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tT'' . 4 VRALEIGH, N. C;-PUBUSHED(weeklt) BY WILLIAM BOYLAN. ' v ; ' " ' ' j . r .THURSDAY, AUGUST 2, 1810 ; No. 748.' .15. they.) id from -J- printed copy lately put into unraWe David M. Erskiae to Mr. Se btttm .- . Washington) December 3, 1808. ... . tea OiaieS) nnu umi iic iiiuugiiv.iunv - vm- 1.1 therehv result to both COUn- American newspaper. 4neyr.c y hi, sentiments.Ll:l,: . , The reasons which induce me to believe ;nat we views and determinations of this government, as descrioed to me by Mr. Madison, are their real sentiments, and that they will pursue that course nf "nnr?nrt which thev have marked out, arise from . .'..f Pnorxii have I a m Mir Vmnsideration of the actual state)! the r 1 i . . i.. vi r-.tr.,: .x- nrhia rmnitrv. the narticulaf situation oi ite at . r iix-..Li .r. j rarivmnH frnm certain ar aou embarrassing HHU4UUII . vvn urc guisium-m . r- 7 - - tin and tliey have not yet determ,iued private but important communications which have ! ... .KJh.' thew mean to oursue : been made to me birsome of the members of, the F.c .. .. t pnti.n-tn assure vou that administration, who. are sincerely desirous ot a nf conduct recommended by the com- conciliation with G. Britain. . fthe House ot Kepreseniauvesy- w www i j., is cviuciu uum " t v . .v - .i.4,x.v. rnpntlnnrrl in ihp tolron nlarp in this rountrVi that the Deople at laftTe message t6 congress, will, in substance, are desirous of having the embargo removed ; but V Z,a kV. nrMMit. with certain hA. also in be collected from the result of the elec- I DC JUOlllvU v v"x j,..x.-x,..., ... . ! ' . .1 cn iim. nrevinus to (mn thrnnp-hout the U. S. that the present ruling mems, fa h:"- r , - , . : with ?in(o operation. - ' party nave a ucciucu u.ajuiv7 w,v . ...... V . .1 V fV,nc nn nhn Um aryr ac thev hnvt? r1edl?ed themselVCS not tO nOti hOWcVCr, UClUx. UJ hi ua. x. . x. . . .. ..x. , VlivT "x. v.. j o . . , i .u:. ,..oc..r that it ic nnlv n a Nnp it. ivhi s the restrictions upon uie ncuiioi kTnuUCCU III" lireoauiv) I ' ,-. . ... I imuUx-cv. ri ! f K Kntli hel crerent!?. with. k nature, and inai; me unucu ovuc may rigius tumumc i iwu v.. )3..,...-t ...... . ' i . i J f . oc...-oo anfl na thev thpm -n,t the bcllitrerents before the present selves acknowledge tUat the ultimate and only c rinses, or at any ra've soon, alter tne etiectul moae oi resisung suou w, rAsed a disapprobat on ot the continuance that it would be possime ior mem .w , - - j , mnfiq nf theckine i detcrmmauon pot to enaure it muco AWr ot """'B -T ous and hkWv to-raHoo, to the iniemt. of Am. i i j u. .... u r r 1 1 r- 1 1 1 1 1 r 1 1 1 1 1 1 iiir-. ui3iii.vu t . . . i ... M n anrn vms c mnon IF vnillllll lit- W 1 II dW ltl " f ' 4 ' . TOTernment and party in power uhulii; smmc umu,v,..vm - - WJVS entertaiTed that opinion, and that he had u ,La the resolution not to remove the unless they were to abandon all the principles resident to . except bv submitting war measures a- they have laid down, and to change a l the reso-J ZJZ nZnA France to- o ' . - . L-.l. I. . ...t '.l. .L... u...,. on .inpnninr!i ffuvnrMx. u -6 un. v.u"uu-i uiv. both belligerents, unless euner or,onu muons wfiW - ' yards the United States in a fair light before the relax their restrictions upon neutrai to- ea. - " It istmetliat they migh poss,Diyoo wne, vr s7"aw S that subject, and I n Spain .this subject someim 3 tt Exss himsel more di, t It'ma i and more coneenial with the spirit of a about to be. taken by congress upon another very , of the party, iner, and hw for they could car.. i auu jiiuic wuj;.iiiui . f . , . . .i-ir .... L .,x f.r i V, nnli.mnc rf thic fAntitrv' nlnncv with them iree peopic. .., ... , . , L .i .. '-u fnKhef effort in in tlieir attaints to remove the embargo, without 1 J 4.1 a. KM aim A rt . f !! n IIP 1 IWII I I llll I 11 ll & . . 1 .1 IlllEllli Sjurw.u.utba uwv - - r-- . " - a li . leading to a" favorable adjustmeWibf. them He recuning to hostilities . 