i i WOT 71' on at er 'he. U tll 'he it- iJV- of of in the RAL'E . . BE RCE AU.'- - THE leaeUV ot the debate in Congress an Ike repeal ..k. L.Mu-lirv. arKvented our Kivini ia thrir due coane. thole en othJt ubjecl we however, eera . ,k nWinr a 'the resolution of Mr; Guswold worthy of uuertion t thiV late fttw&ZJL. "e , Jof the ormeiadromistrttion. were wronj in . " applying money wiihwt. pifie,pEriont. . ' what prais. 11 due Mr. Jsfferion fjf, enpeWmj 33 - V; thooiiid daliari on a French ve-sel wthvut any pJ - -V- " RefoUed," ,ttul 'the ; fccreury of ftite ie direaed Jo repoit t hi houfjt whether fiht Jfum of,ja,839 d- ' ud ff cenu 'expended jo the repairs put upoo the eor; l ette Berceau before her delivery to the t Freoch Republic wa expended W fit the Berceau tor tb;. lertrice iw .tne unitea State, orioxjlbe purpofe qf deliming her up in ood; conditioo to the French Re public : in Conformity to the irpulationa of the coneotioo of the United Stt aRd I Fraoce'-an'd that he tranfmit to thk houfe t copies ol U papers io hi office, which re i. late to the repairs of the Beicett,t I , General Smith , who .afied as fecretety of fthe Nay and ga the orders for repair single Beiceau, appeared to be alarmed y the " refolutioh,; and , propofed that it fj UlOUltt Me oq f ne .i- w K' ?. Mr' rZ, ',tialA (A thrr wai orit dif. cultf in 'callinjf up a refIution laid npon the table, and for that reafon he hoped it Would be imniedialy vaced upon. He faid there vwasf nothing in ; the rtfoluiiou Which required deliberation! it merely afked for a fad which the houfe ooht tu know and which the Secretary could ery readily communicate. He had never fup pfed that there ,wss aoy fecret. irj the meis wntcn gentlemen neea to neutaic aaout ; ir, mat was toe caie . ana tncy would fay lo. he had no wi!h to draw ft out : it not, mere couia oe no reaiaa tor hholding the information from the hJufe, and time would be faved by acting ufon it imruediately. ; . '. - v t-Guehopsd theconUderation of the rcfoltitioa would be pottponed. He 'da. led -knowledge of any fceftcy , but wtftied for ... yrnslto..con'idcr the fubjecV He believed that ;the . order for repairing the Berceau was , given by the former ad minittration, aod that the prefetit fecretaiy had only completed what the former. One hadf bcgun",HBeTies, he Cid, the refolution calledfctheJnativei ofthe-X"ecutiver which he coofidered as improper. Mr. BajirJ hoped the refolution would be afied upon immediately. It was im materTal to him "What adminiftralion had given the orders ; but it was important to know for what purpofe the money had been expended, whether for the. ufe of the United Statei, or for the -ufe -of France. Another srgomeot which (hewed, the im. portaoce ' of the :informatin Teas" the dif ference of opinion between himfel add the gentleman from Virginia lad up. '; He had good Veafon to believe, end from very re cent converfat ion with the former fecretary of the navy,' .that t hat fecretary had eiprefs-' ly ordered that . no 'exptnfes mould be bt owed upon the Betceau. It was proper :n -i i.,-r. ml ttr the hare an thr ther his information or. that of .the gentle- . an from Virginia was correct. He de. c!ared, that- he could not fee how the in ormation-NCould be denied 5 all that the refolution afkfcjd for was a Jimple fad, whe ther the llsrceau wasripaired si a trench vcilel or an American veffel ; it was cet tarnly proper that this fact : Ihould be known t-Neer before the. preftbt; fefllon had he knpwn information denied, wlicn that information was neceflary to enable members to form correct opinions upon any fubjecYof national importance; This in turmatioe could be prociitcd : with little trouble, could certainly do no injury, and ought r, therefote to . be . j5ranted,vvthough thole who are in (iabits. of intimacy with the affairs of the cabinet, may not: want it on tlieir own account;, He faid ,the gen . tlcmln776tnMarylam, Geru : Smith thiuks wrought not to be continually trou hlinrr th rv.fi.!.f . T - il B ' " -r, ... -.m.iv willLyo 1 wc mull VMll elude then that thefe efficers are no' lonuer to le conCdered a feivants. I had not expeded, faid he, fo foon after this houfe has voted to thofe officers a ery : confider ablc iftcreife, of falary t0 be told that we muft not ilk fr iiiformitioa-'!LMpfMtia us, lor tear ot giving them trouble A r . . & " . . . gentleman has faid that we are calling for the motives of the. executive We fimply lk, was that (hip repaired for the United btaus or !MvFrance i . Geo tie men will not IGHt P ub lis hed eve ry TUES D A'Y'i