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UAU.IGLI. (N. 0.) FniUATAL'CUSt s6;i8si
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Ji XMkCarvlia Gaxet!!,
HELL "LAWRENCE
Sjkjatbrti'W, (km tuilrs xr . R a.
. mt aiil r mm. wnnrmt ai r " a-1
.ra eaa, wtl fliaaoetiawvn, bav 1
t. Minf the Kdiiurs, nnt-alt rmrf
t ' m ttuJ. .fteriaemta. etceedmr
"' xnCri.' Wat led tH tte tnr mm sViilar,
" ajtl eety,f.f ! f' a0 Tuat.ee..
, AH leftrt M lhe.m'r aaast fee Pi1 pvi
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OFFICIAL PAPEU. i
re-
' .itrt it heJCrtek (fVaw t-.J I
hit Ex'w O- TrfK : -' '
giOntbe ?6th of lu., we the b
rt endow yow F.itrtlcncf copies of
' onnnofvlt-nc lioJd t toe ln.lit- Sprir
'wilU Gen," tl;!ne. Teur EwBcticy will
pttce-vt, tbt cfoTimion of GeorU .
! nre UihiS'.W hy hi frtsn' hy pirtW.piitinA
tht CotinciV 4 in oheilirnce t ' ' i-:itl.'
tn;fim, tSet eywed a pyoient. a.id. with
eut dobr et frsr.i f r HVclitll. nexr ;
Uroken Arrew. 'After out arrival at U't'
!cei weatin.irddreaae&fcnett (No.
, Cenerl. Gained r;iiewii(r bur reyieV and
expWning o Uim pur jnotiTea and intention ,
Jn wishing to "en4 the Council. ' Tbia li4
.'fmt - apprv aWmtttrwf jo ' the GeneraJ.
, and lie adhered, to Via iv'ioiM determhia'
tion tq f xclufla ui.froin tfe" rouncH o$ rJtm
wkttiontrt, wlite e we'e left at l&ert5 to
', attend Other' Individual: tee N. 7,)--'
W deemed it-' nnnecesrj tu i entpr out
- protest t(faint thi retu and determined
' aotto do "Oj-oua aiaCi-re and aximude
, tire t'lie no eafui of comlkint ?to tho
i Genera), and, to attend the Council as indi-
f riduals, 'that - We' rfiight avail f oirrfeve, of
overr nurans'willvn our power of citftni
pliifun5 the object of wir appotiitmenC , "
'-sAfter wo hud yjrepared oiir letter to Gen.
Vrt A 1 KcfnM If liut been hmn.
f ded to him, we weire invited.hr the General
,,'to attend a i-ilk' abwiit.to.be' held between
Mraand the1.HtlTririefiC conynr ttrti
' Talk is marked .Xo. a) ' Fi-om io1 anxiel)
"of 8i-al Aarent.Mai)r ' Andrea t-10
satkftthe-niSnd f the 4tUo PripceTM; to
ati ur - isionofthe .Afftmt,CoJ.vCroweII,
we felt k.ixiona forebodings thOjt We need
f mt eipect to find lii htw a rnan, who south'
."'only to extend imijarrl jiistiee to,the accu
sed, in tho afternobn.oftho'nrat daY'O'lie
35tb of June wo od to the, Abry asion;
I (the- MethoiV!e;v'''9-).
v-4o see the Kn: Im SJn)in,rwiom we pro-
'uaed .to examine aso'V tnes,!; to tpprse
t him that fact and to ascertain what time
;''WMVW niosf onvenlen to hinv. Whe.b
Me' arrived, -m fohW Col CroWejUf?aj.
v Roclcwell his counsel; aiid MajAndrt ws. te
Special Agent, a!readMhetrtt Keinp intro
",. incfi ta, Mr. inith; fteT i ''AtUne e
""informed, him of or wish- ftnd intension to
sea and examine Itim' affa'-itnessy and
wtshed to know what thhenrnul'k'si him.
Jis ' anWef v wai, .that anv rtitne Vould be
ioohveniento Uim. : We ,the;h proposed-V
.malte the examination n the Monday ihorh
2 ing thereafter "and enquired of CoL CfwelJ,
w hal w rVfin the 'tMter1 marked
Kb, "5. whetb it ai tim would uit him, f ol
t- HVU llv UTtul1"' ; JWW Mi" ..". T V v
( tasked'-by Mau Andrew, whetVer, we. ind
v. CoL Crowell had made any .arrangement--. as
I yito-the takins; of tCjtilrn&njTvla which wa
j that each Ehould ftWjh ' opportunity- '
i 5' cr6sxavninin '-mtewttheMCo examined, i by
I ,j:heftheri -and Jlistrtto, other arrangement
I f ihadbeen.madei; While these, conversations
fbomt whom -ueiuAierstood AO hoitW Jle.