0 . . . " ....... r 1 f-in. . 1 .-interests DULb;wr,iN i a. . Ho declared to me that every opinion which he '1 ' . r...MAMMAM I - '. . 'I ..... . . It" ..Anr between Mr. .Canmne ana 1 . i . u tL. unArrutanfYim informed me that a law was atjout tpbe proposed to congress, and which he believed would pass, tn interd ct all American vessels trom receiving on. anv fnreitm seamen, under heavy penalties nr forfeitttresnni that-alpedyAlie ships,(Avacxif the .United States had been ordered not to receive any, and to discharge such as -rere at-that time on board. This subject is also auuaeq 10 oy r. Lilies, me oeuaioi, 111 uix spcv., nw-:x. ... the confidence of the government, and it is said, is-to be Mr. Madison's Secretary of state.- Mr. Gallatirj also said, that he' kniw that it : was in tended' by the United States to abandon the at- ' . .... a ,. .1 tempt to carry on a trade with tne colonies 01 uu ligereht&in time of war which was not allowed in time of peace, and trust to the being permit ted by the t'rench to carry on such trade in peace so as to entitle them to a continuance of it in time In this manner he observed allthe points of dif ferences between Great Britain and the United States micht be smoothed. awav ( was h'tS expres sion) and that the United States would be wilting to put the intercourse with G. Britain upon a per fect footing of reciprocity and would either con sent to the arrangement that the ships of both na tions should pay the same duties reciprocally, or place each other simply uponine looting 01 me most favored nation. 1 have no doubt that these communications were against, both Great Britain and Krahce; -.;4 Upon a mature consideration ot, ilfc subject I am persuaded that ereat as the desire- is which' generally prevails for the removal, of the; embargo, lLD L. J" .l 4 .......1 J Mnt tn'mAMA - I !. !. -11..IJ l. .1.1 . menu mac 11 &nuuiu uc wiinurawti, v.tinuui yiv posing some measure of greater energy as a sub' sutute. bo' ,, ! nave maeea nimea at me proprie ty at once delating war acainst France : but -j x., - - a o - ;.. - T7 few, however, of those who have been most cla- - morous against the 'embargor have -yet-oiiereo; their nninions as to what course otiC-ht to be nur- -. . o sued, although all have declared against the sub- mm . .1 mission to th restrictions, uponneir neutral lights. .; - :-; ' Wrhenr the). small number ot, those who have -pointed out the propriety of going to war with 1 ranee, alone, is consiaercu, even 01 ine leaerai party, I cannot believe that such a measure wouU succeed. .' ' ' ' 1 All the leaders of the democratic party in con gress and out of it, declare that they only propose the continuance or the embargo for a short time, and that if the voice of the people at large is for more active resistance, that they shall be willing and ready to put forth the strength of the country ' for that purpose.. These declarations .are to be found in the speeches, some printed copies f which I have sent herewith : vou will find, how- evej, that in some of them a great stress is still 1 nave no aouot inaitnese coTnmuiiix.nui.x. , v.tv,, ... -"...x. ....... - e made with a sincere desire that they might produce raid upon the effects to be expected fromthe em- Ui.ll III lAjex.Ulg llIC lt.lJx.tv-i.o, imui.uiuiij "- Britain, to relax m her restrictions, from the dis tress and inconvenience which is likely to be pro duced bv the want of the produce of this.country. L iUS reliance upuil SUtU tuuacxjuutta miiu ure embargo is greatly, indeed almost entirely dimin ished in the opinions of most people, and I con-t ceive that the only reason why the ruling party wish it to be continued, Arises from a hoe.that time mi.'ht afford them an opportunity of Metier . . . . . - 17 Place inc couuux-i xi vjica. jjii." - 1 - - wards the United States in a fair light before the judging ot the probable issue of events in Europe, I ... . - . 