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. '.-.V Tvtentj-jiv Shitiingt pr Tear, HOUSE OF REPRE'SENTJTJFES. 'MomUyt December Mr Si MISSISSIPPI TEJt,B.tTO-V. "vy .-: Vol. V. NuW 249. ..' Never before hid he seen a resolution prefaced by. such a number it whereases oalyInding to placeJhe. character of this"' man up.n tlie rack. This-was intro ducing an old principle ; a principle, ufiTclf it was ' boast we had . discarded. ; A rack wr(jyght nits this house 5 niiu ai.of. old, fo rcfc the "Iwdyi But,'. what was (till worse'.' to rack the mind. - . -'-v--.'-' Gentlempn'tay the charge are either Trjie or false j if false, refer them to a committee, and that coromiu tee will on enquiry tell you so, and thus yu will get rid of them j and if true, they ought to be acted upon by thil house. But who could depend ru.on their truth f Fear sncniber had investigated them in such a Way as lu kuut an honest conviction."' H'Kiey shall ap pear 10 be true,: after a faithful enquiry, the course proposed by' his friend from South-Carolina ought to b taken, The culprit should be summoned before .the' bar of this house, and he should be impeached; 1 ( , (, Mr. Griswold concluded by repealing llmhewas aairut thertioluttpns. not because he was averse, to an investigation; but because he left av'er-e to ".censure arqrmart far offences uiiinvestigaudarul unproved.. . Wrr Ha. per here ssxplaineo. wnat rtau laiienir ra ' ' ' "''" Debut concluded. T" : Mr. Harper. 1 apprehend tiiat the honorable mem ber has totally mistaken the course of the business. - Ha waVcortoct when he rose j. but he still persists in error. The o : -pie who cimplam 0USnt t0 te s they will be heard f they will obtain justice,.. What Ham sSbject of the motion Doe .it Hot embrace rng at resolutions-, .'raducmg a high public,, officer,? Ths was tie object of it. f Thcle was u j otlier object. U there be another, what is it ? The ru-iaon ii no. in the (bra 04 in address to the President desiring from tins Ac semoval of an officer wh l violated his du ty I but ii olfer yo wring of prtanfbUuuy stigma , k .nH mru-liiHpa with directinr certain jM whitiiln hi' linrnrtirTiriTi-ti" ""'"- f p--fo p" nf mediate." "He had ''tad to-As Pre idem, f Does the President want tltete j or, Jfhe hXsaid,. it BadBat been h dusigi lawi? I.he-igiWiant oftheJr ? Bte''tot'Uiem be- low wm revived them from Urn '"',": : Art w then by this tide wind to hint to the Pre i deatdLatwe wish the governor ofhe Mi " tissipTcr aUxj saooved ? It would be more cotisisteitwiih the jdeai of iwnor eapressed by the gentleman ir m Virgi iJU, 10 cwiie forward lairty and avowedly with such art adak . Such a measure would certainly be novel ; bu sO is might ba right- N " ' ' Tswe.(iotM'plaiu mcl11" pursued for the iririiMncm ot n avuwed nd. Th ratao-wersj very, tfTiwr' '"They . tendeS soiuiy to the tuatiueooa ' by sJk btwe oi'a public olficeN . Tie gtti.lemaii from Ke itucky had caEed the go intm i" the MwsjM'iVpi T.r.iu.y, a.ier heaping reT yMeM upon his ciia'ncter, a vein of the great Iran. Toe jfitrtton'did i answer hi pttfM t bat if it aid. Jafti Vtae gentkmar., whether, evcu ifthee.a iiWrtiesw.-erl, the great trunk would not' still lemajnr TTie siroile was Iheiswre nugatory. ' .