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It- .s - .J .- - ''f v WW' T. 'a . . m ....-. 'kia urnrri. Ma had hPlt ftf UfldSB 7 trrbwth himself, Somewhat of a mushroom, when IP a- : V. ' ' ... . JJ'if .tlil a. pfiINTKDy wke&i. . . f be first startea up m xne worm . oi pouuc--. tfS, wkhool drying any hf j... .-a iwittfA thereof .ball have been eiven, "iS3 not eceed,njr 14 flies, are inserted SrieA-fcr one ddllarf ftir twenty-hve tents esa -up-irice.for i . orioftrtioti where there ', ,rti frrfm nersnhi unknown to thei must accomF-mr ; r -Tiibscriptioncan in any case be received without . Havment of at least &l 5U m . advaace ; and no d.s- iontinaance without paymeni pi arreaxa, ume at vuc flptiiwuf the editor. , -"' - ' ' Congressional -Debates. RICHMOND ARMORY. f The foUowine is Mr. Randolph concluOing speech on tri8 mosi pwrespngiwjec. wsc Vr ia tA nn AniiKt thf Mr.'Tatirlor nad eiren Mqwm v - - j : o r y a characteristic Vep! ta' gefaeral Lee 6a the c easion. i He' reeegauea ine map ia ever wvm that his honorable colleague (Mr. rleasants; had ascribed to him. It was not hisf(Mr. Taj lArM hn.irtfti to rive an advantaee to aoart- ful adversary j grc. -.a T,- - " mmr1iu tUnfcQodl, that closure or ultioiaie ana eoniinseni view-, fisiw'i-- - 7 V ' .T- 'ii w. migh not be, an?in fact were not, realized; WrtiX "oth ff 'Rl 'i? P. . - . - x Jak(l from tin -t at thft state. the friends MPMvrmMt. Af order." thatiwan'the Innsaare. what were the intentUf themaster rIYJS! neiU oi Virginia. lTenitjan um now wu u omca L.m ........ V lliaAnnnSlft r ihAad rtv wnn u iuue id lueic uniu W Uivav MJ i - - norwa9 there ariy thing in the language of Mr. Taylor to mislead, a. sagacious miftd frem "rrj, F?i-riafl Jrmari. Sc.8oitie oars affo.li.-j ,r fir.' nnt the veil, that Ve gave a tiketcb of au incideota! Debate onL6reg(je jpom the eyes f our first statesmen ; .ai r .T.onion i ion iruu cuuuuiuu ui and laid open for the first time the necessity of - . -.t . mi : u .. e,:m that l!a aiik.ai in iliot Hntian of Rirreieiitatives. VUia . . . f. " a " whieb was terminaieu ojr en aajournraenir On the next morning Mr. Randolph again ad dressed the House on the same topic. It appear ing to the Editors that euongh had been given of debate on that point, the remarks of Mr. Randolph on the second day were not publish ed. ye have been since requested to pre sent them to the public. They were as fol lows t ':: ;. 'x , :fd Mr. Randolph said that no' consideration could have induced him ti attend in his place this day, in lus present condition, etcept to say m faar Ards rjithftr hv wav of exnlanation than ,reply to hta worthy cotleagne, (Mr. Pleesaots) - jrbicb he had been prevented from offering yes- , tenlay by the motion tor tho committee to rise 5 Re was apprehensive that he had been mistak . n h hU worth v eolleaarue. nerhaDS bv others having authority from Mr Taylor ftir the " atateneot he had .made yesterday. If he had kn nniWatrttal hi had been entirely misan prebended. He disclaimed all such authority, euner rrom inai jgcuiiemaq v ur jru:u ms umci honorable friend now no moreto whom he had alluded. Had he been the depositary of , their confidence, he humbly, yet firmly Xfusted, that he. would he one of the last men in the world to abuse so sacred a trust. He did not call in question one word, he believed every syllable that his bonrable colleague had uttered. vHnliad salrtrnrji iTJarnera m tbwvXVt9i& memoer of Ih 'aisenibly-nnd he might have i.AAA r-U TVfr. R. with eadal truth, thai no Jmm of iiis years was in fuUerjiossiiioiiWihid confidenee or tnai nonoraoie ooay a. wuuacnso that hit-grown with