11- 1 L 4 -. - , nArlilllintilN r T J W t LIll'l l'V'; III" C III llllliailll L t. ' - . . .. m, j- ;r.i nuh r. a seemerl lo-rneCK mmseii , mc iiiv uaiiiMucuif v w.v bumw. ; ave been made to me by Mr. Madison, and strength of ihtfr opponents, or .a ci ange ,n c r " V cowct froro lhe man- of the members of this government, which opimons ot their major, y amongst me F- J' r 8ome slieht insinuations, that he accordingly lay before you, aU conhdenuy but ,t is plain trom tne n" hght the president had acted with partiality to ethev. were delivered from an unfeigned de- representatives in congress, upon the Kspiutions u b v ... tom.ersation at they might produce the effect of loading proposed by the committee appointed to , consraer wm, v.-- of.r Madison,1 ftkHu, some adjustment of their differen- tte subject of their, foreign relat ihCBrUain, so as to enable the govern- carried by a majority ot 10 ,2 1, ih mc ru France; and remarked that an1 the nation to cxtrica e themselves from not lost any ground m the present congress, and be an admirer of the esent'very distressing dilemma, in which the result of the elections io ' rs of pen- ..Mad.on was.knoj n y , teinroHed.- ' gress,-proves, mat 6 ''-'-"7 I tfee entirely Tree ' trom .Madison expressed his firm conviction that votes in the eastern states, war they wm nave a - prpsperity. He appeal '.he.locnmn.ts referred to in the president's creat majority out of the whole nucioer of the any enmity to it general 9P y fi 3e should be seen by his majesty s govern e?rt Congress. .r"f auently spoke with approbation of its institutions, and the correspondences, oetween tneir-mm- rormese .reasons u.u .h i enertrv and spirit, and that he was thoroughly -fence irlvttVvenrhminiHter. respecUment nartv could carry alone with them the lup I't energy ana spiiK. ana 1 ! 7;":: : m;i,.. ;Whe. " nn, le in the measures which they Twtir versed ,.ruwnswy, Vu 15 ucx.n.c ..I jjxinii .iu rnnwi -..v,- r,i v. w. , j-- , . .- q'Lpc- nhcervatinns he made at inav iiuic iui ;ratxJy consuleved ; particularly the strong might resolve to taker and I havealreadj rcph.n lhe e entiments of Mr. ttm.ee of : Mr. Armstrong to the French ed why I believe they will adopt the course of f e P ? jomr . .deti hft knew Hentohhe -12th November, 1807, that it conduct w;hich 1 Ve desenbed ,n t e iore be acknowledged that the United States haa part ot this dispatcn, arising, out u frl "Z wiih anorobation of any thing that was " ". It mnv he mihted whetlier the privations and inconveniences produced by the embargo in this country, will not compel the congress to tawe some hostile measures, in order to have a pretext tvT.;t-x removal nt so trifiin? a nature, however, as to leave it to the belligerents to overlook them, ir they please, and to save the ruling party from the necessity ot going into war measures 01 great ex pense and danger not oniy to u.e.- ywu 111 ty and powerj but perhaps, even to the safety of the union. I propose to have the honor of offerbg some remarks upon this subject in the next ' num of ray dispatches. ' - Sin, Washington) Mar eft 6, 1805.; . - r f kbtiri failure nf anv rfi'crt from them, in :rfmg, hzl Frejicll : sqxe rnmcnt-to - withdraw- unfub't restrictions upon neutral ctsmmerce, pe might have been had by the U. States lowest, el-more activity wLdccistaa. against n but that in the mean time Great Britain sued her ;oi-ders In council, before i,t . was whether the United States would acquiesce ae-trressions of Frantic, and thereby render- imanssfhle tn flintincmish" between the con- of tlieltwo belli ffiexentswho..,h&d e bitted axTfrressions atrainst' the United States. L "J . O .... went also into the arguments, upon that : which are .detailed in his correspondences lie ministers in London and Pans, as pub- H 1 1. .1 ' . r ,1 i n Ua tr.C1. iu me wocumenis rcieiiea lu hi iiv.x-messace-..but which I do not now repeat, as object is-merely to inform you of the result s observations, which was that as the worm k convinced that America had in vain taken means in her, noxver to obtain from Great -and France- a just attention to