tee Comnere. llir Baptist Missionarv; and
, antlic ol tbe,leHerW the Sfaithemlntelli-
t i. tcuv ... He was-nifotmed that tnc ComHijsi
sioners would eftaunhwhin Aiso ilr.jCTO;
1 pere made some objections t beinsf.' rwom,
and he was distinctly, informed that the law
nuitjpvided, that, the xJJUinatimf would ,bs
cquatry obliffatory.with; an- oath,vVhe .ny
rersnn had tonttibtiitmiteruiki about fta-
V.imiran oath' 1 iwould not ay he bad any
, -eonBcientious scruples about, taking jp; path
jvplea about.tskin? an unnecessary cthrvthM
he concelvbd one u.nceewry la,thi case-
i That -he "would irWe k Uieroent and, .'that
i ;i was isllhfe presumed Mn-Smith would dof
f .Mri at in ieciMft',ne wouta.iiOi swear or
f ,4tatetheni would
sullicient with the resi-
oath. oft affirmation: butlf
'J y.' Andrei. " sajd'U vas necessary to "swear
i then informed by one. of the ,Cpniminsiotier4
, 'that he knew the object ot toeir; fftkjnpthfe
t( ;mony, .and .if hr would jiy 'in wnting,N
r'.t!. e u.ieir,enfwlthout oatk'or affir ma
' tion oiild be iuffibic'iSthB .ComJhiKsners.j
'oull be sausfied ;:Totbi hf Hfphecfc that !
f he did not know tbe tobject'fat which they
.were, taking testimony. tbat.U as a matter
betwetn-tlie Commi.ssioners and Mr., Com-;
- vPeto, and that, he- must decline iaying any
.; thirg;. , re' was eferwd to your" letter
"I him, as ...j.natOTy tjf oiiobject,,1 Ie" said
he did not tliink those letters .did explain hW
Bc id not know ; whether, we intended to
) i.ie testimony before the President, the
a,I.egis)!turfe, r EJfecutlve of Gfcorgia, or fce-
fore s Judicial tr'.bimali. 1 lie 'was, infirfmed
i Mmt fie must know, that 'll could not bc in-
r ;v tended for a Judicial tribunal. - Major "An
t (ewal'persistiiigr ,in' his refusal t4 giro an
C cpiuion, and behevinglhe controversy worse
i than nsekssVe took our leave. v?,.
i Imreediatcry on retdrnifigtd Fort Mitchell,
re wrote, aiaj.- Andrew the letter No
- ,hich remained unanswered till, two of the
Commissioner Jones and Torrance, left that
".Vflace for Alabama. - To persons not present,
and .particularly those unacquainted with all
ino-circiimstancet, this letter . nvay appear
ksrfl), and tlie Wflnuations unwarranted! but
. e can assure j our Escellency that hotbing"
, but the most, positive iconv'rtion could Iwi-.'e
, S,intlucd. u to take this t - v. 1 hould cir-
v
ckmiuu,ces have transpbed4o Ify iuiwelcbtaia the trutu i.oaimcuhvjni u tue tnaian'taucaim
t 'f't y; : '' . ;t.'-V'-;t ... r-i - .;
were ttwj, we ,nuU bbdI eberrlinv have
retrc.e(t ,u e are aorry 1ut tb iwiereat
olGt,; ani pf trutX. we are compcited to
4cUir, aubcqqrtit eferjls lure x.K
oaiW.nW us in the correctacss of that opia-
WV " " t t. ?, . V - f . ,
Jj the eveoin W Uvt day, the 8ih, two
w.he 1'omiiMMitMn aUx; Iim (We pub.
be road, snet and WU a cuai Com reflation
wT Jewkh Gray, a half-bread Ul.au, and
one of tke rhiefs who bad sitfnl the Treaty,
roe aornin- we frcerred mfW,i,m
(bat VI m. KaiiiUK- ih -
aaJ (old Gy thai Ga. Games was displea.
a. wiili him and uj for holding- conrcrta
tiona toffetber, and that ho snuxt d so ba
ore. Prom Crara rieiwi. Kn ?i a,.
wil! sea what waa'said to hi:a by the Indiana.
