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-) '..,' : ' " 10 i It 5- u Urn m. .t. LRN, . hole- it pw. diow 5Utf,k prKtic aeutit It l. v . . DriDEA.lHX 3ftr.ll II. WHAT DO WE LIVE, FOR, BUT TO IMPROVE 0U.1S2LVES AND B USEFUL TO OSS ANOTHER t Terms S2 iw advance J ASUBOItOUGH,N. C. 8ATUHDAY, OCTOBBQ y t837. SOUTHERN CITIZEN, Every Saturday. Morning. Two Dollars per annum in advance; or Three Dollars, if not paid within three of the Departments, and to pay the in-1 prejudices of an illustrious person, jtnd J siaimeni -noi by distressing jyie siaws v mao uw acceptavit) ui mm, luie inwlthhoTdingit,' but by imroducing a late President of the United States,) that wholesome measure of retrenchment in provision had beeri stricken out of the the expenditure of Government . bill, in order to secure its passage and This, sir, is the ground that I .take; ,ave it from his veto. Ir. P. remark. namely, that it would be far better to I ed that no should not permit lumseif now Or 83 AFTER .Tmontdi. curtail our etncndlture than to stop the td dwell upon that painful recollection. 7 ""T'.Xr'r: r oavment of this instalment.- . but should content himself with merely montns irom we-oaw oi wo isi no. r is- i u i, .k Wi. Mnrfiinr hi. A tk. i; rccuvfcu. . . embraced in this bill go to relieve in and salutary a provision had been Anv subscriber may dnUnuo withm SScmmmoa thePeo- stricken out 'of thecal from consider, first 3 nionths of the publican.. J. J e' mop eitherwil, tions so individual-personal and UttleA osuDscnpuonioocisconunauuau Government place itself in funds by If (continued Mr. P.) that wise and -arrearage, bo paid unless at the dis- . of aw The ban wIulary ha,, been carri J .,fTi?!.y::- . havd&violenthandsonthVdcpositfs; irithe oriMnal deposite bill, we should AH leuers, yuiuuHBm.-auuiia,uc w uuun, ... , .. nn M U,w in the mfi. not now be here. Tho &nt wnnM IlllVJT Vf III 'jr UIMII ,1V IVHgVI - - diurn they were expected to pay them not now be fatigued with its present la- ""u' in. Of what uset hen. w 1 this bill be Dors, ana an the troubles we are now r - . 'v . . i.i .i . . nost paid. Advertisements, inserted on terms.-- , ' " TO THE POST.IIASTEItS. tn nnvirnvntt Tho moncv is locked I undercoini? .wotild, have been avoided. . t 1 -1 'l-t ontkll I TK 'f'm'll,rA "I7Alltl -limn Ii.iia Jn I up in ineoanKB, ana uie wnucsi vuuim-i nuw mvu viuy liast in favor of this measure would not 1 had to throw the certificates into the rrnmcnt; when, if let go, Jt would do : pect this fund,-on trie faith of "a" la wj PIMueMilr xoanclvc Mver.il s go so farls to say that tho mcre fiat of market to raise what sum he required tkoritrdY mrequetdtaetHrciiuKirtbt this body, "a bill such as this, U going to for the of the Government, Such a southehm citizem." Ruii Mtitfce. fill the country with gold and sUver. course, sir (observed Mr. P.) would ttmptBkf kmAoi We have not got the magicahVa wand, have been enough and ample te pry up tb. p,per eomtu .ffie addrtmd tot. by one touch of which wo can. make the (Government out of Uie slough of des jpe who Wuk it wC bi io the gold come forth from its hiding pla. pond in which now it . sunken; t It ,M,ordeMho..yy.awMb. 'W - r the perton ddreMed is regwded m a Sub. acT. i wilt iney corau wuuu prw - L- . - can mem i win money oe uuiaurcu jui iuwhh imvm wiu bubuwuvui i nuuu tlie Government when you pass this bill? have benefited all- parties. "It would No, sir ; we all know that this bill will have been twice blessed, giving double bring no money into the Treasury. relief both to the Slates .who- gave the It would be better, therefore, under certificate, and to the General Govern- snch circumstances, to let the law go on, mcnt, which received them, and let the States receive the. whole of Dy this proposition to suspend or post- tho deposite. The States, sir, are ill pone the payment of the instalment, Mr. ing to-take the instalment in the only P, said, noi one will be benefited. He mivlmm in u nih thm Rtt institutions would venture' to au?srest how both car arc able to pay it. 4 They ae not Kw& I tic ra,o b benefited, and the issue of eriber or not, look m tht nurfiM of the paper forth word1 'grmhuUmljf," If mitttncri vty b ad by mil at my ruk, U nt rrent Bask Notes of Virf lata, North or Soatb CarotiM. ,. Anj Poatmarter vko y mcloa f J in N. C or Cap Pear paper, shall recehrt threo eo. pi of tht Cititea oa year. TUB EDITOR. CONGRESS I ON A I DEBATE IN .THE SENATE. IT . m T 1. m. I - . 