Parke,
'"Win. Phillips,
. Jeremiah velman,-
Maocs Brown, '
R, Gillespie- "-
John r. llodgens.;
.John Hide,
; George Knox, - '' '
:'.Jainc .Wood, ..
. . Wm. Chunn,,
'; Johii'Co,oper, --'
John Boston, ;
Henrv KeHer,
;v v SENATE.": V-:--:
' ' : :"' 'Saturday, March 2;
Detate on (he Amendment to Hit ConMttutietl.
- r - l.oeLiTni:i.1 - t
.- :Wr; M ACOtf of N. CsaJd that these resolu.
tRios hadbeen referred to a select committees
tliey' had beep iflaturejy Considered and re
ported upon by that Committeej and now, be
cause a certain pther subject, hot' connected
with them, had beeu iirtrodued,o vote was
to be taken upon them',, What is tne ques
tion before the Senate? -It is upon the inde
finite postponement of the resolutions, and
pot upon their subject matter, t, Why should
noS fair Vote he talten eh them?. ' Gentle
men who are not entirely decided on business
before the Senate, geiierxlly vote for a post
ponement.';: He. .thought no proposition; Jo
amend Iho constitution, that liadvever been
before the Senate, bad so much- in. tavor of it.
as the o.ie 'that hd been' reported by this
Committee. u nao, nrst or last, peen recom
mended by almost every onoofthe States,
And now. alter au tne time tnat uaa oecn
spent about it, oftet onVof the proposition
had been discussed at full lev ;jth, they are all
tobe thrown by.- He well knew, thaV men
would do, in relation w these tmngs, as tney
thomrht ricrht. lit eorisidercd it tin extreme-
iv" unfortunate circumstance, that a subject
which had notbintr to do with the real 4Uei
tion hff'ore tike Senate, had beenintroduced,
and was about to des'ro all chance pf consi
define1 the amendments to the Constitution
fi Mr. XL' said, he knew thatno anftndment
could now be made to effect tho next elec
tiors There must be a concession of opinion
smaewbere-eTery body feels the. embarrass
ments we are labonnr underj ana yet we are
not permitted to iro on: and icuaCnSs the a-
f The'Nat. Intelligence k, Warn. City t..
ette',both advocates of the cctw,iKi Car
His nonorabie tnena ana colleague, (ir. ' ;
Barbour.) had stated, that he, (Mr. Taylor,) . -s
had beensSis hutructer in rvspect to com rut- . . ,
inf. and that, he had introduced him Into tho". 1 .i ,
nrt caucus he evor attended. HiCo'le.ff uc, ' , '
if he had received any instruction fl ora, Ws v"
vt Hht subjocti had Certainly Profited greatly ' f
bv them. , He.liatl been a verg apt tthoiar r V" .-
h s lessen, and batiar tut ttripptd Witwi. ', :
ter. : But his COllesgtio was greatly mistaken, c V '
ne hadmever attended a caucov father irf T '
Congress or elsewhere, for the purpote tfntm. f w , V,,
iwO'J' tandidutrt fir tjficn. Suth proceed- , . v '
uig, he-considetert, very aungeroui ana aiuv,
gether aMtrstiaft'iKft'eno- ; . .. C ;- ': '.-i J
The meeting to which the gentleman ''had '-
alluded was hell bysome of tlie. members nf ..
tVi.V!mnnia ia1atiir.' for the SincKI Vhl -
poseu lu 'UC.iegil'avuri-,. nir. i ajiui ' aaui, ua,- .. i f.".
did; not agree with tho gentlemen on , tho ' v" 'i
Other sine, mat piiormai meetings,, tor pre- t
oar'nt bills Or resolufiona, to bo proposed to , . v,'
leeislative bodies, had .any resemblance to ,
congressiontil CMicus, .intended to transfer ., .
a tneir ciMiaiivuuuiiai vueva unu . ' ,k
inttuonce
Cpngress.
conirress
vate ciunveters. . I o uuiBtrate una assertion j
WC have all heard Of what is caned a bimv t
dance.. ' Buppoae sixty or seventy oi u;c gra 4
voatf and mnat vc-anctable-' nrivate -citizens J . t
should assemble and entertain tho spectators :
ie in the election of a msilcnt-,M.s.-y"-.
