-i-k. Jvt t.'v - ti'r :i;f a li mit ''.It. .' K tt tr xi' J d JV t.c, v- i & Lis,! vhi' I r,'?i. Put Ci. i' ?'- V! tj"' Ssti." "I csr Jay .icks ntai abav !oin. not:' l'iUJ V .Is. 11. ) dcii if 'est Jot 'oft -1 - .-'' IN. i 1 t coul : CO" , A jlbeilubjectUhTerrtor West of th Perdido. Xat ' feclringj laws now in force m '..ikm ;.tfi Orlpann In irfn'f ta hAvf full tc'wi effect totljejiver Perdi4o,, pursuaht CiJe treaty coiclqded at-Paria on the Soth A lso3 f an4 for otheV purpose,' beiog under Qsideritwri t "and th qaestionljelng oh ita pas IPC IU .... - rjj - .,;. , r. - . ( tlr. Pofr'tfu President I regret 'that' ,the I 5D01 U iriiict ids aJtxioftnjBaOiiiv'and 'them Qtanco"of the subject authorised as to expeet-; W jbsence has deyolted on mpV as a member ,f jhe comnuuee, Rua frepreseniauve pi inaj cctienof the union tnore Immediately interested .hp mihiect before us.to" exDlain to the Senate 'joieof tbeigrouods wbih induced them to make ''M VP01? 'r itiinpaanjt-tt'Ralioo Which j,'laiatiton ibf th?: President f and this bill 'reseots Tortibnsi deratiocr, is whether or not the Uwted States he k od(jtUeo the territory in tottian'i v Before ;'I examine" the : treaty of cession jruia;,.iattd: States' of 1803, the 'jurci'pf our; claim Proit ;mfe, to enquirfe fiat yeits4Dr.Mnian'' in - that 'quirtef to 1800, after she Kad acquired East Louisiana, a awakened ' in - favor f-Sp'ain J AVhat tes West Florida; so called br Great' Brirain after the Spanish overnmem upon , 'our mode r. 1763. roufd well say to lanre. T re-f-fant to vou tind forbearance ? . What has been her what you ceded 10 iiae and cn my accoutvtct atl From thmoroent we became an, independent . a.' tetn" country frpm'the Atlantic states. Sb6 "bat mdc, atj&ffereht periods, and as late as the year 18Q6 In vjolatiotiof her treaty,, of I7351 wittt this country, ijdjrfct propositions" to the Westirn' peo ple ttfmsdc from ihe Ur.ionantl t6 ,accbmpU&6 her objr?r at least attempted tne use ol Ineattrtne claim s . Jllfi tijeaj & xt addressed tte"S?nate as fuL qondi. tl VMriPriCt ' Thibili uncfet: ""consideration - ' ' least so much .as V can i'regrant consisteut with the trcatiesf " I have since, made ; and thi SQema, to be the- plain and evident, meaning rf ihe instru-i ment. If the parties had meant lo confine the, retrocession to the limits of the cession, made by France to Spain, of Louisiana west f ths JMissis-n sippi i, including the eland of NewtOiTcans, they wpuld have used he same description, They woyld certaioly have stopped aher sayingtSe e.ic lent ittUep had In the hands ot SpainrIut to sble chairroaii "pf the committee" wha "reM" i-S.iu',jrwx wi;icnfvg os j,hu meaning qitne par tiiesthy pv sayamTVuch as' it tf.owfd lftet,twtreikVies',sdbsequ qterd into te1 twe.eJ) dtsafnTand otheftates.T. A ISpdtti bad nef er entered intd ny treaty, wfth regard to the western bbundary'f Lcmisianai and as the only treaties to which thtoarties could have alluded, was that, of 1783; with Great Britain send of '171' 5 most ftupfj" What haslTeenher cpndUgt since we acpjuco iuuisrna i it i tm . correcuy ' iij- contams ' in efrectK4t.r leans thef. Mississippi -cond exttnj.hT : forporalted'tl -teijritory; -f s These pro 6rtant proviuoni.''l'hii,firs,t ' jtes vrith the Territory of Or. . ipt Aft Florida feaSrpf tf, , i as the nver Perdidofthese? ".arjart of the province, ttiug jn is yjaturajly in?oIy9) twp 'que j; 4 en!? wi uqiiea;statfc3 nave a formed. otifftrffin4 hVti who have tiXfeniftefolU fJwilrrwhether it would be'ex good title.ta U.at. paT 5th'e province "deribed ex btvSomnderefJ, and enormous duties feaye been to. takt'passesV7i''rce j': imposed ' on "our vessels navigating 'the Mile Be fore 4: propeed tp: Ctmsider these ueg leave, Mr. Presi with the United Sfetes, both relative to limits on toe east side of: the-Mississippi, it is perfectly clear that the contracting parties meant to com Under alt" Ihsc hrovocations, suflicient to have drawn upon tbeju from almost any other nation an open declartion of war, our' government,' in fluenced by that pacific policy which has hitherto regulated itscours towards, foreign nations, ex ercised patience and forbearance And since the Jate revolution in Spainr I believe ,U will not be i 'fil bet weert" France, Spain and Great Bfi- tr ua;.miuojew; nowever, Dei;eve fMiere ij no coiitraricty 'opinion .before this period im'dahaextendedeast' cif the riyer Mississippi to louiaana 'the river Perdido France . and Spaing by the treaty of ;t IV, establishiid this boundary between Inorida, now called East Florida arid! Lousiana. jThelncient limits of Lousiana have been so fut !r, ascertained by the documents laid before Con jress at ilifl'e,rent times, and the numerous diu-' jcussions the subject has undergorjef that , I should Jofilr wastjthe lime of thq Senate in attempting to the Senate tp'one additional,' evidence, that this river was the ancient eastern boundary of this prbvince7Mn Smollet, in his contiouatioo of rfume'S histftry of England, states the answer of .Bndsh govemmentftoithe proposition made by 'France for (peace earjy iu the.-year lf9) From uliich appearsthatvFrance then claimed f the ri?er PeMido as ' their ''easraliffiitr'.ncir does this ;fac appear o hav.be 0iVeMje44e35iiish jaMstci?; ' )it ippearihat previous to thr war which :terminatedT ipu'. 76,, Louisiana cdmpre )aixA ljriB'rlexdutUry watered by the Qistsf4U( :1ts''(ra6'ches:-"I find" it stated in i pamphlet-published inNew York, that France by a SeCret. cession contemporaneous wuh the 'treaty called the family-compact "bf '17 jl , trans jferrcd; this country to '-Spaing to induce hereto .become her ally vin the ; war against G. Britain ; auouga i. can una no-tywence to support tlwttatement :'etihe4etept of thar wari'preyious ti period 'render's it alf least probable It will 'rtrsembered' thatthe arms of Great Britain bl triumphed py'er those pf France both by, sea M hnd , France had lostj Canada ' and a great aoraberof herships of Var Spain was not then '1 in the .war," and, to induce her to become it seems .probable that France,1-under . the Ptssmejof adverse Jortune, ceded .to her, this province." . But-as thi3 statementdoes- not xorres Fld vvith the documents on our, tables, ,nor the toy of pUiersw ho; haye examined this subject, c are compelled to take it for grantedTiatthe ttirjn ol west Louisuvna, with the IslancL.of jfew-lhleans toSpain, ajid.of east Lquisianu, since r";H i tuiiua, i,o uneai-untain, were mjaqe pretended that this governm has manifested spy disposition to throw pur weight into the scale of France against the Spanish party. Our govern. prehend whatever, of. Louisiana on the eat sTdeftnent has taken ho step fri relation to West Flbri of the Mississippi Sjjaifr had a jitle to. lf the ! da until compelled by a regard to our own safety. construction J contend, for is not admitted, then the "executive iii the proceeding under consider. the latter.parts of the 4escripiion will hare iio ef 1 tion has used language the most conciliatory, and on the ce o Ins proclamation given a pledge that this government will at any time enter into ami cablenegociatiqns on the' subject of our claim to mis itrriiory, n il snail DC Qisputen. . VlustiS subject leads usj? before the, treaty anoVj feet, tontrarytto a 'sej.tUd principle of 'law and uuTUTuyiu sciiici iiiai every pari ur.au lnstrumcfti ihallUaye eitect, If i can by any reasonable, cpn struction. T-o strengthen the ponstruction1; for vhich I insist it may not be amiss to consider the views of. th" French government at the time this .treaty of S' lldefohso was made. They no doubt acquired this province