1 J W aljhis crisis, to clamor. lot. a nam jnon reasury . ius mm oe avowoa. - iei ey currency. ITicy will be satined tlie clause exscinded from the original with receivinsr the State currency, their depoaite bill be re-enacted; -lit the States Friday, September 15, 1837. own domestic currcncV . But the Pre- J isue their certificates, which will be as ident savs. W and bv passira Uiis bill cood as specie to the Government Let The bill to postpone indefinitely tins according to his recommendation, you the States receive this instalment, and mmrat of th- fnurth intament nf th will nor let them receive a ctirrency let the Treasury receive the certificates. lfcnoaifcr BflL m at rrnA third lime- which they are willing to receive. The and tell them. In this manner, instead ucpositeuui, was reaa a tmra time; , i . ..fMBl 5w .L.L.f mAA k r.i au ,cu- sod the question being upon its passage Unkl wouW te m that currency, times both parties would be eminently Mr. PRESTON, of . South Carohna, to them, for they would gladly receive benefited. Surely (nkl Mr, P.) those said he should not now undertake to it;, but it will be of no use whatever to gentlemen who hold our destinies in their make a formal opposition to this bill, as the Government, for the" Government hands, who carry all the measures they he understood its late to have been deci- will not receive it. Then, sir, if I may please to imagine, good or bad-rand ho ded on the second reading, and it might use a homely similitude, by such an en (Mr. P.) was sorry to say he could not ... - ... o, j.y .. . a ..wm.-m... . .. . -4 - - a . a . - . be considered as haviug already passed, actnicnt as this, you act the part ot tlio look back and call all their measures He thought, however, it ought to have I dog in the manger, you will not take the 1 good, nor could he look at this measure - '.1 ! , ? l L M - 1 - -A-i. . 1 1 I met wiui more oiicussiod man uaa la money of the Sutes yourselves, and you and deem it either wise, or good, or pol len placfupon it, and he would there- j will not let them have it, tliough Uiey itic surely, he would repeat, those gen fore beg the indulgence of, the Senate I wish to receive it Is' this a noble or e- tlcmcn oughtto he willing to adopt such while he . bncfy etprcsscd his opinion yen a political proceeding? Is this your measures as.woukl be tlie least distress- upon its merits. ; reforming ; the currcncyl Is this Aiding ing, the least painful, onerous, and dis- Tlie first inquiry he should make was, and relieving Uie embarrassments of the turbing, at a time of general distress; whether a case had been made out jus- People, to stamp a bad name upon their such as tho present, when we are call- tifytngthe withholding of this instalment currency, to , refuse td receive it your-1 ed together to relieve, not to aggravate, -i .l " j .u .x tj.-.T :'r::S-r -I- . I i Lji i vi uie acpowio vnux uie oiaics, aa e-1 selves, to pass laws nur.z a sugma upcm i itr uciirnc, aim mn xv iftjuic, w uuai, uuu condly, lie would inquire if, supposing it and then td forbid others to receive I not to take venzdance. l :i , J S tlie case had arrived, thia .was Uie prop. I itt.l-; '"-y "v- J I entreat those gentlemen, therefore, cr and inost advisable course to be adop-v jgain, sir: there is anothef view said Mr. P., to take these thing into ted to assist in replenishing Uie Trcasu- which 1 think ought to be taken of this consideration: I entreat them to .'give ry. .... ; suKictind. hadit received its due con- more time to the States, not to stop the j My opimoTrgaTdfrrIdcddcdly this could j payment otlhis instalment I entreat UiatthocajrusircerM has not arrived surely, never havo been pronoseu.. In J them to let Uie money go where it might (ut Congress to encroach upon Uie fund fifteen davs from now this instalment I almost be considered a vested fight it set aside for deposite with the States will bo duo tq tho. Slates, 1 They havo should go, Mr. P. concluded by saying ttd rl further ' am of opinion thate ven "if ajready made thcjjr ldipositioa oL Uie he was sorry