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;y.-KlJ.'.7 -a, .r , mjror,fwtea4 Tof amuhiniihU'' iitfhtf f had )ad gra weight in the-kingdom,"- and a POT of scales has still Iisjto do And ,f Riving daily -.proofsto-ouf sorrbwancuoss xnai especiauy .g iiupuise aiut.au;cuoii w ; upc iwtwuoine rip w capable the decreed are in fcrceand operation -ipular or J? ' Let us- wait .t!i r peration oTicf oTerturnjna aecisioa yrhi(,e ?f l am amone the last meti in m . aenaic, smjioesc uoi'-..i vauaca. n,! paiiCM,; .v w.wjuwv- 6w . uaimu, he'tjatt'havo iidt been abfc'U M'-''ctiiiiAt to iTiVS'ify, 1 can only' wishj t5 tfl jiiaie hop4 ,ihat .y,oa''Tna7 not,?u f)i 'tyi''H . ' Tliii; !ctttywa$:. tilted uiknt. ihf to ML sentiment w IVi 1 prevailed, for him tft reqovtr 'ns , y miger which gaye. ihe aifv' VK, s o; a vcrrmn- former. g9W. - ; , - : , " "; :; ; tr;aty afid 0t Wt:etr,j Speech on the War queftion. EXrRACTS FROM MR. 84YARD S SPEECH, v ! SENATE OV THE UNIXED STA'tES Upon his motion Maiir.. theMhof,Juner. los'si; lane the further jtfinpderation off he Hilt declaring vAr against G. Vircm o Me 3 1 at of October ' f Can it bo expected that a nauoq which depends forts existence tip on lis naval strength, would yield a principle threatening the destruction of its mar'uimc power 14 No wat, : of ,aty .'durition'i1 or however disastrous, will ever extbrt .this conccs aionbhe may as well fall with arms ia her hands 'as to seal quietly the bond of her tuin He did not Jtnow that our eoverni i tiirhttrt JlUrfesi. Oof comtihinti wcrc!lifcT the abuses committed in the exercise pf the rfgVti ik was practice frequently attended with r6- ente,isQlt ana gross injustice. Aincncas were ouen Dixn xiisign or mistake siczen as oi nin o- nd we have abundant evidence otthe fact, nr ofour native seamen have been forefcd i$h service. He bad always understood, f r, that such act were not justified. by th eovernmenU , The 'chief mbarrassmenl Ota' the difficulty of distinguishing.the sail- e two countries. But e naa. no ;apuot and all other difSculties on the aibjelft"1 be vanquished without having recourse I lects. i ,thatnl I "BritiV I 1 Kdd I 6rS(f 3 I 'laid . wari Mr B.'wbo would justify or defend ther orders in cbuncif' They ..viplate, the jrtaihest tights of the nation' .The grqund of reuliation was peter more; thatfi pretext, taftd theiV plain jects,t4 jdeprive France of neutral tradeV It nevefc wai contended, nor does Britain I'now contends ihaV she wmu justiued by;ihe laws or usagfes of natioiis to inter-, 4ict our c6rpierce With her, eneatftrhV wnrs' her injustice, with tfie cloak of retaliation,.and in.i sists that shihasBjighi to retort upoq her enemy the eyils of, his oWn polky v-This is a doctrhf to whk lam not disposed to agree; It Is destruct ion to neutrals-i-It -makes themthe prejr pf the know that our govemmenrfcjad er;t58wents. c f doctsftte' Vhvkv W inust te" : ai ufii 1U9, tunc ma HjauncT.HiJi5WJivi 'Mii"v 4irs,-; Because we are mjorea we certain? re not ind to make wan betore it rs forour rtfr bene- fit ?.,There is one effect of this war : which (tentle- enoucht'to take intft Vw, aridiirblcbj to him,1 is a source oigriet ana numinairon. v. in ina&ins ar upon England, we bring the forceof the nation 1 aid of France. -;We ate ;-ibout to assist a ;go- ertirnent from whom we tiave? suffered for years last the. most humiliatiiig insults and the most lt. pciouvwrbngs yf e ;,are about to"; make a com mon cause yrith , a. roan who'hatcs -jus for our lan Kuage and despises ,tts" for our gvern'merit,' ani who would to morrow if tie had the means, with- lout seeking a pretence,- add