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FRIDAY, SE
24.; 1813;
.No912,
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W'EMBER
S5S
f rom theIikotji (kkn.) statssmak;
TO THE-PEOPLE.
Th late Favette eleciiou -ind 1t$ incidents
lust be my apology for once more oMfedlng
yiclf upon your pauce. shall oe comcni wun
r cnndse statement. I entered on tne
eatre of public life with a vrarm lichmenK
free vernment, wnicn remains uiwiis&s.h
nettr had much respfa tor party narni or
nithets. flisunct froiii'Tjrincipres myODiecw
lv been to undeTStand nd uphold the true
riaciplea and genius, dfoor contitutiont aoa tnati
fsttrnof policy whxh was Dest caicwatea lose
ure oo a tiuwte oasisi ine-puoncir, ua
niKfic iMDoinea Duriif nay' senatorial term.
fhe aminiwratioa and thar prty ramhheiJ the ! no motive orVntertfst
fexfa which hare regulated' my conduct. To the in council, t? ove hich I appeal to no Jes3
Iriociples which they aTovred I have Bdhered. anthoiity than the instructions of our govern.
n making this assertion I stafld Supported by meht to Barlow, a few months bejnre thelcclar
heir public and official acts and ' declarations, ationofwor 'he subject of impressment, it
make it howeter not to rcproai:h them, but to must be eadeM to every man wh' understands
usdfy myself 'j and after I separated from them the subject, fhat a proper law on our part for he
in the war question, I did nothing to annoy ri surrender of Jkitish dest-rtersk and for reguhtintj
tmbarass ; indeed) the administration are much (the employment of foreityi seamen in our scr
Odebted to me with regard to several important . vice, would. have led to an honorable and satis.
IneBSureJ. I determined not to avail myseit or factory utr;ngement ;i tne pracuce. in support
he last Session of my term to oppose them, but Qf which I refer to ihe letters of the present sec
frVid taquestion the propriety ouhese things tor tune t anc. I musttw permuted to say, thaUfcflf
ftar of havirg' the epithet 0Tft or something men have jbcted with moieldlsintcrcstsd vieiJ'.
else 'ipvX&tfibT some. .impudent scoundrel, I am About" the Br brty eonteats for bofer arid
constraiiiedfb suspect that the manly genuine
sp'mXor.republjcanjMtt has fled ; aad that the
ashiona'ble republicanism is but a name used by
marfy V rover the worst designs, liut I will nor
longer - indulge myself oti these topics. I will
hope that I am under some ;linaccbntahl& delu
sion. I am restrained by another and most pain
ful consideration, that in exposing error, I may
onlv make ennie wiihwit rendering the coun-
wrv 1 Altho I do not tase leave oi
eally acquiesced in some acts of a very qa stion
We character. To dissipate some prejudices
Vhich have been excited against me by means i
retary of,ute and attorney general, Mr. Monroe
and M.P nkney
The polit-ral men who upport the war, act
ot very honorable, I beg leave to say a few words 'under the influence of very diflfcrrnt motives and
n the war subject in addition to what I have objects. Mmy, .nd the most sincere advocates
heady laid before the puiilic. in the views I "of the war, jhink. perhaps, that we ought to make
ve presented, 1 have had reference t6 the pub- co nmon cause with France, to compel u. an
lie proceedings of the government, nor dli "I con. 'tain t recognize the priaciple of the treaty of
derany thing else proper for public discussion. TJlrecht ; substantially ihesime contepderl tor
o correct, however, erroneous impressions islby the armed neutrality ot 17aO? the estjb.ish
he chinf object of this address. It will bo re
ollected that the first embargo was announced
:o be a measure of impartiality in rehtion to
Jboh beHicerents, which was followed by a non-
pBterwirse against both. On ihe first day of
pliy, 1810 ConssptrmittCM-ail the restrictive'
"measures to expire, and itemed detcrmitxH noli
Ho enter into the war, uniess one of the helliger
xnts would observe toftarJ? us a fair ard just ;o
Jlicy. Jt may here be proper to remark, that af
jterwe; had repealed the first embargo my views
were much iesa 'favorable to the war policy than
ikwuii i a viii nit iiw3i tvuaiiiciauuii x uau uctu
t
each other, it was the interest of this gvera
merit to maintain their uentrar" attitude, leaving
the merchants who bad a right to arm to re. p the
bestliarvet they coidrt, din ing the troubled state
of Europe Having taken this view, and the ad
ministration having assumed a ground in unison
wiih b, it will not appear strange that I should
be very averse to see my country roa; ceuxerai
from it by any artifice of a foreign minster. A
lew months afcer the arrangement with France
Was made,' about which so much Ins been said,
we began Ao Suspect very strongly that all was
not f&h, and I urged, when the law of Match
1$ 11 was before the Senate, to-aevenal friends
if the administration in whom I had confidence,
the propriety andljiectssity of taking aground
Which would" rid us of the arrangement in case
it turned out. as we txpected, to be a deception
fend i section Was then proposed, in substance
authorising and requiring the President to re.