with an intention of hold ing itj and it was art object cf national pride to regain as much jis practicable 'of the colonies which had been?Jost-Under the old government." Besides they could not he ignorant pf the impor. lance of East ""Louisiana, now West , Florida, to the security of Kew-Orleans, ahd as the practi cability of obtaining it at that time from Spain cannot be doubted, the presumption is irresistible that the cession was intended to embrace it. I had intended to have ascertained at the Depart mept of State the ground of objection with Spain to the urreoder of that country to" the United states, Uv nave no: made jtuejenquij-y, aorjot however lihtnk It withcult tg account for -the con T idenf. JoT-ad ve rtto what m a v be considered a prelimirtary question,'. I refer to''; the authorijy oi the President of the spited State's ' to issue his protlamati6n')and thi accompanying"' Tvv' orders of the ,7th of bctobeV; lasi, dir ectiig : tje I-V forcible ; occupation of that .territory t' deeWV v it material to consider this point.VbeCause,' f e "j. proclamation were unauthorised, then' Coogres ; v are not' committed by it, "rior vc xYiiy bouud tq C'v give it their sanction- - ; ' T" . y v II the President had any authority p Issue lUi - s proclarnaiion, thai authority must have-'beeh cfe, rived either under the constitution of the tJnited 'f , , States or under some tactor acts ojpongresst , " The Prpsideut has no power whichdpea not prq ;ti ceed from one or the other of these sources?! Thj . constittitiott has iyenobnigre3Sthf exclusho juwcr oi niaiwing iaw anu . ueciarmg wr 10 ina - J nvi v n. u.iin ui noai piausiuic iuuiivjs uiyu .. rrcsiacm uic powers oi executing tne laws oj. tne "v which this bill as. an original proposition might be Union,- The povers of the one are' legfslative.vTi' suppartedleriti rely independent of. the cession, of the other executives The Question thtn wmiH v after she had sold Louisiana to the United States and received the price stipulated, secretly advis ed'Spain not to surrender it, having at that time Iformed the project, whjch she is now attempting to execute, ot acquiring, thety hole -Spanish em pire ; her interest-was- therefore ihdentjfied with that of Spain, and she was nodoubt willing to u nit.e with Spain m giving the most limited instruc tion to the cesion of the United ' Stalest , I tind that Congress? by an act passed on jhb 24th of rebruary, 180, have solemiy assertetl our ngn Spain is indebted tp us a large amoupt for. spolia tionsy committed ohtour commerce ; and as there is no government at present towards which the ordiqary proceeding can be pursued to obtain pay-, ment, could we not, on the principle of the a tachmeritlaw, as an- act of self justice, seize on this territory to secure satisfaction ? . As this measure has been. emphatically called an act of robiigry and war, it may not be amiss tp consider the political state ..of the Spanish colonies in relation jo the Spanish government in the hands of 'he Junta, and thenew dynasty about to be es tablished by Bwiapartei It may.be said, perhaps; that the late alienation of the Suanish crown and the -Involution ni ; Spain f have dissolved ihe tie ductot Spain. VMr ce'cture'llitiai; Fratia.i?ich ciOTpte French arms shall be successful in Spain, of which I believe few entertain much doubt, and the Jun ta shall be - driven from Old Spaiaioany of thjs colonies, their political character,; must cease, and they can no longer claim the exercise of Tany jurisdiction or "Sovereignty over the ColQn'res The colonies are not bound together by ; any po litical bond uncorinected with the" mother Coun try ; they are subject to the mother souhtry ; but the momenC she is coisquered, they are at tolhis '"territory, and authorised; thd President to liberty: to provide for