us to the ltst of ,his conquered provinces. This connexion should not oc nasyry iurmeq.,, ao;oincrauon u um vcc,,, the "forerunner of subiueation ind ruin. t Let us ac ume.toconsiaer. inc. consequences Wi bvc T disDUte as to pauer blockades, was for the - - 1 : -: pre il, mergea in ine orucrs 111 tuuiim 4 ird i were now to be considered as comprehend- jAjiipj ie whole cause oi war, . ; " j - T s subject deserves to oe vieweomcry Edt The drders in council were not awbiistim, tr ilk. suDnorted upon their ongmat tdjf confessed the fact.; iThey were adopted :svur,t:4 of retaliation, though thej never de. I that-character He had always considered fcilin and Milan decrees used as 4 mere pre. J Th6se dicfees were vain and empty denun fn in relation to- England. TheWn design e British government was tq deprive France 4;nefit3 of external commerce'unlfSJ the Kiits fit were divided witk herself This was yjr. proved by the licence trade. Britain carries on the venr tfade sbe denies to neutrals, and feav- ;ng engrossed tne wnow to nerscii, np iftitrals from nartkioation. No man was iore !n himseJl to reprobate tne wrqDg qi triumph r:.-- fyi uarx t to bs, by the peopTt t England Halves :wi bout KjmLt ,1 h minister U )4 YT rCi.led onp.Uep. He had BufTered; 1 th W'brs :tt go to a commij. - III would be ilif kit, against, the s' rong current nf V;- At the SftH iiiniTi if. We cast 'our eyes V v V VJd on the lettc motion, AH . ff unparalleled n: di R tc'; ng i trie . ,10 4hs coantt y. .see eveVy tlung ip ,nf' , v. !tr!3;a.xc cbiittifaiCtoA which 'mifi-hl 1 r?t in, in suble 'tt:.""iii wl il xbw i foeM mijthl rope to the w of C olf arte. If, Ji? v;v"-- cjcven .writing prosrhw- '.Te--tv theic emperor r ;li:;.'''o'-!doiFtl Jj-of the- war'. I bu it vrffyrlnlu .di'-.f if tamelyiAir" c;.14i idilexrtif. Ht '&UioyfzrtfJ atf tWWyUc4-L4- cf-thHi'rsfa ,ie?f pfihe. tcl sr,-. "but aH,Enrps flr'ua tride, odd ,i$T'Kc Mmfjg Ate he asnaibltf felt t.hat ndwwCand to crcat Bevagnei 'M lhe'W.GrJ2icJtjiu'-i 1 m w .M 1 IT ' .o'awtd tiTit-. lo"-fiim:' ifti (he k i- to declare, that if Fifence'' refused wrongs she had donl that the same course ought t,o be taken in relation ; to her a3 to England ' It was' alleged that nert Ration was Stil pending be tween the United $Mes ind. France and -jt pre. sent we we re.rbouncl Li abstain from sets of hostili ty as to her. This fl 5ubtful state of affairs as to that power was a strfcijg reason for delay., v A few months will j)ecess. jly .realize or disappoint the cial Aitapgement with France. Jtte'w&Li rett an the languat cthe Jeut ducemenu upoher partto cultivate fri and beace with ihe.XJ. States. -CU- '. - v.. I! t ' . I'll . ' A ' Ai 1 Al 'nmm.nil W.mr J-.- .t -. 'XI Airtne same ump genuemen wouiacaii; iofninar";"wv, !v,v-&u,,i y,v-v7xw q umicu ? 1 tuiui: vi an xnc ;wjse aeu nwicsi men .01 me naii m " 1 the unsettled state of affairs between this coantrv and France,,.' The tfanciple of partial and equal .hadjiot been abh; to.shake pr scarcely mojityj conduct as to the bliigerenbs', was aVbwed by,ll,' tkeU-ccTOmer-ctal yewtf Hapoleo4 whatw'ai and he had as yet mdt witii no one who .