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i. . v.. . v "SSX - ;:T HP-fan - If -i ' - 't-"' -.M A ! -an " in sena'it, S i: ; , j- Continuation of the De.br.te on the Bill to vest .v -the right of Tectin-5hfe.Iij, the Pecpleof llie t?tate-the question being.on the motion of OXvTr.. Speight to strikeutthe first section. i .1f2fr,'cf FrankTin.siid th object 'of the v mot Ion matte by the. jrmtleman.'froni Grcne,,w&s !-M destroy the bill.. He,wasawaiti-nder what , -diad vantages he laboured, In opposing so much. Vf ' s . ". He wa aware, that thevgentleroen from .Wake,, - waji.jusiiy cmuicu w great ucierenc?, iroin ins ; acknowledged talentsv MUit v?wlst.1tei.,had;the liouor. to represent county oF'Fr&riUirt; on that ilocr, he' should Feel-t his duty' to support V'- ' -;VV every m'aVuTe calcul "X " ' 'n character of the icuiaieu to auvauce me interest the slate. - - -. ch provides forth election" of t tli e xjoromuni l be, wptdil not d erogat e f rorn 1 -1 v SeavyelUY !i I frorn 0 A DarUcIe,of that dicrnitv which be- n'. j-fvr-'lnnnw'fn 1im TI, htiVArt 'that? Ctfta 'wntiA j i i) --v f: :s, bear hi m otit in the : ssertioni that this was .a they widu like to be telieved fro onsibllily acting, underl .which, they acquired TioV afl .vantapes :they i-Teaped nov molumcnt : Jint 'he rupjmirtedihi bill on principle. " On a pre S"io s'occa s ton j when the '. tvfo j ect ' was agitat el , he bad ricft hazarded the assertion that the bill u;ould, be attended .with incalculable advantages, but hef "was then, as now,' unwilling to admit, . that ahv' inconvenience would result from it'. We A 'have had ho experience on , the subject, but if ?tfe examlniB the pri nciple, as exercised in our ; : overuuien.xf biucc us nrsi esiaoii I , v sen' that t!e people have not ' i v ertnu?' hs to be jnemible of tl -t rt ft n lias itt, been lsdtht w government, 6mce its hrst establishment, it wdl fallen so far into their rights. , 1: C.: : Mh n has it been sml,.tnt we constitute the r , :- i. jr i .... . i & .'Mr Ma-1. r M ' i . : ' rnrcf e"s'ent "here 1 1y justices of the peace ? r -H"? .s H-'' ' r' No &tr. ' hut bv the hebole.- who.arp -ns rnmnp. . t 7 : - r . & i r T -1 1 tent iu elect a sheriff with limiteil iurisdiction. " ' as tolelcttsto co the luest h.ftthi9iteJ ncnSK&tio were not afraid to trust the .v'-M'rjirt" eoVefnirient W 1 hc-isunwiliinsr' to - do so? AVhen we hear it reiterated, from north , to south and. frbm' east io wesf that it is jlanperous hot to J l give: to 4bei njeoplei1 ekcluSitely the. riht of electing the h ghest officers under t her censtitu t.ioa.v jwhen our .sist er states are urging- upon us f tlie necessity "of makirg; , provisions for ca'ryih V tins cliahpfe into efTecV we nuyjb?aw some' safe ' conclusion, as to the propriety of delegating the ' .'power vto the .peoplev fWbeh our constitution i was asuopteti, mere were ssouaoojejciions raised to the aristocraticul features pf vesting too muph s power m th hands ot toe? ftarIf "our territory sljou'd be invadedi If the jbayohet of .a ruthhss ; jenrny glittered on our slioref,' on whom ve call fof succor and defence ' on th would the iusti- ces of the peace Jvo. but, on : the people, that 1-snme, people .whmust not be tniste., .because they may Fair into error - Iris said from high au-; tlloritj';, that a frequent recurrence to' fundamen lal pi inci pies', is . absolutely necessary? to pfe :f ; ierye ; the ; blessings of liberty; Belie ving th?a to be V s, ?shd impresst d with the conviction, that upon tne pnysicai.as wtu as, inurai power or tne peop le Tiiust eyer de f "eitil for the preserva tion a td continuance .of our liberties, he should nevvr be aTraidt to trust tliera with the : exercise of ny right. . . 4 To come to, the special esse under consul- s eratioh, f who are. tbey wirfi'-wh'om the sheriff has r denl f Vliere are "his daily haunts and what ;his daily avocations "with ' the justices how of teu ? four we ks jn the . year, in his . inter- ' curse : w kh the" people fofty-eiglit weeks5 Fmir weeks 'in the year, he J is the offici-.! F minister of the, court,- and 4he balance is devoted f ? to the people iA. caise JhicJi has appeared -be-' tore ns at this sessio:V3s" brought in id prove the inconsistency of giving to the people this pow - err He alluded ;to the bilf which proposes to tuke tive, appointment "of clerks of the superior' 2 court from the judges and give it t to the justi ; ces. nThc opponents of this bill contend that it ' is; ridiculous to vest this power In' the justices, ;'.