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L-LM VOL. IV. BALISIJUItY, N. C. TUKSIUY, MAY J, 1621; NO. rsis-ia Brriiiuj whitk; IJLktkir a A if lit t -W J. TW temt or tK Wrmi Carolinlaa win ltrtVr be m Wlowt t - 7rf Mt e yt, AJcflimr nl ill I InarrtJ ? fifty CU fr 'frt fur Ui &rrt loacruoa, toa istri'v-ove fur rvD mwqgeBt . . V a4 letters fcMrr-4 ta ll fclitof, inuat oe f-taiJ, they iU M ttteiwUJ to, CAUCUS .DKIIATK, la the foiled States Senate, on the proposed Asdir.tit to th constitution rtutirt to (be t lectio of President and V ica President tlhe I'tutrd States during which debate, the pot kcf tL Ui eaaru at Washington VMUni. CnUliy drawi Into the ditcoasioft. ' Mr Urai.ch asked the indulgence of the Senate lor the purpote of submit tier, lor their consideration, i lew thoughts is relation to the important abject matter under consideration. lie said it was due to thestate he had the honor in part to reprrsent, for bins to support the amendment! to the Con. Stitutioo, which pro note to establish an uniform tni.de lor the appointment of Electors of. President and )ct Preau dent, aa4 to himself to oppose the in definite postponement of the variua propositions now pending. With the acatimect,rf the Legislature of the state, he most heartily concurred. . la entering oa the subject, be said that Wtlwidd endeavor to conform to the decision of the Chair, and that he wouM act intentionally bung into dis CossioB, matter fureiga from the true Jwettints be furs the Senate for he rmly beKeved that the decision of the per anils officer was corrctf, and ought t be enforced. It would become necessary for him, kWwer, toatutnadvert oa the Cotuti tatlon, as it ia at present, and ta call t e sttcctioa 4 the Senate to the per Suuoirt practice which hd obtained; ad grown up uoder it, which threat eaed. tduaeault, to subvert the liber tlfi tf the peojie. It was the duty of ta atle ewrgeca tv probe the wound to tf ' " that he might be the better J 1 1 detltcjwd; irtfTT fete rest -'v. It tstiU net be denied, he said, that It r t fatntism tl the Cot.vcn.ioa w i h a framed the G-ntU atiun, to give ta tie pn pie the strctioa of their Chief !..-ve. flat what have we been t-1 J tv say MHSr esteemed frietul acd tnfv (Mr. Macoa,) who ta cer tvtft sur! MuWitylWky, that th rW lrtt h4. se the stats of Cea. T'k , sU Mr. C m rnst alarm lr ; ! rtiot aM tur fy it becomes eitrY, V.u sastaif sboulJ be !j l frreemt tt from Ulif olace a Latere. 1W Cuerat'.rutga provides, S ?m4m h.3 a tlectrd by itttv ' tbrie e Ui tors f bet ' . . w t 4 a t a &s t ea i.bj cut, ' . t. WJI ' F1 -t. e Fret- I iitnMM tWjr afej tJ peee ; f 4 cf,e?T J9 etfoeatiwthe j-- sbn- twlera.- tl let t-in?i. J frmeed.-tjs are Ij te f 'tJ1, simI t.W si4ew bcftaXct h u 0 tt C'sn jj"e. avrij? la j- f-'v-- at-fi tl tlhe Co-U I 't a " - - to f-t"'iCi"tf al. t t n iril U r j-e J t I .e ly om 14 - at. k If r, i.. .. w ' f f M ' - irt - tNI I 4 J ..4 t (? -',-t if m-r- - 4s ;.t l i t ' - ri w ! i V inn uiurpcu luimiriiyi'inu return 101 the 'people the rights of which they hsve been wrongfully shorn; From whence do the members of Coneress drrive the power U elect the President of the united Cutest I hasard noth. inp, said Mr IJ. in syin thai the power is iot to1e fouad ltl the Con! stitutioo. and that it it, consequently. an encroachment upon the sovereignty of the people I the more alarming, io atmuch as it is eiercWed in the cor nipt atmotphere of Lxeeutire patron- age and influence. Make