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'RJLElGt-?vuunt6 jsverY MpDAY b y HODGE BO YL AN.
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Twenty-five Shillings per Yeari
EmrdOj a letter from Wqfbinston, to the
Editor of the Gazette ofthe United Stateh
" Though you find, in the National ly
tf .hnftudr. a Print il iiatement of the mod
J important votes which ate taken "in jhe
( houfe of repnfentatives, and a very fmooth
I account of the courfe of proceedings. Wl
ii vrin no nn aili-niMtp idea of the miniiterial
fi mode of tranftcting bufinefs, You will
inJeed, occafijnaliy Jjnd jsry iinwarrania.
ble ftaternenta in that paper, whenever, in
the opinion of the edi.tor,-the chara&er of
his party require) from him that kind of
aid. In the Intelligencer uf Wed.iefday
the twenty fourth of March, it is-afTerted,
that the difcoffi?ar of the bill, for reliving
the luxuries of life fiom the burthen o! t X
e, confinutd with little inter miflLm for fix
i days, ii-daring' tuMefr JmfiJk.k.Ji Mi
I I 2 1 1 1. Jl ... A ..... . f .7.
I by the minority ft adjourn. Inthhunufual
it devotion to public bufinefs, the citient avill dif
v tern a laudable fdlititude to terminate the Jejji-
in mt the eat hejt period"
h is to be hoped that this indecent
r
i mifrcprefentat ion is chargeable only upon
.the Editor of the Intelligencer, and. .that
I be has not been put upon it by fume man
f more conf luence.
X . Notioithfimnding Kpealtd maJicHt mJe
?) iy the minority to adjourn.' '- The faft i,
, that on tour fucctffive days, out of the fix
' here rneiuioned, t'm miniiterial party ad ..
$ Journed in great confnfiort, fo thepuraof:
of deviling waya and means (o t xtnwaie
themlelves- from-; the embatrairnunts into
...Vti-h thptf WPr0 iKiriivii h i th.-Ir niuil tiii.
....... .........
j rrrdmcs.
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(plnafmuch as an examination f ih? fnh
jedi has been provoked, 1 will g vc y. n a
hiilory of thistill, which, in tiiu (.: n oii
of the Intelligencer, n fl d f i n.u :ti t
nour upon the inxJu Iry, Ikilt, and perfever
ance of the mintllerial party.
" The -eom mil t ee o f - way a rd m ? d s
which reported this bill, and of which Mr. tio, the word Jules at pnpionM and to
Randolph of Virginia ischairman, wai ap j inferf-ic, ' mc avC notice '.hat hew
pointed on rhe fecond day of the Txfii n. j ten Ifid to move further -i ..crul'iitins by
After a eood deal ftlelay which exhaulted fub-iuutiiij? frown fu j,n , bshea ha, twifalt,
i the oatience ofleveral of the party, I)vn i
rt.of Kentucky moved a rrfoluiran fur the j
f. repeal of the internal taxes, aud Hated as !
Ji Jiiareafon, the delay of the committee of
,"'wTi!'ffp" thlsHfui.jetVr-veii
Ifthe Aurora thought fome apiilnoy neceffi
jry, and informed us that the committee had ; t0 have this cam pari ion appear upon. their
kfcfolved to mature the bulinels befire they j-mrnols, and, as the belt expedient which
brought it forivarJ, anj to introduce it to occurred to them to avoid it,--called for a
j'the boufe in a perfect ftace, fo that it j divifi.ni t the qucltiori, fo that 'the votes
' SJ11'!;'11 oe ac"d upon with promptuclb and j ugoil llr'kiug nut and infciti'ng (lioulil be
!Without- embariaffment. . takeo fcparately. rI his was oj' Ard to,
'i ' At length, after fitting pre'cilriy 3 J as not in order j it was faid thai the mo
j.jnonttis, Mr. Randolph iritrociuctd his well j tipn was 3 fimple prop'ofition, and confc
.matOred bill to repeal the internal taxes. I qatutiy not 'diyifible by the rules of the
Thebill wai referred toa committee of the houfe. It was referred to the fpe'akrr,
.4(bole houft on Monday the 15 h of Mirch. j wh decided that the qneltion was not divi
jjSome difcufllun took plUee upon the flic j lible 't'he party not to be th at ted in
iiHts of thik perfelt bill, and Mt. Randolph ..tl:e r-conifc by t uJej,ilf.4Ket houfe nd de
Mwa coitvibced- that 't might be rendixd ij.cifiqna o their own 'fpeabei, appealed from
( iyt.tnore perftfl byfdiiielIightalteiaiion.j
jtle cutilequently introduced an amen metit
, Ywkcioh4 xne Original bill. A grn
, tleman remarked, that the atnentltnent !
