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ted by the appear.
mcttcpolii, to llic employment of the i;ru d'.
i.iius, and troops of the line, instead of (lie in
tional guard, which, lie contended, was the only
force that could he constitutionally employed fot
lli suppression of riots ; and, hud their services
been resoitcd to, the aheddingof blood, he was
cunvlnccd. wild nave been averted.
Mr. J), CiUarUU tuld, th-t for thirty years he
had net tccn any assembly "f the people ills
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jicrscu uy woopn oi arincu w)iu:cn, unwi.wiuun
u few days. I'jiU resembled a captured city
troops stationed in various qturtenu and posts
fixed for their attendance. I
an cruispcration hud hecn'exc
anceof tha rtpul.r forte.
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- noiio tn we street -uiene mnse,' wnere we Tcsr
ded," he put hit head out of the wlndo;.v, and be
held a troop of dragoons galloping along the
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uccis, anu irsniiiiiii mcir inmu. ouun i-
ter a wounded man, was carried Into ono cf the
' otitrhborini' Cafe he was an unfortunate old
man. There was a man apprehended who was
accused of having excited the tumult but it was
toon found out that ha vas a spy, employed to
raise disturbance! J for he tm ptTceired, on his
; pprciicnston, to give a trlcndly squeeze to Ine
hand of one of t!ie fr-nt 1'urm. nA tome sec
onds after was allowed to escape quietly from
amidst the guards.
A voice from the left Yes, the agents of the
police excite the disorders. -
Af. Demartay gave a detail of what had bap
pened to him and to M. Cortcllcs, on leaving the
Chamber on the preceding day. Two persons
who met them, asked the news of the sitting, and
they stopped for Yfew minutes to relate the facts,
hen a platoon of cavalry dispersed the party,
tmder the authority of the order of the police,
which required that three persons should not be
H-en together in the streets.
Af. De .imbrugtat defended the conduct of the
military, who, in his opinion, exhibited great
.node ration. The groups they dispersed were
.homing lmg live the Kmperor.' The pational
Kuani, although indisputably brave, were not equal
to whyrt was expected from their services. This
ha;) f.r cn seen on two remarkable occasionsthe
Otii of June sfid the loila of August Without
't!ie employment of regular troops, the.Chamber
rniht be assured that it would be impossible to
vc-etablish or to preserve tranquility.
?ionAre we at Constantinople, then ?
M. Mtehin declared that the metropolis was
t'r.tted like a benicged town. He was willing to
justice to the Duke of Tarentum, and also to
t itc troops employed by (he police but he con
ceived that ccctisation should attach to those min-
en who called in the regular troops. It would
have been better to have availed themselves of
the assistance of the national guard, as it was bet
ter to arrest than to kill.
At. (aMimcr Ptrrier while rendering full jus
tice to the royal cuanl, comnlained that violence
was used in dispersing that portion of the people
v.ho merely jtood up for shelter from the rain,
under the arcade of La Rue de Rivoli.
The Krrfirr the .Vra insisted that the ex
r?::.cs which had lately been perpetrated were
the acts oi a single party, leagued in opposition
to authoiity which was bound to disperse them.
i. Uevj. Constant commenced a reply in so
i ".temperate a manner, that the Chamber refused
to hear him further. The discussion on the
amendment of the electoral projet was shortly
resumed, and further aciiourncd
On Thursday all was calm in the Chamber of
Deputies. I he proceedings commenced with
tie debate on the articles of the clcctorial pro
jet, which was maintained, with perfect rcgular
ttv. to the UMtal hour of adjournment, when the
tioteot itm interminable discussion was loudly
culled for by the right and centre of the Cham
ber. It was, however, rejected, and 8gain post
poned to the foilouing day.
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THE QUEEX
VAt.-act from the Debate on the Kind's Jfrssaje, in tbc
House of Commons, June 7.