voke it, unless the conduct of the French govern
Bient should meet, his just txpectations for
which I voted, as the' journals of the senate will
shew. I state the fact, to prove that my impres
sion from the beginning was, that we owed it to
our own honor to rescind the arrangement -if
France dm not act wiih good faith- ,At the next
Session, the war session, after the war spirit had
been kindled by the news papers and the presi
dent's message, 1 would have repealedjhe on
Intercourse and have taken a decided ground a
gainst Great Britain. ' My opinion was that such
a course would nave-prevented war. A repeal
pf the arrangement would have furnished Great
.Britain with an apology and the certainty of war
Pwhh a motive toresclnd heV orders in council.
Otherwise we Could as a measure to our own
have renewed the non-inrtrtourse The object
I had rooHt at heatt'was to prevent the war, wiih-
t out jacrifi:ing tny vry poularity or the honor
(Pt the country and l woy id not nave couute
asked me, my opinion as to the course ttf.be" pur
. sued. I answered him, that the only honorable
j course, left ,11s was to authorise Jhostilities with
bofh, " commence with marque and ' reprisal j
andhat ground I tnaintaired to the fest ; nor
did 't give nor intend to give an assurance or
pledge to any man that I vould vote foijlt Some
mi have supp6se'd that t would, though unwill
inglf Lvote for it ; that is, that I would not hazard
vote' against it, and I am ready to contess par
I ,was very rtluctant, to differ vith some nreri of
the inajoTity tni iu8tioiw I did. olunk.. that
we owed tt to our own honor to manitest - our in.
dignatJa) In some way at the conduct of France.
Such a course would have rendered the war less
popular in England.jtod have produced more con
fidence and union at "home. Nothtnir but notions 1 if y
ot honor snoma nav inauccu us w ua 3 i,.Vw,-"'S'i, i'""
withontV rbange ir the policy of Franewe.iuui t:!tyi Yt 4 hU Sci it no
nn'mntiri nMntert to resist the British orders difficult task to recone'de- myself to it My pitn
ciplesi and views of the public interest I cannot
sacifice in any material degree, to gratify the
oride or policy of any party. In my state of po.
Ikjcal depression I am consoled by a vHect con
sciousness that, the cardinal object, at least ot my
political course, has been the good' of my country
and. that I have neyer planned or meditated the
political destruction of any man to preserve my e
levauon.
JOHN POPE.
P. S. Many well disposed persons trave sup
posed, that after failing to carry the measure I
deerned hest, it would nave oeen rigni to nave
cone with the majority. To this I answer if
my course ws correct, the other must have been
wrontr. My vote would have been m direct con
tiadiction to the ground I had taken with the
President many months before, and a resolution
1 had -previously moved in the Senate. I was
not in a temper to make great sacrifices to go
with the party. Most of 'he abuse I had receiv
ed was from the democratic party. Had it been
from the opposition, I should have considered it
in some decree a matter of course; but to be
vilified and harrsssed without provocation by the
fi iends and pretended friends of administration ;
and unaccustomed v reproach, to have suspicion
and distrust diffused throughout the country, and
nanic Jirly in Kentucky, by those who pretend.