! bughi to be printed for the life bfihemem
.- i a r-'" ", - .von. ui,ii
faid that was hi3 objeft : but he hi fn,crat
r&htr amendmehfs to proppfe, and thought..
i it belt to have them all printed at once.
s'It was mentioned that no other amendment
could be fubmitted while that was pend
's J,nS nut, the gentleman" might, wi.hdraw
his firlt amendmentj and offer the others
,. with it, after which the whole fmieht h
Dtrs DrtOre aftimrmnnn if. M, I? ...,t .!...
printed.
; f " Mr. Randolph accordingly withdtew his
1'Mng ameodmcnt , but not exaftly uuder-,-ftanding
what was to be donfc,next, l,c rnov
'Serf thar th
M l : r ",v;""""! "le, atiu as totwHH-l
fwie.peaxcr had relumed the thair moved
that the long amendment be 'printed;;'.'"
" Mr. GWury nkfir,.,! .L. u t.j
no
10b to iin okIi-i- f,r ;.;.. . i ...
j . tic iititj
lit n..Tv k- - .. . ' . r 8 "
, m roer to print a paper in
thatgemiernan'apa.ket N.-am end merit
J was beore tht houfe-nbne had been f e.
' frT ,1 l.he commi'f of the whole,
f 1,6 gtleman knew not ho'
..(" t ' r , , v.naoipH made a lone'.
;f Jchrt , the diffiiul. V (till fetn.fn.rl
pAt length Mr. Ra0dolph moved to go
back into commits of the whole, lor the
purpoft ot rtartriirf 11. , ,. .
it I ' I r . p ' ' l,c IH'UICat -
II cordmgly rtfolvcd itfcl, imo , LOlIimrtf
"-"". na me long amendment
" ,'f1 PP'rd, upon-bich theepm-
m nrfl ,e,3:1the houfe. ordered, the a.
mendmeni to be printed. ,
" Mr. RanMph did not chufe to liaza.d
tr Him ..,!,,... . .. . . . "
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MONDAY EVENING, May 3, 1802.
another ftep that day, and accordingly
' moved for an adjournment at an early hour,
and the motion was ratried. Of courfe,
this was not a " motion by the minority ''
" On Tuefday the bill-for repealing the
internal tali s was again irfutned : A num
ber of neiv ojjjeions vvere iriej againft
thisrV3 bill, and Mr. Randolph and hlk.
friends finding themfelves unuble to obvi
ate them were ag-sfn difcriricertd. A mo
tion was made to recommit it othe com-
mittee of ways and.meatii. It was faid to ;
be fo irusn icui 'har the committee of the
wh Ae and the houfe could uot adv.inta
peiiifly proC'-ed Aip'in itln rti prefetu form.
Mr Randolph admitted the foue of the fb
jtctuJns, complained that kfentlemen on the
other fide uf the boulc only pointed out
eirori:Mthoot:ffi5SK' , corfcA them,
but obj'eited to the recommitment feuch
was the im p erf eft ftate of the bill and fo
evident was vhe nereffity of dialing it
anew, that the little David of Ltgifl'tiuii,
after orie or two long fpeecheii, Sisiiug that
the qucftion could be no lon-gtr evaded,
called for an adjournment, after-'the !p.kr
had arife-n and Hated the qurflii-n to ne
haufc, but before the vo.e c. uid be taken
The A'ij miMrti'it w catrir l by the mi
irtcrf.i? party rho.'i.ih 'he o'er (idc of ike
houfe voted ag inll it.