me Prest. I I I Ml .1. provide you with a tjrod birth, suited to your wants or capacitv. ' And thus we shall barter away the righta and privileges of the people, st, the ex. nente of the bait inteivtta of th eoun. irr, and'the charter of our liberties. . i. n . , . .r The miich.efls-abundantly m-niftst. Let us not, then, turn a deaf ear to the aamonitions 01 di ty, and th voice ol an enlightened community, but rather let us have -the magnanimity to return to leave the thinjrs which belontr to mm m m, mm a WW the Constitution, even though in doing ao, we part with some of our influenee. The President and Congress were In- . j . .1 .1 -f . tended, by the wise'lramers of.our Conititunoy to act as checks, each upon the other t but, Dy me system present practised, they kte the benefit of this salutary provision.' For, as has been observed by rov honorsbl colleague, the'Conrrm nrc aW i. n . . (9 49 i, , ' Yes, sir, the voice of that . - orthodox and exterienced atatesmao has said so. and I have no reaaon to doubt the correctness of his assertion. It ought not to be eai, observed Mr,B-that we are-incapable of-act. ing on this important subject calmly and disoassionstelv. Our presentees- s!on is comparatively unlimited It is, in iruthr the long eession our table is MM ..a.-.a .:.k :Mnnv,.n. K.. . w ! VUI Ul u mill IU1UUI wl MuaHivn 1 ... ... . .i !.,.. . ,l day. and hut five days out of the weel tl this objecuoo, thtrerore, cannot tx. lustainrcLir'And wr h - - the United States, composed of gen- tie men advanced ja years,- pottessing a character ard justly, to for their diecretioo and intelligence, being Knr- ried awav by diii on and eicitemeot. , . t - . ' V . " . . , Wm ara all ennsinrert I Bat jm urr.uo c aarCTw.apProBcningrrl..uC..s....vv- Hon.- timer, wnatever cxcucineni . ' . ' .1 j i aet. ana i wi maae you a ii mister, argument has been urred br til the Kn a Secretary, or, st ill c'rentt.J wiUltlemeti wbo has iixan on the suin CtnwS cnaracicr, out wilt rainrr imu icr mis, irii us uwi m ucuucuich aci id elicit th best and most effectual rem- their rrpe roWirira, and that, st Mem edy. If we suffer the present pmpi- bers of Congreta, tbef have no toocem ... tPd that wotning win oc oone umu toe . C J M.L- ftr;U Ift tio CallrdLca W l n.r other Chief Magistrate, wneo we snau hav to deprcuu the recurrence of 111 th aathief at pre seat complained of, aadl which thrratens auth alarming eateeueaces ta the peace and security of aewiety eat r ....j .k.t i. L' J US iitU b4 not tatKipated the course wnk tne a,k-a. bad lakea. and to most tincerelv re ti iSu fjs.rt had been burfr- tw tkf'rfaierrt f " I ewe ww a I . 1. S a H A t.l.la,! O a r ann 1 tUitlV to tow way cakalaie4 to pew I tious momeot to pass hy, what may i.'' weeipectf Whyitif , U the nation ro,n "DPut f f"' " nV i ' I. r .....k., pleasure, the ofBrial garb wiih which wi3 a?ia WI bio state of apsthy, i; ... 9 wMeicttemcnt. As these lo- !".!"?- "t' "'J(r"T"r7"'.,B :V.". .. ,., ..Ithiuties. love to God. and pood will ..... . . .tkir. 1 .fl WPBC HTCUEIhll WUTIKI ' - - ' . . il a $j.A mi. Sm tuli...l. laWW W IUmiCal - 7' ""I t - r,T "p- .- ' -7 MwmtUotber. Thiabringsa Conges ZiiffZ -Vf dnklt Uiooal caucus lotbetest. Tbechoiceofs . . . . .. .tl P,..i.Vnl I. a niihti ra.tf... it ia a hni. 5.lifrr4tt-f , I a .m. it t. ttA ta that ttw 1 n '. 4l, .. ...