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T i - .1 '. y. mttaken,. but if ic is the cafe, why tn the 1 paid tofte creditor!. ' fcutVTaid Mr. G. ; name of common fenfe and common honef. ( although I can fee no neceflity for the-ad-y79 it not been (tated m the report. ', If vance of for large a fum bevond what was due, yet arl ptefume that it is neceffary to keep in advance "a ctrtam fum to.theloan officers beyond that which is payable ; for the, purpofe of preventing' any poffible dif appointment ,in the reguJar quartetly, pay ments , to the. creditors, . I, mail make- no. further otje&itm,. tc: this advance, fc Jong a the commiflioners do not actually Cnarge to the public,, more rriari" ia acTually.dric to the creditors. And . as thi3 fum is to be coofidered aa an advance from the Trcafury, and not a charge of the commfflidners, I omitted to, notice it when I was Tuft up.' . It had bver; faid in reply to bis remar&i on the i m prop vict y o f re n de r ihg an ac cb'u tit on eftimate, thaihe- com'miffioner cou'd do no more. "than eJlimaic ihe remittances to Holland until theyfreceived the account of the baukers at, An.fterdaru.--. Rut. faid Mr. G. the flightelt attention will convince gentlemen that thefe le.nittanccs to Holland have nothing to do with the account of the batikct3v-,.( The eommiffioEers undertake oi.ly4to Hate what 'rejnittaoces they had purchxfed and, paid for ia this country tie fore i he a ft of January, 1803, and it vvas ! this had- bee? donef we might' determine ' 'if CnV nn rf,-l- Know fir Um tfi covered.- The gentleman from Maryland however has faid that 7,994 dollars 92 cents has been i paid to foreign officers, and 14 966 dollars 84 cent for certain '-parts ot the domcftic debt, which were not in. r eluded in. the 1 fltatffmentswbicr) I lubmit ted to the houle, and .that thefe payments appear In the firft ftateraent on page 6 of the commifiiBers report. If faid Mi . G. (;tbW gentleman from Mainland will reexa. mine the ititements to which he refers, . he Vj will find that he has takenthe debtor fide of the account and earned it to" the credit ; of the cominiffioners. The gentleman will : find that the two fums of 7.994 dollars 92 ; cents and 14 966 dollars 84 cents are only c " dilLurfcrne.rits ffom ihe treafury to the com miflbners, to suable ihern to difcharge a 1 ;debt due,tof foiegn-oflicerg and to dif T charge., certain tpattsof thc dptneftit debt, y ; which, ud, He.' G. I ippofo to,beAtlie re-. - giftered debt, on which ..itcrjfthas for fr- vend years "been flopped, and, the principal 7 ordered tabe J)ad.rJr And nf ooui fe itiat tti ..... ... .f - .i:j.iwird.;.fumi--.-aod are.--not entitled, to rr T s to hrtteditor8y""6ovincTth that 1 am Tight I beg that he wiJI. ;ck a . gain at page 6 of the report, r He will there find at tha top of the page the account cf all the difijarfeoftentsrom theTreafury in , 1802, to the commifionera inclaJin'th. "TwIifiiijwliIdvSeliar , iog the aggregate of 9 372.752 dollars 28 .cents. s For this aggregate, together with t .the untxpencJed balance of guilders in- Hol ' land at the clofe of tht yrr 1 801, the com .miiEoiiera .arc uuaccouutable, and ought to be charged j and if the the gentleman will then look down to the bottom of the P3ge he will rind all the payment's., which the "commHSoners claim to have made .ti".lb.e creditois.. The wool's ufed by the com. miffiorieri a e That the above nse.ntiored d'fb'ufeirients made during the year 1802, snd amo!i4tioi? to 'dollars o,? 