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.''7-' :U -i . ' ' ' ' ' " ' -' .i i "'f't" ' i " '""" ' i " 1 1 ' ; .'Mh RALEIGH, (N.fr) " LUCAS. Three collars per year, w ;ot organised, or equipped in tneftf a rotooaf SA be reqneated to lay before the house of were pepper iuH seme eUn&cani, in this csei irmnf ubcripti9 i ot exoeedinjr 14: li are inserted! tht jawg ought to immediately amended. tv,r r a .11 . tOTntVifive cenTi eamiWMilt1kk o.am hart Armhrrtd in hVW it tni flee UW ""-.V -U0,tKnU ut insertion : aud in Uke Pte Juaereater number oflmes than ortoeTli-dM. v, a gwer neroni unknown to tike) JJIUIIC aW"l',V 1 " , 7.? i IU01V . l Mr'.tliniri: o wbscf iption can m any ca5 uc v -j--, .v Jntof at kasl 1 50 M adTance, and no ..(inuanee without payment of f rear v o)',VMn,Qf-th? editor jjXo wbscf iption i Congrcsiional Proceeding. ts the nooja or ,EPBST-Arjv. : "IVednesdaytDee..: , ? revert ti thU'date ia the proceediBsija r.r,. firVh' in ordor to Kire thTeoiK of HeH'n. Cly; Rrt-en ,Vty e 4oW niiu w kim.il-.TjrWrtr the 4ewW ajwiWmn n eong-css ; md as -then murk alluded u aWve were included . Iurt ,e,t Cy the President's mvage, I eaonbt mil ton n in tqe pifsenv paper Htary eof p. Oft thia ease he rciil4dait the tXuse no longer, fee y ajd ff b wu eatUied BDoeared! tu hini it beeame the Congress to interpaie its asthority. Persoas laUfoa ; aiader ,ihe fl off inn provinces uau oeen arrigneq la oar eoaris IM tried for piracy ; to 4de aUe after hav tag beei arraigned, tried, aad .acquitted of ni. tilt yt the same individaals, 'pn (he inrtiyition f a Spaatsh ofSer or agent, fead heeo arraign sd ajpuafor the satiao offence. . Xhe areotfe- taa bum Massaettasctts would correct bUa if he. wis wrong t for the case had occurred in the to at Btrtlon. We admit the flag of loese colonies rqiooar pons, ova flxr. L;. ; we pefsi. to be neairai tut if or laws ipro possess and thrak proper te eotnoinnieafe, relative to the independence "and" political eonditlon of the province of Spanish Ameri Wy:r ' ':-r "V--. ; Mr. Robertson said, that he soppoied there woold he no objection to the adoption of the re- s tlutisil which he had iuat snhtnitted to the eon- iiaortuon oi ine xionso. ue roaod. from the late message of the President, 1 that the atten tion of the boueas well as 6f the pation, had Deea, n a general way, directed' to the situ a tioo of Uie provinces of Hbanish AnYeriea. The President had observed too, and Very trujy, that the citizens of the United States svniDa- thtsed in the evtnts which affected their neigh- usars. jur. W aid, that, as far b&ok Hi the vtaf t&ll. thti aahieet had uTPitAd J(hnHkra. (We interest j that a committe had, hcett raised : lhU denraion of independence arid the edb- For Ue letter nnd?rstaadiag of the suljoct, fin .j j0a(i',.e. tlmt however treaird the irsolutiari saiiHrulted by ir, pjay is 3aiu on rhis tioor willbe foaod a aaardi mKfriMI I Anil that the said Tster oVaoinal as the bftfilerty rpial and the port, amnr other thinss, expressecHnach tood- other prosecuted as pfnite,.t'hit U ooght id' will towards the Venezacleaus,ai) 1 ajiiiiteausu healtert-4 if ire mean to prfirai oar neutral acknij.vledie their, inpendence wjieuever rofbi'sion. 1 hare "bfntnght the .subject be-, that indeperdenee whejieverthatipdo'pcadcnee fore this House thns prp!lv, said Mr. C. he-'Sboald be achieved. Fronj that Ijcij till the $ause I trust tbt iiiLtr iliste tje cause1 will present silence had beo abserrHl to legard tu elsewlijre,! the ftttairs tit that part ol the etjutrnea.. - The reason was oiivmiia ; we were