I .ord Cast!eregh In v king to call the atten
tion ff the house to the consideration of b maj
esty's most gracious message, he was certain they
would feel as deeply as he did the extremely paio
ful and delicate 'duty involved upon him. The
present was one of the most distressing and mo
inentous public questions which had ever been
-agitated in : Parliament. I le assurecTthe house,
that if he had not been persuaded, in common
with his colleagues, that every, means which pru
dence and a conscientious' regard to the ilius
trious personages could have devtsed have been
exercised i unt8 he had conscientiously satisfied
himself that those difficulties which surrounded
the case wrre,such as would" reipjiTre to be thor
oughly removed, and unless he was convinced
thajtistice to boih parties, the forbearance
which-had hitherto been adopted, was not longer
"practicable, he should have risen to make the qd
iervations which he would feel necVssary to stte
rjk in?P?n &tjcaiijh. rnorc , burdened
reelings than pressed upon him on the present
occasion. And here he felt it his duty to protest
m limine against the assertion, which had lin
Muvir--4nruwii our. t lat ni ttAtrtv nk n AM
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an undertnken to act the nart uf hrf..rn.,M .
and he trusted that . when the house adverted to
H e words. of th
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perceive that-noxtmiiiunicatW'had ever been
mane in more gractouvierihsM laughter fiom
the, oppobUion)-h1; tertns .which stiewed, that
me wn nat tnwn taftrstir cainliUty upon the
, - 'c Urtuonj aiui m circumstance
equally imeiestihg to him and to them. hil
give" to hi.ti loc iuMce which the puri'u ul..r hliu
4tim in which hi was pl.iccd, the litrrcst of tin
(mihtrf. uivl the rnn'itilil'Jnn nf the Liiicdum. tr
, - - - it
quired them to give to their sovereign. All th
in farm ut ion tosessed utxm tlm siibiett Would be
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l.dd lc fore the c ommittee, find of course that in-
forniition, whether contui.icd in written docu
ments or not, would be solclv viewed at to its re
tpecubility and character. He now applied to
tne intended course oi proceeiiint um jciorc en
tering tqwn it, could nothelp cprcs i igids as
tonhhnictit, considering' the able legal .Advice
which her inujoty was known, to. hc, that it
ft a . . .
couiu uare neen impressed on her mind, thai the
slightest imputation could have been ci on that
illu-itrioui.pcrkonjge, oron the tnaaucM ubci
in tire rcalm. or that thcy 'ihould lo iefcrred 6
any secret tribunal, or to one, where the fullest
communication could not be sifted, and sifted
with that publicity which, vas tho dlslinguishinc;
characteristic of liritlsh jvisticetllcor. hear,)
lls was . a mished it -could have occurrbd to any
one, that ncr majesty would not have full power
in the event of any necessity for a trial existing
to examine witnesses minutel to search their
character, and weigh the value oi their tcstimn
ny or that she would be sent to rial without all
those safeguards of general liberty and individual
protection, which would aCyrd her, together with
that publicity necessary to the ends of justice,
a full opportunity of cross-examining evidence,
rebutting testimony, and impeaching the char
acter of the witnesses, with a degree of lik-rty
which ner majesty must ahare, not in prece
dence, but in common with every subject in the
country. Should the committee report that there
was no hinjr t0 impeach the conduct of the illus
trious nartv whom thev assist with their advice.
and that there was no occasion to proceed farther,
this happy decision would receive no additional
recommendation, either in the estimation of her
Majesty or in that of the public, from having
ocen come 'o in conjunction with the two learn
ed gentlemen, who held the important and hon
orable office of her Majesty's leeal advisers. On
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tne otner hand, it the report stated that there
was enough of grave matter laid before the com
mittee to advice some ulterior proceeding, thev
would be placed in the most embarrassing di
lemma between their private and their public du
ty. If they concurred in the opinion that there
was sufficient ground for ulterior proceedings,
how much more painful would such a decision
prove to the bouse, when sanctioned br twa hon
orable and learned gentlemen, who stood in such
a situation. If they thought it their duty to pro
test against the decision of the committee, under
what disadvantages would lae? not labor at beinz
among the number of those through .whom that
decision had been formed, .The transactions of
the last forty-eight hours furnished a pretty suf
ficient comment on what might hare been ex-
fwi.u iium m iicgmiauon, as ii was cauca, since
it was seen, that the Hluatiioua personage, who
was the subject of this discussion, wai so little
unuer tne counsel oi the honorable and learned
crentlcman (her leeal adviser) that bv his own
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confession, those documents connected with the
arrangements lately proposed, which had been
pul ihed, had been so published without his con
sent He (Mr. Brougham) had felt it due to him
self to declare, that he had not advised that pub
lication, and to admit tha it was garbled, imper
fect, and untrue. Under whatever lamentable,
and he might add criminal advice, that publica
tion had taken place, it was evident that the ob
ject of it was to appeal to the lower orders of the
people (Hear, hear, hear I) and the purposes
which it was intended to answer could be conceal
ed from no one who did not wilfully shut his eves.