7 1,7 r 3 i3 . cents, togethec v.ith the above mentioned -IT balance cfgoilJers 2 31 j. 84 9 !h vshich ? reuiu!cd unexpended on the til day of Jin jai-y 1802, have Iten app'nel at follows, that is taT fay," After w hich words, fo!, lovv ihe panic ul.iritems which he ha i eriu. rheratcd when he was Srft up, and which conftituted the actual applications tf the money to the debt, together with the tfli mated rtrn.it tances to Hollartd, ad whtu deducted from the ag-j'fgaf 9 of d 'flv.irf-. mentS'frora the tfeafury, as he ha J already mentieried, left the balance cf dolls. 1 14 839 44 centf, for which no account had been 1 rendered. 7 , y It may pcrhnps, faid.Mr, G. be pietcsd ed hereafter, that fomething has been paid . to foreigacffi:er?, an J , oa apcount of the f regidered debt ; but he hoped thegent'eman from Mirylan l wa3 new fntiified ' th: t no .,; tiling of 1 hit kind appea-e i in the piefent 1 report.. IadVei faij Mr. G. if thefe Tteax fury difi4femeut8 'at the top A page 6, of the repoit, are to be conliiercd cs charges ' ;2 of die artinl pjjmrnt of thofe vjri-us furr.s ;; : trt the creditors, he (hculd then be com it. peiled to make a much more formidable charge againit the commiffioueVs, btcaufe it i vbuld be' raoie certain and direct Ti c - charge would then bethat tlie corpminion j crs.had charged the public, with dollars 5 620 94cents, on. account ij" paymen's to the domcftic ct editors beyond the fume which were due to them or ever actually ' ;paid, and that' this Turn wis retained by the ; ' commifli'inets by rendering a flfe ace un ' . -To convince gentlemen. faid Mr. G. thit'l ''vraspeifeSly cotrcft in thij ftatemenr, Ire ' ferred them to the Tieafury report of lalt 1 year," foi tire pflrricular (ami w'hith wete t due to the domellic creditors in the year i.8ca.r-TkpLjoinB werc as'fwllow ; For reihibutfemrnt and intejtlt on the 6 per ctt.t : and deferred (lock '.-.'',' For iflterctl oa ihe $ per cent flock . . . , Fot intcreft on all other v dcfcripUyns of domeftia dehtk T fu'rdy in their power to itite the precil'e fitrn purchafednd txai l for. and tux obieii.m ! Hch, fit au'eht' h'l 8' pichtre7-hr-e draw a wotdJ have b' i fj,::t ha t i a tteadr of ;:do-io 3 'eat ia an eftimate, which Knew might he half a million widiofthe truth. Mr. Randolph explained and faid, that it cjm'd not be uppofed at the time the report was made the commiffioncrs had employ ei u purcnaung rcmitucctj tic knew it had nothing to du with bankers in Holland.! v Mr. Grifivold fard that the cxplann'ofi did not in the Jealt rnend th; report for tr3t the co3,miffioncr8. had declared in their report that there remittances were cxcluGve ot monies ia' the hands of accnts, and cf courfe cootainedenjy: thefc purchefes cf remittance!), of h;c!i the comm : fierier s had rect'ived regufar accounlf, and the oljeclion as had been before explained, was nut rn'y that the had not itafed preciftly Uie a monot of Temi'.,t ances", but that they iia'drnbt Hated the monies reraainingTn the hands of" agents. (;.; .. v, ; ... ... : ',. One gentlerasn frcm Maryland (Gecersf Smith) has meritioncd the fa!e of the bank iharts, and txpreired hisipprobation tftht extraordinary mtifure. .That ttan.faftio.-i had nothingto do, faid. Mr, G, w ith the re folut.toa, under coDfideration He hAntd however b the fuljeft had been mentioned as late as it wa?, that it would be brought under difcufTinn-r Hv tTioold howevr con lent hiinielf at "this time, with faying that from a careful f xaminatioi of the law of. 179, at.d the ciicumliances of the lale, he wa?. puifuaded that the. fafe wa,3 unauihoiiz ed by la. and th?Vth?s large, amount of prpj'tr'y w.s facriiice i by-a lale mnchbe low its va'ue, cinJ that he differed altogether frjm the gentleman from Muyland in re (ptdt to the.nectffiy and piudtnce of the niea fu re. t . " "" . , Mr.; Grifwold f;;id that he wculd contlaJe the