vVheti the houfe met on VVedneflay,
Mr. Randolph lutrorfuce ' anoi Inr lo.tg1
ilrinj; of imendueiits whi' h he h'jped
Would remedy the faulu co.npl iutl ot, am)
fpdte him the m.i tiricat i 11 of' recon.m.i
merit. A f;reat pan of t! t day was fpen
in hearilig the irg U litut - d Ui.-. nvi;ilte;t
hi) t to prve that tlul. anien.lmtiiit,
would anier the v en!e ; '.iiially;
alrgT the jTieTidmenfa had tjeen arncTi Vd by
an cntrre new fcclioi) wliicfj Mr GudJard
iritrOvlustd, anil by an alteration of feve'a1'
ot."es, -they were a-i-ve 1 M. .Denti
Uctumjki.d.tB.riltjL at of the. li It fcc-
id pl ice of t.mi of ilk rcrtnrd a t-clc
named in the bid, fur the puipofs of try
ing ihe principle whether the fur plus re
vee fltoiild be (pared rxclufively from
j'"Vx:urTc or" iiFn--rn'itr-thv' necfffarieToi'
i .ife. The niinilUii-d' party, did not with
the decili-.it) of ihc bhair. i he queOion
' being put, " Is the a
'ton Of tile ibair in or-
tier ? ' 1 h e in i 11 1 ll e r u i 1 It . tenacious of their
turtufe. and aibing to com'iiafs their -end.
- wiu uevtr miaht be the niTa'iTii, determined
in the negative. tiere a W'li Micar farce.
Cumuienced rrfpt-cting the fecond part of
the motion. TlH-fe-wife leg til f! tires,- wit h
the little man ot Jlmg-s at their head; had
imagiued t'tiat by carrying the fir it part of
the rnot4tm in the negative, and leaving no
place defignated ' for the - infertion of the
word tnffce, they would be able to avade
that part of the sjueftion, and purfuing the
fame coutfe with the ameutjirie.it? which
they knew wcte to follow, congratulated
themfelves "upoii a ne difcovery by which
they expedted to keep their journals free
fiom the ' mention of thofe articles of ne-
ceffity which the conftit otionatills wifhed
to fubllitutc for the luxnrie3 named in the
bill. But bete again they . were brougli't
up,- a s t li e fa if ors fay rail it a rtdi rrgTby an a "
. ther rulj; of the honfe and'by a pofitive
declaration of the fpeaker that the uetfion
mi) It he put. ' Af er neatly an hour had
been coiifiimed, and no way difcoVered to
gt't out of the p.rplextty, a reconfidera
tioti of 'he vote for tiividi:ig the qnellion
was moved and feConded. After a variety
of remarks upon this motion, the fpeaker
role to put the qnellion, when an adjonfn
ment was called lor and earned by the mill
llterial fide of. the houfe.
" On Thurfday, after commenci.ig the
proceedings -of the (Uy. Jn-a. very .. curious
and novel manner, which... will . be noticed
furtheAin.; the houfe proceeded to. confi
der,fome urther amendmenta offered by
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Mr, Randolph, and Oen. Smith of Mary
land., Aftcrhe ufiial time of adjourn
ment, and when the meuibeis appeared to
le exhaufted by the labours of the day, an
idjoumment was iltced for by one of the
conftitutioTialifts, in crder, as is believed;
to give Mr. Grifwold an opportiiniry of
fubmittipg to the Jioiife a number of ar
guments, againlt the bill, but Which." he,
thought would not be heard wall patience
at fo late an hour. Qu this folitatyoc
cafion, it is true that a motion was made
by the tionftitutionalifts to a 'j -urnjwd
was not carried. Mr. Gtifvold went into
a very abb' and conclufive argument whiiti
drtained tht houfe to a very late hour. A
motivn was then made tu-ther t) amend
the bi'l. bv inicrtinp, -attt r (Ve- word.
"Jlanrptd ' ikJ'um, parchment and paper." the
wtVdk ";i und the etuFta un wpjtUu Iroivn
fugar,'y Mr Katidi.lpb had now got thtough
nh all-iIk amendments winch fce had t 1
, ffer. . He began to look, with cxireme -.icitude,
upon tbHt, tavourite child of hid
legifi iti.e labour. It had cult him man)
1 htO' S t'd convuifibiii," in the pro !uc
io-u, ai'd much anxiety ' and perplexity 111
I ie. i'Uji' U ri.t g ; and he became every in
,aicnt, more and rtoic dclirous o? ferl,g i
. Mi. of .he reach ot thofe who had bor n ; II
along, tn.ki .iiiy po n ing out to him d.e
toimiues which his patt rndl eye had lift
iiceitud, aud who for ought lb it he knew
iiht Itifi difoovcr as many m ire, fluuid
not be jJi'vrn them to examine it., li.