If any feeling but regret could have place in ids
breast at this moment, he should rejoice that,
from the circumstance of the case, no doubt could
exist as to the course which Ministers had taken
on this melancholy occasion; that the illustrious
personage hcnclt dad been lully apprised of their
resolution ; and that the conduct of Ministers,
free from all disiruisc. had made her distinctly nn.
derstand the consequences to which the step that
she had resolved upon must inevitably and im
mediately lead (Hear, hear, hear. HP he-1 louse
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were awire, mat under ner marriage settlement,
in the lamentable event of the death of his Maj
esty, she would be entitled to an Income of
50,000. a year as widow of the Kiner He had
therefore thought it desirable that an annuity to
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tnat amount snouiu be wanted now. that the sub
iect might never asraia come before Parliament
ut3. ..v uccn yrmwacu to me iueen, ana
he had no hesitation in savintr. that when nrono.
sed, the only condition coupled with it was the
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stipulation tnai sne should remain abroad. Now,
with respect to the: proposition that the Queen
lti" a . a
snouia give up ner tine and ell the rights attach
e; 10 ner situation, lie did not know that such' i
proposition had be4.madecor .could be made
Noihing had been proposed to her but an arrange
nient by- which it war hoped that all debatesof i
hostile nature might be avoided.; It was under
stood that no nronosltinn tn thi Hii.n ,n
?rr g!UasQUWn,couI4?be valid;witht
intertcrence oi the Legislature, and without an act
of Parliament. Ministers had hin
such measures be adopted that should prevent
an tvi-uic vuuuitis, opm at nome ana abroad, be
tween the illustrious narties. ft Kv5a'i,
that if her Maieslv resided in Fntrliinri Kth tk
! i s --javia.a9 ' wva -.si
i&ing and herself would frequently tie exposed
lv I'unuui . cuiuarrassmfimr jtnd jit Jwas but
. , Mwnwis wus m mis country no lack
. . ...oiwauiuii lo tuin sucn circumstances to an
swer the most mischievous purposes (Hear
hear.)., Whatever had. thrnu'rh wnu V r-i
iftg. bctn propagakd on this stnjeCt, either abroad
. utose vvaus, nq misted thatit would b
wofA anxlotu to sof;cn doun the duties which
ucli a step as that meditated by the Queen was
likely to create In every delicate and feeling mind.
ICvery tli'mg, he assured the House, had been
done to" avoid coming before a tribunal, which
ought never tor have had cognizance of the casei
and there was no sacrifice which they were not
desirous to advise the Crown to make, in order
to avol I tl it crisis, consistently with lis character
and dignity. ; , t: , , s, .
Mr. Oroagham assured tbc House the noble
Lord opposite had not addressed them on the" ve
ry grave and momentour subject before this
House with moc pain than himself He would
have the house first to know that this illuttnous
Iady coveted not the 'countenance of those to
wiiuin mo ihk4 turu a apecvii nau so lorciuiy
alluled. Her aaicity, which yielded to none in
that House, and her extreme propriety of mind.
rendered It little likely she should have suffered
either to be defeated ly adopting fallacious ad
vice. - Her condition, liowever, was such as enti
tled her to their warmest sympathy. She had
been' Ion,; estranged from her family, and that
Intimate asociafftflw calculated
to cherish the piiridiplcrarid hahits fir .domestic
life. . He called upon the House to bear in mind
her peculiar situation. A female, a foreigner,
unprotected, and nearly friendless, who had sus.