remar Wi which he ha I to fubmit upon hc refolution, S3 no oppi'fitioj had Wen made to it, by faying that ahhocgh hi did not ch rge the commiffionfts wi h any ab -folute mifapplicaiion of ihe puWc money; ytt he kne w that :n te rnanagt mi nt uf ten raillioos. favorites might eallly accommo; dated with the ufe ol large fum?, and thofe who con! c;!ed this erxirmns fum might in a variety ?t ways avail-themfelves of its ufe, without leaving much room for detection even-after a detailed account had been red. dered. !,!,!!.... ... ff ... ' -j- 2 a.. 1 MV JX ) Maj: iictiuai j rovnioa az?uui us repetitiont let us array he llreogm ct -the nation, 'ami be ready to do with prompti tude and effect, whatever a regaid tojuftic? and our future fecurity may require. .. ' Accept aflTiiranccs of my high confidera tion and refpeft. ' Signed, - Th : JEFFERSON. Exctl!ency.the Governor eftbejaic ej Ken; Tori. Rmarh:i-Wz. have copied-jhe above fr on , the "Aurora. ' It was lately -communi-caieJ by the Governor to the legifliturc cf Nev-York. The reader; wul perc.i7c that one part of this prefidential httCr' is arrant rronfenfe. Th-j fentence beginning"; Ami although Wt .art willing to ielUve' Sec, is in complete. -..""Whether the fault lie with the writer or the'pi inter we know nor.' One or twc of the fentiments expreffed in this letter deferve to be noticed. Itisex prefoly admitted, that rights the moft tf fential to our welfare have beCl violated, Sc aa inflation of treaty committed without colour1. or pretext.'- jf ih" rre AJent had added, that two millions of dollars have beei, fccretlyaiopriateJ and fent. to l'lancc, and between t-.v. and tliree Othotifand mGr? to New Oi !?.)", for the, purpofe of getting this broken tfeaiy inendedi-aml thfe i'atr' mat been ..Q.'-li more complete... u. We knovv not e'sa&fylc'hat are Mr. J.-f ferfon'siijtions of the liw of nations. We flioukl fuppofe from ihz expreflion hire uf iVl- ne -JlJw&fogJa.-J'dievet-ithtt a private individual of a nation is capable of iufiinginjT a public treaty .; foyf the iidrac lion came from an amhpiifed and accredited ofS:cr cf the Spanilh or French governtr.cnf, it is the aft of the government.... V . It is a little extraordinary that, Jnn;nae of this kind fhould; at t his period, be found in an oflicial communication froiirtbe prefi. ' dent. When Mr. Grifwold, pnj fed in congnfs a rtfohition to tail vfpon the prefi dent for fuch documcuts as he might thiirk propti to communicate relative to th? Cf fit on of Lonifiana to France, , the democrats with' one voice. cried out, that .Spain vvculi be offended, becaufc the: adopt ion of the re fo!ution woul J indicate a fnfjpicion ihr.t iun hd bee) fomething. unfair on her part Mow the prefident officially ..drtfarep, in fo nnny cordi, that there h:-, sheen a violan'on afour rights,, and an infraction ii treaty' without colour fr prttf xt. : How is foch incor.fi ler cytobeaccone'ed for ? Mufl we be forced into the corjviilion, that' though we have rrinirters refident at the courts of Spain and France, the prtlidcnt Ins been fo lhamcfully negligtnt cf his duty 33 to luffer more than fiftrtn months to tlaj fe, 'after' t he cfffion of thefe provinces wss pnblickly knawny-wiihoHt afcertaing in what manner 'he transfer is to:.ffeift cur r ights and inrrr el's ? Was it to prevent an expnfure of this negligence that the rehdution was negativ ed , T Gtiz. U. S. The Mowing are lite nam;3 of the t)i. reftors : ... ;: i Oliver Wolcott, Prefidciit Richard V.u t ick, Jotlua Jones JPeter Jay Manfoe, J&bn Kmc, William tW. Wouilcy, Ifaac brui. fun, Tkomas Storm,' John ' Hane, .Joftn ' Swattwut, Henry WyckolF, liaac Hicki, Robert Gilchrilt, JsmeT Rofevelt,' Jolhui Sands, Wynant van Zandt, jun.'