to ha ve detained "tho Sen- -k had now -arrivcdr) ctihis is not thr money. It has been disposed of in vari- ate at this stage of Uie bilk he had not ' course by which we shall best' consult ous contract j. and been directed to vari- expected Uiat he could have weight e- the interests of the cMintry, in attcmp- ous ;rcat and useful purposes; and how, nough to change the course of tho gen- una iv urmj reuci 10 mo ircasurjv', suaacniy, at tins snort nouce, mo expec-1 iiemcn ui mo luajwuy, urw (usiewwo Let us briefly consider the history of ted" stun, the sum which the law had passage of this disastrous bill , All he thedepositcact. That net was passed pledged to them, is, by anoUier law, to had desired was, to give brief express contemporaneously with other acts of be withheld.' But, by. tlio terms of.tho ion to his views of it He had now done piuuiai cjpenmiuru. ie iiua aiucposito law, a specmc ume wus uxtu i ou, nu m uumg ho ui um surtlus winch ufl knew nothow tndiu nnnn nmi nfrnrAinrr to the States, in done hisdutv: .'r'!'" "';v ' '".TTX'L which tho States were to have notice ofl Mi CALHOUN said he, thought it good to the States. Mr. Clu rrEPIUEiV, or Kentucky, said he fully concurred in Uie views just expressed by tne gentleman Ijrom South Cntohna, (Mr. Preston.) In the State which he came from, he said, Uie gener al opinion was that retrenchment was wanting, and ought to be exercised in Uie several Departments of the Govern ment. 1 ho profusioa to wfuch they were becoming habituated, it was time should be checked, and he (Mr. C.) a greed with Uie honorable Scnateor from South Carolina, (Mr. Preston.) that now was Uie' time, if ever, to put in force such a 'necessary retrenchment. He (Mr. C.) could not well understand the reason why any other course should be resorted to; for it clearly appeared to him, that, by proper retrenchment in Uie expenditures of Government, enough, and more than enough, might he cur tailed from its superfluous disbursements to make up the amount which the pay ment of tins instalment would require. But he (Mr. C.) was at a loss to un derstand what object, the Government could have in view by the measure here1 proposed, - Sucn was it tenacity for a metallic currency, so great was its ab horrence of any other medium, that it refused to take, or acknowledge as avail able funds, the money of the country and of the People. It could, thexelorc, ge: no available funds by this bill. Th banks could not pay Us demands now in gold or'Yilver, nor were they likely to bo able to do so for some lime to come; Why, then, did Uie Government seek by this Dill to deprive the States of funds which were available to Uiem, but which were altogether unavailable to the Gov ernment? He could not comprehend Uie reasons and motives of such a mea sure. If this bill would benefit the Gov ernment by making Uie sum it withholds from the States available to the General Government, mere might be, indeed. some reason in it. But why, be asked, take from the States that w hich would benefit thorn, in order to hand it over to Uie General Government, to whom it will confessedly be of no benefit what ever? The State of Kentucky, and o thcr States also, had made provisions for the expenditure of this money; had already applied it to various great and usetui objects, relying on me solemn faith of a law pt Congress, passed all? r the fullest deliberation by that body. On such a law, not deeming that it would bo lightly broken or rescinded upon Uie first pretext Kentucky had built her ex pectation of this money, and had acted upon that expectation, and had disposed of it by anticipation. Therefore, not only, on Uie ground that this money would not be available to tho ueneral Government was this bill objectionaUei but also on the ground that its present withdrawal from the States would be highly injurious and inconvenient to them. OtTuiTgrWridThe bill in his view was pose of. ".To expend to get rid of our ' I irafWinguidsshtmtho- 8t I I fft!in ti.. vv : i, r..n rl.i..: j n..' ofllio day. We were in tho full tide of n uiauspiciocs prosperity, and Uie Dc partmcnts were stimulated and goaded on to find out how much Uiey could 1nd, while .tho tnajoriiy inOmgrcss cemed to boempkycd in findihg'out how much they could givv Tho