euon a?te' engag ed in war whh England, and since Aim peace bur 9wu pressing concerns had ocenpted our at tention "' saardian interests i aH.rtidi'ig to oar. prroroi'iuee-rtr te jmt otjz eoniauttee lie msfroctcd , 33.,n, 0f oeraluf Hitherto he said, what eni'Hre whether any, a'i.1, ifnj w5-d. pw-. vrwiil' have been our inteutioMi, ur aets visiJins of la are nee- sat v iO . e if-V't; to i ii.;an onlnnii of Snai. a WSt wb4e-VHP.ee. is mis v va'- u s nai7 jiiwjj I lie liril The president has spoken, sir,' of the inter- m'm at . nrt ,.f 41IX li til in famaii..). ..i . Blf and I tl T hi', tl u t h w an fall -llla .if-..- ( of the dmies lucident to the neutral ret a.ri '" idiUoii 'S'pisod to be orgAnifcing wi Lnaisiana, pT ' southemiiejgbpri,.. Pj-haps it nvty be saW vfhtch the United gtat?v'stah d, in the, existing an;e5e?Hr,',n mtir; oIy m the mcid of- the ' with truth, that no snbjecl eites throoghont war between them and Spain. ' jCwevVilWrtie 0ts, ibun fo" the. late Act whe-thc civihtyd world a siroogcr intpf f st than the Mr. ' Clay said,, that his, p.re?eptrng, "at so.ta?r the .j4e4(,U'e wa a pfnper oneor nnt he f'eealest w 'which the provinces of Spanish A earlrm period rJie seion tins sni.jeet to the xl a .,0t fiar: ui ai;tLLneein ih kxeautive meriea Ate eneeed.. :'lf?er ' wind that hW. ennsideration of the house, wfts iccon.irtesie ,,, , 'iap,,0M it wa 1oited oeee'n.g rfcic'i be lad geen re-: ,Ni-aa u thc;o: hT fbr''i on tihicnt rf certain proeee'n.g rfcici be ad geen -:Niai-..wn t.r thc:o: h'r fbr:.soppresvinff, presented in the pr.ai,! pfiitts as naving miM, it .j. tf,tblihmc.uit At Amelia nlaee before certain f ear ru.i,i. ' fkub.I i.tislva.zti wu -.it! tje aets of tha T, Hipm aM i-insr on nia sunieei : fltfttptathe house. 'I'iie ii'sl had... seen red a; IT 1 -7 - rhiladelphia, before the circuit ttourt ofthe'CJ. jt&tes held in mat cuj. The circumstances, ef the case, for whieh .however he did not prttMil to va.ieh, having received them throuchtMj chejinel already in dicated, were these, if they were inconactly wafts to onr shores the schemes and enecuJa tions of ffurnrfiin statesmen finS po!Hieis froiii theJVftzPh regions of the north tn the nu! le'r iiait of the peninsula, it elicit remark gevermeat hceo : oh oi.e si-.U they "all Uhi omtaandaUeiitio.n. Even Alexander, he b:M hstfue C iLuias, -against the. ?aose iti'j'pVV. abbaf peace add bible so- rfMsh the Ddiriots of iuth Apcric were, ar-l.61' nS'e he uUets the award ef battte dMsifenjj-u5d-it be4;ne Us, he said, to apretesi!.- weapons .of. destruction, the looV t(Vt'ie. other side, htjaeitly inttnding tw'u-'M if said, is at..uL tv Ornish his Coisaeks to ;riitv, litlievSd welii.'... Ut- iii' reeol4' VtfiiJwrKrs .of, f. it i already e'allctl leu faeeo:iJioiol the puirits : no -iniaiHt'erTthi .tvat.aI.dmUh. I he tb?uilers of the. nop a t !pv' a'lf oo govenrnhwit,'as 1 was said' ii n-ii" 1 -d -cr the chrisiian ebureh, begao. jnii'iaiitig, n! ip xppeareu m iii'n yery cati-i" "tv :v' a.n msan aiiieu'115 -giving np tue-peepie ot o ;ih Ameri-. cajbojy and ni, to ji .puaisaaiw 1 i!c here aithcieafterto thd'crira.s.af r?heitnV&d"rsv. by n-jUfeianps- in dt'dseuence uf .