( It is worthy remaik, that every oteol! the above gentlemen are American botot and all excepting two, of tliat Hate, , Weolferve, fays a New. York paper, by . one of tn"e morning papers of tall Week, that Mrs. Ds BORAH CJannst is in this city on -her ay to the SouthwatdrThis rxtraor. dinfiry woman feivtd thrt'e years in theartny of the United States, and was at' the lorm. ingof Yorktovvn under general Hamiltoni fcrving bravely and as a good foldier. Her fex was -unknown and unfufpeeled, until "Falling lit k, ifhe was fent t the hofpital, rtd' a difchur became nect f&rr. We under. jUnd ibis lady intends publiming herme. mojis, and one or tinre prations' which flic h33dchvered (n public, upon pan ioticfuf. jeAo. She )aft,year delivered an oration in the Theatre, ,zt 'defton which exceed trreat . crio!uy and did I her much cKdit. ,s A !etter,.froniJ!jordeaus,-to,5 gentleman in No r foi k; after' mem ioning-the appoint inent otGrn. Bernadoltli jninider to the United States, adds.4 It is faid that fuch is the ilateofthe French Colonies, that ncv comiTicrcial arrangemeota with the United m &te$rar e. n e c ffd ry , -a.n d jhst-thc A m eri . can commerce is Shortly to be put on a bet ter tooting. IX- Intel, MASSACHUSETTS. ELECTION. . The elfflioti forGoverrcr and Senators wrrs held in M? flathufetts on the 5th. inft. In Boston the votes for Governor were For Caleb Strong,, . - , 1864 - Elbridge C?trry, . . 881 , Fed. M.joiity 983 For L'tutenant Governor" ForFd vard H. Robbins, 1661 J.Ties Bowdoin, 193 Majorityl 568 The 3er afe is compofed of Forty mcmltrs Whe h:.ye received accounts which war rant us in faying that itie vfollo.witig mem hers, all fedr rah ft 3; arc tlccled ': ' . IaSz'i, . , . , I'orceJltr, HamplFiret Plymouth, C-jrs.bjrlanJi ; Raleigh, MONDAY, AJRIL 2), 1 80 ' 4 4 2 2 Msry .idfru counties are yet to be heard froofj ; and we hove not received any cor rect accounts of the tleclion of a finglc de IliOtlat. The Editor is obliged from home die pre. fent week, and it is quite likely the Minerva will not appear on Monday next. 3 350362 5;2 39 16 8a8,35o 50 Amount due in 1S02 4 751 103 67 The fums received by the tommiHtone8 for acCoui t of this domeil'C debt in 180. as appeared ly iheprtfent rrport were '. For account of intcet '. ' j , '' 'anr! leiinbm femcht of do- 'meftic debt . ' :' For actoiiRt t.f ihtcrelt ' W domcftic. loans d.. 4,654,699 61 -16225 00 . A mount 1 eceived by th cornraifOoMeij in iSot . . 4,816 724 61 And if this amooitt is compared -with the a-"inouii.fdcei'-ttli..ill fourd that the com . mifliMier9 hive .'received fritn. the Trcafuryy iecn obfetvrrt, dollsT PrtJJcnt Jeferfoh 1,9 Governor C l hn. Walhingtou City, Feb. 1803. Sir, In compliance wich a rcqiieft of the licufc of reprefcotativc8 t( the United States, as well as with a feiifef what is nectffary, I lake the liberty of urging orvytiU the impor tance and indifpenfibfc necefilty of vigorous exertions, on the part of the ftate govern ments, to cary into cfFttt the militia fyf tern adopted by the national Irgdlature, a grecably to the power refrrved to the (fates rtfpeclively, by the co,nflitution of the Uni ted States, and in a manner the beft c:dcu!a' ed to infure fuch a degree of military difci- plir.e1 and knowledge cf taftic?, as w ll un- Ve are concerned to mention a duel which I was fought on Sunday the 1 7 r h by two gen- t'emen ot the bar, Duqcan Cameron, Efq of Hil!iborough,.and WiPiam Duffy, Efv of Chatham. The law of this flate re'ativc to duelling being fevere, the parties went to Halifnx county, in Virginia, where they et changed a ihor the refu!t' of which was, Mr. Cameron receive J a wound in the bread