-'A'nd still wish to tasTe from tlem th privilege of lectins slierttr. Ji llut Upon principle it was right, ; it was vixrij i6 Vest power in tlie hands of the tfevif, when tnerhany could be trusted. s '' ' C t ThisuDjecti had ; been so -often agitated, and VV such a variety of opinion? had been exptessed Qn V; it, that he" flattened hirnsielt the question had set ' ? stled'dbwn" to one bfmere'expediency. He was , wilJiiig it ishooldj have been decided without de-Vbate.-' w Witii his "limited experience,- he could , not erxpect to protluca cethviction on the mind of any on', and there lpr,e felt no wish to express jiis vi-si lt -Was hot .. because - he was afraid to j meet the question 'afe.hmade. the' propo . .sifion for the Committee to rise.; In conclusion 'he would sav tliat i'k one ooiild be so hardy 'as 4 'ri- to assert, the people Juve no right to call for the i f; eXefcise of tljis poweT' khey hail called, and he f' !L -ru- JVIr Eiliott Jntro Jo iredtt ; Mr. aneeti, ine petuion i jonn :;-jlenflnkndiw ifitrvrh d i voiced, f 1 6n eacli'tither&tid l IldF frSftkeWuhe tttionf John?Gib Hs')f.vDUhc Mib4ect 1 di vorcciwhicli were . ! ' . - - i . . . ; . '.c ".- -.""-.-'," ' " a . 4" Mr. Illlrofrianklin, presentcdvthe -me i iHt ii t vL'pra v i t hit t h e S ta t e w i H p h ixh a se tit t fiMjine ratcTiLt x5iu oi viuuuici rrtw (ieeK ttlid otlertnc to take tor the V : . ."' 5. 1 . ..- !1 "--V-rt. "' g ;Oh motion )flri Sljarpetheiudiaary conimitteei were instructed to eoquirp.in-, to the ifxpelincy of so amending theiMt lttta Lawsf iluit'JKield.UfBcers after serving three y eais ami iHptains five lyears? tmay A i h'aTeil ! from further serv ices- j :: - A ' promsitiou to - ballot for a Brigad ier Ceneraidofl from the House ol tmunous anq agreeu io, -K 4 Kimides Donholand jesse,BraUbliaw in ivmiinuttohrrhebailoting cOqnjtttee sub- cquentiyreporiFuwiav.wwuMvf t ! ejee t ed.:va?fow; '' v . : ; i Air; Pickett from the Judiciary xomtnit-. tee to whom was referred that part of the Goytsfnur Mess cotypeiisi tionjutt jpioseci(ugOfficers,ie ported bill to carry the suggestion of the UoVeryor Inib eiect, eutitled v?a bill to tMiint piit 3d dirjsctabijinarineH 'Prose6utiDi4JiucfirtsAaU".n2realter.oe 'MX;hif V S ; Sherwodrt, ofiCuuiberiantl county ; A W$ A I fi MDuwe jl , !t he peti tion of Samuel Jen'4 kins d. iVaricombe, prayrng to be restbred. haid.-T M "s . -. -i . ini'jd and perjury in certain cases. -r' Th6 Seriate took xip the orders of the- clay ; atitrrcso veu rsc i inro a en nm mcc vvlio! c, -ilr. rCf.l i n'; t he ,Ch&i P n the bill In amend rthei emancipation; L?iwvjf- thVStatc. rnibil prt.vides tltat.here. afie uhetTie owner, bf Vny IaVo obtains a licnce tomahumjti sucfv.lave, he shall rive bond and 'security ?n 1000 thai the slave -.shall within six months remove frrfn the State, and never again return to reside thcretn-l r ; 3Th: bill having been reatt the 3 second time Iri Speight "of f Greene; -jnoved to strike nut all thelVH but the enactingclanse, and insert a provision ?' thaffromand afr ter the pasinp: of : this act, it shall , riot be lawful to emancipate' slaves in f his State, on any pretence whatsoever.", On the ques-tion-to adopt; this amend Nenf, a Ions; de bate ensued, which resulted. however, hi' i ts rejection. ' 3VIr.' Yancy then moved to' a mend the bill by adding a new section, which provided afterbe1 emahcipated tn.thrs State, ejxeept on the express condition, that they shall leave. ! he State never more Fo return, or in casejbeyHlo return they, shall be sold by order of any County jCourt and the pro ceeds beiapplieillo i countus'esl - After some debate, this amendment was adopted, and the bill as amended, passed its second VeaV1ihg.v :i '-V' ' The debate which occurred on this sub ject, will be given in the order delivered and as soon, as our limits will admit.. Mr. Love from the Committee of Claims, reported Unfavorably to the petition of Ko be rt Gracy, a Revolutionary soldier. Con curred in; j - v'j ' .',-vV' 6 Mr. Croom presented the petition of H. Burnsf; Iienoii-, and !a bi IT founded on thatpetition, to alter the name and legiti mate Charlotte Fell. Read the first time. and subsequently - the j second and third time and ordered to be engrossed. j . 