" -Ow tho torainir at sk C&k t.. r .-
Coinmjawoaera walked out, and with them
jf1 w1 hy tho name of RichsrJs, (a WmA
VD bad lived m U.a N.liuiV'Mut kaH U. i
tertiretef to tho SeiiwHole inlant) bo had
CU.m dint the Creek K"t.n .n.i .k.
tended at Btvkeit Arrow to bavv h settled.
ircrue mutned from rne waiv. K. w.n
to I lie. CnmiisWioners' room -to shew his pa,
pers, relative u bis eLumfiMnrii. . -ic
ter dianrr of that day. sundins- near one of the
commM.Km.-r, be was asked by him wt.it vj
t.ie name of h Indian who passed by at' the
vuvil ITD1 lntTTIUkf tllil iwfl If rtM K .
reo'irs ed ! uk tt . it ..ir.,r
whoatood by, and inrornied the Consmiaaioiier
the Indian tved below. H ik. takl.i that
the naiwe of the L,dian, and, not hi place of
77 J V eTVl"lrel "W. ' Hichards then
stated, that he was wiling to rive the Com-
rrv"t, any mtonnation 4nd aasistance in
P"'" 10 ohlipo them in anr wf he
waa able, bu that be had received ah order
not to hiiv any intercourse with the Commis
oiu:rro interpret between them snd the
lf iH forony purDoe..He waathen asked,
wfoffive tlie wrderf Va it riven by Gen.
U i,ea? To th s he answered, the order was
not rtven by Oenl Gi. hm th.t 1.W ha.t-.
ceived , u seder, an- beared thai no more
ouwtions m1(rbt ie aked lumL . About this
time Col. W illiamson joined us, and upon con.
sul'auon, we dctermilel to ask an inter.
uh Gon Gatnesl from whom ha bl
ceUed bis Jetier 4 tiu- 26.h. (Xa 7,) to
nim me connaence ot tae Governor or Geor
ris and of thCCom nii.orf ih, in his exertions
aitd determination .16 cj'iiet the disiurbancen
in the jNatioik, and reconcile their d it rcncr
to state to him.tbe.Uihctilties attending us
''om-.tue tenticf which ws placed on our
oommunicatlotu with the Ind an cotrntrrmen,
(?';"'io o-wn m. uic .iun 1, afiu whit xne
trttiltiija hemlveto detail to him tlie-a-bove
cimi nstanCes relative t Gruy and U'clv
ard S(. to assure him that we woi'rld have no
itercfurse whateeer with: the. Indiana until
his business was closed,' to 'prevent trir' niir
cmtn(ction of ur motives and conduct, if
he,.t-enefiUiaities,x would promise qn his
nnrt that he would keep tho Indian Chiefs
there after he was done with them, &nd give
an- opportunity of exanuninir,. them sena-
rateh-and apart from each other, before him:
Hi then stated that M.Andrews' would wish
to earo'ne them in Cotmcilafuer he was done.
a;id that he, Maj,- Andrews, sugfstedthe pro-
pnery oipqr ara wing up; pour iiHernKwories
and stibm:Un them to bim for. his exaniins'
two. betore they. were put to the Witnesses.
Me was immediately told by one of our mis
sion, tlwt we could not submit to such a, re-
inwhiori from Mat. Andrews; that. if klerf-
tified himself, wit K Col. Cruweti as his Coun
sel, and proposed such " srraniement as re
o:jrociV wtsvwat c-.nittef ot it, . But that
he. is Mtinr Impartially between ua, tnd as a
Judze, had :no, tight t) askroi' -.demand any
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sucn tnmj, ana xmi we woaia not accede to
it. We further . told him that we: Were well
satisfied.' awl bid ncjdpubj fromhU know.-1
eac 01 me tinman- cuaracier, mat tie must 0
af,i8lietV of tp.p Inutilitf tot examining them in
Conciiltbal .Jte;1rld'.iTpea:-e..iTOe
story: Whetnef true or talses- imleetl, that the
Talk.,ouU h delivered by one nan, and
that we could ortly. hope to obtuih ' the truth
rrom snem oy.w stparaie eaaninauon$, mat
we wished it in hU presence, & tlmt we would
put pur,, tjttjrstionV.iA.trtitlnjf. -The .General
then" Tirei ushe w.ould with pleasure give
iis ai) tbe.faiodities in his power; that he had
the pqvi ef- M detain the rhietsrt tiwraahe
pleaicfdl and thMm would''do ic-, -that he
would let "usluibw' when; liie,was 'dona with
thei'am) w shoud.t.hen have the opportu
nity of xan3(ung.theni as we wished..' H'e
ihpn took bitrv'evft festmif with full Confi
dence; irr the': assurances. j ata, and assts
tauce,; which ti d had received H w- well oftr
xpectfms'.v?cre; fnlnllad; and ; how justly
our confidene .W -repOiJed,' will be seen by
yoiir Excejjency id the report of Cols. Jouf-
Ui-ptf MhdaSTthinhe tttor
repiiire -jo th AsHuryJ Hsion. ,hoiisev' to
submit; interii?atories Ho .Mr; Li .JoniperHv
When we arriwd, we ag:un found CoJ.Xro)v
ell. Jlal, lRockwy!H4 atitl Major(Andrsj-aV
readV there.' The two fetterm a priratc room.