-hesitated P oe pewea w inc ncgoeiauoa ot an Am sed'reqress for the rv1 minwier i .i-pr nis parti nysspctwi lioUii.i 1 Ant rr-v - U . t. Reives, tnd tnoffh jtcoiH i'lstification. vet our ftovernment in their conduct bad admitted that the decrees placed us upon the jme footing as to France, as the orders did as to England, and required equal measures to both ria : ton?. : A . . Our government had been -pleased to say what he Hi not thtnk at this time arlr man in the nation believed besides themselves. They Jiad been pleas. td to say. the decrees are repealed. This is a fact, and assarted without any proof. ?he decrees cpuld only be repealed by tlie same power and in the same manner in which they were enactediThey proceeded from the sovereign pow er of France and became the ttws of the empire . The same, power in the. solemn forra of a law ould alone revoke them.vve possess inc. qc upon-wWeh-the4esuhyV may pront by ceiay.out cn gam owning oy prce cipitancy. The war will not hastily remove the orders in council. It is the. principle of the prders, rather than their effect, of whlch we complain. The trade to France which they interdict, is ofi little consequence to4be country. Its annual a mount is leas thanthree milUonff pi; dollars, and v m find it onerated with duties Wexcessive, and restricted to such ''articles of exchange, that eveq if enjoyed in safety, it would befproductiye of lit tie profit, to individuals or tothe nation. If, bow ever, you declare war at this .time, you lose the trade to Great Britain and htr . dependencieat e qual td thirty five mdlibns & year, without gaining the paltry trade with France The Uws of war will operate still.more extensively than the orders in council ; and though no doubt we shall gratify the emperor of "France,, we ehall enjoy IitUe com be the int-ntion of 'gentlemen to propitiate the emperor, rod to seo ire a.; treaty by means of a w.ar with England This, would be purchasing his friendship at the esn:nse of our honor, as well as ot our bipod and tre jure. f Bejfore vte brea with England, we ought fo know upon what terms we stand with France j'lf France will concede npthr ing, in order to indtce us, to 'enter into,the war, what are we to expi;t when she is no longer .ask ing our sid, but we ire standing in need of her as sistance, to carry, di the Contest.. In vain then will ydu ask for rtresSi and indemnity for sei-? J ures a;-J spoliatiotfi., . -Jet us wait and see wnai she wjll do before vre throw oursdves intoher scale afterwards it will be too late. , TheVasp will leturn before Nov. and, what is now doulnfu) with some, vail then be certain with all. Some gentlemen were looking Tor the return r- I a. Z 1 - 1 . I ' out iwse pronvs.s.gnd QK7e nopes. , , iipaftyM'xDecithaeoD will rtlax his an. $ic;ommercial system in favour of yptttcommercej When you. see hiro bringing into the field five hurt- dred thoushd - men . and reedy to natard the jm pejial 'crbyrrifn 6rdjclb.cwpelJRuSfcia:,ib adopt" and enforce: the same system ? To indulge the expectatibh was to.make orHel the sport of the most visionary hoje;Th& VVasp vvQld bring .duplicates ;.of thdespatefcss. which had been re- cefved by; the fiprne and protracted hopu would at last.sink in despair.,. H f tho'ughti h'ovevtr, thr. those "gentlemen who still kept expectation ahve, that France would do us justice aad grai;t Us ctmi ' r . y, . . .r , . mcrciai. lavors, unuer lae.wtint 01 uouL-t, ttjci must depress th,e;r hopes-, wught , to watt for thtfal tun ate intelligence, Vkhsc-T was to determine our'! relations with trance, and shew us mere clearly the course which our interest or our honour re quired that we should take In Veiation to Qrcaj- Brijam..; ; . Sir, said Mr. B. before I set down, I will call the attention of the Ser.ate to. anQther ground for postponement, which can riever safely be overhx.k- td iior neglected in a goyernmerat like that of the llnited Slates. This war Is hot to be supported h the men only who declare it ; Us weight will & lfrcji -wilh his dt creesin all the forms of law, but have we ever so, the government any reason to peneve mat tne decree in the form of lawhas been passed to .