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' "' V.. I r ! RALEIGH, N. C. -PUBLISHED (ttEEKLT) BY LUCAS AND Ai"H. BOYLAN, pS g2 40 CHUT Jk ADtAHCB, assail'.' VcL. ltf. FRIDAY, NOVEM No. 817. .: BBR Public Docurnrnu. DOCUMENTS .:Vvf Att9gt. if Pretidtnf, to CUfmtt Atv. 5, Ull.. u a aax&si t stt. roTca. Juy 23, 1811. I have the honor to be, with the highest consid- nations will enable her to extend her influence, she of Berlin arid Mlan which iriJeedi the spectli in . t i i . t i ' . -1. .. i k .. ii 4 : - i i - i, .... v . : i . i i f mKVS ii a vnuic w utuii at wumiiuics wen its lit- ucsiuti uciaics iw Ml 1UC iUnU4llicr)lal lUWS Ol diViduals that they should possess articles however .the Jrrruth ernpirei ffei,!ft tVw 4.t falthe rtrUution f IjA&mj bam, uw qrt'wws ha t2f lldimcd, in hi& iw Uaitclhtntes c are i tt edb A bet ; rvt violate the .f-4a Iaoc vf bet.vdk:s tnef cannot .r tM tXvintt of Grta'lii.' . n to revoke .k MrchAOt tStt vpoch t unh the rtvoca. tn tv Ue fi!ac. Hd that duly ;4NNi k i thn that those cir. ' .aeafcCtV im!ia tfcer are, which !ue ex. ', ermlion, sir, your most obedient humble servant. To the Honorable ; MR. fOSTKR TO Mr.. MOWItOE. lVaftiH$lwt July 26, 181 i. SIR, - 1 have the honour to rective your letter cf Ju ljr 23, in answer to mine of the 3d and Uth insp'which you will permit me to say were not merely relative to hit majesty's orders in coun cil, and the blockade of May lNi06, but also to the prtkident's proclamation of laalov. and to the lortkcnuent act. of congress of jMarch 2, as well ( tu the just compLints which his' royal high Jnm, te prince regtnt, Tad commanded me to mako to your government, with respect to the proclatnation, and to thai act. . -If the United States' government had expect eil that 1 should have made communications which would have enabled them to an accommodation Great Britain on the ground on which alone you say it was possible to meet u, and that you mean i by tlut-expEtsbion a departure horn our system ! of defence airainst the new kind ot wanare sun acquired which may have been once rhe produce of English industry or of the British 60il. A gainst such an .abominable and extravagant pre tension every feeling must revolt, md the honour no less than-the interest of Great Britain engages her toopposeit. v Turning to 11. course of argument contairied in your letter, allow me to express my surprize at the conclusion you draw in considering the ques tion ot priority l eTative to the , i rench decrees or 1 do not, I confess; conceive how these avowals of the rulet ofl'rance, can b said tohecf.n-patu ble wlth...the repeal of his decrteS irt repf ;t to tlwj ' United States. I Jf thf United States are jyrepartij to insjst oft- ihe sacrifice by Great Enrinn of the ancient and established ruhs of tnaritime war practised by her, thenlndeed they may tivotd tW' operatiori of the ..French .decrees, but otherwise, ' accofyjiqg to this document, it is very clear Uut they are still subjected to them, - . The decree of I'critainbleab is confessedly found ed on the decrees of BerKn. arid Jllilffn, dated the Mill juciwocf, i ov, nuu- proTes ineT conunuea British orders in tuncil. It was clearly Droved thatlhe : .blockcie $Uv 1806, was maintained! by an adeduate tiatral i'orcei and therefore was a i blockade ibuoded on just and legitimate principles, 1 existence. The rtKV pf the French minister 4 and I have riot heard that it was considered in a; Dec. 8, anhmmcijiE the perseverance f France in ' contrary light when notified as such to you by Mr- Secretary Fox, nor until it suited views of France to endeavour to have it considered otherwise: Why America took up the view the French government chose to give of it, and could see in it grounds for the French decrees, was always matter of aston ishment in England. her decrees ts still further in cchfirmatiori of themi and a reperusal of the letter '.'of the minister of Justicei of the 25th last December, confirms me in the jhference Idrey from it, fcr, otherwise w1iyt should;that ministerjmake thclrospectiVe' resfcjK ; ration! of American vessels, takfcn after theTiltt of November, to be a consequence of the noh-tmpor. tatioti ahd