t HOD GE M BOYLA N. Mil us that the' " interefts of the United Statei arid of France have become fo entire ly-one that it can be, of po importance to the legislature to know whether 31,000 doU Fan taken- out of the treafury' has been "ex pended for the ufe of the United States' "0 for theytile of Francer" ;V ; "''i, General Smith, propofed to amend thj; refolution by linking out fecretary of Rate, and inferting feoretary bf'the oavyi't Whe ther the general fuppofed that his brother the fecretary of the aavy, "would ' make a. more frank and impartial dlfclofure of this affair, o which he feeraed fo much inter? cited, than would be made by the fecretary ol ftate, he did not directly fiy-J e ' was howeVer oppofed to the refolution, even if amended as he propofed,' becaufe it went to demand the motives of the executive and to aflt fot'erl at purpofe they had made tVe repairs.-- .M'--; . r ' Mrr Date -hid tio objeftion to ' the a. meodment propofed, if it was thought mote proper to make the inquiry of the fecretary of the V'He was, ; however, of opinion - that there would be no impropriety in male itig 'the application to the fecretary of Ifate, as that officer had already, of hisfowa accord, made fe?ral ffatements refpeftVig' the -JfereMw, aUd ths fun expeiirff iJTiv pairingher. He declared hi nfclf iin-bfe to uhdeHlattd the force of the objection' which gentlemen maTe to the refolution, on ifie ground 'of its being ao enquiry i 1 V . to executive motives, ' He bad not.ieari the intentions of the executive relative to, 'his affair impeached, nor did he feel any inclination to 'impeac'h . them , but he', thought" it proper that the houfe mould i know whether that Vcflel was nitei up at a. public expenfc for the ute of the United States or for thit of the French nation. .Mr. Gdct fa id a geu deal of noife had been- made about this veffel, and much clamour had been raifed again (I the Prtfi dent under au idea of his partiality to France,. f gentlemen etpefted to increafe this clamoary the refolution now brought' forward, they, would be difappotnted. ny fci6bleMtt-wtwWTirirndedra" rev fledion to convince him that there can be no fympathy between the executive of this country and that of France. He hoped and believed .thit the prcfident felt no par. tiality jo the government of any .foreign nation ; certain be was that he felt no Xuchpai tiality-for-tbat -of - Francer"No two governments could be more diametri cally oppofed to their views and objects than th governments of thefe two nations. Mr. Giles faid, that a very few days, would convince the world that no fympathy ex itls betwten the executive cf this . country and that of France. He was oppofed to the refolution ; he thought it improper and that the piectdent would be dangerous, yet to convince gentlemen that he was dif pofed to fatiafj their zeal he fhould vote for it, v. " Mr . Randolph went into a zealous dif cuffion ot the tcfoliitioni laid before Con gtefs Tor an enquiry icfpe&ing Jonathan Robbins, He laid .bat the- information called for on that, occafion wa denied. - Mr. Bayard proved ttom the journals that the gentleman's ftatement was not correct j that the houfe did allow the call to he made, the infofinaVion was fufailhed by the piefident aud acted upon by the ; houfe. . He toped the fame Courfe would be purfued on the pi-eteni occafion. A long C'Jtiveifdiion tefpeciing Jonathan Robbins took 'place, and would probably have continued much longer had not the fpeaker called back the' attention of 'the houfe to the refolution undei confide rau OH. . " , Z ! . General Smith, whoappeared not at all to-tijuy the debate;"'mOved to llrike out J all that part of the refolution which trien , tions thc-fum expended, and which makes the inquiry whether the expenditure was to fit the Betceau for.the fetvice of the Unit ed Sjajejorfreliyery 16. France.: .Mr. Mcholfon faid that it wes thejfirft time that be.had heard of a propofitioo for cal ling upon the executive for their motives tor inquiring wnar was inetr'ODjecx in ao tog this or that. He faid that the prefent ' fecretary 1 could not . give' the information demanded by thr reloluttoti, and if he could, it would be improper to a flc for it. ' ,' - CtntralSinUhMiMTtf Lia amend mentir . Eujl'u propofed to amend by" calling for all the paper relative to the purchafe at well as. the repairs of the' Berceau. He faid fame fa&t )Dpt expected would be dif. clofed. , ' '. ' ; . . ' , '- ' " ": Mr. GrifwoUhti nejbjeciot to the a -4 mendment, and wi willing to carry the ' inquiry to aoy extent thit gentlemen