-,1 ,i,i.m I The oromis ofa sovereign to repeal a law'does not annul it, nor wpuld a reference of j . his minister to its being repealed have that eflect; Every sovereign power prescnues w ivn in which its sovereign wHl shall be known, wkeo ""it Is to constitute a law of the land. ; " " d The decrees teach us whattnis lorrn is r Mft. ' rp.pi this vissel cachiicceeding ,d?yi But for hisV But for his P011.11 6rcal body tf thejpeople, and they ai'e t tat state of affairs. 4 Some gentlemen consider that the honor of the' nation called for immediate' hostilities. It is admitted '.hat a country is bound to defend it honor, nor i'a:r its interest-be well seperated from its honori But what honor can you acquire by going to wir in your present un prepared and feeble State, fin respect to nations, ffory pi the Homet, to expect to seethe iraome mnnthaafter the time announced for her .t-iivtl. Ia February the government gave ovt hat the Hornet was daily expected, and with a pisage of twenty days she did not arrive for thrernontha after. . She was detained by the very c'? vhich will detain the Wasp, waiting their .glory and their succeii are nearly allied.; A , for a tretjy. If she waits for a treaty, which is vafiquished nation " gains nit honor, however justjto indem Jfy us fuj: the losses sustained under the its cause" may be You hane certainly no force plunderitg decrees of 'Rambouillet, which some prepared to enier Canadaurarmy is still to be formed. It is tb be found 0 paper but not in the fields With mUitia, noJnvionofa foreign ter ritory can bq contempiated.lfThey are hot bound vto pass ypiir froritiers,v arid deirous they cannot be toshed tiFljo to the unwieldy territories of ttie U. States. Is it on the ocean that we have to wok for laurels, with twenty ships opposed to a tl desperate" courage cannot ed gainsrsuchHfeaf ful odds-. 1 and our commerce, must of thewar upon the ocean our gentlemen are so impatientxo enjoy. 1 nere was reason to oeiteve wci uruam wouia gendetiw flatter themselves with the expectation ot being jfranted by Imperial justice, it is .much to be drtaded. she will never visit the, American shores. Do you expect that. Bonaparte will re Store ths booty which he has seized ? As well might j'Cul expect that the grave would surrender itsprey.;; . .,. &7?. If, as f as said, indemnity for' spoliations, was to be ttt asis of amicable relations with France, sure he f, s,- that we need .-not wait fcr the ihtel- ioss of qur navyfhgence the Wasp, might bring. Or, n you ex sand I. The most mand' success a- t;ha consequences is this the hon SedSuwe see an act of the sovereign in produce fiour ma h. i he same form m which they are founl. Such s rftiiTe amonG? ourselves, A aw repeated by a aw passedln the same1 form. It isthe pf act ice of every nation in Europe, and of every qj.li ,.a Hrtn the eartn. But even the prohise lo repeal was only conditional, and it has J;ver which4s tc-wound4henemyWfiot bette retain our nresent condition ? The taf is nbt ne. 1 man ri ver entertained the opinion which the let He knew and was entirety -sati3-. manulactures.? in ... a. ed of seizures made on the principles of tfeoae te. : creest and. to affirm that tne uecr .