not of the French revocation.' If the French government had been sincere, thy would Your remarks on the modiKcations at various I times of our svsterrfof rfctaliatioii will reonii-f th- t W W'rVWt"" . . . - - . ' 1 J --.'J - m - - psi fit d.j riMnnnni 01 prac 1 ,1U !;r.lre. 1 am at a loss to discover less rei.lv from' the circumstance of the orders in 1. have ceased infrinoinp on thtrtpntrit n'o-htnf J Hm1m I acii dcre. nigh: uot ( rom what soe they .cpuld have derived "those! council .of Apiil 1809, having superseded them . America, after the 1st of November- That they jm KCKKi ttxpec-iatioos ; certainly not from the correspbn- j all. They were calculated for the avowed pur-! violated them, however, after that period, is noto- jly t mUtk caa lie taken ol this sub i4cnCe i,ctWttn the Marquis VVellesley nd Mr. j pose ol softening the effect of the original 01 dersious. ;4 ; . - xour government seem 10 let n oe unaerstooq that an ambiguous declaration from Great Britain, i'u.kney. ion neutral commerce, the incidental efltct of those 1 Bicrre the pinlul tKrprttv- it the inr.ovg. , oca U m f iuciplea and utagts herctof rc f4w lt art 99 afSrtt-liy C0ntenU . lJ. 1. Krr,-ht fnrwntfl liv vrMl to show lhat : retrrctted bv his mjiestv'fi PlOVfl'nmftnt ; hut lipn si niilar trt llint if tht- t'Vpnrh miniitor. vuMiM hav4 mf- kttcn f Ihrjtf and 16th inst. and;bi. decrees, of Beilio and Mdoii are repealed, I it 'was found tl ,4 neutrals objected to them they been acceptable to them. But, sirV;is i it'COnsis-l V pc.kxa bj four ferniem prescm jjist enter into an explanation upon some I were removed. j tent wiih the dignity of a nation that respects itself "i s to the principle of retaliation, it is foundcil 1 to speak, in ambiguous language r Thife:subjects ; he just and natural right of self 'defence a-i and citizen of either country would in the IndStf 'T a m m'tth tutht wHhtS tf the United SiJtcs, tx A ef tht JuTu!!. whkh have bcui points on Wnicn you nave evidently roisappre-i as tiended, for I will not suppose you could have j-on 'the just iMi 1 f.rff w council. 11 j wisned to misinterpret ray meaiing. gainst our enemy; if France is unable to enforce 1 be the victims as many are already, in aU ppbabjL' v v maUawillW iMtntale We calamities j Alld flst j,, ,.egarti to the blockade of May, her decrees 011 the ocean, it is not from .he want lity, who from a roiscontruction of the meaning" wf wwm ln i5Ctniuiv iucMia ianf. I ,nn:i atmv lhat Tarn w ho Wv at a Iohr trot Will, lor she -fin lorces Ihem whrfVrr .h ran nf ihc 1-i-rnr.h mwernmpnt. hav hevn ltrT tntn pmmt tC2t ct. v.dcl tbey.aS(tstain withju ou. rrom wjlilt mtK 0( my leittr the presi-'do it : her threats art only empty wltcre her nowerl rriust imprudent speculations. Such conduct Ucnt has drawn the unquarjira lrnarence, tnat is 01 no -avail. vvoula not be to proceed pari passu with trance in j -tUi'f Mt inttuM.s tl.r deiity of their sta. . U ui. tttm spct MiviiUT8 from oeu--S llf UmCI Wa tWm ia tiie fU enjoyment ( JUmt rkt. Thf present war ha Uca opprcs , t teil ts4t, by its dumion, simI by '3 Jtivlamm wh.ib in has spread ihioughout I hMthlf raipirMH tUv it should as m a n-Ukr chs.:er. By the revo A f te"ffK.h rtlivr tahrn thty respect t C : J ,! rv 4 it UtttUd SUUS, t mtmc' ts n tdk t ,rct that roost uesira 4 tm tNiiu Let Great Britain fol ; ' tsm?l Th rrouvl thus rained ' svr-m c i ifl hf the CQecrrin and p -v irr itM f aJ prues, and vhatever s pa 1 -A. . mj&mt- m ta advtfiuc of (dieted bunum ' -.-;"7" ". j ' '. j lfrvrt9 i'tfire another part cf vaar lct'e' I 54 "- which -d m a roorr favora j "iis rh'- ptexdvkn 'cctired whh great ta tw mn.'m&.'ri that should the k c3c3 ef i 7 rv5k--t. the , block. Ju i. f the far f;i.;ig ye. r wmll eels-: t .MAmt atf Uickadr tliich should riaii$ Ue itsl. should br duh niified , I 4Jt:uadl t aa. jwka4ie ibrur - - This frank 1 should the orders in council of IBXtf be revoked, In the view you have taken of the conduct of the blockade of May, 1806. wrul.l cease with America, in her relations with the two bellige thm. It is most material that, 01 this point, no rents, and in the conclusion you draw wiih respect mistake should exist between