4 A proposition from the House of fjom mons, proposing to ballot immediately for a Brigadier-General of the 1 3th. brigade, and stating that the name of Wilson B. llotlgcs was in nomination. A committee was appointed to. conduct the .ballotinjj:, and they subsequently reported that the above named gvntleman! was elected . ! Mr. Rid dick presented a resolution in- structing the, Judiciar Committeeto in quire into 'the expediency of making the laws relative to Usury, more penal. Mr. Hunter presented a bill concerning Slaves employed in getting sshingles, &c. in the Dismal Swamp.- provides that the owner of each stave so employed must ob tain from the Clerk. of the County Court,' a certificate, and, if -found in the Swamp without one to be treated as runaways. 3 The orders of the day were taken up. The bill to amend t ie Emancipation Laws at its third reading, JK Scutoell hoped it would" not be taken up to-dav. It was a subject which required to be acted undrrstandingly on, and though it had ex cited considerable discussion the day before, further time for reflection was wished. Ky post poning it until to-morrow, the members miht become united in their vievvsi and-have. no dith Culty in settling the questior . The consideration of the bill, was post poned. ; . ' vt The next order, was the bill limiting the time in which prosecutions for certain of fences shall be brought, and further 'pre scribing thJe! duty of grand jurorsj at its third reading." - ' , Jlfr. Joiner;moYt& that it ba indefinitely post poned. ' 5 -;yi' ' '. 3fh Sfiav?ell)ope this motion would not prevail, if his friend from Pitt would witpdraw this motion, he w0uld substitute one in which, 'when apprised of its nature he could not but concur. They were) both in favor of t!e principle, though they might differ in the details of the' bill He took it for granted, that wh, ere offences had been j committed, and the party injured did not prosecute rwithin three year it was a certain evidence -.there was no good, ground of action, and when suits were brought alter that period, it was done from a vindictive feeling - which the legislature should not encourage, lie consider ed the. principle pf the bill an important one and if the gentleman would withdraw his motion,' or if bis Wopcisition had precedence, for he was not acqrited with all the, technicalities, of parlia mentary. usage, he wxnild raovt: that the bill lie on the table and be printed. ; , i The Speaker-said that the m tion to lie on the table, had precedence over any other motion, ex cept to adjourn.- It was accordingly stated and c'.ecidctl in the affirmative. : - ' i The bjll to prevent the miration of free persons'of color into thi stale, and for the good government of such persons resi dent in the. state, was, on motion of Mr. Hill;" postponed to Tuestlay next. ' ;The bilj'to aUbvfurther time for the pay ment of -the purchase - money on entries of vacant Iaiids,tvvas read the second and third lime and passed without debate. '' The bill- to regulate the payment' of claims agtiinst the several counties in this state, ha v i ng been -read the se cotid time, Mr. Forney,, l appeared to be general in its proviaious, andtlierefore of import ance,'' he moved that if lie. onjtlie table & be. printed, which wasagreed to. lThis bill pro vides thatfrom and after the passage thereof,' claims against the several Qolin ties, within the state, which have. been legally allowed by the clerks of 4 the superior and county courts, shall be registered Jby the ' county trustees within idays after, such claims are allowed. It further provides that all claims' against any county issued ' previous' to'ihe firstoP May,icf ball be register etf bjr ijiecouhty trusteefwith i n'5 -. days atter said first, day of - May, or be barred 4) and -no 'certificate or claitn . which shall not haves beeri paid (off before the said first of May, shall be received, from any -county trustee in the'settlement of his accounts, u nlesitthe person.' to- whom, it is due, shall ign ia receipt 6n the back. J r 1 :V r Mr. JUove moved to reconsider the; bill, passed ;thisvuiorningV concerning the ex'r teiisio'ivof , time for pay medt "oil entries of iatttii.tf " . ' ' , The Senate Jiaving agrecfd to reconsider, .!". .". I 1 - . v 1 - ' . . 1 - J the rbill was; amended and passed, its third .1. - Li r. Forney, from the committed of In ternal Imprnvemerits, tovijem, was: referr rd the .bill to establish atid : rjjulate -a Turnpike lload from the mouth of the Ttlc4 tkaseffee-Uiver' to 4; Poind estpra G-mirt the: amoKy niouufain, on me i ennesse, line, reported thesame witlin amendment which was concurred in, and the bi 1 1 ,passe d ' its - .t ' . . i:.s. i v . i seconti ana inini reauing,..