-p--n 'td, was only to add.perfidyto the atrocity of he -M-.J- v-u who do not hesitate to plan. conauci o heen Announced to us that the emperor consMfcr -fcr 7t r- r , . r,iAwi firetrour narr byfpro-t :q. ine conxuuou jtr retait A hibiting : the importavono 1 XM." cessary to execute the mtricuyesykitm randif r anulactures in uci, tj -"JV: restriction be the chief effect of warl iidtre nai better -hear'ivith the evils of this system, than in. voive ourselves at tne same uwc u aiammes of war ? MrB." said his motion was recommend by. the strong consideration, that by postponing the de claration ot war we couio lose noiu.a mtj ce tainly.would gain a great deal. Hostilitej would be suspended during the preseiit - yearl ' in the mean time,4 you will be Employed in iitg ahd disciplining ybur army, and providing tae muni tion 3. of war your vessels, property and Se&rneh may be brought homeland you have the chance brpTtWuTevehirwhieirrfiiSy rnterpooe. , Eni'land at this moment is in a convulsed 8ridl Xumults, little snort 01 ioSur t me nw. r . fdi;r, burn and destroy f.PSV" k. even after, abandoning the prem : which atitrst they are respectful enough to itemPt t;overither vlvience. r cf thp French emperor, nor any 5 tiffins than the ' edecess which iuMling. . ffe has contrived to satisfy oar goyern. .fv,?61' ' " " i l,; flerrees. wink to jnent that he has rcpc ' , 7 Vt.,! Z the cv of the rest of the wona ;u.w7 v bbfrce) these-meapshbeasoperiedou r !" nrivate ships of France, .. r, pons 10 inev P, - - . ncr,rx Britain.; r , Pur w h. K";"- -e f Great Britain. ; - 4nd shut them agatns. those ?l,VV c u , , Ichiesthe evideW decrees, Wgrrr rS If firnished to:usLw?ulq r 7 immedrately remove the ordcrftri ""Vf-' f -o 1 ci litate the settlement of our differences 51th Bng. m: f ni-Britain has declared that the momen. evi. U , .xrA.A ni tlie redealoftheclecrets, tne The land.- 01 ders i dcr.re.ls produced of tl e repeat o vj-i- , in council shall ipso lacro yp uaiv . ; feelthewar only through its rr.trictive eSiects, were undoubtedly feft. The obWtidn to them was their' reaction upon ourselvls. The great question was, whether we did not t.lict upon our. selves a deeper wound than upon bit adversary. If such were the case, it was a stAbr3 mode of retaliating. But if this be the Me pf the war, gland rtistrar.tcfl- state re'etion, have happened in different Cpaits w ifc kingdom, the .present mnusu y uum .v. Pa. cVs by a vTry pfecaS sltinn and intentions bf the Prince Reprent are not distinctly known The Prince may he forced to v'iM tn the- nohtilar sentiment. We had latel pect a cc.imercial treaty, which ,:s to give activi ty to yo commerce, by opening the ports of France to your trade, it is a delusion, which time will 'detiipote and under which ,w.e pugb.tpot to act. neW. the ; source t of tiia" delusion. . Tt gre.wjpit.f the letter of MrBarlowipurminister in Frar.cet (0 Mr. GraDger, the Post master gene, ral. . Thy letter, he understood, was dated about the 1 6th February,, with an indorsement of the 3d of Hoi4. ,: IVr. ai lokexpresd the exfaic. tation f forming a cbmmerdiul treaty -with the French government and the Hornet was detained for the purpose of carrying-it, II believed the cbuntrv vs mbst 'Vrbssly deceived antf tm ter err)'i'er,v vin;a he wrote liv; retter .tl.at a held: an extract iii his harid, which was dated on the 29th i February, whichin very eloquent terms and on the strongest grounds expressed an opini on, that Ro commercial arrangement would be,, en tered into by the French government. He would read the extract to the Senate. Mr. B. here read rhe felL?wfn?r extract .of a letter., from Mr. ' Bar- loTTO rttTrLatroherdated thet9th of February: 1813. 