-.uiu BnhaP!Hl b I . iA j 'n. I meaa alorohtbiied from befnsr Electert, and Me '.,.. ...j- 1 1 I k If'-a. ten I - v. Kw K'W T rl. 1 Mr Rinr.y iaj m jm at 1 tatitol Lltw:fej i t .." ' . " 0 W t tf ' ' tU- - WJi, If I f. " h h! gWwa up ail 1 rf Mf wnK was I ; ... .. I i! ! i f T v " w ' . .. . u m .i m rir i i -rV the tSer sxoe I , . , t ( . rare 1 ,a tf a T i 'nt. Upoe the President and heads of Depart , i t te cm L w to trments were to meet togetner in meir pn t,..,t t. t e J t Use in . ... SI S 1 pcrnip nna myteu ccq upon to notles them. Hut, belie lor tM tie subject it oneofesM lmportatwf,thf itiouchet th ?lul f coumry,tn4 mtf.ln its remote eonqitftfetr.Jtnger liber if liMll, I &o4 myl( couirlad to st tempt an ansertotte pkrtku&r urea merits ahLh lt.t t4. JTih.t coiiQnamrM.il tuklUAol dcfcnilve aar Mro.nq soiii enter na lunger into the I disunion of the tuUiectt tsn nut be no - j ceisary to rciy itiarfumntt ihi km - rra urged on thtfnr, ; . , , ttM hf lh Um.n from NewJer. Mf.Dlf kl..nrfthet-mt I T I that a ContrrettionIUuratorihe nmi ntiun of a PretlJent.it not liable to an of weobieetions wWch ny be urtH ag.ma ,he Section bf s pre tide nf bjr Conttv - a.wn.w ivrpi... tSVl''ttu vaie tafui(itt. Tin appears to me, said Mf, If0 -fif Si.lous.thai he . t Utt 0 tvnctU, how n would be teaWA t ft. Rlr.tf so or 60 I - ' private lndtiHul$ thoul J meet In thlt el. ty and nominate a President, what effect oul) be produced be it f Would it be aievent looked to im anxiety from every rt of,he counry f WeoM it Uide the lPrtIt. or ehalleajte the praise of the centure f e.r. freeman In it Und, No, sir, ,,1, .0M (hi Kefte. , ho lb tuth , mrel ,r, er CMrr-ii I. tk .uthuiii which ihr y are cloihed.jhat ftitetjn fluence snd effect To'iheTf proceedings Bui for this, no turn a meeiir would be held.. They meet In their tharccter, tW m,mh r rn.... iK.. .ru.M nm I . . is .L . .a j meet at all. It h true, Ibey do not meet to perform a irrittnrtve duty, and the very objection lo the proceeding It, thit they atep beyond the line ol their peculiar and annrnnriMl Hull., anrt lit IiiRiiritra L,urhfdlo jheirolliret for the promotion lef mmi,jttt ot wiiVm their Congressional I powers, and with which the tpiri) of the conttliuiuxi foibid themlolnterfare. ' To how, conclusively that It it the influence "isrnea to me onice oi a memoer oi . on Rrets which it the foundation of a Coo 1 - , . aff Itrreiiional caucus, and thai il iteipretil ,Ki, ,i . ,in, xir. II. adverted to the fact that I orrannrnecnjr WtrtrrU i- i av v w sta arciiLisTiiicse auoiiu suvn ta v v und. If gentlemen acted, only in their pi(vatev caparuie, every American citl am certainly every Inhabitant of this District, would be at liberty to unite wiut - . V ...J.- .....L i tk II. II nri.:. 1 1 jilun it .nnroniiated to their use t Sneak I . rr r . .. . . r er'e chair ta occupied by their chairman the flic -r. rvf th. Hiiiti am .t.llnn.rl mt lbe doo lo prtteD th. ofany DUt .Members of Lonnress, who are called . r. ... i . . . . i ,,,. -lluirif rnnnt. . nri..t. rl.l kRiuaeit c-a Members of Congress out off hii character, and, as a private citiaen, Inter fare wiia matters which the conatitutioq hat wisely prohibited him from meddling ub 1 besrd, bir, said Mr. Uayne, lof a priest, who, walking to cburcb in his robes of ofhee, received sn insult; he ihrew off bis gown, exclaiming, "Lie ,., ., , j,.l lKl. . ""l' 1 ' "ng na""lS' IO n" y"" wiacr.y, in' Ckted the chastisement, he resumed the rt .J M SfV I a VI w S;iiKVtMMiy nsj UIWSVUVW . k .k.tf.