-anu vvas orucrcu, to be engrossed. l , ';. ' The bi 1 1 t a u t h ori se t he wa rf I e h s of . th e Poo r o f VVVash i ngtonrM coo n ty , , ttV erc t a Poor House,- and the -bill to .pstablisha IaorVHousc,;in the county of Wayne which w6re ordered atfew davssince to lie on; the table,' were taken upr read arid or dered to be enn;fossed,l " Tlie, engrossed tbiir from the! House, of Commoh.s authorising the appointment of a. special 'Justice,of the Peace in the town of of Favetteville was on motion of M r. El - lint, taken up, read the third time passed antl onli?red to be engrossed. -r i-. ' ; , A message was received from the tou of Commons,, dijtagreeina: to ; the ' amend therit- proposed byr: the - Senate?rtotthe cn srosseth bill TequirinV the anhoiritment of an Overseer and hands to? make big S warn p 10 Ajoiumous county navtaoie irpm.j-.en non's.uno2e,to liumDer river : thereupon. Mr. Burney moved that said bill be inde finitely postponed which was carried, t? On jnotion of Mr. For'WyV the bill regu lating the payment of claim against the se veral counties in the State, ordered to li on the table yesterday, atlhis instance was taken up, and read, and aiter filling up the various blanks in the bill, lit -was ordered, on motion of Mr. McK-av, to lie on the table. . f The bill limiting the time within'twhich prosecutions for- certain offences shall be brought, ami prescribing the duty of Grand jurors 111 relation thereto, was taKen up. On motion of Mr. Stokes the phraseology ot the bill was, amended, and having been read,- -:- -t- - , Mr' Croom said, I am opposed to the bill now oerore tne senate ann reel bound to submit my vjews, because all who have opposed it. have done so on the ground of imperfections in its de tails. It is. sir. an universally acknowledged ax. iom in penal jurisprudence, that the certainty of punishment is of the very highest importance, in the prevention of crime. Indeed, to such an ex tent is this true, that it may be confidently as serted, that no man would tlehberately commit an offence if he were morally certain at the time, that punishment would folio w. The hope of es caping punishment is a most powerful agent in unshackling the restraints of human passions. .Now, sir, I would ask, if this bill does not hold out a prospect of impunity to offenders ?: Does it not propose to the turbulent, the quarrelsome and the intemperate part of the community, that they may fight, make: riots and routs and violate the laws which are made for the good order of - JL . " ' ItU. " ill ' - 1 . . sicieiy, as wien as iuey piease-wuii impunuy, if they will only contrive, by a .little management exercised by the.; witnesses or in any Otherway, to smother the prosecution for three years ? It certainly does. The offences too, on whxh it is to operate, are those of most frequent occur rence, and which most materially afTect the good order of society. No society can prosper w'itl;- out the j preservation of peace aid good order among its members ; and the ;Only mode to ac complish this is, strictly to enforce the laws made to secure the welfare of such society 1 The bill proposes to limit the time of prosecuting fo as saults Nand: batteries, riots, routs and unlawful assemblies, in a word, all misdemeanors. These are the offences which much wore than any o t hers disturb the harmony of societyoffences of a higher grade are comparatively rare. It seldom happens that there is a large .collection of our citizens, which is not attended "with few or many of these minor offences. There is mvt a court in anyjcounty of this State, whose crimi nal docket does not, at every term, exhibit pro secutions for misdemeanors. And yet we are called on bytthis bill to encourage the commissU on of these offences, by i increasing the ; chances which the culprit has of escaping. Sir; the fre quency of these1 violations of the law and their injuriousinfluenceon the repose of society, make them, to my view, a matter of more importance,! than those of. a higlier grade,-but which are not so often committed. Le .the Iw then be rigidly! enforced, and when an individual so far forgets his duty as a good.citiziji, as to. commit a breach of the peace, do not put it in his power to dis charge himself by saving that it was done more than three years