ed to be the supporters of administration ; con
Scious that I neither had done any thing or Con
templated any thing against the party or admin
istration ; 'hat no man would have hazarded his
popu'a' ity sooner, in support of their measures if
tolerahlv riehty and that, if, as far as my efforts
were influenced By-a party feeling, in relation to
the renewal vf the bank charter, it was with a
view to support tht nrtmftiistration, had mi effect
on my feelings aid dispositions towards the par
ty which 1 have never recovered. 1 wasdisqua
Hired from being very hearty with them after
wards, and nothing but my attachment to a few
individuals kept me with them as a party
Some circumstances connected with the Presi-
dent, which occurred after I had been so severe-
anc4(eiriselvesttcomlng the paymasters ; when French government neitW ad ot intended ,td
l-4jgg patronage extended to an enormous de-j abandon their hostile 'edictt omiHhefj.- hd.iiM:
greei Without necessity and, worse than all, jvolved us with EnglanH. My public altitatigtv
when a ooserve tne cast men in tne country n-naa certauuy aoae uorniug to my private iqr ,
ment of Which Bonaparte declares to br necessa
ry to the freedom of the seas. Others aro for it.
because it is supposed to be pr-pular, and will be
for it no longer than it is so. A, jhird class pro
bably think-iHs necessry to have the nation
sco'irgd awhile with war, and taxes, to recon.
"ile thn to a reasonable treaty wijth G' eat Br
tain. VVhether it 13 the interest or policy cf ibis
nation to contend for the principles which appear
to constitute the avowed basis of the war on the
part ofFrance and herein, or upon what terms
ou'!gpverftmentb.ught"'toi--,niake pesce, are ques
tions upon which I should not, if suffici-ntly in
jable to bestow on the subject, I was convinced formed, presume at present to give a"y opinion.
tamiroiu tneiiarure 01 ine oni'.-si orivvtei r ranee f tjo not, mtieea, suppose tnai it woma nave in vie n
Hid TingtantJ, and Ahe poncy adopted-to 3ire;ir.autnce run- the public My object, however,
in 1 his address, is not to dhcuss, or provoke the
discussion, of anj political topics ' My intention
wan not even to examine the correctness of. nry
o vn course, but merely to correct erroneous irar
predion with regurd to it. I do not expect to
ddress the public in a political way shr iy : l
ran never ceass to feel a warm solicitude for the
welfare of the country ; but my attention, for
some time to come, will be chiefly directed to my
pr ivate and professional business. Success in the
Sate 'election would have gratified mt as an evi.
dence of the good pinion of my coun rymen. I
ft . .1 t 1-. .
(lia suppose, too, inn a sea-. iu uic legislature
mij;hr afford tne an opportunity of rendering you
service. While no man can dislike more the
course pursued since the arrangement with
France, cr view with less respect or approbation
he declaration of warunder these circumstances,
because, however just, we appeared to be shuf.J
. d into it by the artful manauvering policy of aj
placr, I have ,littla concern indeed, 1 ravb'er
feel conteikpt. I arn ctent rcf be a nKhrUf
mart ; and in the character at brsertt, if: I had -aft
opportunity, might rehder .the "country most
service. I do not intend to relinquuh tny 'prin.
cipies or views of national policy, to oblige any
man or Set of mert. My votes, which have been
cohsared. were,"I am confident, consistent with
the best interests of the people represented, and
therefore I cannot repent of rhem. J, P.
Fayette CouHtijyJug.' IS. JIFli
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, from thtfctMi(ato&fazttt .. ."'
THE DEFENCE.' . . w.
.f JAMES' MADISOW, ESQ. "Mjiwf'.j
Sih It is the fate of great men, said I ti'fkf
wife a fe w days ago-it is the fate of great tpen
to br assailed by the ignorant, the malicious, and
the narrow minded. For instance see the great '
Madison attacked 'by all the political mosquitos
in the country Great Madison P How 1 :
fie great ! in body or mind ? Wife, answered J$ ;
rather testily, you will be so good, in future, a
not to take the liberty to think every thing, and
say every thing; about his excellency. You' odght
to know how I came by my office, and that anjT
thing like independence and reasoning, at. this
time; does not suit the meridian of Washington!