themselves, unless, indeed, take possession of ity and to .establish V port- of j the' entpef r of France or kingJoseph can claim ehtry kc. '''on. iheaMobil, .yjijeneyer 'he should ' themi France, in an official expose, ahd king . ri i . . j . r i i l. u i ... : i . v. .1 i j .1...;. same .time in the vear '62." It is. well 6wn, thatv, France 'ade' the cessipn to Great Britairt he instance and for the benefit of Spain, to enable- ler,F;wi(hi;he . cession of Florida, now "lied aStjFloiida, to obtain restitution of Cur the;jyhol-ujna, .not conquered by reat-Brit"am, Tnay,: with Dropriety, Jbt 'saicl- to ve been given upj or ceded y to Spain; ? Let U ermine thar part of thc-tfeaty ofpcs'sioh- be? , ther pnited jState'i "and France., of 4 803, hicli -relatei to3; this, question-;. By that ireaty, ? .acquired Louisianai as fullr., and in the Same jAMitier'as it had -beeB acquired7 by France from Spam, jn virtue of theltreaty of St. Ildeforiso of 1st of pctoheri80p. f By this treaty Spain T'M?futna..;to l7rance tk with the mu extenlit then had' iikhe hands of Spain, and ;fi h naa wnen France possessed it, and such as u, iuier iqe cronies suasequeuyy enier- betweenpajrtd-other, stales; .hat extract from iibat treatyis correct cannoj)e retrocede,uit this, treaty , has,,, I l',tv5 Mcasloned mbre doubt-with regard to the; r-t-niinj of tliis. cession ;than any expression con- 3. U, ;but cannot-wheih the -subject .is-pro p)t exatDjiicd have.tfi& effect contMed .fof. f.m that'ai" lVaWw'cd;ed to Spain, iiv 175, W yvesf of, t'heV Aljs&issippi incKiding the '.wu ot .Wew-Oi leans-i the Avoid retrocede must Mwfftef.s'ioti'-io what:1iai heen previously ce-Jrafk-e to SnainU-but if itjie IJue. that the "Pie 6,f Louisiana east and west of the AJ ississ'tp H ITU r.1 J 4- 4L-' .i .- ii.V' .1. 5t Loyisiana afterward ceded by-, France i ' ueeTght'th'roprieijr, boused with grant to-Spip iiT, 1.761, ) W 'WiU not be denied the cession 6f east deem it expedient. he' time whepy and circum stance j undej which.this te"p shoiild. be taken, were submitted to the discretibrt of .the Executive I may J&e permitted tp ask why, if we had no title to this ienitory, the President ws urged to takC possession by force, andtendX-njb tlojng it If my recollectibu is accurate, all parties agrtcd we ought to- have the country ; tlity only ciifered asHto'lhf rmodeTof "tquirmgt4ePt'esdentj influenced by that policy yhich- has hitherto guid ed the present administration ot avoiding mak'Qij this nation a party m the present European war, in i the exercise ,oi the discretionary power, vested in him by that act, dicTnot "think proper to seize upQn it bjpTbrce,;,b.ut to waiifor the occurence of events to throw it into, Our hands without a Strug i . 1 - , f' u glcv . i : '- ' .. , ; . - The Expediency of taking possession of this feN ritory cannot, it appears to me, admit of a donbt. If the President, had refused or hesitated to meet the wishes ;of the people of' West "Florida by ex: tending to. them the protection of the - American gQyernmen'l,' and ihey' had souglit ecui ity in the arms of foreign power, what should "we have heard ? He rould have-been charged with imbe cility "and fear: of 'incurring11 responsibility. He would haVef beenSd enounced as unworthy of the station his country had assigned him. ; Iet it be remembered that the Orleans country Is our. most vulnerable partre mote from our physical force-i a climate mpre" fatal to our people than the sword of a victorious'enemyand that an-enefny in pos session cj West Florida ' CanT with great facility cut off New Orleans from": the Upper country. - If tneioriunate ". moment ,iiaa noj.Deen seizea,"yiis province ivpuld have fallen into the hands of a for 'tgn poWer, .or if time had been given for intrigue to mature itself another Burr plot would proba