Uh 'iloor of ',vheh "Wa carefuilyJosed and
fastened on our entrance int"the nouse:; in
a sttort lirtke .Me. Smith came, int the room
vbere;we saijandhanded us the Jotted No,
23. signed hr himself, iSr. Compere, and- Mr
H1II4 the last pi Wbom seems io nave enusieq
! 1 . - . t s . m
himself as a wunteer.as ne naa not oeen aiK
ed bv us. ttbr had we intended to examine him.
Pf that letter, yoa wai perceive toey bad
cVmeloia positive determination iwt to sweat
er kftirtn to aw statfsment they might give-.
With6ut eiitermi' mto anydiacusMonas to the
propfkty ef that determination, we submitted
some inu-rroETitones p air.-oinucro. o
ttMpf wf mnid not then receive auv answers.
We were .informed .'.they- would be prepared
in--k rmiw (d tin (lav and haiitlc lo ns in
the evening, as thfrt'-Ouncil were ex; -cted t j
meet that morning. The Commissioners dc ,
Clined submitting tny questions to. Mi . Sn l'
at that time ahd departed, leavine i .e r
9Ahe nan together, tio doubt to c
and determine m the answers proper to be
girtn to the questloiia.' When we ci-'Vd in
thdeveninc. tint answers rfc ulre.. ia.h
1 out to the questions betore pro ; " , an 1
answers n-a .e to aaoiuonai t4ui. -ion iui.it.
subnultc-d. , v 1
-We w
vi e uiikb'c to give a pvlir idea of this
altwu FiuT.ce it torwJiJwe be-:ame
-ihiied t' l any altcii.pt 1 our part to j.
T.'.,nini.'.!,i;i. Muce 11 wiVhMe wwra
well satined t t auyalttii.pt 1 our part to
trutu i.oiiimcuLvjr rui tue Indian'
Kt, whether hh or red, and uadee the
1iWace and fvt efUo Arat, Hmq boj
eotklnet, we nere then eainirt, cnitat b
rrti'ittca.. ' for bat auuld . .eta.t tru.a
ntbetn, who pretSoda Hae no regard for
tue sacred obsess wreCrion, wbrn we
fownd a Minuter W the sVicnri-a
doe of Christ rovernv btjaeVnitb the sane-
uty orbiS mande to proud bmwetf trusa h
prevancaonr and auivucaUnf w lb a UL
meat nbich nis ewiKicvi woidd n.jt pet mil
kins to vohfy by an oaita rotation. . Cn-
aer tlin conrtrtton and to , "en Ibea from
preparing tUe aiUer wJf as they bad
done those about I on Mitcbelt. it wan deter
aurwdthat tan of our aliaon sbauM iramede !
aetly proceed to Alabaan to Uke testhpor
n o road, and at Cine creek ana. Monu
goery in that stale -Messrs. JtMtes and Tor-ranee-were
t-lccted for that business, They
left Fan. Mitohslt, and irgceeded aa far as
Crabtrce's that eveninr. a diaunce f fwv
miles. , In pursuance of the in tructions we
bad received from yur Excellency, CoL
Crowell was served with a notice on the i8tb
early In the morning, that we would lake ths
testimony of Kendal Lewis and JanvsaAIost
at the House of Kendal Lewis, about 25 r 36
miles d.stant from Fort Mitchell, at 1 1 o'clock
that day. Tan will peVce ve from Cok Crow-
cii's letter of tlut date, No, 10, tliat ne com
plaineof the time nsttoo abort to afford him
the opportnmty of cross-examination. While
we avlmit the time was short, we deny H was
too limited for him to reach them. We in
tended to gio Only tine enough to enable
him or his counsel to get there, and to allow
them no time to tamtv-r with and prepare the
wi incases enner to answer aa tliey wished, or
not to answer at all. - - j. - '. V ?
r-As proof ef the sufficiency f the time,
we would refer your Exeellencv, to tho re
port of Messrs. Jones and Torrance, marked
mX'" ' '"-''' i '''C,.4 ''
-Tho; Report of Messrs. Jourdan and Wil
Caniaon (marked H. will show theif proceed
mand the difficulties they encountered
aunnr ui absence Of Messrs. Jones and Tor
ranee. v '..