-;, ' Thit same que a ion had ben betbre ,tht! house a !i4.M tlie'.last seftion. . It had tsr.n then oif Ycd. on tka veitr- lt dav. It had oaneci coms ances, then existing, . attend it'stdl. He had not (aid. n-Hjjay,- tliattbue ieio'.ut'w wee intended :o tiaduce the :iittCujrof 'm individual,, buV.that such were ,'thcit iiTeit. IIj kritf no.hing of the iueutimi of ilw mo er. . Mr. Dennis tlwUgltt the ue.tion then before tlie lioue an improper one.- For whether adopted of re jected, it wt ulrf itudequa ely ii !' Uw utitniua uM nieutlwrs. On the one nanJ, 11 was Con.fe.10ea, itjal if a Treed to, it would contain a sanction of the tru th ot clarei vvo-v taU. ' Mi. Uemu;, wtia wai 7320. pre pneo either to approve or condemn the conouct ol ; VVtiUhrop Saxfctu, hoped the" House would pursue a nUlw. coorse : audi; tr e nlUrli.ty to their wuhes, the resoiu r rn ihert ollSsiLs.'houlJ be di.nused, he would himself pnwse a general rc.olu.iou, tor tli appoimmeni of a commtittfe to enquire iuio the ot ' fie'al conduct of Wintbrop Sargent,' and report to the " Ivjuse tHe-refflit of tHeir enquiries. T Siich a resolution would t'uti'.ey tjetfhei: ai;fM Wln nor censuie aad tt would nfi-.fret 3'roiu tha Iwtfatftoj o' preambles wli.'Ch beenTStTaW. Tiic tfrciacrt! -the prestnt re-iuiutiv-ns. iuae werej.i.uiy. ' IT.pio, cr ; f ir h .ever -eu ibignr concur jii fc nrlr-iime, f ' - - cma.a-geiw.ai oeaucu-n,- - " --- IhecoiUeiitiol the retu'in had gone IonYto te:.. pi.t-iH-Je- .e.. oirs a.t-j..c.l,.w.' awy panttular a.,., WBtM."rerhad Tamed with them-thawetehnl.at j Mr. Ctik !uagJit-lhcuriwc tetotw.. .ll WdoWU their lK.i.i6 uKteitja -membt . impur.' lie de ked to kuow m what part of he thit hmu ThtT wW4ie.lwutjjid inWfflty f -itBtjouM-ai to;bswuMtt ,or asm, who at "the are of tiny sit year sustained a 14-of a public o.hcer, o to un.e a tensure cJsMKter, rwt only uniutpeached, iHif e-nUllishu ! M ryVwzrtwV muvei ot toe sMfc aJ vi.tues; Though th.s harie'er ma be resolutions ? He had not said iha? M oojeci was to m iwmmiWnu incidents, siuce hi. kpy.m - . vwcji.r . O-i 4hi rontrary. htJ'tWl object, riea.ed to asTlotli government '.of the Mississippi Te.,itry, H loob.ain twfh this-hotue art exesston ot the fctA JnM was'-onarelv w.io.ait, ail the 1 censure against amgn yiwm; . .T.vr w made were opposed by the preeeu ti tea. I FeW-' c censure w wsvii ckaqges now made were opposed I " f ImiB.. " . . . CpoAtbe whole, ifa proier. plan be pursued, in-, 9te) ot' ijUMnioning .thfesejgwoltjoos by a reierenct; .of theajs, ' committee Unify ';. be"pp int:d, who may eiv,,, fluke cstea-i'ively intottie subject ( after repo.iinj .6 Si . al ibss ioformat'o:! tbey can collect, the gentlcraa.t. trsai Kentucky can add hi?;' and a ,u t dccMon be 'thetm&f. This conduct will hi more aproj). Uie fcjB 5SBf liplied address -ttrthsi PresiJettfe'- K if thf ;.ckMaretru, we shall be lost to political integrity, add ssfcouM .betray our trusts, V wuuttf not immt di a elf take higher, gmund ; it we did not. proceed oj kmim m, and impeach Jt flag;ii)t.vi.).;cr of his du- it." AskI I pledge myself, ;that in sac 1 event, il no at erasensbet shall, to move his irhifcacluae.it. lit, Caibatne. I cannot subicithe to the cliaracter " jpstt'tto Winthrop Sargent by the ciitUuiit from ' SoMtVCarolina j aid when fhat gentleman cii liim T-r'-rHr. lean only tell' him that such an opiabn is , Moated fcy the uuited-vwee ol the . western wt.rld. Baton tics subjcctTrhust forbear, tor wiUi the wuoie "jaat of western America I. have feelings ilia, wuld ittnry me into an expression of sentimems which a SMoHWafthis house should not indulge; 7 Tie gesdeman irora SouthCjroliua wts not truly