might ! chule.. tie laid he was lurprifed to find gentlemen (till excufing the denial of jnfor mat ion which they feemed difpofed t o make, "under the plea, that the refolution was an enquiry into motives. He put a cafe Which .Kefaid wat parallel. Suppofe an applica tion mould be made to purchafc cannon and tall for the'nayj, arid another to purchufe cannon 'and bait ; for the army. No one rould pretend that military ftore could be purchafed out of the. navy fund.. Suppofe then, that the government (hould purchafe quantity ot cannon apd ball from the fund fppropriaied to naval purpofes J every one jvould fay that the 'legiflature wou'd. have a iigbt to enq ilrc, nay, it would be their du jy to enquue for what , purpofe t,hife fup flies wire puich.if.d, and whether the mo Ky had b ren applied tiirormhly to the lireAf jii of the i'Taw.7--So tm this ,cafe we pett'y inquire to what purpofe a certain (urn of public money has been expended t fn d when ih.s q i-ition has been ofiicullv Mfwered we flia.l be able to dscide whether ;eie Was -y appropiiatipn which would tify iich an expnditarc. Mr. Bicmt wa eda div fion of the anef. job, 1 j tu.t a voteuiiiht t.ttl betoken ui os that part if the icfolution which ho faid fnquiied iot the motive wf the rvpair, & .fterWATkts u,on that which called for the CipK-s ot pipers and document. ; He faid he (hould be 'oppofed to the iwil and io fa vor of the Uft. He faid he denvsnd in the rfToIutiun'- was ju.l as improper as it-would ' be 10 de;nanU of the Prefi Jefit," what was t -a oVj.;c in recommending a ripeal of '-the. iiit .'in.l taxes whethei to tcleve the citi z.is of a b iftheii, or to detlroy the go vernment. The cafes are exjet'y (Imilar. Mr. Bacon rept ated this three tmiesi aiid th en he fat down. , '' Mr Afjrrit of New York, moved to a rind the ret'oltuion by li nking out the fe . crtaryjarid 1 ioferting fo as to rfquellthe Piefident to diredlt 'the p'opcr of&ver to lay the information before ihejioufiv.;.-, VC! Xrrifwotcl egrted to the amendment to 1 it was of cou'rfe adopud. The quellion was called for. Some inquired wlut the ejaeriion was Mr. Grifwold remarked ihat no alteration had been made in the le- I fo In lion. '. Z -'.Z r4 . - - Mr. N'uholfon faid he did not very well underftand the qu' Ition, and therefore mov ed to adjourn The adjournment was car ried, -i-, Thofe who are not acquainted with the myderiesof the prefent oid;r of things will think it very unaccountable .that the minil teria tills fliould fpend two days in oppoli ig the admiflion of an article of in for id it ion fo perfectly reafonable and fo evidently im portant as that afked for by the rtfoloiion. The fubjeft 'defeives a little explanation. It is ftated in the documents laid before Congrefs. that' the repairs put upon the Berceau coft nearly 33,000 dollars. It is well known that when thefe repairs were ordered the was jntended to be delivered up to Franc. It is further known that no ap propriation was made by law for this pur pofe ; that the .Prefident, in his mefl'age, has talked about fpecinc appropriations, & cenfured the expenditure of money without lucli appropriations." It appears by the do cuments laid before Congrefs that the mo nine expended in the repair of this veflll were taken from the fund appreciated to the tupport ot our own oavy, and that by applying them in this manner, they have been diverted from the objeft of the ap propriation and applied to defray the ex penles ot our foreign intercourle. Eveiy body knows how much clamour has been ratfed agatnft the former admini.lfations. flot for taking monies ftom-a fund appropri aiea w one oojeci ana applying them to a totally different objcot, as has been done here, but tneiely lor making particular ap plications . under general appropriations 1 fuch as applying parts of thefurrds appt 0 priated to naval putpofes to the purchafe of naval yatos, Rc. Under thefe citcumltanc. ei, the minifteririliils could not be prevailed upon to have official documents laid before the public, which would prove-that 'they have gone fo much beyond all former exam ple in the djferetionary application of pub lic money, at the very time that they were -crytng-ourgainft allowing any diicretion whatever. ;. - ,.f - On l iiefday, April 6th, Mr. Grifwold'i refolution was again called up, when Mr. Grifwold rofe and faid, that he thought it important that the refoluiion 'which he had M lubmitted to the houfe fliould paf in foue - -.- Vol. VII. Ntjub. 