Fou will have seen by, fiinnirpan'of.tlile
report, mat two or the inemuers of tue am
sion v Messrs Jones and .Torrance) departed
from Fort Mitchell on the e veoin of the 27th
for Lewis's. J.ine Creek "ami M mtfromerv.
foFtlie purpose of procuring the teslunony of
certain witnesses at tbose places, r hey hav
ing aC:o.njH,siied that object so far as jthey
were enabled to .do,'retumd ahd joined the
CommuNuoiiers at Cnbtree's on kundsy the 3d
instant: Having been informed on that mot
ning that Mr. Kendal Lewis, U whim we had
propounded certain interrogatories, 'on'-the
day before in writing, & wao .had at his re
quest been allowed a short time to draft his
answers, Vhad refused to answer them at ill & i
had also left the neighborhood for hie rest
dence, wc determined to inform Gen. Gaine!
of the blunft, and re.juest of him an order,
whereby Mr. Lewvs might again bebroughttoj
Fort Mitchell to testify .This was done ?n(
tho 4th inst see No.SL Jrt that communica- i
tion you will observe, that ,we cautiously --
raided I the use of nn; -language,' the least
caV.ulated to interrufX the rery fiiendly feci-1
ing manifested toward thet' CqvemmCnt Of
Gwgiatand her Commissioneh , hy'j Gen;
Gaines, shortly after, their, arfitai atFort
Mi chfh.Wc sought cidy to correct what
we considered a mistake made by - tho Gene
ral,, through his aid, doubtless, nnintentional
-to request Uie order for Lewis, and a copy
or copies of tho Trtka to,' and firom tlte Indi
ans. How far that communication authorized
the reply we received forbidding further cor
fespondence ith thtf Ontied States'; Mission,
then in the eek Nation, touching the ob
jects of the disturbances 'herein, your Excel-
lency will readily determine.. Whether the
'VA'.f . JIuhI wai, inMtlri..A ! -'4knf' HSwiiiA..
we know not, but suppose, that he, wasi.nd
that our correspondence may have been closed
iiftder a feelirtfg produced by your Eaceilen
cy's note to one of Ra memberaj Major Ani
drews, bearingdate the 28th bhyv.V,.',.' rtv.
'thi tle evening if tle 3d we were notified
that'theCOunatdfbr Col. Crowell would 'pro
ceed on the, next morning at about the' hour
of 9 o'clock, to take the exuminatiorr of Wd
fiam Hambly, tho tnterprelei1,' ? In pursuance
of T;Kt nytice,i we attended at the time and
place designated' When we ajTied we were
f. -'. k .. ...... .... j' fc'.i- J.I,
inTinrmea mat tney were nnicay, out wouiu
bn in a short time, 'After we had been there
about an hour, we ! were. informed thai they
were ready to close the examination of Mr.
Hambl?;,," To our surprise, we found that the
wnote ot tneutesuinony- or ;ine iBicrpretesw
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had been committed ito paper, by: Colonel
Crdwell1! -Counsel; before we-Wiire called ini
It was read to hitn y the Cqunsellr qf"the
Aecnt, wh stated to the witness before ho
heean. that he V:ould read Over his testimony
again,, siowiy ana oisunciij' m ana
thed.aakii Mr; Hanibh', "1 pare read over the
tetihTOy idowly and distiiictly-rmdo'ed not
once but to 't Mxret ( o;e and you tan
savV'Sf ' anv vthV;r vls twronff.j-"The witness
enid all was TiirhfAiid then swore to the state-
ruents lie bad beard read as true; such a course
we considered very unlike what is termed an
edcaminatimi, Having heard the testimony of
Mr. Harobly, we determined at once not to
cross interroeato- himt his .'Evidence, ' beiitr
mainly confined to points affecting, the means
whereby the late Indian Treaty was obtained,
and attempting by 'a selection of statements,
that we believed te bo wholly false, and un wor.
thy of credit, to defames the lair character of
tne .v.- B- comnuanioners f nu every , .cnua
tonnectc d with them in- their duties as such.
-.Such utimony, if from respectable cha-
iraetes-s for truth; might be considered hnpor-
tant if thtj Government of the U. States were
Drosf ctiuni an enquiry oj acT.,aimw ajfviu.
tr or not a fraud -had been committed
hat Government by her Commissioners.
:i opiuikid we could not for a moment
ciusal of the testiihony iif. Mr.IIambly
1 convince ou in a nwnwiit of the cor
? s of tbe opinion w e bold in relation to
- :. . vi-racitr- lie has xurnubeu abundant I
mi'tter for rctnn 1c. '' ' - S ;'
You will see trcmCol. Cixwelrs letter ul
the S-Ji nbi'Ko. 10, to two ol the. Cummin,
'sionersj tliathecompls' ' runr..irness in on:
I - 1 ir.. v. ntit '.r tliat v.
tiii; ,."i , i ' f.-- "
tshould proceed to law 1 i.onyaia
taucaU.ra LJ-ottca An..