(he. iiifti:eaes British disbanded offirs had farmed in ISnWne .. a il-7;''-": -i.t. "Vifcl to rry into otiwct tins , . , , ., . ... ., .. '.:.. them end Spain t that to rry intention, they had sailed from Europe, and in their transit to South America had touahc I t the port of Philadelphia; that duriogtheir re sidence in Philadelphia, wearing ptrhaps the arms and habiliments of military men, making "o6disgtitse of their intentionto participate iu the struggle, they 4ok passage in a vessel botrnd to mie port in B'-Ameriba; that a know ledge of this fact having come to the ears of Ibe pnblic authorities, or, perhaps at the instiga tion of some agent of the Spanish ppvernmeut, a proseeition was cnm.nenced against thee of ficers, whe, from their inability toproauro bail, Mere "confined in prison. . If, said Hr. C. the iftrcamstancs attending, this transaction be enrreetly stated, it becomes an imperious duly in the bouse to iitsutute ine enquiry coutempU C. said, waa what ours had been, in ihe year t773 anl t'9 tueir Ministers, like our Franklins and Jays at that day were skulk ing aboUt -Europe, iniplviug icexorable Icgiii mucy l"ir one kind look ; some aid to termiiiare a -Uva r -a filiating huta ittyrN raytheir-si ttr ation wvs worse thaa ours i for we had ouo great : and magnaninouaIIy to recognize u, out ue nation had stepped lorward to acka nv- dught to be kaownbut he Mggcsiiedlo the mover of the refo-lnthiliwhether it was hot toojbread io its caUion (he Kiee&tite St whetherirt "onght not to eontaioV the total Qtralification of ftceptin soe inCorpjalioa as the prendent might deem tbecomihinreadoief incompatible with the pobv. lie (nterat. Mr. P pVeiamed the president had conununicatcd alt 1lia hp knew, or all jjthat h . wisitd ionfrress ifoiM on the f abject J.Hld as it was QtiialfinVeusiiBg ihfbrmatien ef the. Exf cniiveto ask for stieVohfy as the pablio. interest wobdd, fai hiaopjhiofi, permit to b disv closed, h proposed so lc modify .(fajs motion in which khape bely cbsld he consent to Veto. rr it. '. f V;, ! Mr Kobertsbn signified .h'''rMe).t:'tv Mr.Fefyh's proposition,-; , - Theigvplutinn parted rtera.-cori as medifi'sct. and a eomtnittee of rw6 -was anDointed to, wail ith prejidefe-t kiWH. Uecemhr St tdirv.,Sd&ntu Land.lt. JLohnaon of Ky. reported a bill, authorizing a eomatatatieii oi Boiaiers'.uannty jjanas. . . . -The 'first, seetiohof this bill provide that jtha soldiers of the lae aed present army shall be allowed to .commit their land patents of claims for money, at the-rate of one dollar and forty cent pel" acre,, to be paid in oar annual instalments,. by the Jrenston Agents appointed in the everal Slates proved that there be ia all Cat.es a Complete r -linqnistiment ofallciaimt on said laiHls h the commutators to the U. 85 The second se tian of tbe bill makes the apv propriaiion ptecssary jo earry the trst into ef fect ; ...... ,-.7-.-. -v 7. -. The bill was twice read and committed. ...,' Amelia talni and fifponisft Fatriotg.-&lu Rhea uffered for -consideration the following resolution : "'. J. Jltsolvidj ThA the President, be requested to lay before the House of Representatives any information he may possess, and think proper to communicate,, relative to the proceedings of certain persons who took possession of Amelia Island, at the mouth of St. Mary's river, near the boundary of the slate ef Georgia, in the summer of th present year, and. made an es Ublis!imanf therej and ase any fnformatiott he bath, and may think proper totmmnnlcatc, rrlarive to an establishment made, at an earlier period, f by persons of the same description, io the Gulph of Mtien at a place emllpd Galves tea, wilhio the lieoits of tt)'u. &? as weeonfend, ander the eesilijacf Louisiana ; tcgftber wiih le remnrs ihiTicfng him to tiie order to frtpi juiii;ea:ii.n. IT, then,-, to goveo'nts across' PTeg said establishroents. . the Atlantic, the siioation of th?s jjcqdU w JVr. Mea saidthat the est iiiuslfhfefettag7airVtv" i"t is not a mMr ef sor1 -m tEe resoTation he had jost offered haa prise that the ciiizeWof the Untrsf States ",reawJ "cnea mu.cn aueniion xnrongooni ine ahouid vviiu oine sylteitiide t..rn i eooatry, which wonld he still more attracted tioj towa.ds iK:n. Every retiabiiota in ilT tQ thal Pint by the order gfvo to soppT uu.Ud sUultJ liiait IdiDt-ii; lirir disasters and esult in tbtir: triumph :. they do but XVow the xaaij4-wehtt ysrt-t4tcjy m ywy , c r wlqTjr and our l'auie tu resistance to -arhitit.