bly have risen from the' ashes of (he first, more formidable to the integrity of this empire- Burr, like irchimedes, fancied that if he had a pjace to stand uponaplace beyond the jurisdiction of the United States to rally hia followers he Cquid over (unVt .9Ternment. He has, it J.troevilcd; from th.p ; frowns of airmdignant country But he was,; not ' alone, Let ity opportunity bv.' afforded and i thousand Burrs would throw off the mask andnoint theii.arms acamst; the i federal Union. Oriraiubiecrrof iuth interest it ioUld hate been enniina lio'na) aMty'b-ljaye;4tat(.i was supried to Tf'tao G real-Britain hv France :wai ati the hear ihis'TprocedurC prohounce.a a rpbbery,. and ' ailc;aud for the benefit f: Spain jr Spain' in I making'-of wati Wh'y-.ahould : our. aynigathtes be' fcegm to $a)lt.s talk, more Joseph, by' pit)clanatioii, have declared their willingness that tne colonies should- become inde pendent, provided thef do not connect themselves with Greaf-Bruain. If r ranee therefore shall, which is probabfe, conquer the mother country, we" are fully; authoiised by her pubhC declaration to the world tp acquire, with the consent Of the inhabitants, not only west but east Florida, Cuba, orHanyrrbvtrjce-1 expedient to, connect iW'uh the United States. This bill may be justified, independent of title, by the law of s,elf preservation. Have we any as surance thaf tle Spanish government will maintain their iientralityrin-this ' territory if we should be involved' In aVar.j with either France or Great Britain ?- Can they, or will they, prevent ; the march of an enemy 's fojc.es through lhat territo ry into the United States f. No, sir We have every jreason- to expect the contrary. Consider ing how vulnerable we are from this territory, its present' statei "and the aspect of our foreign af fairs,' it appears to me that we - are authorised to take; possession of it as a measure pjf national se curity." It Jnay be objected that taking the hro perty jofershy ' "force tends to relax the mo rals of rthe people, by destroying that criterion of right and wrong, the-observance of which is necessary to the purity of purfepublic ; and ram ready to admit that we ought proceed ..upon this principle tf necessity and expediency with great caution. ann never to. act upon it hjut; ;in extreme and evident cases. -J Had-, we a colony on the coast.of England " or France-.' similarly situated, we know they"woUld not hesitate.' When we reflect that'our propetty is seized by almost every nation that the lavsnd uftageso nations are disregard'-. ea by nearly U htm),pe.)that.thetr conduct has been-lately markedjwitha degree -of perBdv and rapacity unexampledln-the historyf the'civil ited world j that they have i.U fact become States of Barbaryy if ..appears to me that that We )Ught not, as Regards them, to ibe over nice or squei mish upon questions of this sort.'ShaU we .sit neritlji(ts folded ufinl Ihe tneroy is T at our gates If W waste o,ur .titrie in discussion and refining abstract questions' pt right and Wrong we;- shall lose .our independence and we , shall de tertfclto lose 'ii J llW hoped this bilFwould have passed wkhbut much .debate, j; I know , the people are tiredy-JC jorlg peeches and documents -Tbis fondness for jengthy discussions has iven drawn upon Congress tie reproaches of the. ladies they" question.thtn wouU y De, wnemer me riesiceonn jssumg, tnis,proc- lamation has not - transcended the hinitj of hia L powers.' i . u u f, , J&it, wjiat is the nature ancj Unport of ihspr,0CTl lamatioti ? In my humble penception bptji legi lation and war. Warpecause it directV the 'pe ly o.ipaUon of this temtoVy-by a military'forV V: The regular troops of the United' States ore or ' dered to march, and, If tbeyhoqld not beibund;,' aucijuaic w tne oujcci, mc governors pi me