us. From your let; to the impartiality of your country, as exemplified ter it would appear, as if on the question of block-' m the non-importation law, 1 lament to say I can , jadv wouiu probably disappeare, I never meant not agree with yuu. - That act is a direct measure 10 authorise such a conclusion, and I now beg against the British trade, enacted at a time when most unequivocal) 10 disclaim it. The block- all the legal authorities in the United States ap ade which Ameiica had so uaexpectedlv con- peared ready to contest the statement of a reDeal Ir.ected wi her demand for a repeal of our "or-of tKfc French decrees, on which wns founded the j den in ecru it'll , Qreat Britain had made tbe con-' president's proclamation of November 2d, and con cession rtquired of her ; .if after all that has pass-, sequently to dispute the justice of the procla eaonine sunjcci. auer me asionisnmeni ana re-; inanon useii. (fr i -jf hi majesty's government at the United ! - You urge, sir, that the British government pro tstehaving .taken up the view w hich the French . mhed to proceed pari passu with France in the rovr nrru:ni presenteoY of our just and ligitimate j repeal of her edict. It is to be wished you could .principles of blockade, which are exemplified in the . point out to us an y step France has taken in tne blockade of May, 1806, the whole ground taken j repeal of hers. Great Britain has repeatedly de bt his majesty's government was at once nban-clared that she would repeal when the French did dotted. Wlien I had the honour to exhibit to you j so and she means to keep to that declaration, my instructions, and to draw up as I conceived,) I have stated to you that we could not consider according to your wishes and those of the presi- j the letter of August 5, declaring the repeal of the dentra statement of the mode in which that block- French edicts,, provided we revoked qurorders.jn adc ot May, 1806, will not continue after the re-! council, or America resented our not doinc so, - - " - - 'MI. .... . L I. 1. . . .. ....... . . 1 . I. . -V ..... I. n . ... U. . .... . . IL ... L . , v '- v iiiuti'i ouau viini. m iu auawnr u ur me n"-"i micw uioi n c- luuiu jiui i.. lucil uuiect was -U M't adopted by thr prince reg t ? vim fwpsn . teems la remme a m. tcri. i.i44tl f aa aetavaoiUtton of dilT sect4l appticaUoii of a suMii ient naval force, ahd , tlii f:irt of itS heincr rntitiniiprl nr not. will Ka rencea bei..,-r t.- :,, ' .i.. . sma ar.caijxfa DUa fAla xA bv the " " " , - , ..cw ui, .- " cjU tl orders in cwm 0, will, i mllcr wh,cU l8fce,u,n,1; pr; senled n. a "c'Iiat'7 s4 m infmi fan. produce an immedia one of the obstacles to a complete under zmmrm t.h ai Jx la h ,n !;nding between our couutr.es can be removed by , , - . , .. - evidently while their system was adhered to, in all its rigour, to endeavour to persuade the American government thatjhey had relaxed from it. and to induce her w proceed in enforcing the submission of Great Britain" to the inordinate demands of France; It is to be lamented that they have but too well succeeded ; for"the United States' govern ment ' appear to have considered the French de claration in the sense in which France wished it to be taken, as an absolute repeal of li?r decrees, fatr tested in the presid lit for that UnUcd, f Jrther - ,r rrfrrtnee to lhat blockade when they can be ms- i kUh RraiKtUrifIhavrC(nGn. 'lint ot tne ortirs, ana -l may iis-.lr.- ..... communicate this to my government, it will un- -.. t- ' .1-' . A.. . doutitt'dtv be very satisfactory : bit T bei-cfistinct. ' without advertirie to the conditional terms whir.h t'-B,wiflijiiii uniiea ?uairs nave lost . t . '. . , , ; 1 v ,H af th other tery serious can t fi JT''8 m,a,de any ackuowlccTgunt accompanied it. sal cawlM, an ahkh they have received ibe; blockade would cease merely 1:1 conse- ... But-you assert that no violations of yonr neutral tkfe, ati Utitt the conciliatory noli-! cluuence oFf evor ation ot the orders in council r rights by France occur on the high seas, and that aUs tWn.dsi has thus f.r separated the! T" U1deS Kf U vi"Cse causc .here j the.e were all the violaUonslluded to.irr.the act faiths nSsta m ccil from othe; and be-' , a,dt(lua wrce applied to m.mtam it. of congress of May 18 10. I readily believe in- -a fru)t to Ihwta 'ethera oup commu.' FU,V1' BU you ajj-1 uwu uiai, Mt mw a .a.c, uuv i wiiig 10 i ttra af rra Bfitaia. and JHi-mllt di " asr isi1 ti Uiird 8:atewh'ich induced . -natt ttHvmtcrial a diuTcul j hi anti in relation to a repeal of the, or -a ctit X- anil leaH to a more favorable fur. v jo af the rctoainirifi: diflkulties on '- -V. 4 as4 that the lant ages of an r adttMrait f ever? questbn, depend f '"twta the lw countrie. will be een bv f 3tffcfaBt, An the tame, tight, aitfcey are, ?