i"a&nsedai this subject.' The .'memiirist, on which moans of Ae charges were made in the r:solu ions ui- : -imA tf th gentlemai from Kentucky, was addres . cd t Cossgress, 'aid not to the President ol t.ie Uni.c J " "SaimC IfwasTair" W "supposelha: vhe-Piedenl waf wBtagoiitei with its unte its, l or lwd he known tWns, It were to bv-lbt'ped, that, for the sake of vm . dEcatnsf the rights of an opptessd i.eple he would Im sussoved iheir tytanu ' -y :Tkg.eut!eme-i irorft S 'uthp-Canulina and Massac 'hi v ftWdbdi.e therftelvr ivli .e tu the i" ,rlnc ol t it. .jta&isii, let by it they should gie a !:itiic .io;t to ' ? tfse cktci pi-cferred. v But d h house saiKiiou tue ftta set sjjrth in a. petition hy,itleriiug it .- Do they nut, am the contrary, relw for- ihee.y pur, e ot wessrtaaaing them t Was nut tins the ca e every day ? . Waiscf a rtso!u:ion cr peci ion, .on thi ground, r lthsW opposed J It U had been, itjya ho: si -.ca Aewasa menuberftlH' house. .. - . , IfiW refoliitions be referred, what Will bs tfie'cf--, foot ? Il'tfie Cliargt't exhibited are found to be untru-j, . the iwigatioii will terminate w the triumph of iim,, cexnce; itsjn the otlier hand .hey a.e proved to be true; e WBssld-procetd further, as lar as the gentleman ' bsb South-Carolina, and apply a constitutional cjr RCtha. By a constitutional corrective, he meant an .iifartaMnt4he.wothi'i t only have Jhis roan. . puoidicd as'a tyraiit,''buT Tie wouTaTJoTSliHth hh'-pr- Ididimem tva terror to others, i '. i' Mr. CtiiweldV The remarki ina'.by.thegenfli-j..lnMfiv..ih-.M'indiposiiLn ..members of this, l-'houie to investiga'e the subject. . Thi ijs. not tho fac. . , We caj -that the investigation' is in a train of being made. The petition of Cato West,, and the memorial .'of the house of representatives of the Mississippi Ter ritory, have been refcwedr-Vfidcr these circumstan- ces .the subject generally Is bctbie the committee. :'To gm farther at present, would, we say, be Wrong- For ifiredv refer also the facts stated in the resolutions, wetafceittbr gramed that; thcyl are true," and refer to the eomttiUtbe the expediency of adowing an inlerehce t Uswra, I lb tacts ctiaigetl mignmcAMtt tt'.r thing Mr; Grrswold Wwv He, knew not whether they were true of not, He ftnew nothing of Winthrop Sargent 1 hewat.no acquainance of his. But, Mr. CbswoM said, he was swayed by "higher motives than those svhich were personal! He knew' that the bouse hod no right to pais censure upon any man, until his otmduot had ImHi fairly investigated and his criminali ty proved. Then,, and then only, had they a njht to prrMunca upon, the charf.trf any man. -V remitval. "Sitch- a s ej wtnilri be im;roixr. - it uiv-olvea in it tue eer- ci.'c ot'pjwers wlfich we do not possess. If theobji ct "o'tHe. -'rieci!in';'M prot'essed,-wa to eomm-nK-ate into na-trtn Wthe Preodcrt, induojoctjsuuw, ucjut . ta iied-by' the gep lemati, by hi1 withdrawing - the ta 'pe'ra then bclo'.e thi h.ttK, and d;ile itig -ti.em,,iii the capacity of jf private" citizen, to the Vresidcnt, who alone-war authorised .by the constitution to iviuu- a puliiiciitfkeiv eieep. by impt-achmeiu- "ilr. Davis.' The opp.wium to these resvlutiohThas assumed various shapes. One genilenian is starthd at thS.Jt.mg preface;, another is alarmed at the number ot tr.We.