2 t.-'.iV$
. 1 a mi.
t T1, l-ounCil' aars he,
wanof favrk kvpoi-laie that I .kouU b pre. .
sent at the CnuuciL" Tke rw. ..1 I
were nma'toerd to be prraeat at that Cou
et al here fore rt eetM bare been of
much hnporunee fur an eSrer U tr Ge
tieralCovrrament tobepreseut whn was then
Mpendrd rrorji the fu actons of bis orSce,is
for him ta eipiaiW We bad distinctW beard
; in public Own t-n, CWiaes that, it was bra
I wiah that nn white man should brl -T
ta'K'.wvhtbe lixlians utJ lie v, doo w.th
them, From the enuree putird by the- A
gent ni skat council and bis permits on to tie
mftr Ikr sanan a, r4i. , umt aennia.
his nsnei-vmn was purely Mmnnali if
Was a mr ui krrv. We m .I.-.k, k...
that his free adm ss.cn into the Indian Ceun
cils, aided and awHsted by bis' farmer hub-
Agent, Mr. aiker, rave to him .quite as
much ind ues-se ors r the mind of the I tv liana
as o evrexerusen in the days of bit uunost
ni-ni!u-rit rA uiiIiahiw 4 .
JHosr well the lncr.aia. adhered ta the law
structions of Gen, Gaines, in not receirinL-
tatt-t from white men. vou can detrrvnine.
when you examine the written reply made by
them to him as official la that document you
win tcrv wax uiry apeak of the nstifrej
01 me v, autes ot her eonstitution, and the
principles by -which she is governed. Truly
a savare production. 1 . :. ; ' -
Upon the subject of a law, which the hostile
party allejrethat M'lntoah violated, anr) which
led to his death, you are referred to the report
of Messrs Jourdan- and WilLamsou. ' W.
bare no doubt from the very many conti adic
tory stories that we. have heard io the Nation.
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toucmi.r the oris-in and enactment of much a
lav; that no such waa ever known amonrthe
Creeksi w ars confirmed in this oiinioh bv
the reply wf Gen Gaides to the friendly Chiefs
at the Indian Spring on (he 20th lilt If we
are correctly informed upon that point, he
there stated tN he had read their laws end
was gratified o hnd none aa aanguuiary as
u,ai aucipju ay unr enemies a exist: under
refer of which it has been stated that thestur.
erof M'lntosh Was perpetrated.
f Xhe Chiefs A Counafdid not pretend that
they had any such law reduced to
o record. tl AlfPP ' TO
white man who informed one of the Commis
sioners that he had resided in- the Nation 20
or 3D years,' stated that be knew of no . such
taw. The very manner in which these unfor
tanste nian were put to dt-aih, proves that the
inaisns ai 1 not execute tnem for aaving via.
luted any law, We believe that when it be
comes necessary ta enforce sucb eangiiiiiary
edicts irpon any -of that tribe, 'the culprit ia ar
rested and conditeted to some town or public
square in the Nation, and there : under foes a
species of trial sentence o. drails, is. then
pronounced: the accua-d ia thereupon publicly
put to death by shootings How, unlike such a
procedure Was 'the foul murder of Mcintosh
and his friends; Vhie house was surrounded at
the dead hour of night and set on tire by a
band rH lawless samss'mn, and these encircled
by the scorching flames rodiitie4 By- the "con.
flagration of his owrt niwisioh, Vas bp inhu
manly " and fit Unlawrully nuttto death.
When witnesses are called on in the Nation:
who' it is supposed know something V thtwj
for these murders by saying it Was for vwlalion
of their Uwe-which law. 'answers a churcR
uuiaii uwa aiui anuian Doucv. xiiev account
Missionary, was ."tttniy n$My.", ) Uer
asked, what tow condemned to death a distin
guished man amongst them who was of the
party slain, but who did not sign IJiciTreaty?
Th answer i trravely jrived by a Her. Cler.
gyma(i,TAe Lav tfMitttfu, see Mf .Siti-th's
testimony. ..it woura have, been 'welt if ttvV
digniUry had Informed us when the luJiaiis
adopted the brincirdes ysJtcl, alartins and'
uji,.vi.hw... , ul5 iivnq illuiiaiaicllOli:, III
the statements of, the Indians and white men '
resklerrtmongst them, to establish the exie
fence of such a lawvtix indelibly oft the ftiinda
of f ha Qbmmuisiooers, that no such law is, or
ever was. p 1 ne, argument jn support oi su h
a latffoyejHoQ mucht the Agent himself did
not rely on it at the commencement of these
Indian disturbances. .f , ?) 5;'
, As an instance of the determinatioh of those
gentlemcn,.n-sidents iu.tbtf Nation, who have
assumed the rohes inf sanctity, to avoid 'anj
thing like plii trudi whenever It was to ope
rate against the Agent or Hostile Chiefs, we
call the' attention of youtfl ?clleiicy to our
Tenth Intetrogatoty 0 (he Re. Isaao SiiiUu
Ypa will observe tha he bu thought proper
to Uke the liberty to alter that Interrogatory
to read in such a way as would, ;tceQrdin$ to
his notions, f.'.vehim the oppot tijuiity nfT an
snswer. It is, under the1 words that he has in
terpolated into that interrogatory and without
our authority, he.Kas furnished us with his no
btual answer. . i J ;
I Wt; shall pot bcre ftspress'ati opinion'on'thl
conduct of Xlr. Smith, nor shall we say what
might be. the consequences to hitn if oe had
done this, within the acknoIbdg jd jurisdic
tional limits of Georgia, , i
t ttnmi r..t.a -.,1,1. ..f. !