each succeeding year - : . m-rit-d. The obtett of this cohfi- a tmnnrnhlft both to the 'CiveT and 1he receiver, was of that happy'temperament, which . ....mimiir nf the snrpat ;n. -r i;r. Sir. said Mr. R. 1 do not believe that niy worthy colleague has made a personal enemy in the whole course of his life. Inever even heard that lie bad a political one. This iii ikanntv pireumstance. Mr. K. said, in which he differed greatly Wilis disadvantage,! from his colleague. ' No misrepresentation of at wtaa. trafc V ' Jt A A a a till tit 11 his Mr. r's; language, or eonuuci, w,u,u tka nf nrnhwhilitV -lUtlDOSioe SUch hoV- ver to occuiv be would nver stand in need of Afn1a Thpri "flould be no cause of sur prise therefore at his (Mr. R's) solicitude to - reconcile any jvrvui u " ef oninion with one so generally loved and re- asH-i-.i.Aff.Dihi 4btrt.iti tism irtn nni tcrniiteu lo h S,fTLFa VUVUflVU wf UBV- -w - - r I pm, ' lie should: never forget tlvedeciarauonj of One of the ministerial leaders, (tbe nrst ses- I a .! ' . M t ' .- aL -.A I. .. -V . lv 1 sjon IBM fie, Mr. tw seryeo id ma irauao; lum tb atandih armv fuodn a motion 10 reoee k vaa n.rv ta keen the Dartirans of France! u cheeks Another leader peeond in activity! and tn reputation, tor inmenoe to none, ven- timi) Ia nnt in niihlin indeed, at a Darli. Hon of Virginia by the Blue Ridge, or James Rivera or . both. The erv was. that Virrinia Was overgrown tnat sne was onmanageaoie t nntrful onnucrh to eive mueh trouble toad ministration. Uardljr (said Mr. R.) were te il.timi if h federal foverntnent concealed. -xa. w O .1-11 J .-.i ! I-. ,l..a..i . Lnt Oa. ipsvarniiva ui ruuiw waMr"ir " - i ... J . . : d tnmec apon ana aiseomniea wb I'rii- Mr. Randnloh annealed to DubliC rumor at the time, aud declared that he had (he fact of a design to partition Virginia, ana tue aueag ed reasons for it, from his lamented predeees- ' I Ml. 17 1.1- V' r)..ll.J.n Bur in iiai uuuse. i .r. w cuowic.j ytuiinuta . ...... i. . . . I .1 . ..a.. . I it P - - t, .aaa.t i. ormo. Jnr will it D6 forsouen tnai taiKed fcl " aamissions" ana -couicrsiuus. the B-rwat measure adopted in 17A8-9, was the, He bad made none he had none to make he 9 J t... !,:- ti.nv friii r von r a nrnnnied bv . him twenty four years i.r..- nn hA V of a runture with the head ol the empire, viz. arming the body of the people I . I J . --a .lal-' tliA ncilililo and who wouia aare i. j i rvr,v" were unfit to be trustea wuu arnis r . r-rir.lnti Rked if there was no ease in Hal. .wf " ... .1. ' ivtiiati Ilia I'll ileastue could ugtity resistance against the encroachments of government upon the privileees of the people, or of the rights of the st"" " jvuuu ii . - 7 ouegtion touching human affairs, to be govern ed by a sound discretion. The assem&y dis- played that uiscreuon; - 7:0- fesponsibility with a dignity and firmness which 1I1 .i....Iri.B,i. and be trusted would ever govern the proceedings 0f that anoient and . . --1.1. . 'lMi-v hull .flEr.citV Venerable coramonweauu , - 0 - to perceive the approaching danger, and wisdom aim courage iu uw 1 . had no anuloaries to offer Yireinia stood on her defence the knife was at her throat she was to le hambled iu dust aud ashes, and if she had not resisted, would have riehly deserved th p. rhftiua that were forein for her. Was the eoatestei election, which almost immediately ensued ketween Mr. .lettersou and .nr. tturr, forgotten ? We did not then (said Mr. R.) re lv U orm iha liiehmond armorv. not vet w ooer a- at v m m ation, but on the United State armory at IJar per's fr jrj. At that 1 quish tin long enjoyed sweets of power MJien the sun rose