M.-lt had been aaiq, indeed, that a.,..v. , ,
sionaj caucus acted only ti their pri- SV i
-.a
tu . ! n-rn n1ttiwt. "f'; t HrtTa't rtiva fa-ta maBO I Wlf h i n rUVkfliHW Hid hfirBrlinM. VVAuKI
caucuses or- hdw fow theve are.- 1 care no-1 hot their private characters be estimated ia J)
tliuiff aotHix uu;ni, wncp nowcyer, sduuii pvijitinjcun j uiv. caiwuuwhi .- nut im - ,
PUSIIO JTIUloJlid US Ul.lIiyV4 0 WVUjjlVpo IJIU1 14 i .
assemble and exhibit a srmuaf scene, ' would Vr ' '
not their public characters be also estimated . '-
So, when' assembled for nominating a Presl- -1 ' -"'
dent, w is their public characters, and those, ? ;
6nly,.wincu ,are-mtendel to innttpnce- the -j ,-
election, and sUch art mHuenct destroys that
of the states, bestowed by' the constitution '
tor scu-pre8fcrvauon, .DV iransternng to on v -
charactert will follow them tow a caucus, V'f .'
either for the purposo of a bqntUnce'vr 1
nominating; a tWdent.; : :?S?,
m'nlinn-(1 the-word ' e ift thia- d-lat. v A'-':
nor should he have" now done' so,- hs;d henot '' '
nfipfti.- AntW.t resolutions for'ameT.dinir. the 'cOnaSithtion
. 1 . t. : .1.- ' l'.lI.U.U I., l.l.hn. il fcin,it4 Ki Ai,ci1 vw J- V
josnua.: ; so we lorgei. iijc pnncipiea wniciii w- u( i .y, 0,..,.
produce tne revolution-. aiy state, nappny, 1 Kjjsmer hl ""jv ,a ,wh.uciv - ,
is neither a large nof a small olie.v It euioys tpwardi that cohsolidttted apd concentrated. r,
about aii edual nonulation. and does ftot iio-1 form of government, towai-ds Whioh , wer
crease much. What benefit can the present
provision of the consiituUon, be. if wt get no
u :.i iv I.J1' i-v n,- e... :n
turn 10 uc cuuuueiauun vi tuc pnipuacu a-
mendmcnts. , . '
X; :'Mni&au, 'March
DICKEtrSON. of N. J- rose to answer
twenty years past, 1 was taken in by 'a caucus,
and said I would not attend another. 'I, had
Intended to ivave given a history, of some, on
diff erent side; but it is decided pot to be
order. a,, ,Jr-v:.;
How tbe choice of Electors, bfrdisti-iets,
could tpossibly prevent an election pf Presi
dent, as has been said, byS the gentleman
from Son'h Carolina, I eahnot possibly? perceived-
Tlienumber of votes given by the
districts, 'would be equal 46 that ,now ' giyen
I qo not understanu how it can, prevent an e
lection. "f.very generation has Its' own no
tion in politics, as Well as in religion,' ttell-
giousana political locaaareuuiisiuiiuy cuang.
inc.V.' The Book of Jud&eS rive ijtdescriD.
tion of these change, where it speak of the
verging witir awiui -rapaity; tma junc jjf , :
ture, ita thowmgn vnminattoj-.wouia proiy j :
duce an excitement' inconsistent v with a dis ' t''v't-
c reef consideration of the arhendmentsi ai
Mr.
to the at-giiinentiof fhe; gentleman from 8
Carolina, ( Mr. Havnc. on the artiehdrocnts re
ported. , by xho Committee. ' He contended
that the advantsffes of the district , system
were so great, that, to obtain them, the small
states
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therefore he. concurred in the proposed post -j 'c.
l-vM,
. i.r.nijt.o,oi wiaw.ro.ic iwreirio rpiaia ; t
iv 1 - A'..i.:t. .. 1 j ..1 x " f",.'
uic KTuunui on wuicu jic iiau oiuvcit lur.uio
indefinite postponenient or the reomtidivs,;,r,
and stated that being; fully cdnVuied . that; V,-: -(
the RAnati waa not nnenaVed trt irf-nn fli ; ' ? .' .
subject during , thv present- aessioh,:- ha Ju-f,
I xl 1. J . ... . . . Z ,1 ri , ,,.