support oi we charges sgatnst the Indian. A
gent Sustains Jheie charges, is hot for ui offi
ciaJly . to detei-nuneiv nor do we desire to el
press an opinion ot aa official character upon
U1V IUU1CVU - ( ! ,-- ..v.-. - ... j. - . -,Jf
. .1.1 . .l.lJLVV IIU, -UlSdyU WILUIU. U1V
ODjects-or our appointment, but inseparably
connected won tne 1 reaty and its eonsequen
ces, upon which we beg leave to off er a re
mark. It is upon the sub ject of the contem
plated surrey of the Territory lately ceded.
During the stay of the COmmissionera at the
Indian Springs, three ot them were informed
by several of .the leading Chiefs' of the friend
Iv Party, that thev were willini? and even de
sirous tliat the sui vey should be made during
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Hie tnamug rail, ana assignee as a reason.
urn uie aurveyora aim weir peopio oi in
araontrst iliem at that period, would afi or
them an opportunity of disposing of much of
their products that they could 4iot transport
with them to the westward; that fbey intended
removing beyohd the alisnssippl before ano
ther crop Was made, if the government would
pay them the money according to ' the ta ins
lot the Treaty, .--..sb. ivvv r,,-
Cotinecteu with uvs sir, we remark, tliat it.
ps somewliatstranRre, thai the Chiefs who le
h.ide beytrui the limits ot the .Territory ccuca
to tbe United states tor the bencht ofCcur
tria. are tli" only Chiefs, with a few except..
so for as v. e t e iuformedwhosre tipposd to
the survey.; 1 hi fact i liotorious. v. believe.
tLat tite Chief aad theit leader who.'' oj.pose
Jlii'--"'- 1 A:'.:.-, "" '-if TV':' r'.'v.r
vl.. measure, are resident riear TarsPooa tt,
Vc aiwi A abaua. Wkat I-j .rv tbeu caaUw- f
l- . 7 "Z
wsum by b sufer
H re rtb r truian-ll ra v T iri!lMif '
Cop-esof owr Correapond. . , (04 , .
Gaines aitd Major Andrews, eonneCted wnd .
the subiect, numbered from au ( Itto ienty ..' "
three t;Jj) inclaijveT s'ao tt. teatia'ionr rreeCa '
iwniiai 01 me ouu. s as .g ned ta -
us. ; The Ut-isaWjef vcialotlier w.uiec ,
wilb reeeivVdj aa iip-wrtitnitv fur the r et -aanmatiwn
has not l niTcrcrt. ' We alu.ll I '
eriiteckiwetheMveralcxa.ninalMMiSMeaa,
japrwucauie, ana lurttie.u, rrpirt toytn "
Wub Censidentione of bieS rr,n-
bave the bonor to be, Sir, your Excellency '4 "
obt. atrvanta,
' WARRCN" JOUnDA V.
:. ",. WM. W. WlLU tMSOS
r- sr.innAv lwr a
JONKS.
CTledre11e, lih July, X82J. , . , .
Rqwrt Of jrtrr. fonh and Thrramt. '
CenlUawia.-' We mrrivA 'aa r l 1 . . . 1;. :
aW j w o'clock h the morning of th.
28th 6f Jur. After waitias? ame rt. 1
entered into conversation with Kendal Lewia. '
and were informed by him that he was pre.',
sent wbeavthe obsarvetiona k -
CoL John Vowell, the Agent, which tveri v
proven hy Jesse Cx( tliat K had wuCos'a -
statement in the Newspaper, and that Cor
had sworn to the truthi and had. not told any '
ntdre than was said. We informed tr. Lew, '
had come on to take his testimnvi to.'- " '
which he ol.jecteVayiny he did not know
any thing but what h 1 mJ heard."1 We toli f
bun we wialied to ex ? l.im as to whst he"
beard Cwwell say. , he said eould bn V'
proved Dy others us wl u himself. - That
Jesse Cox, Drurr Spain and otbei-s were pre.
sentjsnd that Cox iad Sworn to it, and thu
was sufficient ..We.' told him tliat Cox had
sworn, but that we understood the dwells
said Co had stated a lie. He laid Cox had
a-rom 10 w tmtn, but that be eould not iri
Kt. , ... . 1 .....
u wwnsr,-.ws then told him we won
ttainea tbr an htvietn 1
. appear ocrore ntmtogtve histeiniMia
ny, which we had not a doubt he would irivei'
but if he refused. We u nnl.t m.Ir. a .
of the facts to the Governor of Georgia, and
he would apply for tn order to the Secretary O
of War or the .President. He Mid he would .
jt,'-v mj vi.iunrr om n u n, i net
sued an order. He would not diso .