ago. But, say the advocates of this bill, it is necessary to protect the innocent.! , . It sometimes happens that persons are prosecuted for off ences of so old a date, that they have forgo.ten all the exculpa tory circumstances, and been deprived too 'of their evidence by the death, removal or forget fulness ofHheir witnesses. If we examine tbis argument, powerful as at the first blush it would seem to be, it will be found to bear little weight. In our happy country, befpre a man can be pun ished for a crime,, he must f-st be proved guilty, or presumptively so, before a grand jury of his county ; heC then has , an opportunity which is seldom neglected, of employing the best coun sel, whoplaces his defence, with' every favora ble circumstance, before an intelligent jury, un der the direction of an able and impartial' Court. With all ' these advantages, his guilt must be clearly proved by the prosecuting officer before heis subjected to the sentence of the law. If the offence be of great! ahtiqnity, that facjt will have its due weight in itsfavorin every stage' of the prosecution. Now .take the .case of staie of fences, and 1 think t Is more probable hiuider these circumstances, that ninety-nine guiltvj per sons would escape - than that one innocent man would suffer and yet we are called on. by this bill to shield the innocent by encouraging crime. Sir, it would be just, as rational to my mind to repeal our penal code in toto, because it some times unfortunately happens that innocent perT sons are subjected to all 1 its penal enactments AVe hare, it is true,' statutes of limitation, 'barring the remedy for . civil rights. 1 h ive no doubt but they have, been productive of much good ' but at the same time I must aay that - it is ques tionable whether they have proved more a shield than a swordswhether dishonest men have not oftener availed themselves of their provisions to bap honest claims, than honest men have Upre vent the enforcement of dishonest demands. But, Sir; it will always be found a fallacious mode to argue from individuals to a State. .And I think I may confidently refer to what has already been said, to show that it would be so in this instance Besides, the basis of our statutes of ' limitation will fail when applied to the SUte. .They are founded on the presumption,' that unjust claims, after a great lapse of time, might .be enforced, through the cupidity and dishonesty fof individu als! But it needs no argument to prove that this presumption will not apply to , the State. 11 isxne interest ana poucy 01 xqc aiaxe noi to ' Another argument adduced y the. friends pf theTbill is, that it will relieve the consciences ot He's' will reflect on their duti'oa; as .'designated: in uraa jurora. ix seems tome, toat it urana ju ries will reflect on their duties, as designated; in ur J udirej will tell them, that no oiience .13 b r " ed b y tirne, which ha? seen committe'd since ' 3StabHshdeut of cur independence; i Tlieic c-..i uuigenuy to enqTure impales ine dou tir . .ion of an enquiry no farther than is consistent with their being in their room, and under , the su perintendence, ;of . the,, Court. l ney can, with safety io their conscience,. sit in their. room and discharge all their duties. . , Whatever is of their, dvrfi k nowledge.'they caneasily:present, -whe ther It happened one or twenty .years- ago, . and arid whateve&they can learnfrpm the Knojvledge of others, is "easily ;done by 'sending for them. untess 1 ney. are pansneu wito itne cviaence, iney are not boundfo 'present; sV")''.: " Where then is this difficulty with Grand 'Jurjei which they4 'do;ndt make therhseives.ilt is an. unpleasant pffice lknow, but its duties are borne bv tlie large mass of 4 the citizens, land I cannot but belieye,'that as , we di.mu ish its burdens jlwe shall detract from its value. l trusty sir, I have shewn that the reasons offered by the; advocates or mis "measure, win, nor juiiiy us in passing-a law, whose on 'V consequence will be to multiply those bfTVnces which chiefly disrurb the tranqui lity and good order of society. " -t.