Indeed, answered she somewhat harshly, I know,
too well how you obtained your officeWould tot
!God it were a secret; Come come, my dear, E
thought you promised to say nothing more about
it Democracy could not live without these t
these but let us change the subject. Indeed,
continued she, it is a fine thing, if there is not
saying a word about men and measures! Why,
boast of freedom, and of the only enlightened na.
tionon the globe I Hush, hush, my dear, he hat
been a fine man, ever since I obtained my office
I am now -fully persuaded of it. Do remember
which side our bread is buttered. The momenC
I use your independent and uncourtly language,
away goes the office to more kneeling slaves
Say he is great, patriotick, independenU-everf
thing that he is not, for the sake of office. Hqr
fx for office holders 1 cried she, waxing verjr
wrnrh Hurra fnr tn'mminff nffirw hnldr I Cln'
on, pay dear go on. You have no character Jto
lose, if you . can thus call black w 4Ttrm i
crouch. Hatter, and keep your office if you . pleaso .
but ask not roe- to apprw X cannot iiJjJi ,
And if I most Here a. neighbour exUeir
ed, and my wife- had sufficient command of -her '
self to drop the conversation, artd salute him
j.t-
fl't"
Your excellency knows how fond the womed
are of wearing the pantaloons.;. On the subject
of politicks my wife and I cannot harmonise ', Jim
ly assailed in Kentucky about the bank charter . you continue Ufcet JjM atick tor ;
and
me
instructions,
: altho' I do
, had no tendency to reconcile I vour cellency through thickand thuito us.
not believe they proceeded from I a very clasiical phrase. Yodwarit such tnert f-
aw.mU; in th. Present to-1 now. It is impossible to do without them. !
any unfriendly disposition in the President to
wards me ; and under that impression I gave
film, during the war session, my views very fully
and candidly about our public affairs ; and wheth.
er right or wrong, I never addressed a item
with more zeal and sincerity, both as regarded
himself and the public welfare. There seemed
to be a systematic effort to proscribe me, or at
fivd into it by the artlul manosuvering policy ot a least to excite suspicion, and under the intluencv
forcVn nation ; I certainly had no design to em. !cf considerations entirely distinct from any re.
b-trrasstbe consltfuTiOfra These thing-have-4o-be-5ure
government. I did intend to enter my protest a-4-v.'ry little to do with my public conduct, because
prainst the interfernce of the state legislature in! the correctness, of that must depend on tacts and
the management of the war. To Congress has principles known to the public but' as my poli
the constitution confided the powerof declaring; tical crreer has ended, at least for a time, I did
war and carry it on ; and it isjheirduty to e-'not think it amis? to mention them. I had sup
qvialize itsYurdens among the people of the-U-j posed that if France had been faithful weshould
butts t and any attempt of artjrman, or set ot ' have g-ne to rar with Great Britain : with both
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men, to give ineraseivcs cuscijucuce, or tnir
friend1, offices, by levying conscriptions or drafts
of militia beyond our fair proportion, unjust a-. id
improper : Nor have I been able to ascertain by
what arithrity adraft of 3000 militia was made last
spring for. the service of the Uni'ed States.
Such proceedings are despotic and oppressive, and
ought to be disapproved by "every frierd to the
constitution of ths country. Let Congress impose
on us otlr proportion of the public burthens, and
I ahall be one of the last to oppose, or counte-
ntrce any opposi'ion to the Jaws, but this law.
pancd war upon principles ihe most honorublfjdes system of rais'ng armks, appointing officers,
pi irpnj a respect for public teelmg. 1 his plan j 8tc. is productive of the worst effects, tt not on
.of fevcifig the arrangements with France be-jjy occasions much useless waste of the public
fore wsrovmenced hostilities, I pressed on the ftreasure but create much unauthorised patron-
President verbally, and in writing, many months Uge affords to individuals numerous opporturv
'fcefore the declaration of war, ar)d ultimately on
the : '.Senate.. This project faded..' It Will be re
collected thaTon the 23d day of May, a few days
Ibefore the war message was sent to Congress,
She vessel Hornet which had beer sebt after the
'eetinir of Congress, aniil from France with
Ihe result so) far of Mr. Barlow 'a mission.. Bar
low a fur neir 'twelve months' negotiationjhad not
,h-en a!k tp get aj single article of a treaty signed ;
aitd while the Frev ch government were amusing
;him with the -prospect of treaties, tliey sent out
SLsq'ilidroii iif public armed 'ships, -which wert
turning rour vessels for sevtral months before,
the declaration f war,' Upon the whole it was
very eyidentthat we hd been tricked and trifled
i A dav n two.. I think before the Preni-
ties of peculating, and speculating upon the pub
lic and tends to prove that our government, as
constituted, is incompetent to carry on a war.