De partments asked for twenty millions, nd Congress, eager to got rid of the urpluf, outstripped even , their extra va IFyit demands, and gave them thirty nillitins.' Then it was, sir, that this do- piwte bill was originated, f It went hand n hand'with bills of the most extrava- g?nf and prodigal expenditure. navtf sir; under these circumstances, hen wo give so prodigally to thv Do partments, a a time of high prices, it is fWouUheTDellcr for his colleague- (Mr. they have made improvements, entered imo conintcis, incurred expenses on tho expectation of receiving this money, pledged to them by thoTaw?and now, sir, the question is, "inhere f no, right on the part of the States, is Uiere no obliira- a! At f .( '' w O uon on mo pan 01 me ucncral Uovern- ment to fulfil the lawr Shall the law be set aside on the mere plea of. incon. venience? That sir,is the question, tho -freat questionl Whether a solemn law- shall be tulfilled-whfthera pledge shall be redeemed whether a promise. shall De-penormeu whether there exists any ' obligaUon to fulfil promises given, and uui tu uiwii'puini expectations gratuit ously raised! Shall we be told, sir, that there exists no such obligationf It is, in my view, the highest obligation which attaches to any Government Now, in answer to this, we are met by tho plea of convenience. We are told it wouLI be very inconvenient to fulfil this con tract with tho State j that money will oavo w oo oorrowea lor the purpose; and, therefore, since it would not bo quite convenient to fulfil the obliVatinii- the obligation ught to be broken, and iuu laun oi me law violated! Dutilirreis also anotbor nlea fnp this roeasurf. I understand rr ttemtn toay that there i not mimey rnoojsh In the Treasury t pay I his forth ia Htalmmt But, sir, laying atldetbe ntntttiou how tar Mch an argummt ought tn prevail tn induce the ttolatimi f a solemn eggrnlrnv let as ask, as to the fact, whether there are, luderd,' no funds for the purpose of meeting this etigagtmeulr On looking ever; Ihf if jMtrt f the Sertc tary nf the Treai ury,(said Mr. C.) I only find a proba bility spoken of He says, there saay probably he a deficit, and not that there k 'Hie arguramt therefore Is detrstednf its main strength, and that is, of the absuletefact necessary to sustain it But, sir, if ihere are no funds adapted to the wants of the Gen eral Government, Ikereare funds which the States would willingly recrivr. They have confidence in (he banks; Ihry would receive their paper. They are not engaged in warfare against ihrm; thry do not wish to destroy thenif and trr destroy the crcditof the" Country and of the People; while, on the other hand, there are nn funds for tlte use of the General Government, on ly because it will not recognise dar money, onr funds, our credit, and will only receive gold and silver; it is net willing to go hand lit band with tlio Peopkin aiding and assisting to sup port and sustain that credit which is the life and soul of the business, trade. and cotnmerre of the Nation. , . Again, sir, lt me exiKwe another tlio sum deoosited. Bv Uie law, there Preston) to make a motion at once for fore, they arc entitled to a notice beiorc r me repeat ot unexpended appropriations this fourth instalment can be wiUulrawn to the amount of nine millions of dol from thorn, ttr they have alrcudy ex-1 lars,' Uie amount of the instalment pCOUCd It; and Uiis Dili to wnunoiu u is tircro; wouiu men ue a suipius iv mm ejmivaleut in its action to taking back extent, which might go for the payment Uie money froin Uiem," without the no- of the fourth instalment If Mr." P. felt tieo which the lavprovidcd for. . unwillmg at this stage of the bul to make 'Mr. P. then proceeded to.ishow that such a motion, he (Mr. (I) would tigree there were other and better mcUiods of to the laying of tho bill on tlio table in raisinv tnottev for the Treasury, with- order to eive time. He confessed that out rcsortin2Tto this expedient, which,! tho idea had occurred4ovhich-hisJ WIlllo It WOUld do onerous aim opiw- tonuuyuw iuu ju&i muivu, umuumuui si ve to iho States, would be, at Uie same see any probability of such apfdposi limo virlunlly.