-y power and tiie peleefpa.iish Ameriev end afPo- thcrs, groaning uuuoroppressioit, must owe their jedge any of these provinces. Sueh dis-arity jwratioa "d M-ortb of character to the same rties, Mr. C. said, deiuandad a 'Cireuiai?iaacev ii.ty between the parties oo but follow in oiir font- jHst fttterttiouto the interests of the party which 8,eP ,n v" t J2y ordjguU';h faet : was anpreseutud ; and if the facts whsch icl " kmowO mroiignout the wmid : whatever of had mentioned and others which had eome to hi knowledge, were eorrect, they loudly d manded the interposition,, of Congress. Ue trusted the House (vonld give the subject their X.M ...1 . I I . a.1 - .I td by th amendment whiah I have 7 proposed. " 8:. J? That this was an extraordinary ease was de-'ir ""VVi ."f"""" . ' '"?""".".' .... iii .t- - 1. 1 rctturucu m resDeci ia onanisii rvtuorica. oiinsiraii ny iftt.'t 01 iuc Kciicrat ieniioui 1 . a - , ubich it had excited on the snbjeot,io the p;acel SS! consevjuenca of he where it had occurred. ' Filled as tht respect-;fH bwing-aMealed to hini, not to enter able and popnions cityJs -with men diSerin2!fnl?,ay quwtion presented a v-t a t j a I j in tn ' 1 au 1 . widelv on political toniei and ehftrtain .va-lV? amendment, .out ,te spoas none views ofpublie att&u Mr. C. said, prevailed 00 rs, but one sentiment,! W50'1 W? h'9 kn,owled59- Hie sta e- 1 this suhieot, whieUi'mnt-w,M,.a b tha V substantially r..A.nkl a ika novanna li..D ....!...,! IVQJTOCl it was also etrrcct that the oircum- , Stan 06 had occasioned considerable sensation a- fmnng all parties in the citt of Philadelphia. With regard to (he conduct of the court on! 4k:-- r.i 'i 1.1 .1.: .l- . imnnsan parties poet which, whilst he had a seat 011 this floor. ; reeapita ated the principal lasts, adding he should always shew to every depdrtmeot ofiT . f Vf udh the,B PfSjW the government : the respect he entertained l'1 was adea with muuUio of w ir. A re fer the honorable -Jodgo who had presided, Fh ad ,iiteutioris -of tbd persona forbade him from pronouncing thedeeiio,iofiaPPreU6oae,,Mr- ? aid, ho beaevei they .bad Kat eoarUto-havehaen unw'arrarr.ed fcy-iaPfBTf'S But he felt himself perfectly sustained in say-!tl,e Jw of he United State- and that nuevr W. that if tl.n iiitlowTa.' o,.,.;0,i k onduct had been perreetly deeorou and c.ir- the existing law,it was the imperious diilyVf et. 1 he coHrt hd tbo t they had oOended a- congress to alter tbe law in (his respeet.Sli,'M,t t,,e Aetof Congreiis of the last aeion ;l iyjuiy'jtieirpatisiii or priestcraft liave eUstainrd whether froni the revolution of France, or itat which no, I. hope, lionrisiiss in onf hemii phcr.e, is laid to tV account of our gt irioi-s revolution, and tlie exeeiicnt principles of onr eonstnution.. - It is to be regfetfed, Mr. Speaker, that onr acqu-aintanco with Uie ncopie of "nanish A- meiiea is not nure particular and iKtimato 'than t peint hy the order given (0 sorpresss' them. Ilis object in efferinar this motion was to obtain such information as might satisfy I lie mindf tfceawrtSrtfrf eoTi cv f tbavir.pasurr. Mr. Jf'orsyf 'i , Triovcd To strjke out the last clause of the proposed, resolution. It would be an extmiriiuwy course jfor the House to ask for the reasons of the measure in question when tbey wrre distinctly and satisfactorily a vdwed in 'ihcJSicssag'e of (the President. To call ntton bin;; itTter that fipdsilion, to eipleid the ren?o::s for his conduct, would h to cast a severe rcfteciion on the executive,- as implying1 dissatisfaction '-'tat. the' reasons alrrady pirin F01 his own part, r.