-n'r and others tays tha by referring ihem, ou will sanction the truth "l the chaiges".' This was 110. . "the case. They 'Mattel' upon the amo fiuwg with any pei'uiou pixemoil, which always contains some facts, to h:s-f the truth of whic? a reterence- is invariably ; made. T'-e reference amoun:s to noihing-saore . than, an acknowledgmi-nt by this house that it i their duty : t j hear the complaints of tie people, and when ht aid -to en mire into their troth. Will nj, the "commi:tee, wlien appointed, compare the charges roaue with the tacti fi at, are proved," and from such 4-comjrison make a report ; and will not tiiat report be open to e amiiiation, revisit antLainendmen;, by ajr member o; his house ? "' .:' '." '--?.: -t.v ; '. ' T'lt' sentlemaiii&im Attt!t'-Car61ii;. 'as Mraf usu'a! wit 1 hiiir, had made remarks on .this" subjjet, without ki 111 w here to b 2m : a id -h-d- a-ied f t,' Uars L-o iiiipiav-ed ol had i.ot.heen.fWciituflJy 4h-Piesieiu to hi hoiLe? Itwa. ceitai .ty true, thai imy tiau. lV:i so ' ii-te i.ci. tiut this was saying very utttetor P.vsi-eiM when u admitted iba tlr - Piesiucnt ad wen ilw laws,' tha: Vt iated the const Uuliuii, and v, it people, wiinout chicking the riTCCi, w-iio i.'a-J Uoulptd unconstitutional joWcr; and cxCi--.rin'd tenant oppression. . . i'!i i en .j UviiV Sjuth-Carolina- had catted the charges Contained 111 tho resolutions meie assertions. ;r. Davis -dertrf-d the tru h ot the ren.aik. T.ere Was not a cfiarge mai.e that was no; ,to..n. Ii he bad toid.ibe house that he had Ia;(l hold ot th threads Vl a, ivniai-aty, hejjnight have been cV.a.gfd with maiiiiiy "tntre aj;crttns. : ; .-K". ?-i-- : Mr, Pavis was nil acqiia'ntjd wtth the cl.ly -c'li-.'ractr'ot-V'i-.ith.rop ,Ea ge . Il.it-hu'a.ir .w.ajnted,' which was'uto.e mateiial,' wu.Mm late " iiiti present :Ha actec He did know that in hi? tecent actions he hai e.h'ibi:d thetvia ac.er of a tyraif. It wis very tprobable that beJoi e he was corrupted by u,wiwlc was a virtuotrt twin. But with hiin, as with ' many dfher men. no sooner liaJTie e t o-e"r ihan'he as-sumed the fct4iji'atCT of-tfa shad been appointed to protect. :vj, ,: . Mr. Davis cared but tmie lor tue present sate oj nis, motion j for let the lvou jp decide is it would on'this ' day, a proper decision would soon Be had. The reijrt of terror -in this country' will Joon reach its end; ; ' ' Mr. M acorn "- The tobject already referred does not embrace the contents. of this resolution. The memo-, rial from the House of Rcpte- cnlatives of the Mi.sis Mispi Territory' only reiates. to the election for Washi irigton county 1 and the condiic'of the' govertorin fei : iation 10 it : whereas the charge ;rrrwhich the jesolu' tion is founded are numerous and dissimilar. . . . - The subject had been last session, 'introduced, at a late day, and had from ihat clrCumstarflre ben laid side.. HVwaFtiieTixolSmcad, and stilt mrcoTrv1ncir d,Vthat; the chaises ar title. .. .They are specially -stated and supported by a reference to their, proofs. : Cait more be required Why nof then' refer" them I 'Will not a committee enquire into -their'truth ? And i should they be found untrue will not the committee vsay so ? A reference presented the only cause whereby justice could b done to those who-complain, to the country at- large and the indiviiJual criminated; It appeared.tO'Wr. Maeon that it became that hou.se to be tthg -mO;e attentive to jhese charges, as they 'me$mm aferriuay, ihrtpresentcd" In oujrTTederil 4uuUi.y -Tf r'- r '- '''- Y'J-"'-'''' $4tl(iiit'jayf:''impe CSLi tftere be a mOpptoprit iode of ieadio'g toi tbit