ouaut to oe'-wi lang to surrender tne 1 muugui,.icT u6y w, uv jiwaipuncu...- w.' . ,1,
power-.or voting rorine ,xTsTenr, in tne ; Sir. kkijjy, or auu nqxt sooic.uie floor, v 1 k-
House ofBepresehtatives,bytatesthatthls and began with observing, that he' w6uld en ,:t.': '
surrender Woujd be an equiyalent to the large deavor, 6I faraS,it wat; practicablci' to with-i; -o
stales for their consenting to the dirrict sys- draw, the subject under deuste from the, fog j 1
.tern, and' jt was duly by compromise, and pro- which it bad been -enveloped,; and to con: v )
Wal concision tliatany a mondmehtcoujd be fbrmto tho rule of debate pcrlbed by tho' f3'v -
nccompHblied, . tn answer to" tho objection ehauV , He remarked that the whole discus-; V- -
fy calculated to brinff the election into. Con- a Wantof forbearance On the part of the gea:i;iV"y;
gress, and thus to Substitute Atf -election by t)omeH fho..)is4:Mivooat'od. tlt.measufe1l.lv'f. .
the National LeirisLiture for one by the Elee. The srchtleman - from New.York,, Mr, YtineJ: ''':
lOrs, Mr. t).tontended that the election of th.e
President by Congress was not liable to the
objections urged against it, and that it was a
mode of election) originally agreed to by the
Convention Mr. D. madd some, Quotations
front the journal of the convention, and went
into an argument in support onus position
In answer to the argument; that his proposi
tion went to , deprived. the small state of a
great portion of their power Without , obtain-'
ing any BUDBtanuai uiuieut iurioe country,
ir- conu-oyciico inuaa putuuuna,. ana in
listed that the plan proposed by the gentle
man trom soutn uorouna, was uauie, in an e-
dual decree, to tbe same: objection.-' Both
nlans involved the' surrender of the powei by
the small states, of .voting, in the House of
Uepresehtativer by states ft power,which
Mr, D. did not consider as essential p their
safety.. Mr Dick erson supported . Ins views
t i i i : j t.i . t . '.
oy an argument euitatucinutc icnpju. '
Mr. JOHN TAYLOB, of Caroline, Virirln.
ia, said, he was OpposetLto the district g sterq,
bocSuse it had a tendency to denriva all th
statea,' great and smalV of a' portion of their
power, and because .it interfered' with, the
separate character of the states, as indepen
dent sovereignties. He illustrated this view
of the subject by several remarks, and then
'on- th.e subject of the .eonstituiilAnMikU gi&f
tnentsV a,nd had twen' in his defence, Sod. jWi ? '
titled bis, disition'. to'delays actins; pH :tl ,.?' '
tuaject at uus crisis, on account or the.t' iro i 'I7
rover wuicn now -urvauiuuu ,-o aeiccv canur v - V
date for the fresidency ana vice-rTe8:denf ; J V , i
cy pf the Pnlted State, i Whether lie act': .al 1 . (.
ly :used the ' calalistio and nbteiitouS word- ' l-
Caucus, or not, 1 hold it, said Mr. K. immntev -m' ' '
rial, ' . He certainly spoke of a central power ' "V
that had arisen in this government, not Known y ?
to the; Cimstitution, and,' unfriendly. toT'tha
liberties of the nations and whether be called
it a Caucus or not, he certainly did. said Mr. ?, 'I ;-r,
assure the gentlemen that he bad no qn-V,
friendly feelings .towards anj ' fr6jt wno'iv .
differed, from bim in opinion, V .Now,r Said ?: 'i .Xf
Mr, BL'tlils remark was received .-wii ;tho f '-yj'i A
or tnese gepttemen they had with an uitra
cluvalrdus ttpritt dii'ttfp inimediately ruh-;i y
ed into a contest on the C aucm Ipiettion, and , ; f
had. -entered , into- arguments In support ,f '..
that measure Mr. - Kelly repeated, that SV;"'''-'.--.,
very small portiofi of forbearance in thatstago W
of tlie debate, - would have prevented tho?y'"
discussion altogetlierr but; as gentlemen had -- '
thought proper to assume srd.fi'erent coursef-. '!.7;
it hh.l rprtanilw h,,ti:.A nrftiififW tha't. fhi 'ti-'
nrnrAfif.i tn stot thai hn enne'iiw! ,n t ,i. J
mcivunentt' bv, which, the'se' evils might be :pinion that had. been expressed in debate, I ren-.urks should be answered and their argu.
remt-die'd-.Thi ameiulmonl, he thought, that the distnet system Was calculated tojtnents rtfuted. lhmhnr ben done by. tbe,
wooid ensure an -ticcuon, witnoux
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going to I bi-in tie ctecboa of f residcut Into the House, v'v: See ih Vte.
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