upon this house, ballutiug through the nigli aud through successive days, for a chief migistrate, (he well remembered the scene) Had we not, said he, the promise ot i;,Ip. Rn.1 of the arm9 at Harpers tlferry, wkich he engaged 10 secure m case ot an 1-! attempt to set up a pageant under color! la I to supersede the puuiic win, unci "'"o . Thev knew that lo- election by the pertinacious au it. They did not content themselves with reso lutions and reports. They were statesmeo, not - 1 iir. iciipw LiiiLL iu- vivv'"1" "J -" i . protessor inaouuivc.D.ij. J lh" 'nretence of exercise of coastitutionai rigm, 10 lt was no match for the bay.n and the J ' Pr" 0 of h persons returned by artifice, vided bayoneisi at the same tune taking car t. mA t0 abUor. General Ha- put themselves in t heng htjyj - Jm ,t0D httU 0WBeti indignantly upOu (this un: swerable and triumphant appeal to n , r . nPB.-4ilir-. for whieh he paid the. for- eda-ed facts' and to the great euaraeier VtfjF: '".A,!. ..-i-.t of this creat maii 1iiry. r-W V.r?f"::i;;l.ainflj4. f. rfor uch. althouirh Mr . R. differed wuh Mm in niaitand Woiie, la-tma V'- - he" truly was) first-opened his authority, between uie : parem ---5--; v . - . Maater; At tllii -tfe.tft.n4liiw r-r::::r;::-s n;rid of aboroaehine confusion and eeueral federal government ; V,07j J,,, the president" elect (then g -veTnor ol from th? states, now .pnrning iu " v. J.J.'ahad deemed it advisable u establish intoxication ot power r x,u, .-p , H,fthmund to t is idace. a rr iin ninacr inipr ni iuku uik-vs m bUK" collea5uestiiou present, , r. Shef- younger branch o, .n,.- . ,f,v) could tell some thing about thes videttes, . JZUrn .n.dncTVouac- hiog made the expose a subject . enquiry jonn .Af,hA'Ht a subseanent ses.iui of. the : legislature ed under bis nana iua: rTh;V Every appearance betokened the brea.irtg , a.t.n . n Mai afUBiaClllII 111 BUI n V Baa W w aw- J af FreUI"fi i":-",". - were drawn by the pre- of the ledepal compact, when the opponents and ascribed to I P wfr-2" n r,,o nhlin constilutiouallV Dronounced, sent President of the uniteao, wu .r - their opposi- oir,iiw , . 1 iia.iinli caid ihnt hostility to irstnia Anridare liu not sianu aa tuu ... H. yn. r - -- - --7 " tion1 of consanguinity to the mover of theKen-va9 the cardinal principle ot the politics ol a tuckv resolutions, but I was in habits of politi-, great variety of descriptious oi persons, who a cal intimacy with him, and I assert, wlthout:reed ip nothing else. Haying discernment to CUI Hill""' j 1 . .. 0 i '. I :rt. ;.. 1 a nnnlUilpmPv iS' article fceldV 'from thin FidAral nant.h: Can eaCplana the inisuridentandinp. hetrin ' tho stnate. sod houtw, which forced Presi dent Wohro to take the oaths of office out of doort. " " 1 ., To the Eiitolt tf ifvt Federal tUfuhlican and Baltimore TeUmvimh i . - "I -:- " GtvTLRfttft-f enclose yea for publication if yon like, tie correspondence between govern or oaroour 01 tna venaie,mnti Mr. speaker tiiay relative to the eertaony inauguration. The Senate having received a message from the Pres ident elect, that he Vfould attend, in the hail of the House tf H epresentativei in take the oath, Sft. $ the mnai order was taken in the fcusines, ana a committee 01 arraogemeot was appointed, who agreed thH ai the II. of Reprtentativei would be disaslvd o L 3d nf Mareh--Otat Ut9eiqVt'-MsHta seistoo ia rtehttl, being, larger and Jnrf eanvenient.