eSt-'cf,' than by the appoimAlent of etmimittee, on whosa: reported statement ot'iiu;i(r the hous wduld be iuktifi4il ac.l'g 7 - ''J'J- "iV'i :fc,,-':;''fy t:: ' ThHt had brtn the uriibrm ntbdev' It hadbeen tV'a&; tised thHke case o. the (allure of the Wester expeukiua under jt, Claif;. ' A CQtnraittee had .been, appointed toenqwre into the Subject j though he granted that ' did not-iccollcct that the" Word w'preas (so much. ob jected to-ort this urea I ) hd Been then used. , . ; , i ii Nothing bad been more spommoti ;ihan JtTippiint' - comrnitiee, snd then give, them certain instrucaoiis "this resolution was nothing more. ' But wo are told trem sjl ejttarters "thatwe caniwt pass the re.o.uuoii withoot tanciiontng the charges - and siaiuin'g the cha ttexf Governor Sargent.,; It Was, not so. !i Cejiile- njeq'-re niisrakcn; . 'Ji Veerence-'mlves no-opiniim, otherjbintbat a subject may beWtcr investigated 'by a se'At co)iimittee than by this boifse. ' i y .- VS uoll-;:''v-r;";.;-i:'S'i '--''.! -' i,.:v-.:-'i' ..,Tfcsper 'answered that it wis". 1:?:::"(f'i ;y ; THp. It arpe'r.' " I "tlfea" move tu. strk'e"out the whole oflhi preamble; 'an'J'si much of theiesolutknv,rhat tJtuiu as to make it read (we aie iub.taii.iallytho' n-1 v 'bally correct) " that a Committee be appoint ed to enqnire uitothe orhcial conduct o Wi tiirup ae geiH,1 wtiicii shall be. aut.irised to tend for persons, ,ai.af, and reco-d5.v . - , . -seiLu chaigaragain3t the fihai astej 01 a publie offiser ; 1 -M. JHarofdvCared" his object wa t . b mg b o.t aad iti-4eetM: if wuU ex lies an opiaiotr ha. tho.o f Sf1iDecment ol Governor Sargent, it he appeated R in... 1 . Ktt rr.t.lttr Mr. Claibdme said he admired the .ibjeot avowed by tie gentleman Irum -WSMChu.i ; but he then rooio k the Speaker whether tlm' aniciiumeni was iu iider. ' ' - .-, ' ' The Speaker said it was in order. , Mt. tigie ton. I h li in nly hand the rule of the h jtue, wl.etel findi drclareq mat a moti-ai for com mitment shall preclude al. amendment. - . , . . ... . ' fl'hsf Speaker, alter iomc hesita ion, said it cer u.uly was so. . - ' ' - il:, K.itledge said-sprmlcnj,2rt alt seerard toagrej. a JLt ihe essuace ol tlw tas, iUi to oitSw'vu "tliij isutSe' lletbought the instance interred I j by the jgentleman Irotn 'N diCalm fully . in.pointv and .alioge.hei- as.! raibtt htm." In that case a eommilUc hal tecu ap pointed barely to enuuire into the -causes vf ihu-wa-:4 ern exj edition. 1 lie ro(u.ion bad not Uxu pri'M-Mi by utg -pieamble j bad- n.UA-ribed. mu.i.c..ul e)W-diceoi other pjprvlwusibie srijUvea to 0ne.l St. Clan. - The subject seemed to be entangled by trie rule of the hou9e.' He approved the mode recommended by hw Colleague i ana tor $ne purpote of auai..ing ihat ue Would tn .ve the pewmus question. , . Tfit' previous question was then put, vit. shall the, (bam quisnon be now put , - - ' . ' v ' ' i'!?ch passed In the necattve-Ayes 36 Koe 49. 'Jf liritaV; f then moved 10 strike out the preambre tit. Macon tfteved il posrpunernpitt ot ilm. qucatiorf Uil tomn.V Mot.un lost. 4 Mr. K.itchs.1 moved in adjournments , , Mr. Thatcher. If we adjourn nil to-morrow, when we uiiH.t theu, what .will be. the qiistionbelure the TiSuse? W&have decided that the mam quesiiin shall now be put.