1" ' ''('' ''-'.;''.' '.' "','' ' " The crpectaticn tf yourself and my other friends oi my doingi here are too high t fear1 to berealizsd. It is verV difficult to produce a change m a system of Vcftraace and otHir strong passions arrayed agairtst cn enemy, as is the anticommerctal ,ays-; Item of Napoleon. Argument and e200uence.avc sustain its nressurc. . '.if . :m M i - 1 ou maintain public .scntinfeht is not a'resent known on tlif subject. The people hare c jver y tt believed us se . rious in our intention of casing, war against (if ear Britain. ... Let iis wak till ve can have a full an-.: distinct expression cf theu opinion Are you a; fraid that opinion is ajaindt war 1 and if so, are you hardy enough to mak war ? Do you forget your origin, that you are creatures of the people's' favor I That it is their ,p?cr which you are extr-. cising, and that you have ho strength of your owi.I fie must be little instructed in the nature or hisici ry of our government, why supposes that a waFcan be long supported -agaktit Uie will of the people. The constituiipn makes jse general will, the beti'd ot the government. Ti)y will upun all occasion must "be consulted, at.d must be obeyed. You may commence the war aainRt the will of the people,' but bow long can. "you exercise" the.powers of gc vtrnnient against theif wiU ? f Ho knew well tii.it some gentlemen calculated much from the wr sj.ii', fit. That war spirit, wui at most but the ebukr- tion cf this passions,;! SfciprVlived in itl nature are all the. passions. ; : " . ..Taxes and privations .will Scon extinguish ifj - . and you will have to setUe vixif account with a na.. tion in 'their sober senses. If unfortur.3telvthe , spirit, of the war shpuldirllime the party p'iuiS to badntsl'ahd the-people ..iUogld be. williug tas--crijBcft 'their-'country ' to: sypport. a party, then-':a;. deed migh .Ministers oafsulate; upon holding ihcir power. But can. we foresee thej, Consequepcti JL' thus inflsmjng tlibfuricus passion? ofa whole pci' ple ? Have you a si'vjng-power .in theconsutusftn wyhiefashiaU bring.'usout. cf ,the-faad -stragftf entire nation ? ; Chjr co;s0t'ition was designed i t peace .and pr?teciion, bu notour off Caiye v?ar great aim was to preserve 1 j tv-wi? ".pursers . ,rtrf principles ofcivil ahd pvil" .l liberty.. Saci-u. tht ?ade o h ccukiry was impracticable. Mr, Y been &r& ,p that the -f t B Twfp,ke not on the ground ofpresump- ws f power lias.bfeBucd. Aga.nsta :?v nor rsligbi cvidenfeWe fiSdn'a W P?er, with" a tim:ed people, 1 ay not .U uon, nor auj . . . , . rf-fifj-nr in enerw : hut divided amof ourseh'cs., Hetter of Mr. Barlow to iur. x,troce, 01 wmwui -- .,;,;,.;..'... it is Wit:iout imve. 11-pokssto w mhhs pie if the North became arnytdagalnf the' Sou-h. And if the couise of thirfS should ta4 .". t'mJ. conflict, we should have lett only the recu cciiy:. I of havinr lived ijndgi'.ii ouimonjf.-j. What is there to .'insure -us K''f; J "."" event $ -'II the' fwrthttn s?fts cocciver-.-.r.iii. te.i-et&to-hc3acricd.,a'l-'i'g,TUlKic 8Vtler,-hi;--, , regarded, will they long ?" WU n Pl'" ... has not howrrtocdntvoui The ; avit.u;U5 c the government. onra sbcit-sifaHy.resisted, -h in '4 - ., terwards desi-iastil and'-tfci's is an end of the tr.-:;: J1'- rr"r . , l .1',' ... : 1 t iv- oc-. r a, rrt-fash toned; n seetl twe corporation otipna come mrwaiu -puwiue powe y? , ' -"Grca'tlv is it to be da- A iU, tUs.iu o.c iinkt the orders' in Council: ---mUss; whoHi artbu represent, with landed eye ureatiy u ;; t ; Mil MUM WW - ..... 7,t. , "S; f I O ' , . . stiiution and of the .uruon;:Vi'h anyhauop, zUyj: time." war is a haxd rdous :e x p'c r intent v it h ni t i.i- vern merit. ;4n neacer.we ae:'CT-pcr.ei.cu . .-sings- AVahave et-n'mit ss5rc(w.lsi- iiont i f thd" st happyvand- .ptt-Le .tM'-'. 1 liit- v ; . ! t
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