-r Afttt fbS ! arrangemenls' were "settled an interview tookt place, he tween Mr. Barbour and , Mr. Clay, which produced the enclosed eorrespondenee Th- tfnmmiltpp. l!ndinj ttipnnailsa nn.KU A ." - vww.f.v.vp g . a..M.a v wa- M U U W . V ft proceed or account of. the difficulty : thrown . -V 1 -a. a ffk ' n ' m a t ' - l1 in ineir way oy ine speaker or tne House, de x termined to bring the subject before the Senate, i After a short speech, explaining what had pass ed, Mr. Barbour read tft the Senate the eorrer . pondence, and then submitted to that body any further order in the ease. Mr. Kiva expressed his regret that any int ' pediment should have been thrown in the Way of the committee of arrangement. It warrenv dered obviously proper, however, by the cor respoudence just read, for the Senate to take " some further order in thecsslvJHj)Qai)aa1prb JLeWnneetedr idea that tB Sei nate, as a body, could with, propriety qhit its a-n.. n .la t. A 2..,. Jla!-. ment. The Senate lost sign 01 111 owa uiguujr . when it agreed to appear as a body in any place where its own officers could not enforce the rules of order, &c. Such would be the ease it the Senate repaired to the Representative Half, . Kn.lv. nnd if thev did not oroceed there as a body, he for one would not attend the cere- mony. He added mat tne uimcumea wuicu had arisen in this case, strange and unexpected as they might he, were such be hoped as would A a I ' I at 'a. a.ak.a.BB.4( inculcate a very useiui lesson, ana .10 prevcuv the Senate from ever, hereafter, agreeing to ' . - - i J a leave their own aparimems. n nioveu u ex punge from the journal the order under Which, a committee of arrangement had been appoint ed. . Mr. Caibhll Wa'e inclined to think, that a proper seone of dignity would dictattr differ ent though extremely simple course to the Se nate, wfiieh was to take no notice whatever of the obstacle thrown in the w ay of the arrange ment proposed by the committee, but to pro- ceed with the arrangement precisely as if the correspondence just read, and the interview re ferred to had not taken place. The wan who was then Speaker of the House of Representa tives, would be without authority to-morro, and would have no right whatever to give rany orders concerning the Representative Hall- He therefore much preferred that no motion wpuldJbe made or further order be taken in the case, but that the committee of arrangement; would proceed to perform the duties assigned to them. opinion with one so generally tlMlait .. ' - - f T?ndAlnh akid that the only favor he a.'VnJ a nn mn?a 'hand who auoted him on that floor, was to use his own wonls, and to take th aitathar ...v.H honed that he was not witua Diivavtuv -, ! understood as complaining of unfairness, or fniarenreapntation. on the Part of eithef of his honorable colleagues far from it. He was not in ttA hnttit nf n.insi words "Wlthoul SOOie defi- bite signification attached to them, and nothing ; was easier man oy a aupposeu jiatojiun. one passage and the omission of another, by -vhiph it niiftlifipd. ntterlv to distort, the original meaning and intent of the speaker. What bad be said? A questiontbeing under.deh beration to abridge materially the rights of the atatP-i h bad (fpplnrpd that" hv the right pro- posed to be taken away, this union Aad been i Ji saved from incalculable mischief and.misefy ? That by throwing (as she had an undoubted ' right to do) her whole weight into the Elec toral scale, the Commonwealth of Virginia l halt .nfi.lilntinn.llit pffpptpd a ehan-e of H.ia wwa...i.ww.. -" n ' M ministry, and checked the" mad eareer of am . u bition and usurpation, which otherwise, she ; might have been compelled to resist at the "hazard of the greatest of all calamities, the " abject surrender of their rights excepted, that 4 a people eoold eudure of a civil war for M there was no 1 longer any cause for eonceal w ing the fact, that the grand armory at Rich n mond was bnilt to enable the state of Virein- ia to resist, by force, the encroachments of r wen .administration -upon ner inaispuu-me u rigbts-i-kpOn'tfi plainest and clearest pro- r V.cifiiia t ttta aaV.naai.eial'.j.n ' Ssm . pft.fi ttieV " yw tyua iiiuviuu, TT79mm - . .4 : tt should perservere in those outrageous procee - dinr. A nd Wk had b . aaid ? . Because 'tne priaeipiel an the men of that day, sueh ex- a.