We then wrote at letter to Cols
Williamson, informing them
and requesting them to apply t
for an order to require Lewis a;
wi.:i. . r. . ...
rder.
e 1
.1 and.
Jdc .
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.-i wv mre urgmr wr . cewis to be uiii, we) .
enquired into the eaue of his refund, lie
declared that he ws a!Vaid all hi property
woithl be uken.hway li o n him if Ho. testf. V
tied, i, tie told US that it was gonerallv un
derstood among., ,the I Indian countrymen,
white men in tho nadon, tlud if they 1I adV,
hred to the Agent, and he waa not displa
ced, the treaty would be broken and, tney -J
would get theit land back: but if tho. ta.ifl
tied against hint, and he ws discharged, th
treaty .would be good, and they would have)
g1 up their landsi and that thev were ett
afi-aidlhbjrahould loose t tiieir piopurty ij
they swore hhything against the A t t. 1
-'About 2 o'clock we -took the testimony of
James Moss, and aboUt 3 o'clock kit wis
aiid reached Cornell's bun c. ia n;v.
Ithat;fveningv,;''., : ; ;vi: - - ,-.
i" wwenea 10 . Montgomery, Alabama,;
and took tlie, depositions of.Jot n"AK Peck,
IInry Fjnch and John M; Bach-, Being una
ble to . find CapV,eJithouj-; we returned to -Crabtree's
on Sunoav tli 3d bf Jnlv anrl
ucvj ilia wmcr vommissioners. ' v
,..,( ',, i BKAUUR.N JONES, '"
. ',' X WILUA . T0WIAKC2, ' ;
"Te the Georgia Vommitfioner, t
, j, Milledb'eville,.Uth July, 1825, "
Beftrt oMeiir.- .phrrfon ,nd Wmam'j,
' CmuviKrOa Tuesday. 'the SUth nh-'arn V .
proceeded to the .duht; nii"ed us in rela.
tion to reparing and aiTamrinir intemriaaa.sl '
lories to be propounded to several WVli-
Head Chiefs of the nation, an i also io soma -
of the white men resident there which wn
proposed to lutve eswered .-immailiatelw--X
after "Genu Gaines hati Announced tq us that I
pe nan concluded his buutesswTUi the coun. '
inb conversation shortly afterwarda whh
Geti. Gaines on this Subject one of the Com
missionets frankly ttated to him that we had
. m. I! . . . I t ... .,
hu rciiaiita tin aiq oeing t.' 'ed iS tr 'tt
anyvotl(tt quarter- He'- in 'cdnfu-iiia.
tion of his former nirivu,, t J, vt he 1 1 '
the power tlii-' J, i!,,- A;: cut fur Ind;.
lairs Wassen ; iiic Cliii ls and Indian conn,
trymen -at )'y time and pl.'ee he thought
proper,, and 'hat our wishes in that partku.
lao should be attended to. From this u
fold assurance, we felt cotifident no obstacle
would be interposed a haV of witnesses ws -were
desiro is of exjimining was made out
ahd banded -to Ci -n. Gaines. In ijatoiiea
cdrrespondthg wci e made out,' wuicb. consu
med two or three days in the preparation and
arrangement. - I rorn an examination of tho
correspondence herewith submitteJ, you will
perceivehat an objection was interposed,
as coming from the Chiefs to the transaction
of any business w'uh.the Georgia Cominisi
sioners; unless in full Council, and the in '
suiting and Indecorous lanruatre in which '
they were indulged in communicating that . r J
u, vwii iu u". ' mil wiu iuso oe lnioi-mca
JL. . the objection was sustained. Our feel-,
ings wi.il, not permit us to comment on this
t. uisactuin in.a becoming manner, bee" - e
it would necessarily involve the in' t f
character which all fihould sustain .,0. j
high offices under, and possessing the rontf. ;
deuce .of the General Government, When
it .suited Gen. Gained purposes and con
venlence. We were denied a tiarticinationW .
i council for reason stated When if, -VS'.S 'sftT"
jrted Vidi the views of the Chieli to j&':?y.r. -e..
ic thetn to evade truth, we were Invj. x ;:- ? ill"; i
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.cu m mc iivuncu. nucn ,iiuc men alien--
Jed for examination who it was Lt-Uevcd had '
noncbty enough to awear the truth, and -tUi-eiKE-ti
'fear for their safety .evaded it, tha
exercise of the power which -could Coerca '
their attendance was denic-1. - v ., ,
yotiulll nut need the spirit of bv
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