-uscless and unproductive tion being attended with success. Ho to thejtlbvernliieiit One ihode which had done nis utmost to st6p the extrav h' should fumt out was that of an issuo agant course pursued at former sessions nf .Pi-tlficntosof denosite. which would in crnhtinsr the annronriations. His ef- Well worth our whilo tn Fnnnim a Kth. i hivnwliiitelv rrovido available funds for forts had been unsuccessful and now he r Uie time haiwt rriifo.iint,1n,(rr.,i:iim i imnmrmMit. without Uiis measure 1 Uiotiffht there was still less chance of eurtail fwin our xicnditure, rather than ' of withholding art expected and promis- getting backthat which it had not been to ithhoul this instalment from tho led initaliiicni.f Mr P. remarked thai posaibTo to prevent frqni being legislated tcs. 1 am oj opinion we plight suvei luch a provision had been originally in- away. He agreed with Mr. P. that it the nine millions of thu iiiSralrrilivTsertcd in tho denosite bill, but ho greatly was entirely useless to lock up this mo- curtailing the; extravagant expenditures regrtitcdUat, In oixlcr to overcome "thy ney. It would 'do no good to the Gov eminently objectionable. Was the taith pledged by an act of Uongress to pe so ugtitly brufeent-- v as an expectation, based upon such ground, to bo ith such inditference and facility disappointed f Was it worth no effort no exertion no trouble, to keep a pro miseT to stand by a law! to iulm an en easement! The States were invited to accept this deposite; it was no boon of uicir souciiing; ana now, auer ii nas been ollered alter it has been promis edafter it has been accepted -after it has been spent; after numberless schemes and plans or its employment, all bene ficial tothe States, have been devised and settled, and are waiting the pay ment of Uiis fourth instalment for their completion is it now the time to recede from our ensatremeritt Is it now the time to break a promise? Is it now tho time to violate a pledge, and say that vou havo hot cot Uie money? Might it not be replied, you have got uie money, but you will not let tho States have it I Such, in fact, would bo the effect of tho passage of this bill! Yes, sir, tho mon cy is there; the money is in the banks ; tho States are willing to receive it; but Congress interposes, and, by this bill, savs "no; you shall not receive it, - We aro told by tho supporters and ad v'ocates of this bill that it must bo pass ed, because it would bo highly impolitic to borrow money in order to deposite it with the State 'This, sir, is not the cor rect vlew of the cases, this is not a fair statomcnt of tho question: this, sir. is not the question at all. The question ii this: The States have been led to ex motistrouH idea which seems to possess the griitlfmen who have brought for ward ahd those who advocate this bill; mh fnunout itlra, indrrd, of whic?l It were wrll thtt they were dispossessed: and it is this, sir: iliev stem to imae?- ine that Uim ratinry bclutig to the Gov cnuni tit. IS-.t ho, sir. (said Mr. C.) far front it: it belongs U the States it - belongs to the People, front whom the Uoverninent has gathered and collect ed it; but which gathering arid collect ing did uot make it its own. There fore, hir, in addition to the many strong reasons why this money should not be withheld from us, the reason a bove all is, that it to our own money; The rrrsiclci.t of the United States iir his-MessajrerhiidlTaimf dure on economy to Congress, and to the Pio pleof thit country, and had told them that the distress and exigency of the times which have brought us here are tn be attributed to the extravagance of the People. Now, sir, it is very strage that it never occurred to the f resident that economy was of all things that In which the Government itself was most deficieiii; that economy was esrecially needed tu be put in practice by it; that the tide of prodigality and high expen diture of million up-ui millions, in which it had of late years indulged, it was now high time should be stopped. Strange, sir, is it, that tlie President, before he made this charge upon the People, did-not look to tho crying ne cessity for reform and economy in the Government itself. . ' " In a time of distress like this, whon the Government givrn to the People such logons of ehmoniy, what conduct do we behold in the G'vertiment? Any approach, air, to eeoiiomjf No, sir V, -, ' ay " ' -