-. 1 m 1 . ., a m m . a ' a Pu wnose praetiee oeiied their men proiea . ' - SionS. had hin laid naida; and nw nrincinleS ' T 1 Z V f. " - r- 7 r; ' . ttlore eonvaniatit- fnp mpn in ' nnu.-ir. nud heW metlaNadriph nti....m.i Wat lima ' and Innp jlitfeei had never been pronounced joat of their 1, jn parishVhad come into play.-. &lrt R. said : . hoped no invidious eonslraation woald be via rr.. t,.,.ioA- that tli Senate, mindful iui nu v r 1 uv.u, f - of what it owed to. itself, and influenced 4 proper sense of its dignity, would engage in no mi..iii .nnimiwnii with the other branch, or 1011, no I . . :.- opportunity was let slip of attackiu, them. Their stability was not the lst part o, tueir r -- et he1b rd of natrilce at thein is to aim a. iuu nee -- -- .-o.. . .l . re value. fpr of contradiction, that tue resoiuu ' : perceive iuai. hi 1 - . 1 1 . ia 1 11 fu hi w-n.iif v .. .. . ..ii'inw vyi iii iih lu iuc iiuluiuvi " " ed and carnea in iuc acgii" . ; uas u""p j-- . ! Ti". . mam,hlp occasion, sorune from thdt!,utI0US4 than to her territory or population, no u.nu - - '.'.,. - .1 a,-, i.t f Rit.ctiiir them. same vein, of rich red lanu ueiweeu i. hannoc and James tcver, wuicu iiiiuc favorable to the Presidential growth. -Mr." Randolph said, that when he spoke .ot the present President of tbe Uuited States, as V next toldKTaylor,'? in: that session he assembly of Virginia, l7-wuo,uB ... reference to the activity and. zeal displayed by each, ia procuring the passage ot the general ticket law :tbe great measure of the session, on which the approaching election of president hineed. Did the gentleman recollect nothing of Mr. Taylors, leaving the house and going i.a..'aa .i.;ti hv aim.H was construed iuto a ruse de guerre to draw; away Irom the seat o - . ..a a.a t aU-...A linnrf til tll of that bill, aitnougii ouc"c v...j Mr. R. had some reason cause ui ipuiiuwm" , . i ii. to believe that Mr. avs abseutmg himselt, nn that occasion, was the ettect 01 uisgusi. ne a 1. . ..1.1 . li A ..... j k.,.rr. apt ins suouiuer IU me a V a-"- "-"j ,x . 1G Iltfial ' O s W -At hl& ofithe difficulties thrown in the way of the com Die "'I ..... ,t a . . . t . . id... wheel, and the bil was .paM-d"' ; ; fetW whereby a fraJdulent deb that if he felt any thing ie - L.e bankrupt to day, might drive ove prcsiaem, .V' Ja.r.ah pro.l,rr 10-uiorrow i.i a splendu of Achilles, ltwaertwihgio the fox .ho had lost h,s ta, J . a mus .rijen, he saw nothing left but SrrS bythegentlenian LI ir.fl.1 UIIU f .-1 ... mid iflfiit. orth all. the visions GUIUIDUU vm- " . . ..I. .. 1 . . .. . Mauta.i iiBiiir 1 iip imaciuaiiuii vi ma ever - WI.KU - - o - . ...oonstrucfr philosophers. Mr. Rr ut -d-into a refutation of some of the vulgar erro s on the subiect of his native state, wnicn p.LVttric.. even-nn' the north bank of the rotoinac, ana would disgrace a Virginia sehool-boy. lhe : -a, r..avnlpnt unou this subject was scarcely credible, and the mass of these vnlgar errors would swell a folio equal to that of the celebrated sir Thomas mown, un me wr tion ol laads from debt, he said the lavr of Vir .v.. iviih some relaxations, that ot Imi ciaiiCak .) . . . I .1 I. . f a u I aaa r S fl til fll P TCI ill vountrv in the p-iauu, mc giw"-" .