arid Mr. Duffy a wound in the hip, .which we learn confined him to his bed thcufi in l a lair way now 6 f?tover. . Another duel was fought on the 14th, at Richmond, V. between two young gent'e men , ftudents at law. Mr. VVynd ha m Grymes and Mr. Terrell. There were two' difcharges of piflo's, and upon the fecond fire Mr. Grymes " eceed a ball in his groin, of which he died the next day. , We hay; received a piece ngned " An e leclor of Cumberland county," which we1 Cannot give an infertio'n, for the following rea. fons : The author has not fent us his name ; the piece we conceive, haslnfihuatiohs againll Mr. H. a candidate for congref3,which he does not merit ; the remarks upon M'Fai lare if pubHthed,: would not aflift any caufe, , nei ther would they detr?t from a character al ready very low ; and the Major (fapds not in need of ihe elector's encomiums. ' A " new bai k irillitutian has jud been formed at New Ypik, cnfiiting of a capital of-twelve hundred and fifty thoufand "dol- Lkri, in (hares of fifty doilajseach i which: were lrutantiy luuicnoea, wit.n a larpe tur plufage5 The fit ft payment of Five Dollars I on each Oiafl is.twe uhderitand. tQ.he made the 8h inft1. Every exertion is making to ealerideavpijimgJai montk ot May, wjien difcounti will be made dtr the aufpices f a benrcfn P10vidtr.ee, rendervtbe trititra a fute ardpeimanet bul. work of national defence. None but an armed nation c.i'o.difpenre with a (landing1 army. To keepoiirs arm ed and difciplined if , theref Jre, at all times important but tfpec'ally fo at a moment when rights the mod eifential to cur wel fare hive been violated, and an infraftron'of treaty committed without colour cr pretext : and although we arc willing to believe that thie has been the act of a lubordinate agei.t on!v, yet as it is wife to prepare for the DofGbili'ty, that it may hf.ve been the lead. ma mealure ot a lyttem wtntr, tncterore, as has already, been obfeivrrt, dolls. 65,62 3 able derreelof cnnrdccce.-jo obtain "by ctnii'-'mn:'hM'mi:dQi or could bi-ifP(erijy oegnclati'ot, pcactaWe e4rt&,of dai'f. NEW HAMPSHIRE. The return1? of New- Hampfhire eleclion it far as we have feen, g've the federal Gover nor Gi nun a majority of 3431 votes. CONNECTI;CiIT ELECTION. . 11 at l for April 1 3. hid Nfond'y hcirg the day appointed by law for the choice of our State Officers and- Keprcfertatives, the Freemen ciTem blcTl to the rtuinbrt -of 5'r 1, and proceeded in th: dril.place to the choice of Reprefent- . a ivt 3. On the firfl balloting the votes were as follows, viz;;: (' For Jdn CalJwt'l, frderal) 322, chofen,' : Jonathan Bull; (derro ) , 223 Mattering, 6 On balloting for fecond representative, the whole r umber of votes was 535;, of which Ephriam Rr.-t had 317 and was cho fen """" . "'" ' The vntrS for Governor "were, Fct Governor Trumbu:l, 312 Col. Kirby, 169 VIRGIMA ELECTION. , RICHMOND. DoCtnr John pams, a fedrralif waa re" eh fled th'ei.iiJrinll. to reprefent that cL ty in the next general aflrembly,. by a map rity of thlrtfen vorri.. Johm Ct-opTON Is re 'elected to Copgrefa for the Henrico diltrift, there being no op pr:fiti( n. . ' . .,.,. . "".,... ' In ihe county of Loudoun, Virginia, th; . votes frr a Reprvf:nrativc'ffl Gortgrcfs, airat. For R, 'Brent", .demo , ,170 J." Lewi?, fedrrvl, . t 517, ;..-'-",' . V ' Majority,- 347 The county of Fail far.', which, it lYrx peftcd, will give a .tc,mx)cratic tftfjority, baa ' pot been l.catd frorr,, . "T"v InErur,fw'ick Diftrirt, the cardidates areV; CciJ. ' '1 Hrmi Claiborne, ai d Dr. Richard -Field.". 1 n 1 he county of ' Mecklenburg the , -latter, we hear, obtained a'rcfjerity of up, V ---'4
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