It produces, besidesT conf jsion in our military ar
rangemfnta and uncertainty with regard to the
ways and means necessary to meet the expenses
of the' war and, what is more, it tends to lessen
among the people that sacred regard for ihe con
sfitutiqn ihe majesty and supremacy of the laws,
which is essential to the preservation, of freedom
f am a' friend to an" administration of the govern
ment, according o the spirit and principles' of
our con itutjons. . I certainly hae no anti-re-publican
fetlings or sentiments, .if I understand
the-mening- pf the term. ButTwhen I see rneni-
oe'S 01 congress Taisng .aruiio ana appoimmg
ten's war mesiace a Communicated, a Jsad hHcer. without If cal authority ; di awinc money
ingjnlend .of,th adminUu'Ati6n of thfscnatej to pay them, without any appropriation by law,
if she was not; and this wasi certainly in unison
with ihe ground the government had Occupied.
I should, however, been content to yield the pro
ject of going to war with both if the government
had revoked what we had done on rrencn ac
countand then - taken our own courssand of
our own accord, against both or either. I did
believe that it would have prevented war, and
that if it did not, that manifesting our indigna
tion in any way at the faithless conduct of France,
would have inspired more confidence, and pro
duced more union without which this government
should neyet hazard a war. On Mr. Webster's
late resolutions "in Congress much able and in
genious argument has been exhibited with re
gard to the effect of the French repealing de.
cree on the conduct of Great Britain. - This has
appeared to 'me a very immaterial question, be
cause we neyer demanded a repeal on the ground
that such repeal was necessary to - justify re
sistance to the British orders: so far from it,
this government had expressly denied that the
orders could be supported on the principle of re
taliation ; and therefore, as respected the dispute
between u and. Great Britain, there was no
difficulty : But we demanded a repeal as a con
dition upon whidh we would depart from our
neutrality on our own account, to make it con
sistent with our own honor and interest to select
an enemy; otherwise we . might, appear to be
driven into it, or to submit to the dictation of the
power benefited , by our ?, interference! The
French : decree, of 1811, published in 1812,
brought liere after , the; declaration of war, esJ
tabhshes the fact beyond contradiction, ib the,
is of no importance that we act' eontrary to our
former professions and practice- We can sayift .
three words cireumttante altef rate. This ia '
a sufficient answer for any thing when the lie di 7
rect will not do. I hope your excellency will ,
excuse me, while I read a 'lettery jnst received' :
from the western f Pennsylvania. .I'll pro 1
ceed in a few minutest These letters are alwaysf
in the way whenever I attempt to address youJI
excellency. . ' - " , ' ',
rrfTsttTR cHrAugi-iothrl sis
....
Friend LucianmA you are in office, and havrf
nothing to trouble you excepting how to get
one more lucrative, or keep where you are, I '
have taken the liberty of laying my case before
you. You must know how tv manage thing
better than I do, and I wish your advice. I, like
Rome, maybe purchased. I have bawled out
tory and all the detnocratick phcasea for hq pur
pose. Much of the best partotrrty Kfe has been
spent in seeking for aft office. ( I, approve of all V
that is past in Mr. Msdison's conduct, and now
promise, if lean gei art ejjtcer to apprpreof all
that may be done hereafter. I must now como 1 '
to some conclusion as to tny fete. There. is nw '
halting between two opinions My patriotism
maybe secured by ao office. You. may thinlc
me desperate,. " but I would sot my life on any .
chance, to rnerid Jtf or be rid on't.' If nothing
else can be obtained, endeavor to have riie friadc
a collector of taxes. I was one of the Headers
of the western insurrection, and, therefore have
no small claims to the attention of -all good de
mocrats. 1 5$ ink I shall ,bave no difficulty Ira
swearing rou$aly that thjajwar is righieous, jusili
and necessary ,beyond any war that ever existed. .. '
I will tell bur' good whiskey democrats, that go-
vernment are managing all things, well ; that 7
Canada will soon be ours; that: we have takeOr ;
York, &c; &c Should they complain about the: V J
tax on whiskey, when nothing else will do. I will
swear that the federalists aid the taxes, but that
they had better s6bm"tt to them. To "cut the
matter short) I'll stick at nothing, give me but tho
onice 01 collector ot taxes.
Your's with esteemy .. .
Datio Desperate.
Pon tny soul this David is good stuff. Mr
Madison wants patriotism of this tarn p.' David-
sticks at nothing good, David, I'll attend to you
in due lime.
Xpur-excdlcnqr- wlUrpKccivcj the- senate.
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