32' Jortt), but he was difpofed, as far as poflt kjc to. remove every objecltion to the par ticular phrafeology j and as fome gentlemea had thought the form; in . which it waa prefented yetterday, exceptionable, ' be would, for the purpofe of meeting their ideas, and of removing the objeftiona which had been raifed,-withdraw that refolution and fubrait the following. " Refolved, that the Prefident be reoiirfl ed to direct the proper officer la rn,i IA thit houjn; whether the urn of ti,Z$g do'lart and 54 cents ivat impended upon the torvette Berceau after it viae . determined to deliver tie fame to the Frentb government atrteahl H th JlipalatioM f.the 'cpnvcntien between the United States and France and JtoJ.y before this houfe copies of all papera aid "documenta relating to that vtfltl." , . Mr.Giki. moved to fit ike out that part " j f itie i efolut ion which is printed in ' I talics. He faid he houfe had 00 right to the infor. itiation afked for by that part of the refolu tiont: it rclatedt t o an act purely executive SI thchuvfef had it) right to interfere, and to iiiqune ol the., executive.-; whether ar not ' their motives were pure. r. Mr. BaiM could not vote for the refolu tion unkf amended, brranf- k- ..-.,t.. u indicated an , uureafonabic j -alotify cf the executive. . . j . Mr. Grifwold hoped the motion lo flrike out would not prevail. That vefTtl, faid, he, was purchaled bf the United States, it . was repaired at great expenfe, after having been dif mat led, aud was delivered up to the French The gentleman from Virginia has very correctly It a ted that this was an exe cutive act.' Fhe VefTel was repaired and de., livered up by the executive alone. .We wifh to be inloimed by the executive of Certain fatts relative to this transaction. We do ' pot afk to be tuformcd of-motives. The, money which was expended upon the vef fel was publicnione) j it was money appro-f ptiated to naval purpofes j we now wifh to knyw vrliether it ha been applied, confor--ni'ably to the appropriation, 19 defiayirg the txi.eiius.of our, naval taablilh.neot, or. without, an spprppriatiori in carrying into , cxtcBtion our ueaty . -w'lfh' Fraoc : I have never known foch Infortnation denied when, alked tor. The information alktdforby the -refolution' is fimply wlietherjhis eJtpcnV. diture of public mouey" was prior or fubfe quent t t the eetei miua.tioa- of ihe-execur live to deliver up the veffel. We have a tight to know in what manner the public money is expended, - and it is our duty to . inquire whether it has been applied accord, ingio jaw, cuppole the Secretary of the Navy Ihould apply a fum of public money to the election of a building upon his own ground ; wi;u!d not ihir houfe have a right tq inqui.e lor what purpofe' that building was etecied, whether for marine barracks or for his own piivaie ufe, and wuld it hot; be the duty of the executive to give the in foimatior. rYetJuth an inquiry would be as much an Inquiry ' into motives as abac contemplated by the refolution. If Con. grefs du, its return to this place fhould find a jnew. building eiefted ar the public cxpeofe. and attached to the capital, would it-not- ' . be DiopeV to iuq jire of the Piefident why this had been opne,' for what puipofe it was dtfigned, and having obtained the in formation, to judge whether the public good required iuch an expenditure? -Mr. Mo, ris of New Yoik. 1 am fur. prifed that gentlemen perfift in denying thi information This is indeed a new doc trine.--' What 1 have not' the reprefentativea of the people aright to ipqujre into the ex. pendiiuie of public money ? Are thepurfe itnugs of the natioiV hereafter to be held cxdulivcl) by the executive, and may we not even'ifk what is done with ths money which' we raife from the people i This is cattying executive 'infallibility Very far in deed. Gtnilemen fay that the examinati on would redcUnd to the honor of the ex ecutive that hc more the-moiives wltich . -aduate-theprefchrdmrnTIEB'tT are ; known the. more they will be applauded.' Why then refufe them fuch an opportunity ot acquiring the juft applaufe of the Ame- vficar peopled - , ' . ,' Mr-. Davis was impatient to fee the re folution di lpofed of. He faid , the fetfion ,ws drawing to a clofe ; much buflnefs of public importance retrained to he done and . "here were two 'days confumed in arguing 'abeul a refolution, for he had 00 doubt but tbe difcufiion was to laft through the day, Yclleiday, tie faid, was fpent in tbe fame way, jo propofing and dife tiffing" a mendrueuts, arid juft as the refolution WM (For a anclvf.on fetlafl fte) mm I ' ''..',' a ' :M Up ..'':::T .... S-i" f ' -11 - ' r . . 1 . - J " .. -V; . i