- j r love to vdf and E00 lowtrdt man. If there be, said "Mfr lafAtai KaS aMuflaSai a'lAMlh.tM Atrrvtl? ii (..11.. ifsajl saaajs amsatsa- iivstul-vt m nets provided for by the constUution the manner in which It Is to be done is pre seiibed I the Members of Congress are anttora can, In no postible event, have ns thing to do with it. . It cannot be poa- a . , . 4" S i" S ihcreiore, wr memoeraoi vnret ""I"'. . ". "MlMmwflMI"-M4. 1. i,-""SJ. -tMI pri'atBwrw.T -."M:Mj.-.MiMrw:. Wrtiver, aabodyraWby virtue of their uUct IL cannot oe.. saw tncy aci in incir . . . . . ... ' . m rtnmrv -ri rinr iiirm. in iiiimmi. hi - - - - i ' I . Mr. II., to give other Uliutrattotu ot this doubts which may stwl resl upon it. . hup. tate tapaciucs, were to nominate their ...... i i. ; : k succeswrH( aya w w fnwww I I . t c:a ,.u u. II n iiwutu 4 uiaii iiviucu wiui til' naminstlojj to (h Amerlr an neople. Tr country aould rim w Itla drnuncUiioni t the act, h rharret of uturptlont trr ne , arid comiptlon, would ri In eery cor ner of the Und, snd thev would meet th utt ..It0tanc .of tat injuttd . people And yet, have not the IVttidtnt an heiHiof Drpirfmrntf at murh a rlht to tiet, at any other members of the rote rn mcnt I they tie no more prohibited from nominitlrn a Prtttdent thin are the mem be rs of Con k rets and mors dnjer It to be apprehended from the Influence of the Utter than the former. Suppose the Judrctofihe Supreme Court were lostt from the bench, put off their robes, and after publie notlee, were to proceed, In their pitvate capacities, to nominate Pretldent, and puUiih that nomiottlun to the world 1 Would tacit i proceeding be raluhed f And yet. the Eifcutlie snd Judi riarv hire certainly sn eaual right whh the Legtiture to proceed to such s nom nation, la their private capacities. Aeain Muppoif the Governors of the severa States were to contnti snd vote oa the ob iect, snd announce the result to the world. in order to produce union smong the peo pie. what would wi thiok or sojeb proceeding f To UluMrstt the truth that legislators csnnot, contittently, with the spirit cr the contiliution, act in their private capaf hiet on matien which may come helora them oflicMW,h may be eeked whether It would be iqttifiible for a majority of thlt Senate as a party, to raeel torether btbltuslly, in their private eaptciUet, and deternuAa, by rna orUyvwhat roeatuteathey should, at bodyr.support or oppose I Bj r auej sn arrantemeni, all the futrdi by which a 1 pore and enlightened lcKitlatlon is secur d,, would be dettroyed. snd a small min ority might sway the Senate. A Con itrestional Caucus Is open to the same ob- The next amment u rred, it thst t Con grirstionsl -Caucus is free- front objection, because It does not protest to tleel but only to ncmJnai a Pretldent Nov, woald ask whether the detirt of this nominstion It not to procure the election of some Individual who would pot be dec ted without ill If such be not the object and if tucb were not the results hoped for oo nomination would be made f no caucus ould be held.. But, if a nomination ia to nave tne amsct wf prvmwfntr imo to the Presidency who would rot otherwise be promoted, it virtually amounts to an elec tion rand is It sny answer to this arru ment to ssy, thst It Is produced altogether bv the authority and influence of Mem bers of Congress f: Or Is not, thst the most objectionable means by which an election can be effected I Butr sir, said MrJl , let. us bring Jhla quettion to tte te,t'cfkrf-tt7le, and tee If the practice l.m