- Can that then be the cjuesiiou j ...Where willi." be? .Where shall we" find it? . " . , Mr. Har, er called to order ' on a m ition to adjourn theie could be tto utba e". . Motion fuf adj'Himmeiil tost' ' Mi. Davis moved the .commitment of the amend ment to a select committee.' " ' J' ' : :' The S;aker dtkfkared the m tion not in oider. ' : Mr. Dent asked if it w as not in order to ci'mmit the motions of both the gentlemen from Kentucky and S uth Car.-lins to a committee. - . .t, The Speaker s'iid a' vote Un ttiejnain question had just been put. .: -"'.-"' "'':--'::! Mr. Eggleston said the vote had been the pre gfious question',' and pot on the maid one. , , 1 The Speaker acknowledged that it Wa,sso; butde- - dared the .proposition f Mr. Detit out ot order. : ' -Ths oaiesuitt wa ia'e-; on sins.i.itf u; ;h gam bit, -oud (.arrid, iff (ouuU'r ii bij, u t'-j a m ii- Hive. ' : - - ' Ivri. Ila per then med toamcrd thcc'iclj t g rejolotimi moved bv' Mi". Davi., By stinting It out, and Introducing in its room the. motion already t-.u as -made by Mr. ha per. '- Mr." Ra idolpli de ired kttrw whether it wis in -order to m-wan amtndme.it to the amun-jjieut 01 iie gentleman from bouth-Carelina. ' . ' ,. 1 he S,aker said it was ut order. , Mr. Raudo'ph then moved the refereacc.tu the com mittee ot the la vs, documents, and other papers ac comfanymg thtm. - The Speaker said trrttt jappcarsd U hun $ bt the ran ntot'the o.inial retvhitiJn.' r"-- ' 1 -. ,, a.- Sir. lUidJpft rej.l;cd titat on'g'nal resola'.ion was , for the transmission -ul them totlie rTestdent. : The Speaker acknowledged that it was so, ana :.sia'ed the' nation 1 Mr. Randoij-h:.!"":'-'' ' '-: Mr. Ciamplin thought thcmoiioaout ofdder. : Mr. Ila: per rose to tail the gentleman toorder. 1 Tuc".S.aKef had already decided the mot'iwi to be in order. -; ;--'. ' " "' v . " ' .. The Speaker ajain pronounced the motion to be in order, .r- lr . .jy. ; A desult ry Mai eniuei bct-'-.een"7'rlandoIphj Mr. Griswold, Mr. Harj)er,-and MtTM.t. Mr. Harper's motion urwjr consideration , : .1 , j Mr. Randolph Would say; however haiardout the remark; that the house had riever been mere idly era ployed than on thisocca ion. All the gentlemen, who have sDoktn 'on' the oiizinal re-olution ol'the genUeman . from Kentucky,- say they ar agreed as to the thing, pot they dispute wun xenaenjr mvB w nuhit oat fa accomnlishiri' H. Whichever way we thus they ttnve to eatnc every mouun, wugujai , 4 bit add full investigation', " : r v ':! v -; ; Mr. Randolph thdught the direct point snouw oe ai the motion of the" gentleman fcom South Carolina wa ajreed in , ;. ' .'.-JfA i : 'x '.Si,;-:.. l Mr Davfr a;Tpe!e'er to Tejitrcmen.": whether" thiv.: were serious in wishing fa le -A lof persons and Jpers ? .? Could they eipect ut get flieror diliing the sesd'iou from . ' a caiintry HOQ miles off? . rtTbttjSpeaker called to urde' Th main question ; was not bore tbe boirse', r Whatever wassaid jnust to on the amendment.' ?"L.:,: :if..::.v'-?.i . 'r Then,- said MrV Davis.t t will if noibidf aVhst'li' and sit down;yf":; -.'.. '.,,.. f-v ..-..'V-v'-if ': The.questioa on Tr, iRandolph'i .rootiori. -wa thert 7 ' put and loBt-r-Ayes. 2;. - .: :'' : ;,-r -5 r Mr Claiborne moved to trrilce out of ihemotiofl : niade by Mr", .Eai per;, the r words, itniffot ftr' toiisyu,re)ilt,;un4 fiijteri His motive w(tsd;caS fsued ty a ie if 40 obtain sp'eedy juste fbr this op ':3t, pressed people', , 'fhe, necessary proofs Vere betore th ' ' kuuS.;ii' the'ctit&iue were tied ttp'.Jjom making; : a. reixirt Mutii a nVessage had been sent te, and returned ... ;;1 IreiB tbeUjtissrpj t Teaitury, he. should