-ftae laitrJ States t hTf tie boortvbe. Ice, Tlar Tn hUVP micrnttmprl mi &rtirlo r mv lha iivif-i t--r-l T"v r IKa llriticK novn 4 K o tU.. 0af tVy MHHif nrOSDCCt w ujwhjvi aij iviuj-r-ty 111 Jiu.j s'Vf jiivuiiuLiaiiw- jl vbjw ui imii iai j isiaiif ic &t tLiiifr. W:,k tJu lc PKecr my letter can 1 discover-any men-: are so, when scarce a ship under the I rench ilacr , um 'iroe, wun success, tt ..: r .,,: A i, .. . . .,. ..A . tlio aim . l- ,f .e.-.!"" uun9 tuc ijuiv. ui vireat nruain, can vemuie to sea wiinput Demcr iukcii, u is noc ib aaur liberal view of theL,, ua :f..i . ..,.:. , .u- .u.: r uuj Riuiui.aul lc III VUUl itJIUUUIUIHili J lIldL IIICJT lliunc IIU '.WlUiCSa 11 I. J MtS MONROE. a. tairta to at, xoxaot. r '-: .ft'aSr, July U, a Xe-anal1'ta ascertain distinctly from -lte ta rr e of yesterday's date, whether it iW- .?f ,t,i.ittion of the president to rest jr-r-'. i-vf rUal rrplof the-Berlin an i " ic'.K, wiiirji you believe hat taken place-, p ' rvawMi in the conduct of France kwHf i?te nlion hetwt;en this country and ' &it.m, hy cxcrrisin'his power ' ot sus th i?prrs'ton of the non-importation act, me to repeat tn question to you on this f Couir.cd in my letter -of ihe ;Uth inst. - 'ft-1 pri-ccci to nuk.; any cqmmcnts on your iu, V . . : ..-' genernment. There is no new pretention setup by his majesty's government! In answer to ques tions1 of yours as to what were the decrees or regulations of France which Great Biitain com plained of, and against whiqh she , . djrecjjS-Jicr ra tajiatory . measures I brought disiinctly Wo your Tiew.tbe Derlin and- Milan decrees, and you have not denied, because, indefcd you could nor, that the provLions of those decreess1 were new measures of war pn the part, of France, ac knowledged as such by her ruler, and- cdnt rary to the principles and usaecs -of civilized nations. that jthe present war has been oppressive beyond examoiecoy its duration, and the desolation it spreads through Europe I' willingly agree with you, but the United States cannot surely mean to attribute the" cause to .ireat Britain.? The ones- tiort between Great Hritaio and France is that of an honourable struggle against the lawless ef forts of an ambitious tyrant, and America can but hare the wish ofevery independent nation, as. to I'.s result . ' On a third point, sir, I have beert" mistaken. Hi reat, Britain, never contended "that British mer. chant vessels should be allowed to trade-with her jnemiespor thafUrKtsh property should be allow ed entry into their ports," as you would infer j such a pretention would indeed be preposterous : but Great Britain does contend against th-system of tcrruuiTui in pucuceoy r ranee, oy wmcn, ustirp ing aiitharty wbefeyet her arm or thh, midity such violations alone were "within the purview of your law, there would seem to. have been no ne cessity for its enactment; -The British navy might have been safely trusted for thejiteyention of this occurrence. But I have, always believed and my government has believed that the American legis. lators had in view in ihe provisions of their law as it respects France, not only her deeds of vio lenceon the seas, but oil the novel and extraordi nary pretentions and practices of her government which i infringed theirjieutral rights. We have had no evidence, as yet of any of tfiose pretentions being abandoned- To the am biguous declaration in Mr. Champagny'sf note is opposed the' unambigueQs" and rpal decla tatian of Bonaparte himself. You urgehat thefe is nothing incompatible with the revocation of the decrees jn respect toTthe Uni'ed