controvertinff will not dlrectlydeprive . r r : --------. the several candidates lor the i'reslden cy 1 If a Congressional Caucus be right in trtnaUe, as the rsntlemeh allege, it fol lows that the friends of all the candidates outfit t$ attend, and the strength of each being ascertained, the mirongttt ehould be tutfiorted by HI, and the othert thottld he evMamoitThut, the people will be de prived of thr rfrhrof chooslnKind mnsf, of necessity, take the man recommended t9 them. Take the case of two candidates only, .and such a case bat occured. A caucus decides between them, the other is bound to withdraw t he can, on princi pie, no longer be a candidate t bit friends cannot support nim ana, inougo nine tentht of the . people ehould prefer him) i k. f be cannot, as a man of principle, even consent to serve, j Take another case Suppose there shook) be fire candidates the five moat prominent and popular men in the country. Apply the caucus pnn ciple, snd It results in presenting but one and1daie take him, or look out at the eleventh hour of Ihewnmanrwbich,-tindetstjcb-ir' cumitancet, would be impossible The firinciile of a Congressional caucus, there the destruction of the right of the people to elect the President, and if it does not. 10 tiractice, produce that result,' it ia only because se many of to s are such political heretics as to refute to recognize it 1 and because the several candidates and their friends will not ' consent to sbide by it But, let the principles of the "tentleman prevail, and the President wilt, hereafter, be virtually elected bv a caucui in Wash tneon, and not by the people.-Nowf said wnicn appnea 10 tne electron oi a rrcv deht by the National Lepislamrerhich i . -t - - . naTTW" ibwb in n w ' min itttitt - .itifm iMti.iiii.riM : .-rr " "" to a virtual election D a . U)ngressional Caucus Does the former disturb legts ation, tinging every legislative act with party views and feelings, ao, in a greater degree, doea the latter: ; The letter arid, spirit of the constitution are opposed to ev ery species of interference by the members ' 4 ;' s '-4', i' . . p jjfc '.-.j' '-'' -i,'"- '. f Conjrtts, i.i tt.etlfrtl-intfa I'tr'. " U etttfii ini 1 ft f " r (hepff-lle t ifirtt. "I I. til, ti ! 1 i -I then, trt (,'t.n;;rtsi rrr..!:tc 1 1 j i '' -l snd'ths tnula h lkU ti.'v aie i tO pfoe tr! ! Pt" ti't ljf I '..' J. , I ' 1 IJmj.a IUp'. ituf w.Ijr sr in t. . 3 shy concern t'i irii(.tK'i:, ar.J lis jf rnnr vrHai tr "S'ri. t t r t.U' r muted io elrct.ry e ''.,' iffrf! ; tolhttroon vlw, i't liitgt, or t; i: .i but thev ara tomprllt l to cV.'i. if . Mrrf'rthdldatet previously tc!v"c 11 presented ta xhtn ty the j.t !e. T .t a Congressional Csucut il ci.rno " 1 tf Jritari,n well at mti .' 1 f ti e I'- - ' of rrrrtStnuilTci, tl.s 1 wi.er ' ' are wisely etludcd, by the rot.. from Voting Oil Si.i ' a subject, t etn-r tenure of their (4T, e ten !crt tt.cn ; t liarly li-Me to li'lJuein-e. ll ryl "1 to nominate lbs Tit sideutULis t; -, - pie btve proceedad to the election tf ey c boots not from the cimfid-tcs pftt r:t I to Ihem by the people, but srtord'. : t thair on pleasures, and are InDutntcJ t y personal preferences . and lastly, t! ty make such a nomination, not to the est; a- ordinary caseiwhith rosy not occur onto lo a century; provided fur lo the conititu tlon, but at every election or. j In every fuur ywa. Now, wbsft to ell ltit we saa that, from the very . nature i ttn'c Caurui never UI be composed of mora