- li- vvorld. They had 1.0 law impairing the obh character of this pres when he' would studiously avoid shewing it. n l 1..1 .n tn tne correctness wi colleazue's declaration respecting Mr. Madi-- son's great weight 01 cnaracici in tbe legislature oijurgim-., ---- - he (Mr. R.) had not been bred aa idolator, to worship the rising sun, now that the president -if. . . a la ii.ltnlV ! had no longer power or pairouo5c ... v now- that ' bis oru was siuauig jcuiv.-.v.,, i . i J.I....J IV.iirl tha west ' even hewouiu uov ue uw.i saying of him' that he was a great man, j iu . . i.i., ,uaa in anntA raneets---4 such no unquesuinai . r-- i- ...:.h.t him nil li&iinineBS in ana ne smeereiy .w. --- rr , . his retirement, as sineerelyhs- he wished it for Mr: Randolph again adverted to the state 01 things in 1798 i8Q0.He ud that tne opp lltioiif.lhaVtime hypoerisy,if it was not aiarmen ai iw w--5 1 "". , . h.il unes seen army,smauas uwas wjwts?. iwat with approbation. For, hisrpart, he feltUhe over his half-shod crcdiur to-uiorrow in a splendid . il i i . a l nniP A equipage, tmce a ueui, aiwojs a uC. , -wife; always a wife, except in very severe cases when the legislature did some times but rarely grant divorce. These were the greai out y-., . . i i, nA h declared a a. aAm.al7 U till Illlll IT I Fa .1 uu mv oi our iioucuvj . that there was not a country on the faC e ot he ... l j nnnpiinn m the value of the oue, wucrw, iu if k , LiiaUioHs. so littlemoney was lost by bad w , . a - . I a nun I nKt.. or where the standard 01 eum. was higher. agreeable to - iiTiin'i.' ia ik.pbliv (riven, that J j -.i ..,at iiatpd on the llth day ol .Prd,18U. fromJoh lt..Oaryto Henry Aubj the .aid, l ciW of HaleiEh on puti,csaea.. .UdwTneneeen' SZSito JordiHftidlisa-n.- chel and her child. y u iiaiar POLlC tviM JaiSF.VAMf. lliisa iUIT-Iviat . Mr. M asow. of N. H. tbeuebt it most advi sable not to hasten any decision, hat to 1st the' . ...... ..... . - T 7- iLi--L--k'-iraaiHj question lie over for a lew pours, mereuj uui ing an opportunity for the Other house to renje"; to some decision lofi the question wbiehrwoold most likely come neiore mtm, as a oirap gone to them on illje subject. If the House should agree lo oner tueir uau ru .m; or should determine to support their Speaker in his view of the case, the Senate eonld then act definitively and properly en the object. Itf the event of their refusing the une of their hall, 1; the Senate could then reply to the message, af. the Presidentelect, and inform bin that i! was not in their power to meet -him , etJhe place r a a S . a. L. tf hrval M al 1 rt M M A t ntfW " named by him nui iuyuj m.,-,-. in their own chamber, or in any ; convenient place to be eppoihted. The last thing he ..... ! IJ L.l.,,.!..!.!. .111; rill. should thinK oi, wvuju uc iu mi" pute. withTthe Speaker of the other house on the subject, " . The sybjeet ace ordingry lay over-untii ine night session, when after having waited ever al hours to near i rem me houbc, .m saee beine received, Mr. Barbour, of lhe com miitee, informed lhe Senate that the eomroitteo r-i I I.i. L..: ...mimniNlll UDDS Would proeeeu-.wiMi . ai w their on responsibility, if made.' soil at tne same ume.iw- .......m.Bii ..nMU. No obieetioBs wei MareT17Tl8n . . j aa-ifti;-.i, ihp eeremoaV Vtas set tied, as carried into exeeuiion the next day Thus ended this; etrange . affain;.. March d, I817. SiR-In the informal conversation 1 held witb yotj tn.day on the subject of the proposed ocett -7
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