States ih his ex pressions, to the deputies from tKeTree cities of Hamburgh, Bremen and Lubeck, that it is distinct ly stated hi that speech, that the blockade of the British "islands shall ce'ase when , the British block-r ,ade ceases, 8c that the French blockade nh all cease in favbur of those nations in whose favour Great Britain revokes bers or Who siippprt their rights against ner preTenfions. ; - ' - It is to be inferred from this and tba correspoqd- jevokihg our edicts, but to descend to the ti3e of the perfidious and juggling contrivances of . her cabinet, by which she fills her coffers at the ex pence of independent nations. A similar con struction of proceediog 'arjtoM might lead to such decrees as those of Rambouillet, or of B.iy onne, to the system of extlusiqnjor of licences, all measures of France against the, American com- . merce, in nothing short of absoldteliostility. It is urged that, no 'vessel ;ha been-condemned by the .tribunals of I ranee oh the principles of her decrtes sinqg the 1st of November. You allow, howevef, that there have.betn some detained since that period and that such" part of the cargoes as consisted of goods not the produce of Ame rica, was seized, and the other part, together . with the vessel itself, only released after the pre- sident's proclamation became known in France. These circumstances surely only prbve the diffi cuhyjhat France is under in reconciling her anth commercial and apti neutral system with, her de- sire to express her satisfaction "at the measures taken inAmerica against the corrimerce of Great Britain. She seizes liFviftlreflhe Berlin a"nd Milan decrees but she makes a partial restoration for the purpose of deceiving America. have now followed ycu, I believe" sir," through v the whole range of yoUrargumeht, and on review ing the' course of it, I think I-may securely say; that no satisfactory proof hai yet been brought , forward of the repeal of the obnoxious decrees of France,- but, on the contrary, that it appears they continue in full force, Consequently that no grounds exist on which you can, with justice, demand cf Great Britain a revocation of her orders in couti- ' cil ; that we have a right to complain of the con duct of the American government, in enforcing the provisions of the act of May, 1810, to the exc!u- ' sion of tho " British trade, and afterwards in ob. taining a special'law for the same purpose, though it was potorious at the time that France still con tinued her aggressions upon American commerce, & had recently promulgated anew her decrees suf fering no trade from 'this country but through licenses publickly sold by het agents and that all the suppositions you have formed of Innovations on the part pf Great Britain or of her prefensions to trade with her enemies are wholly groundless. T have also state Ato you the view his majesty's government has taken of -the -question of block ade of May, 1 l)0, and it how only remains tliat I urge afresh the injustice of the United States' government persevering iri th ;r Union with the French system for the purpose' of washing the commerce cf Great ...Britain. T; From every consideration which equity, good policy or interest cansuggest,there appear to bs ' suchliTairTipon America to give up this system; ; which favours. France to' the. injury of Great Bri tain, that I cannot; however little satisfactory yoit -communicajtions, are, as yet abandon all hopes that , " even before the congress meet, a. new view m:y t be taken- pf -.the subject by Jthe president which 1 will lead't6''trmpre.happyi- rjes'uU.' fr- A .1 have the honour to oe, w,h wry. hifjh rnn. .sir, :r.ost cbedi- il"-a.' ent Iittmble-aervaWv' - ;.-UGrr j. fqstek. - .'kflt, atosaoJS.To Mn. t osTF.n.;' " - Deiartrnnit of State, ' ':' :'"" v '.'! ' vir-S5fA July, 181 U- SIR, ing parts " of the declaration alluded to, that urdess L. 1 b"d the horfor to revive your ltter;cfyer T Gteat Britain sacrifices her uihciples of blockade,-day 's date, m time to submit U la the view of tire' which are thosfe authorised by the established laws President belore he ktt town. of hationsj France w'dl aTtill maintain; her decrees. . (Sce fiurlhtAgrl) :