- t ; f,y omry was in layor pi xne principle,- our was not satisfied with the details of the bill, t To obviate all difficulty, bv iriviner time to make.a- mendmets, he would move, for, the present that, n.ijeon ine.taoie.j p-v '" 1 !Mr. Speight': of Greene hoped this : motion would riot prevail. Almost every bill after hav mg: ucwi reau uie secona ana.inira nme, was.. or? dered to lie on the table to give time- for further reflection. - No doubt every member was prepar ed to vote on this bill, an I if any amendments arei to be bilered why nofsubmit tbem now? The session was far advanced, and it. was time our attention was fixed upon some period for termi nating its labours. . " - ' i ? ; : r M r Fo rh ey T m th d re w h i s m o t ion : ' to I ay on the table, and moved that it be re-committed to the Judiciiiry Committee, which was carried. - - : 1 'dX.J-- JMr. -Tyson, from the balloting Commit tee for Brig.. General of, the 13th brigade, reported that Wilson B. Hodges j was duly elected. " -.. t -V 1 -W v, ; y ; ' . Mr. Spaigbt of Craven presented a bill further to atnen.d the act making the pro test of a Notary Public evidence in cer tain 'ases. . 1 - . ' ' ; Mf. Seawell introduced a bill to locate the several Judges of the 'Circuit Courts in this S'ate. Provides that Judt;e Dan iel shall ride the first Circuit, Judge Don-, nell the stcond, Judge Ruffin the third, Judge Norwood the fourth,: Judge iSf range the fifth, and Judse Martin the sixth. Provides further that in any case whic h comes on for trial, Where, the presiding t - . - '. 0 judge n as oeen con cerneu as attorn ey, the cause may be removed. T . ' 1 In introducing this bill,1 Mr. Seawell made a.fetv prefatory remarks on the pro priety of the-measure;; but Ms" no doubt the bill itself wili-be discussetl on ts pas- sage, it i.-ilho't unnecessary to giv.them. HOUSE OF COMMONS. v . JFejnesdayJait. -10- 0 Debate on the bill for altering Jhe time of the future meetings of the General As '. sembly. ' ' " ' - f ' The House having, oa motion' of Mr. Wyche, resolved itself iritoj a committee of 1 he whole, Mr, Donohoin , the Chair : the bill was read . It provided that the As sembly should in future, commence 00 the 2d Monday in November , i f..' v Mr. Wyclic '.felt conscious of his inability at this time, owing to indisposition, to do justice to this bill ; but would attempt to make a few re marks in favor of its passage Hi; considered the subject important) to, the public, -and e"spe- lally to the farming interest, i The Assemblyi for many years, it is wll known,'bad met on the 3d Monday of November annually but'wt the' last session an act was I passed fixing our present meeting on the last , Monday in December, and in succeeding years Vh the 2 1 Mondaylin Janu ary. Should this act remain in force it., will have a tendency to exclude. farmers frora; thej Legisla ture, and it will be the, means of extending the sessions to an unreasonable .length. , - Formerly the General Assembly always rose about Christ mas ; but now'there will bfe nothing to limit their sessions. " , . - . . -. It was said in argument, when the jbill went to thange the, time of the meeting of the l.egisfa ture,Ahat the changq would be greatly in favor of the. farmincr . interest ; --. but hej thoiicht very differeptly. The principal part of a 'ar. roer s crop 13 made, and secured before the 2d Monday m November ; and the Cotton Planter can leave what remains ungathered to be finish ed in his'absence. : I I " AVith thesfe few remarks, he would submit the question, leaving himself' at liberty to add others it necesstry, hereafter. - . Mr. Bain moved to amend the bill by striking out the 2d Monday in November and inserting the 2d Monday in Deceinber. Mr. Wyche hoped the proposed amendment would not be agreed to. One of his principal reasons for wishing, the time; changed, was that the; sessions might not extend beyond Christmas. If the session commenced at the time nrooosed by tms amendment, tue same oojec ... . . ion to long sessions would still exist. .1 Jlir. Cooper hoped ; the proposed amendment would not be agreed to. . We have taa long ex- perience in the old plan , of meeting in Novem- uer, au ue uopcu ine ume wouia oe cnane-ei back to near the old time. - It was f ound to an swer pretty well to the farmers', as well as other classes. The time of msetihg at present is found very inconvenient. , Members canrtot boartl at thesame rate as heretofore He believed three- fourths of the people 'would be satisfied with the time of meeting proposed by 'this bill as it how stands. , ' " -,:;..f -,-. '. ' ?'