despair of ' jusiice -ov-ertaiung thiivrrjan.. iThe committee jsaa'r cerfajnjy immediiitely eaquire'tnte The . "subject andj .", ; ftom'thti d tu'ments that would be laid before them- - lwjl Would -brat) US T?W-'-m-niiouTn'c delay orfiieat etcpee.;- To te.t Che sincerity of gc"n'r nciueiij.ne iuo.u 10 sumeow tnosr Wurrti. ' -, - . Mr, Jfa.per said thai ilW niotioii canied ajj implicaV ' tijl that his friend from Tennessee would not be wil ling to allow j eitliei" that a Criminal might esoipe tm 1 uiiished, Or an inib.ent man be punished. Suppose the committe8,thin)cthe;'cbarges insuntc,ier.t far the object o; rettioval or iinptaVhmcnr, !and yet are ofopU" niun thanhey are sufhcient to justdy- strong suspicion and pi esuropuon ut gu.lt ; would it not be desii jW to Irivvsc tbnrn wa.h b Aht &f makii i'uaher enquiry f Suppose, on the ottmi hgnd, that the charges appear tu them true, bad notl'.iu e-erience of ages justitied Uir propriety ot th"c 'maxim audi uliMtm partem f How can this dilemma beUiiTiouri(ed lut by imparting to the committee all . the powers required lor making a full and fair enquiry r Culess this be done you may convict the govcmuT without testimony, or dismiss lunr, though you think him cnminal. - . - Mr. SiSilie. ;It extortion, has been practised by Winthrop Sargent, it tincontts:utional laws havtf been passed, it is the duly oUXngrcs to inta pose itrawto--nty, iwd redtess thCot grtat evils'... Iu such cases de lays arc -OMgefciuC" He waj, tlieafire,r for (hosi measures Uiatprcvided the nust iinmediaie and efleC'" tuarre.m.sLL. - Mi. Claiborne. . The gentleman from South CaTO that - innocent majiJ would ittcoil at sufh taAimuli Butjbt testis ,'"" joiutedhythe gehtleman from.Sputh-Carolina, unin- Structed as to wnat cnarges uicy are w ihwibiv, may be as blind a the gentlemen themselvse who had spoken. ; He hopea, therefore, the house would, com pel them to take them into view. -r Mr. Rutledgeiwas in thil stage of the business op posed to (Jie amendment of the gentleman from Vir ginia, though he had po objection to ague 10 it, after -bnalias done jutk;e us my feelings in supposing tl I would n-.Coil 'at the idea of punifhmg' an 'innoci .wy,Mnoa.wbis4isndi sortM.4hJtyultie.tictt.....: ,.., such lear. Before the 'exhibition of .the-document! . I Uadnuspieions'; but ii w 1 have convictions. 1 Ti e unco'BSutiuiial la, "officially commiinicated, ar pi-ools whoe autWity 1 dare not $eisM They Ire bo lore ihe "house, i-Any member may read tfienu I do - ny, pursuing the tooise we wi h to pursue, that Winthrop "Sargent tan he . punitlied Un eart1, 7!The comouitee, 'attar soWnin inqu'ny, will report lo us a " etateniem $ facts ) on which an impeachntent hiay bo t;mnntbd l'Jniiscvhed. 3tit(Vgejtt wilj be bard'ln his defence,' and your - managers may; , be empowfered to schd Jpr persuu tedS'japefs,'1-Let gemlenien who HesI ate oc this subiecr; -lecollect that a detayof.jut'tice li ltea eualto a. denial of.k.,' "? Mr, Cla borne' s bst wor it were sparely uttc.ced, . when a person iri (healiery. clapjied, '. Serj.aiit, sjiid th",Sprakerf seetdthft man."'A,- Tite i?rjemt xeeht into tke gd cr-j uu4 took tl per ton teit'html rejntitiitt,''i.. ,';:'"'"-v: -l v ! :.t ' Wi itadctiiiiLiid he setts kept in ftnnetamt by the Ser jeantfot dt-otti lain bow in ecmcgiietceMcl. nJ 1 .T ihe mi tfittt hnrtc, wach he hctdfastened to a tlud mar : ' JA? CqpitoK' ami uiitkk tear not to bt JounJ when lie war " rhwct!,ke lluit vrty ihty olituiiuda is)rru (roaia Maeulrtite so but tht Herjetmt id arm for illfsal con-. Though these 'circitmJtanras are stated Upon, what" " i) deemed by the Editirofthe National Intelligencer,.; good authority-, yet he declines a responsibility tbrtheir . ' accuracy' ' ;,'' , V'"-',, ,..'; " , '' ''Mr.