herrights'j aeutrak'Dower.'hv representations and remon- ices, that sheiVotild be , fully justified in hav .couTie tp hf.stili ties with' either belli gerent, at she; only hesjiated "td do so;, from thedits. ofcbnttndinpr with hoth : but that she roust itivefi even to endeavor. to maintain her riehts lMt thf n nrt".f'Ac. rrMiro in the wnrld .': 'tin. . V" xV Jj .ttbJk .'x T V. X .1. n. ...x..x.. x- 'incr ol them should relax their restrictions oeutnrxofnmercej in which casej the . Unit ies would at once side with that power a ftths other which-miaht continue its agcres- 11" their own particular situauou, aim . -rr-.--; , , . ; , plowed cpl my private rea British and always took up c, Confirmed in T opinions, and conversation, and :pW':'JZ Since the prrival in the Delaware river on t,he 10th instant of the -American dispatch vesstl the Union from ,Ensiland and-France, I have had rview with the President (Mr. ttiadison; e secretary 01 aiaie imi. nuucu unumy beensnnoosed'to be capable of producing, I -will therefore - - . - j . .. - r. . ., sons lor letting conuvmeu . f -7 : nMw Rnd never lost an opportunity will have the honor ot laying beiore you pu e , r ; Zl' tn Great Britaia- portant communications which were maqe to me v "f wilh Mr. Gallatin, by someof the members 6f this government n- see, sir, we could officially, buLWUhsih duce a tavorawe eneqt lowaru a wv..a - ru ' , r r, to be as lasting as Great Britain. u. a ".n nil the rnrmalities if a-reen- 11 n. waa uuunu uj -.. ..x, -x... : December 4.,180.8.., lar system ; and m.gp c oc - - nccemoer vn 0,0 ., , - ; in 0f twenty-four article In the course of several private. Menwi ., rJ I had wit h Mr. X5allaUn, the secretar y SSh Ji,e reconciled to the , oppb- sury,vMr. Smith, secretary ot tne navy, ; - - v v ;ealou. vieW5 of self-interest of conectedfrolnthemthattheirseQttmentsc . ; . wjth those of Mr.. Madison, which I have detailed W SSv of detailing to you the at some lenhinjreceding numoeT en wi unofficial conversation with Mr. dispatches, irsptmg the proper course of con- Wtanco ot s u 0 q lhg feroupdi duct which oueht to btr pursued by the Un ted Gallatin, m order to explain b . .t , iituAtfftn althouch they upon wnicn a uavc lunu.u ...j. ....x..- p ete y aesiructive oi u.cij wmu.v., States, ,n f'J members of the present government f Lieridan vessels were prohibited from going to had differed as to therpropnety ot .ying o -0T;;iill . hel0n also to the next to touch re the cfi meaSuresra , that now they had no othe r meansieiv o tIp. -n uhich theTare-TnwTxrrTo he said believe, determined that Mr. Gallatin will accept wag assuming ancv principle, a's the orders had been hitherto resttd upon tne grounu.01 a nguin ......iVotin .... ivheres Hussia 'and Denmark have i Icuii.nwiM.iV" . . - who expressed their sentiments to me very freely relative to tKe intelligence which Was brouglit by that vessel. . i : The President observed that the alteration in his majesty's orders in council by the recent order w hich had been communicated by you to M r. Pmkneyrsuspnd,Q&-i the ope ration oL.theaLta : as to any duties on exportation granted by the t c 1 . ... a u..:nix t. .. said acts as-iar as relaxes iu niuuH uc's growth, produce, or manufacture of any 'country being' in amity with his majesty," Sec. did not in fact remove the objections entertained by the U. States against the : orders in council in any oegree ; -worthy of notice'. That they, still violated the r neutral rights of this country, as they natJe it ne- cessaiyfor American-ships to pass through 'Eng.- - -land, wh'utb was not only an infringement of the -; independence of the 'United States, but was com pletely destructive ol their commerce, since uic x-.( -J G '.Mat. lsriri rkiicnvira.1 " f x.,xw,, j , v.. T V, ..J . - - tiiat jhe United ;tatrs would enter upon 'Kl!jesof .hostility with great. reluctance, as he tdg'ed tiwtt' thev are hot at 'all prepared for much lcss,.w;t'a a power so Irresistibly. strong jreat'BiMlwvivhtvd tlint nfithitiP" would be 'Sht to be" too oreat a siifnifice to the preserva- wsBfiar.e:' Ror. He-. -!ti "ih-jt-he iA not believe that any Cins, would Ibuhd billing: W submiU.!? l.a K..' .. .. . .v.