thaw e flu-iinn tl the nun.bert fion gress, so that the vote of an bdividusl will be of such Contequence t to iutiify. the eat'raordlnary efforts to pbuln ft when U is recollected htt s Caucus nomination? . every four-yearst-wlll keep. the jnattct...: ttmtantly Itjort Qnufrtt, can any mtttf who reflects on the subject, fail to see that t the triumph and final ctabliihreent of th Caucut sjttem in Congress, mutt not oo -ly supersede sndcontroultbe coniiitu'.iari but Involves the Introduction, into the halls ' of Congrete,feitlteraent,party feeling,' manaxtmsnt, and finally of Intrigue and 4 tornfptkvo at the bare contempUuon of which the: heart of the patriot mutt tick en, and hU anticipations of future glory ; be converted into the most gloomy fore codings. ' - ' j ;.'"'.. gentlemen tell us thst a Csucus Is ne- cetsary to promote union. Should such J mesture ever promote union, It can o- ly be by controling lha will and tuning . the voice or the people.' But it seems to . me, said Mr; HirftC, that, so far from pro- moling harmony ar.J union, a Caucut Is calculated to sow toe seeds of distcntloni - -and to prevent tba pottibilky of -union. To all the difficulties of selecting smong men, ls'snperaddcd the hostility cres ted by the agitation of the Caucua ques tion. The degree of support to be yield-. ed, or of opposition to pe offered, lo such a nomination, will always be a faithful . source. of endless eontcsts and jpimoti-. tiea.; : , . ....' ; - ..... As a tarty avaturr. a Caucus may, la eme-Inseaneesrtend-eoprwmote--unionr- In 'sucb a case, two candidates, at letstr: ' would be prevented to the people, for their choice. But, where all the" candidate tara . of.theeame party, the only effect ofa Caucus must be lo elevate a favourite indi vidual, by putting all the other candidate! out of tbe way, and thus to take the choice . from the people, or. from the buteuit - a Caucus is te beTesorted to at every Frw - - sidential election and Congress is, by a preliminary vote, (in joint ballot,) 10 deter- mine wno is to do supportca at rrcviaeqif , it is manifest that the effect will be to brin the election practically Into Con grett, vo- ting by polla and not by States anJ thua the wise provisions of the constitution will be repealed without the least regard to the forms prescribed by that instrument. Gentlemen will surely not venture to tf firm, that union wiH be promoted by such -A Biographkiil - Washihgtou, written in laUn, '. gltth notet, for the use of American i versitiet, is-preparing-for the .press. La....... Ohio. The author ia Francis Class, A M. of Dayton, in that State. - The work has t ii examined and approved by t Professors of the Ohio7 university, 1- ted at Athens, and of the Cincinnati tu- ege. t ' . A meeting of t o citizens of Switzcr- and county, Indiana, on the 3 1 it Feb. nominated ficn. Jackson for Pcevident, and Mr. Clay for Vice Pretident. a -as a mm.-- Lien. Jackson, is spoaen oi in tne lot- , owing- nunnen ' Bold and intrepid Irt; thrfieldj 'To.il Hecisite ht cowfilt f;e forma hi mlklMJKh! and executet them with the tremendous energy of tAMttWf'!m.' - From the Veray (Indians) Jlegitter. T U ' Monday last wits fixed on by tne friends of Wm. H. Crawford, tormee,tat the court - bouse in.Vevay, to adopt mB '"nres to ad- ' vance Je interettt of Mr. ( .'; wford an5v . Mr. Gallaun. 1 he day car e j pissed: '. iot a iouI aiflroachcd the (JiJUe l!!L '
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