MjC' i' , ; leans and MiSslKippi vlerritofica , are irecteij tA, : csll out the militia of their reipective tetritopipsf J to co-operate witlrtbe' regular "forces.,; But W"- " stajl be to!ldlSjr,'that the tWdeht jn issuing t this proclamatibrj has' taken the c'autdritbjdire'ct -tliit Uk Case ay, pahicuV-t fnrlrf sj luif. V , shouldp remain in possession of a Spanish force. , ,the command jngf officer ispotlp proceed etji? ploy, force against it; but to make immediate re :- pert thereof to the Secretary ot State. Suppose a v ; while your commanding officer is making his reV vM port the Spanish lorce sallies tout and makes ar-" attack uptn your-army, or , suppose a Spanish j army, witn governor l oich at tnejr head, stpuld V, marcn irom easi t lonua wun ine yipw oi repel.' . ling the invasion of this 'territory ? W&tare p S Governor Claiborne and hi? army to do J- Ground f their arms and surrender, themselves prisoners of - "f i take lo their heels ? These are the only alterna I tives presented they musteither 6urrender'rui)" ' or fight. " And who .will doubt which of ihes4"'al-''.'2--yif ternativesThe gallantry of an American armjr V' wopld impel them""to thusje.' Sirt a confjict-. would be inevitable,' , ' . V ' , "I ' " "But while the President has beep so affecte'dJ cautious. .with '.'respect to a Spanish force, hehaj,' overlooked ' altogether the contingency f "es tance on the part pf the revolutionistsr.'Thes)? patriots it would seem had called jPconventiofj r and issutd a declaration of independence, andriorl! it appears' have formed and established a rejulafi povernment which is organized ajid in operatipn i If these proceedings are. not all sham, the Jlejv 'J !, ritory in rjuestion is now ift pesstsion of a people ' claiming to'be sovereign and independent ' and j it suppogable that this people can behave spLjJ as P tardly as to submit without a struggle--tp the hi- ' cursion of , a hostile ariny ' whose avowed obje'ey ; is the corvquesl.of the country -d the subyersicn ; of its conVtitUtion tc independence? And here per ' : mit me to remar'that the. style and tenor of tbq c letter' from iSecreta;ypf State of'Jthe (sih'oi Koy.', I S 1'Cr, to .oveynbr Holmes, in answer to th'( letter bf the' jPresidentpf the convention praying ; ) the irognUipli - and -protection of, ftp lUonlte, States? are nbtidniirably, calculated 'to ive 'a weicomeffeception to the American arjmyk r-jtV " then resistance should heofferect'qp t the' part of the' corstitutioUalist, what is your army , to jdo, The. orders epptain no provisq in Ihjs" partjcj!ar. ' requiring'that ' the fac: should be re'ported ip llie;"' Department of State; but their cearjntent js, tia); fotc.e should be employed. Under such cjii cum-1 stances is'k jiot to be - expected that this nopastri v of the lxtf iitive . will result In war t jlj- jtnpt : be. expected, that either the Spaniards pr the pn.:.i yentionaljsts will attempt to repel iffa palpable InV; 'Crmglm;eiiiiapcm .iheit rights and territory );' u .. : ; But, sir, this proclamatipn" iiJjDoonfy.a.r,"' lutif is ad ac:t of legislation too. It aRp'e-ses .tb : territory ih.question to the'. Orleans territory :,it,' ereatesa gmfirnor ; it enacts laws, and -ppropri.' ates money Jt' gives. Jo the Governor bJ ihe'Dr.-'-; , laah v Terfitbryl the. autliontis'Mid functipn's o ver thi s particular territory v h ich he" posse spes, by ' ; virtue -of-.toffice as governor, -and makes. an. ajf-jropriationof a sunj' of money, npt exceedinsr iwciuy inousana uoiiars , i nis proclamation is scb stahti'atly the" bijl under discussion, extepl;' that' it v goes! much further. !v ' 'r ' r' r attion.; -'-vCi-'Sfi'f ? :ToJe continued in our ne?t) ' 1 V ' -.,'-' v ","-.'"',. .-;.:.-,,:. - . - ' ' . ' -i . i. ' - . . ' v - - - ' K .t-.. . - . . . . - -, .... A -.'-' 1 -x r ,p