tainedasix year"almot involuntary exiUfrom
England. Hearing these things in recollection,
he thought they would not very severely blame
her if she had . fallen into the error of listening
to the honest and well meant recommendations
of a friendly individual who had desired to serve
her, tho he (Mr. IJrougham) could nevcr.charac
tcrisc those recommendations as those of abso
lute wisdom (Laughter.) Was it on papers
and Ktters, pieces of evidence, called evidence,
brought fmm beyond the Alps bv a secret Com
mission, sent out by God knows whom, but now
well known for what purpose, vis to five the
Committee of the House of Commons the trouble
of examining evidence. He stated himself to be
utterly ignorant of the contents of the paper to
be laid before the Committee ; he had only seen
the outside of that green bajr, nothing more, and
all his objections against it was that the whole
of the evidence was in that bug, and that there
was not a living witness to be examined- lie
knew that some one would be called to prove that
this was the signature of such a one a gentleman,
perhaps, who had been sent out to make a resi
dence of ten montb3 at Milan a member of the
learned profession, who till that ill fated hour,
stood hih in the reputation of the world, and the
esteem of his friends. Th4 this individual should
thus have lowered himself, he confessed had both
surprised and pained him. He begged pardon for
the expression he was using, but they were can
vassing so freely the character of illustrious in
dividuals, thatminor considerations muM yield
ne musi again recur to tne unpleasant subject,
deprecating as he did the individual and the of-
ficei To gor as he did, and sit prying into the
most secret actions of domestic life in a foreign
t.uui j , ciftuiKiur iiuormaiion in ine nnny
wine-houses; joining in familiar confabulation
with the bargemen of the lake, porters, cast-off
servants of mistresses; those detestable charac
ters who, to the credit of courts of law, scarcely
ever showed their-faces within them, without
having them stamped with infamy to sit, he re
peated, writing down all the tittle-tattle of these
reprobate characters. Before this, he had thought
better of human nature, more of the merits of
professional honor (Hear !) In s-jvin? this, he
was sjymg what he felt, at the degradation of a
proiesstonai brother. Such low offices, he ac
knowledged, must, be performed ; but then let
them be done by hands that could not be sullied
by any species of baseness Let no roan dip a
finger in such filth, who was not born to degrade
the human species. II the committee should
only turn out their report, couched in the mildest
terms of affirmation, which it was in the power
of the noble lord's oily rhetoric to frame ; (laugh-
iv, . ,ww 11 oiny sam yes 10 tne cnarge,
thai man's character would be for ever blasted
V a. 1 ft as. ..m!m a . I " 1 i m m
11 was tu vdui 10 iiKen mis inuunai to a virand
Jury. If ministers thought her Majesty iruiltv
on the report of the commissioner, let them act
upon that assurance. ..(Cheers.) He strongly
deprecated the course of ministers on this occa
sion ; they wished, by the appointment of the
committee, to screen themselves behind names
better than their own ; to seek shelter from the
publie gaze; to cover themselves up from the
public eye.- But they had of thetrown responsi
bility come down to the house with this mes
sage, and they ought to face it as men, and as
ministers should do. Not only the interests of
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me royai iamiiy, nut tne peace, the well being
and the morals of the country were involved, in
heP?i,5s?,': lhc Proposcd I inquiry
was"6hce"ep'tered upon, wjio could presume to
say'where it would stop ; vvho, thougfi they were
on the dreadful brink, could venture to point out
the gulph which was yawning beneath them
( Hear, hear !) Those who counselled the crown
to the present measure, ought to weigh well
those circumstances, by which it was likely to be
attended." v Thosd Twlio recollected whar took
place jMi,a former occasion, would bear in mind
tlie nature of theinquiry then entered into; and
from that thcyin'fght judge to what that now
proposed would extend. They would have to
inquirc....not into the character of the Queen,....
not into the treatment hr had met TwilhXnH
into ihafters with which thcliouse was connected,
or of which it wished to be informeduAut they
would have brought up the whole private hi.tory
ol l!.etln jlluatpotia todividuals. Hedid notsav
that they must do this, but that it was probable
all these matters would be forced nnnn il.. .,u
occukj:i puMic Luiincin was nuupciakJ -tr
feeling on any other subject ws suspended. .
political gosyp and icandil of the day Wcati
stale natty spirit ceased, and even political rn.
cor no lunger existed the general topic of tJ
year Uing the privato life and history cf the firu
subjects in the country (Hear, hear I) uc
must Indeed be t sagacious man, who could, fro,,
the commencement, point out the end of
proposed inquiry; he must Indeed t man tf
miraculous sagacity who could do ao. He did
not believe that the nolle lord t.Castlercagh) Urtu
self would ? cnture securely upon such a predic
tion ; he was sure that no other man could ven.
lure to state how tho conflicting interests of the
pjrtiea woold end," oMrrwhat extent i v, ould U
car rlc J. He knew that'many persona would look
upon this question with the best feelings ; nury
well-meaning persons would, perhaps, advise it ;
but there were othen who would view It in
dillcrent light.M.prrsont who were so much like
febid animals, that there wa more danger to be
apprehended from their saliva than their tooth.