- fictik wished a full enquiry to be made, and"., . " of course thought the Committee ought to be-empower-1 -' v' t'i t ed to send idr j enoni and -papers, This measure, in , " "'V', his bifion. 's far from "fcyidencing an jncUsrjsitioij oI!LO meet the Subject v arthef stfiingest evidence of Je.' ' ,f ? since: 1 y and adhence to justice, of those wha tup- , ported ir. .' :':'::?':','''' ' ' - Mr. Noll considered (ne wel! nt xe. tould hear him) the point in disjuite is of little, if any," importance. f ;' ; Mr. Griswoltl hnjiedthe' words would not be struct ..: out.; far it thy were struck, out, tlie effect would.'- . then be'that the committ.a: shduld hotsed for personsw , ,: or papertr. He was astonished at -the ideal of Some gentlemen. v fWy .. -.. rj-X. ' Could they expect this, house" to be'gjverned bj.the opinion ol anv one member who tells them that in his' opinion certain lacjs exist that criminate a high public olhcer It the documents are thu.1 decisive, the com v , mittee need, go no larther. If not decisive, shall theyf subUitUte the opinion of the gentleman from Tennessee- , in the place of their own convictions r He hoped not. ' Ifgeutlemen are seri ut in the expression,of their wish-:, es fur a fair enauiryv 4et"ihern give the committee full ' powers.---' -".. ' ,";."-.' 'J-',r-: ,?.'.:'. - '" '? i.ir, il.OU ..v.iwii ... I. ul iwiiij, these words Pi consider the distance to--which they would have .to send, which was HOI) miles, and to. , calculate the, time yopied in going and returning froth. . . Mrsiippi Tefriiefyr arid flieo W Say whether a.T ." p.tnr.s K Impracticable during this session. He thought it would,1 and from this and other reason 'was for an immediate enquiry y-:,!&:-y, ' Mr. Bird. Is it the intention of gentlemen that the 4 committee, they wish appointed, shall be exclusively . guided by those documents, which they, as accusers,. . hold in their own hands Is this their idea of justice tt If it w ere, he differed widely irotn them. ... - .- . r Not a proposition had been made by gentlemen who desired such an enquiry aa jiistici prescribed, but had' beencloggedby tnesuggesttorroi imagrmiry o"n'" and tortured into the molt perverse "meaning,' ,"" It'wat stranre that eentleraen of such taienti ihould after. ; JIVMI1UV1WI, .7 .4 V . ' w. . j . ... . w rectly aimed at. The cammittee prnf Osedto lap4jyaidsringljj in diameter, come at last to the simple resolution. which appointed a common commitee-w'uh common powers, Het called them ommoo tor every com- mittce appointed on lucffa liibject have similar pow-; A' - -- -. .;:,-:- . .-"'-V ;'-'::'-; '1 It was presumption to, suppose, as the argument of gentlemen did suppose.' that the committee aboutv to bt appointid Will deiire to exculpjjf Winthroii Sai , . ; , . . t." :"'-. r-A'.-'J-dt . ; ,.:-' :-:,:r;:! . - . a , -"..':Ji ' - - r. w '"- .'"- '''V I. rri 3 31 .-...1-..V""Ji.'J ',' "':. '-', ''--'.'-. f:. .'.' "v -' . ' J' ':','''''':-':'r';y: s-i' ':' n. (
The Raleigh Minerva (Raleigh, N.C.)
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Jan. 20, 1801, edition 1
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