.; sh1 4"--?v: Mr. Stanly (the .SpeakerY observed, that the bill before the committee differed from those we were generally called to consider. This bill does not concern the people whose interests are confided to our care, so much as it. does the in terests and convenience Of -Members of Assem bly. The bill proposes to alter the time of the meeting of the Legislature ; it is of little Conse quence to our constituents when our ' session COmmlf." whpther in Nnmhpr. nprcnnhpf or January; a much more important enquiry with P" rh is, hour long will it continue znd vhenthall rminatc Whoever," said Mr. S. has cast his over theTreasurers report, & discovers what is, he cost of an annual session of the"L,egisla ture, and then examines the pumpJet which con tains the dozen public acts and the much greater number of private bills, which are the fruits of our labours for a session, will be mortified at the dico very that ' half the public tax on nroDertv (except the, tax on lUnk Stock) the tai on lands iown 1013, siaves ana polls, is consumed in pro ducing these few, and frequently useless acts of legislation. - Of the direct tuxes of sixty thou sand dolUys thirty-diree thousand dollars are ex pended in one. of, our annual sessions 1 When, it shall be attempted to remedy this eviL bv the only certain mode, of doing, so, byvexcluding J??ch of the. 'unimpQitajitbuainess, which coi sliall we meet ? ( The act of last commencement, rafter "thj" v. JVlanday m Jbavafy.; The kill propises the time tot the tpmnrt. fi,, ... . .r?, the community; whom we iepresent, hani the gxe-:srwpart: areagricalttiralists. WV mers own the property of the state, they l , taxes, thev fnrm ifi A pa"1 uie virtue, ana atnll share of theim Vi gence, as well as the wealth of. the state ft?'! body constitutes the strength, with .pronJ; called th KaM kr, ru'i.." enquiry should tlierefore be, what time cf mg of the Assembly, will best suit the ccnvJ' ence of .the farmers who are elected bv1 fa, - - v. :n to represent them in this bodyT. Mr. g.1 hat to Answer this question -correct.lv: hJ examined how "tlie time, nronosed vmuiA 'laK bot only his neighbors but himself also, Jcr, S4S he, f too am Cfufmer V rid he had come to th conclusion that thes time how fixed for the tnel ,thfe second Monday -in January woul 1 mit the fatmeifto lea Ve home ' with less, income nience than any other.' : The creat stanlea nfu! tatef areTobacco; Cotton, Indiah'Corh & VnrV X v" f cc Jic.uau jnneKnowieage, out he un. derstobd it waa considered a race between the to, bacco planter &the frot: and the planter was fortunate- if his tobacco was not cut St housed 'uL fore, tliecoming-offi-ost? that article, therefor-, out of the field, and either bured or curing-, fcfore the second .Monday , in; ;januarvi--Cbw ... made and fit tcr gather by; November, $s except on larcre farms,' would be nicked out and rn-Wi- uiiuei, ueiore me miciaie 01 January.-Lfyrnh thered before Christmas, and where watet co. veyancecan oe used, frequently is at market be fore the" middle of Januarvvand bv Christmal ... Pork is put up. Meeting; .ii January, the To bacco, Corn and Porkj wouM be out of the way, and theCpttpiv if not,, quite.v nearly soJ ut meeting in iVorefl5-r, not tine of these valnable articles; would be in a state to admit the Vovvnei- to leave them, without leaving to cther3 to save what he has made. '--' r .'! ' . - :,..'"- ju itU, o- -mere i$iiuouiGr niieresr not as , prominent as that of the farmers,: but ters imen: miliar with jurisprudence.'anJ v their Knowledge of existinar laws ' onal fiJ I judge of, ihe necessity ofi proposed 'new- ojics - 1 prompc roaetect errors in fornu to nok!ol ,n. t foreseen consequences, and al wavs vin-ilmf- tn v "fi""1 w tu .miiu principles steaai9(t These gentlemen, said Mr. S. are occupied du ring tne entire months of, September ami Ocio- De.r, an two weeK,s m November, unon the Su perior Court Circuits. 'Should the Legislature: meet as the bill proposes on the second Mondav in November,5 you! require the lawyer who haV thus toiled. tor two months a the close of his circuit, without bestowing: otie week Jiis own affairs, and probably with th- sacrifice of sofno Courts, and without a moment of reflection to prepare for the subjects to engage hi3 attentioh ia1 the Legislature ; . to continue his journey direct ly totfiis place. These are .disadvantages whicii uugiu ngi uniitfcessaruy io De cast upon thenv they may,' and they ought toe avoided i ) ' Ihv addition to these ereneral reasons for ore- ferrin the time fixed fcw-4 the, meeting , by the act ot last session tne secona .Monday in J;inu- ary; tnere were consiaerations ot an interest iug, though of a local nature;; which pressed up on him; in favor of the meeting ia January. ' It i xnown tnat the eastern .