-1: i-f-wineq the encroaenments upon uic i- . '. ic ntriitsTit tht; unitea states uv mt uc- tnt8r inch" therefore-, "the ulteTnatives were .Euor.VVar.; He confessed that the people 1 ls country were beHnnins? to "think the for "email" nnrl vvrtiiln nerharrs fV n chnrt t.me loncrer. and then' in the event' of no change' taking place in the conduct, ol ihbelliteiTnts towards the United Stares, to en deavor to assert their, rights against both powers : but that if either should relax in their aggressions, they said they would vote lor tailing pan wuu that one against the otner wnicn .nouiu wrnwuv its aggressions - ' . , utions' which were proposed by the committee or r or, rlofinnxi in t heir report to me nousc i .- lUIVift" xix.x. ... . -- - . - . . , oretatltes. and which had already passed in the committee of the whole house,' and would perhaps o law.- upptned to mm to remove suuu ('axis iiiiw , ... two very important groundsf difference, with u. Britain, viz. the non-impcrtation act, as :apphca- ble to her alone, and therrestaent prciii" the sh ns ol tireat liritain.were cxuuu ed from the ports of he United States yhile"those of France weroefjrntted to enter, uuviy "j Ka nnn in Awn IMP. 1W Ulilli UUWCia h.- on the- same footing he did not pretend to say ,ut KVc c.re had heen-irom any y ........'Mtw.fil.- Ke-conteived they might be considered as removing the two great obstacle to a conciliation. you, to be held in -the neves?;ued any decree vjolatiog neutral rights, itry for his unrivalled m complained severely of this, and went over a statesman. There same arguments upon" these poihts which he his present office under Mr. Madison, which was ot n dnnhted. '-'The character of Mr. Gal- tVl V...X. X....X. X.X.X. ...... ., uV.n Tmii-tt he well known to vou, to he held in -me i LUX... ...X.X.. x.x. ' ' . . . greatest respect in.tn.is countij ci..:;. . o Mt..rh!in. I here r . i l.".. n;Mc talents nft a nnauuci oiu ov--" the same argunieius ujjw.i uicsc uii.x. .- cannl thitlk be anjr reasonable doubt entertauv jde -use 'of while he was secretary' of stater, eu irai ie is ncaiuiy x..ju..u ..x... -jD- and seemea to De gicawy uisauiu" dizement, and to tne" usurpations vi.jwni... (. t10 change in the relations pi me He was an enthusiast in lavor oi me icnvi. .Jith the belligerents seemed inceiy to lutionV in the arly periftd of it, but haIongsince Lg-the meeting of 'the. new congress jn May aoanuonea tne iav-jrauic imuu m- .". -ijiext, as he toresees me scnu.. v.i.v ed" respecting it, and has viewed tlief rogress .orhmbarrassment in .which the U. . will- be tlieu Y ranee towarus univexai uuuiii?iu vj- involved in determining,.pon mc Vuu.x.vw ..L.t,.i.-..!. miritne. as it is univer aiiu icgici. How country the estimation ot his majesty s goveuHnc... wiUbecome necessary ; sacrifice of the orders mcouncil and Qt tne im- on venture saded far the good will ot this governmcu. mm thQU nt that non intercourse jaw cam , towards Great Britain' may De womiji . . n the next session pi congress, anu it t at that lime euner jw.;,wi- - , . donidl idea of resistance, or.to determine to adopt , v ision which' they might be expected to maice mcaSures; pf hostility against both ,bciUmitv; France it would be presumptuou y wnrch could not be carried m tne use congr?, f to" calculate, butiam morouguiy there fore are still less likely t be aaoptcu . , . that at that mice it might be oDtainea. whicK wiU consist of a larger number m I have endeavored, oy ne inosi wnw fsWerse'-.To stith a oesperai auu :u..av-. . . . -..:-:x.o yt t.,e views and strenxttli of the . . . '' J., , -.- H-M VUxJuinvu ....x, . ' , - . ,V, IHIK X.VUI3V. ' ' V - . -' jri.fc.r. .... r. ' . . . 1 ls-r uk Utter as ven less injurious to tne - . - ; ) -(- :-2lJ-i.- -- -- , .; ---ii-'Viti'-Af. x.rtfti.x. i: -'--',i':