-F. said, the tondnel of the .? xeccUTe appcured to him to have been, perf?etjy eorreel $ but ie S'ed no objection to a ny :n it ion desired, ff iskcd f.r nncounect ed with thVclausa he had excepted to . l-.,lliigk- JYf!saby of Vs. twice ttddressed ni. ciuciuiii uui. one senti;nent n mntiu. ti n. ...'....v:...int . V--0,rifee,,,f Areftn.lu n"; J llm heins interrupted in ins remarks by inej. ....wv-. i r"l' "'iic" dental cireumAisnefo. we have connected hi a s aesiraoie . o-iig : ue no long . r saUered . to; observations inlbe' following rrporr of the sub-' remain in doubt. Mexico, Vnn, CbiL, B-.e- 8,anee of them. A few remarks ar,e ailded oosAjfre., V tfneeiy' Aetv Urchad.,, are which thHnterruptions refened to prevented independent . A:e they stroggl,j, ; u7 hj) ffoW maI-'ifl Mr. N decidedly in pendai.ee, of ' h ive iy y:!dBtf to a:r Euro- favl r of th motion Like (he honorableSpeaki pe.antjv.ir..-. - itavc .hev iiia kii Hva lheir -r. wbo hsi! alluded ttf thii 'matter whm 'In sitjiatd i, io c ;j cs excss'itivc deport fi'jnt r Have they uenim,!?fvi to' t)v rc.ipgiuzed n iu h-M nden! iovcreitr.itii- i etfc-et-iaFr" -i;c, i t "!iVgj"s Jain re, excii y.'.ii'iUf.Tr 1 uy tod eol!cet ' iaxe,-r aujj:-.i. "i.TTica u:d navies It is p-s tnese :z7i .tie t i uit ioci'ftn n dilt u vn: y "well k ma ft ft" tc tnd c and .?e that 0: i ' prei- thr have ror what, he a.'ied, was the neutral ohU-wr T9 ir iea. ot iuat opinion, .mat intyioeun u., .men or ;ng:i rssp?rt !) ty. tion which one nation owed to another en-nd tbgt.it necessary '.to detain them. The h ,l J ! P ! i '.vi ..l'r'jiv -U? vr v eta mo V e u sl a ia war ? The essence of irir thlrrhailhl&t'' bu' they "wereliof "a jNew. (iren;dttr Bnenos Ayns and M-xie'i,. in belligerent means' of the neutral ahall n.t't UM procure it,' and were, therefore,enmuiit- this1 oonutry, 'anJ, - for any .thin I know to the emolovedin the war in favor of aifh nr ,-! ea to jtadl. It was because of the correct de parties. That is the whole of the obligation,' P,,rtt,,ffnt ,,f th"o persons, that the sentiment f a third party in 4 war between two others :'; ,n thMp.fIJ&J,a,l boeo so generalbut no fecertaiuly does not enquire of one riation t'e,00,P'a,r,l warnwdarcT the Court, for which strain the belligerent means of other natio.is.. 1,10 "aiao re,PB" was ontartaineu wun wmcu 7 ;Tl-u i . - k : 1 ! 1 1 .1 ' a l 1 mo jpsascr iiiinscit jjaa regaruea 11, ue uau ! mentioned these fact only that the house might, wnn tie time came-tor acting on it, oe aware of the construction put oa tho existing law, so far a any had baeu gi ven. The.avnendinent moved by Mr. Clay to the first resolution was agreed to without opp'osi tion ' - -- .. "r-:-1- ' The committee, of the whole rose and report ed their adoption of the several resolutions mov ed by Mr; Taylor, with the amendmeut, whieh the dodae agreed to, new. cob. and the eonuut tees wera ordered to be appointed according ,7v;:;';;: .;; ;7.