. i.e efoY hoped that, the bill would be or
dercd to be engroU'ed befve lie hnufe 1 . ui ;
i' j urn i andfor thepu'pofir nf Javing ttme
aid comicg at a prompt deciwn.' tie laid I.e
njld move for the previous qiiettii-n upon
ic amendment laft propofed. Ti e nn ti
011 btTug fecdnded it a put Ky the fpeak
" iheTc words" Shall the main queiiioi,
bfuow put And it was eanied in the
Jl e,ga t i ve: by the . miui fte il ftrft, - Havin g
ilMS cut the biifiriefs fliort, and as they
(li,ed!y i.n.agit td, furmounted all obltaelcs
tliey tnumpha itiy caded for the.q'j'efliO".
e ffi..g. But heie again, J,kc an ill
men, a rule of the h ufe, thwarted their
coutfe and onte more put them at a Hand
The fpeaker declared that the bill coo Id
net be engrofTcd while a motion to' amend
was endiiig, and this moTion, he iarhTd"
been hung up by the previous" qtieltion
jult tdken. Upon this, the OiiiiiHerial
gemlcmen began to manifelt fome doubt
of-the expediency of the mode which they
had adopied (or Jav-ng time, and coming at
a prompt decilioor Tliey attempted to
teirace their Heps, and called for the qnelli
on on the amendment upon which the pre
viuus quellion had been taken Here aifo
ihey were equally entangled ; for the fpe.ik.
er declared, in confotmity with the rules
ofthe houfe, that it was not in order to
put the main nneliion on any mouonlfi"
fame, day on which the previous, qthdlion on
men motion hail heen put and carried in
the negative. It was now eviderit, tha
nothing further could be done --witl-rAit
getting rid of thefe rules, and for that pur.
pofe Mr. Elmendfirf, who has fometiines
been called t he Bird 'to f IVifck de iiarided
an a peal from the decifibn of the fpeaker,.
Here again the ftft were reduced to the
perplexing alternative either of going di
rectly in the teeth of all rules ofordei,
and again dtferting iheir fpeaker, or eJfe
of Hopping fhort, and abandoning the tru
uniph of a prompt dtcifion. In this dilemma
anadjinrnment was called for, and-carried
bitt not by the minority. . .
" Having thus Itated to you the manner
in. which the miniilerialifts ilajfed their ff
finns upon fotir of the days occupied in
the bulinefs of repealing the internal taxes,
I tv ill now give you an account of the man .
iter in which fome of thofe feffions com
menced. The Intelligencer continues .
In his my f al devotion of public 6'ifjnei .
ifje.eitiifuj piltdifiira tamhblrfbMiwit-rar
terminate the fejfton at " the earliejl peridd"
It is a very haid thing to decide up in men's
intentions, and I will not undertake to fay
that the miniiterial gentlemen are not fo-.
licittuto expedite public bufinefs : but if
I were difpofed to writhe nheir ttil'iR'ujafc
knowmg-tlipprogrels wnicrt they have
made dating the prefent feffiun, and 'bar-
tieulaily -Tttiowiiig t' e hiHory of the blil
now under confident inn, I fliould never
mention that Mitittide, left I fhould be
thought either to fatirize them or to im
peach thtir ulenti. Will .the'Jntrlligen
cer place to the account of this folicitude
tlien-9 houn and a half pent by, thefe gen
tlemeu oV'l Eurfday, in makiug, debating,
''.T.Vif-, ' -r-f ... .
Vol,. Vil. NuMfi. 3'7'
and withdrawing motions to amend t"c
minutes of ihe day bcf.re? 'the pai'
which thjy wKhcd to have flricken out
were thofe which recorded the decision of
the chair on the indivifibjlity of. Mr. Den
nis's motion, and that which fays that a
deb'ate arofe tpon a querlion of on ct. It
was faid by the miniilei ulills, who were in
favour of (tnking out, that the journals
ught not to contradict the pofitive rules
of the houfe, aud thofe rules dire 61 that
no debate fliall b had Upon a qaeltion of
order. On th8 occafjon Mr. Davis, who
.8 father Hubborn, and not fo well broken
111 as the generality of .the left, ebelltd,
and declared that if the journal was not
confiftetit with the rules of the 'houfe. it
was. coulilluit with trsjtlu and with the
proceedings .$ifch it rett.ded, and tbijfcf
Ihould vute aga1n"R"''rtrli4ig cut. . ieveral
o . be coijftiiuuotialiiUftppoled the motion.