If this inquiry were entered upon, there weril
many wh'ortiapCsvould view It cbmpasiion.
atelv, hut' would blame the parties who had set C
on foot. There were tome who, in certain ca
ses, would feel themselves bound by professional
ties to regard nothing hut the Interests of their
clients., lie did not.allude to raembcri of par
liament, and therefore not to himself: Of Km hrin.
learned colleague, (Mr. Den man,) but toother
persons, into whose hands the alTair of his royil
client might be entrusted. What the conke-
qn nccs ol this might be, he wtmld not trust him
self to say; those who recollected what took
place eleven years ngo, would be able to form an":
idea of that to which he alluded. In such cases
(lc advocate had but one thing to look to, the in
tcrcsts of his client and any professional man
would be rained, disgraced ...in a word, he wtwkL
be fit for the tribunal of Milan, who neglected
those interests, or took any course detrimental
to them. He said he must be bold man who"
would pretend to point out the issue or probablo
duration of the proposed inquiry ; but he raus
"iur wren tail, wno wouia rasmy piunc
the country into a state of irritation and confu
sion. while there remained a uossibilltv of adtust.
ing matters in a private oud amkaMe manner-'
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Lnear, near, near : lor God's lake, then....for l
the sake of the country .-.for the take of thosa
who deluded themsclvet.of those whosc mem
ories betrayed them....lor the sake of the people
of England....for the sake of those who have wives
and daughter to protect, ' he" implored, tnira to
pause oeiore tney decided upon this question
Let them recollect what took nlaca'eleven ve in
ago, when no man could open one of the daily
papers, without turning with disgust from the
scenes it described. - The morality of the coun
try svas alstakc ; Let the house then pause, and -inquire
whether there was not yet some meam
of avoiding a proceeding nreimant with ttwk
evils to the country... Hear, hear. , Jle put this
10 ine iiousc, as mey valued their honor, as the
valued all that was dearest to them, as thev vU
ued the existence of England as a nation ....(Loud
cries 01 near, near, trom all parts of the house.)
There were two Instances which he wished to
point out, respecting the conduct ofj.lanoveriati
ministers towards her Majesty While in Italy.
The Baron Ompteda, who was on his way to.
Home, as Hanoverian minister was most gra
ciously received by her Majesty.-. He insinuated
himself into her house. . he partook largely of
her hospitality for several months. Notwith
standing this attention and kindness, this honor
aide baton was detected, not only in spying into
the conduct of her Majesty, not only in bribing
and corrupting her servants to give him infor
mation, but in having hired a blacksmith to make
a key to open her private desk, in order to inves
tigate herpapcrs - Fortunately, however, those
papers so taken, showed this gentleman was on
the wrong stent, as in fact they proved her it
noccncc instead of her guilt. A young gentle
man, a lieutenant in the navy, then about her
Majesty s person, feeling for the honor of his
royal mistress, challenged the honorable baron ;
the latter, however retreated to Milan, where he
took tip so secret a position, as to be" with diffi
culty found .out.- Driven from this "Jrltreat. he
made a backward movement, and MdV himself -in
the mountains....hcre again he was followed br
the gallant lieutenant, whose gencrnus ardor sur
mounted all obstacles ...but while an engagement
was daily expected, ;theBar6rr Umpreda was
kicked outxf the-Ttitliar
observed, fori; having acted as" a spy upon the
Queen... not for the crime' of having forced he
Majesty's private papers.... buttor Graving refused
to fight a duel when openly called upon....Hea:,
hear- Jler Majesty hid commanded him to caR
foMK4lPpea investigation. -The speed
ier the beginning of it was, the more complete1'
would she e-Krutified-the more ample.it vz
.tbe-mpre decldedwould be her satisfaction.
that it would be a short investigation, he, wh
knew the course of such proceedings, felt it tob
imjssibIev:Therefore, no time was to be lost :
for. if the investigation wenvoni they m)gfa
pccUoir toTio ordinary peviod of the sessTo'Vj
Hut installing for inquiry, her Majesty protest"
strenuously and decidedly against a secret one
Hear, hear, hear 1
v Mr. Caiminff said, that in i allte diseirshion's wliicb
takeflf place before: thm crisis, he had Kmked to tie siti.
atioft of theiqueenrts to mar of drearest aialwa
friend. To his sovereign tie owed the duty of P
.eottnaellor-to her Majesty he owed eyflrj' esteein s
respect. The wish nearest bls heart was, Uiat Ui '
troriiity coild have teen avoided hi next w'a
that- her Majesty might olEwne out -of dii wjr? A
honor to herself and saUsfactiOn to her fmwh. M
memhtr (Jlr. Tiefnev) had M that no eoropra'"
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