--. :;;.;'., 7 ,; V.;'--:; .:.:-;.; :' ',''-' ''"l'1';' 7 : . Pscetnber S. Wr. Robertson p$ Lou. offered the folio wiag resolution for consideration ; . . v; iiJveivThat tha i?reiideatf tbn Vhited 1 . . , ' Lj V these nation choose to permit their means' no employed iff beha,'f of either party, it is eir business to look to it, and not oors, Let too conduct of the persons prosecated be re 5Ardad iu iu most unfavorable light ; let it 1,6 eonsidered a the passage of troops tbroazh r country, and thert was nothing in "one rsj obligations forbidiog it. The passage JJtrsops through a neutral country, accord-, 71 1 bis impressions, was a question depend- the particular interest, qniet, or repose vuwuuy irarcrsou, auu uiigQi oq graut- iusea, at its aiseretion witnout ta affseting the obligations of the neutral ttJl-T0' PartieB n5S6 'Q the contro . -But;ara!y;ltfrraTlatQVt!lii' sru not iu-!u P"g of twP tba persons not being tit suffieient wabar, contrary, tVoii ntbr provinces. It is probable mat iiiey imve not rt-rnamea suant, bat wnst ver'tbdy iiiay have aid has not been mad known to this bouse, or to this nations As r: government is essootialiy pojitilar, I wis!: in formation to be given to the people. ! wip.'i for i.ilVrtnRtion, that onr judgments miy snne ti.n senliment our hearts so Wrrttly approve. I do not mean, Mr. Speaker, to commit myself turegrdYj ray future course it ,mast, to a certain ' extent, depend upon r birenmstances. This house will aet as circumstances may re quire, but for mj-telf I have no hesitation to say,, that, if it hall appear that the provinces of Spanish America, or any of them, are re ally independent, no earthly consideration. shall prevent one, in njy public character, from ac knowledging them a sovereign states, 1 Mr. Forsyth said, he was too well acquaint ed with the temper of the oeop'lo of the Uni tedStates oa this subject, to oppose any motion for enouirinar into it t suoh was not his obieet t Bat hetkno w frem experience, thai Some enquiriev eoiti.rir.fee of (he whole he other day, Mr. Ni said, he feit his confidence in the Executive not diminished ; iike him, heifclt confident llat the in?esure of (tie suppresiion bf these estabt I'sh:' uls, was founded, in their opinion, inn jost sense of propriety and in a desire to pro mote the ppblic wral : tod fie Kelitved tcati Tor the satisfaction of the pnblic, and for a jtisf Viniliealion of (he Fxtcntive these docomcnt. Jfcould be""eshibi1edr iTrannot .but" beiieteV" said he, that the public will see, that, in thie" measnre, Jbe conduct of (he government ha been marked by a doe respect to the rights of the , Spanish province, and a-vigilant and prompt aitcatdon to (he rights and interests of our country. It is the best interest of. the 8pa nish provinces, embarked in the noble cause of emancipating, tlienjselves, to give evidence to the world, that all their proceedings are the re' suit of jnst and sooml principles ; to repel and refute, by a high minded and magnanimous conduct, the malignant and calumnious reprei - sCntations, wbioh would place them in tuts . grade of savages and barbadians. A just reV card tothe opinions. of Ihe rivilized world j d ' ' due estimate of their own dignity and self reV spec'f,' will lead them Io disclaim all connection with these practical . eslablishments. Their; own interest would lead them to eo-operate ia ' the cxtihetiba of tbese hordes of bnecaneers, ec Mr. IIdtne$ (of Masaebnsetts) said he should never be oppesed to any call for information . on any subject, when wanted by the Hotua But it appeared to him that the call now frnjr J . -mi it i,V'V- L ' " ft - -
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