I'hey faid th-l the conttitution compel!-. d
.he iioule 0 keep a journal, and tb We
ubj et was jo enable, the public to judge
wnctht r thtir proceedings were correct a net'
pr per or not. The precedent of finking
uiit what all atknowledgr u to be a ti tie
(l i'i tnent of ladls, was dangerous in the rx
tcme. if the mij.irity ivere at liberty to,
record only fuch patts of rlieii- proceedings
.s .hey might chafe, ilu- inititioii ofthe"
.otiili utiori would be fruit-ared, and the
'I'.iu.fe might as well keep no journals. Mr.
liajari. Lid, ihat if gentlemen would tun
; iiemltivcii into exctiies and ccntr.-vene the
uks i f order for the purpnfe of coming
at an oljeft which they had in view, and,
after fl.tpiiig'tipon t, could come into the
houfe aid new moiiel their Journal io-eop-.-ini'ty
with their cooler judg rit'nt, it
ould be better to ke p in. j.iui i.a . tor
vhey tould ank'er 110 purpofe but .to de-.-ceive
the public and pottrity. .'Ho Viifiit
cd, that though tht mijority have the phy. -ficl
pwi ol controiirigpt hcir own journal! '
and rcndeiiog them what they pleafe, yet,
iiijullice and propriety, they can exereife
that power only in rtndtiing the recoid
confoi mable witii, the fucts which it records.
his vas acknowledged on all hands to he
the cafein the ptefent inltance. 'He faid
ti the principle now '.contented for' by the
other Ike of the h life, fisould prevai'l, he
Ihould not tie: " futpt
brought forwatd to ' eufe from (he j Turnals
the ye'as and nays, -"Whe ne r'r the tnai-jrity
nu'giit wifii to conce.il the names nt'thcfe'
who had voted (or or agatntf any pauicn-i-a
meafure.- It was laid in ituiv, that
ihejoiiroalb are eniirely in the power of the
uouic, diiu 1 wiinx it was I'.irnen.iiii t, iut
itv.as cei tainly fome one of the fed, who
dctlarrd that the majority might, if tley
plcaled, expunge the yeas and nays? Af
ter many other remarks, which it would
not be convenient for you, nor very honor
able fbr our .'national legtflature, to l..y be
foi'e the. public, the motion ivdt mith
drawn.
Mr, Randolph moved to amend that
rpartof the journal which Hands in tfiefe
wdtds : -
Another motion was then made and fe
cohded, farther to arfithd the bill, by (Ink
ing out in the faid fts.lt feflion thereof,
the words ' faks at auftion," for the pur
pcfe of iuferting 111 lieu thereof the word
cope -' "r ' . .-. v.
The pfopofitio.'n was to flrikp. but ofthe
j-i;in al the words " for the pvpoft of," and
the words " in lieu thereof," in order to in.
fett the word " and," fo as tb mske ihe
jonr'rial read, " by Itriking out in the faid
firlt fecHio'i thereof, the words tales attiue-
tion, and inferting the word.i. Upon
'this motion Mr. Bacon made a long fpeech
and apparently proved to his'o'wu fatTsfac
tion 1 hat a vciy nice diilincftton ought to
be taken between the impbrt f the w'oids,
and infer tingi' and the words "for the
furpofe ofipftrt'mg?.'. - "JJe faid that as the
motionHlood Tecorded upon the journal,'
there could he no doubt that it was a fim
pie propofition : that" it could not be di.
vided and that he, on the appeal from the
dicifion of the chair, had 4ted wrong in
declaring that decili'vn to be not in oider.
But. the cafe, he iufilted. would be veiv
''ditlrreni4ipdn a queftiort put iri-the other
tortn It you had ever heard this old gen
tleman fpeak, you would feel in. inclina
tion to fee his arjjU.iKnts recapitulated in
this., place. Suffice it to fay that be m.a'e
a long fpecchi and f convincing was it, that
as foon as he fat down, Mr, Jlandylp!) with- .
drew his motion. The motion made the
evening before to reconfider the vote for
dividing Mr; Denim's molioa wai ibea
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