-part of. the state is e nerallyi sickly n th fall season; in many parts at , that season of distress; the water is nearlv'DOj- auu, aiiu me air pesuienuc.i rrom me. preva lence of disease, our' Courts .held at that season, can,do but little if any business, from the an--senceof parties, witnesses or connsel, and not seldom of ike Judgej and may shitors know af the term, having passed only by 'the tliarges in curred by the Vitnesses, whoJ many -have attend " ed. - It is' hoped ' that some part of thtse evih ' may b avidedjandrthe benefit qf the Courts .' be obtained, by changing the .time of holding; them to a later period of the fail. ; For this pur pose a large-committee; f both houses now have tlte subject under consideration; and it is hoped the Courts will be put one jponth later in me season. Slioiild this be done, the: Courts would f lu i7 icoemtcj, liieiuoera iroiii.xuat part Ot true state would be able ' io neetlih a state of -heahh r; to attend to business. There are ; fe w Members of the House ' who are - not cunperned in Court, either ; rtiesin their own right; br " as executor 'or 'administrator, or guardian, or ai witnesses. Should the 'Assembly meet on the second Monday in ovembefmavy woul.i in alt probabi lity be disappointed, either in taki; their s-. at3 here,,or In attending to their, business iather Courts, sinfestkcAssembly and-the Gdurts would uc siiuiiK ai .uie same lime. s-j And tne annrp- " ' i ll-v,i y ciiicnces xjij inese uisap . pointinents, ' consequent 'on '.the, interference or the Courts And the Assembly h'e feared would raise objections against the proposed alteration, of the Eastern Courts, should the meeting bf the-. Legislature take place in November as proposed, ' arid defrat that important object. x ) 1 1 : - ! , vjMig said- he- regrettedittie iiidispositiort'ot the gentleman who introduced this bilk (Doctor Wyche of Halifax) had, as the gentleman stated, -'" prevented his doing justice to his wishes iri sup port of the, bill, and be; should, more regret if. any observation of his should by requiring !a re ply, increase the inconvetiience already felt by that gentleman., Gentlemen of the profession of medicine were hot o numerous lis this jjo'dv'ji to require. a particular examination of the efieci of.the measure. proposed upoiv their iaterests.Hf He was glad to see tbem among us, they. brought i strength ai well as ornament to our prjceeduigsj but;a disasi'S; exist at all inies, our' clfddreiju cut teeth ahd their mothers complain in all sea sons, ne lioped the profession would not be: in jured by being called to attend the Assembly inj change 111 the eastern fall circuits ; ' belic'in , that the agricultural ahd other important inte rfcsts ivould be consul te I by sufferirig the ppe sent law' to I remain i .fbrce,S.he"'should yofe a J gainst-the hill and the amendment proposed, K i " ' 'On motion, the .committee .rose and reportea ! progress,- and obtained leave to sit again. 1 Thursday, 5 Jan. .1 1. . , Mr. Edmontoa' presented . the : pet itioa of James Stephenson of iiaywoud, stating a grievance that lie vhad uslained in the purchase of ji tract of Cherokee land, 'ami prayibg for. redrew mhtee on Cherokee fantl 3 v-i v VjOnvmotipn of, a iUlemanvyho voted veaterdajr r kgaiii9t , accepting thcredgni tion Of ftoberl Strange, as a mem tier of th e House, 4he"caestion was reconsidered, anjl the repignaUoQfWas acc ofvelctioaaS -.urjjefdr iThe elect; to take place ( patJTudWy nb Y - f Mr Al ford presented a bill to exempt sabajternL oflcers jn theftoilitiifroji lui nishiiig themselTes -with unibinus, bica was rejected on its first reading 5 and Mr; Clair a bill to Regulate, the fec$ of the Attorney, and iSu-Iicitur General ami Solicitors, which pussed: its firt read itij v' moiion.ot iVJC iiatem in, a mess was sent io the Senate propo Uirt ,v woitny o; beinjr consider ed'in deciding this qaes Hon jt He meant that of the'lawyers, who alttiys. form a portion of the Legislature, respectable for their numbers, ther talents and their Icharar. jiuiuAijr, iiimcou 01 loyemDera propoijea oy tivs . gentlemajj j:;::i.V,F:,;r;4--; ?;V Iii the' fear, said Mr. S. that the? passing ' jtha bill before us ; would interfere with the desired was sent to the Senate,- propoi;ig o !' 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