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f I- 1: c Pc 1 - V . i 1 - . 4uit. - 4' - .... ' 1 C'': '- ; v' J r .J' 4. Ir J i it! .c:J Mi Kt P 11 f i Ir. z:. .Ills V.'.ric- : c'. a cohirr.r.s in a Lc - ,V car.nct, tV'ref re, rive it .t : ! :r"h : but thinking it wr ild Lf ratifyin to cv.r rt irio to"r;e nrri'T -r.t cf it, . hi;h 'icald center its u.crt m;' rLl parts, we pre ,:r; tl:er.T with t! 2 fcov,", : ' Pzru sft:r r:...ie preliminary re- trc :r in v.nic.i rs Minister or the ..i r.r.J .::taincd by the' authority I,. 1 online:' to that character he wished 'to vindicate the ;: ! vice i.n tb his ijesty by an 'uni ted Cbint," and Ja suba.it the!ymeasures v.h:c .vcrc proposed, to' be carried intoref- feet for the v,jutmeTit of the Roman Cam ol i c Qu c stion tha t q u est ion vidiich hai so lcn a 1 1 d s p a i n f u 11 y f o cc u p 1 e dt h e a 1 1 e n tit.j of parliament, and which ha distracted the councils of the King foe the last 30 j e .? r:. I approach", thU subject almost v c r v; ! j : 1 m e d by th c ma gn i tuti c o f ' t he i n ?" tcr. -tL it' involves, and by ' the difficulties with which if is S'Jrrc'nded. Of .these dif ficulties I atn.u r con cious of the- extent; I !;now tnyare gret and nianvVrnd they zrt '..Increased by ths '.peculiar situation of him ci who. a the lot has been cast toTnro- posc this iheasure. and explain thsexpe riiency orita adttoo;n;? But Sir, through verein,- ana ray countrr, According: to r i.jy heart and conscience; Sir, :I -believe ' th-t the time is come vhen less danirer is to be apprehended to' the general, interests I ui uic cm jure, ariu io, ine spiritual auu tqnr- poral 4 wcl Fare ofrthe Protestant establish ment," in attempting to adjust the Gatholic question, than' in allowing.it. to remain any , lenger in its present state;; r l;jhave- been K called upon to give the reasons Which have' f.wayed ine-in the adoption of the course I now advocate, & which is in opposition 'to. that I Jiave n long npheldw - And foKthe satisfaction of those who hare made this ap peal to oieIhuuIdniJtsay for '-their sat , "isfaciiopj bat . from: a desire to attempt . bringing conviction to their minds in favor oi rny view; oi tnose points on which f- dider, and, for the satisfaction of the ireo : pie of 4hts :countryrt wi),. endeavor;, to . Tirjlce, riot,' the case Lhave been cjvlenged r lo make out." ,1 amvell ayrSit'9 Tfcel tit a; I speak : in, the.presencjiif a'Houeof Commons, the tnejrhy:jwhtch--rare.;pfe-pared to vote in favorran'adjustii.ent of y; this question; 1 feef that ! address a nia , - joiity. of those wli have" foryears argued : in favfr of a seieinent of the question up r . b n l-h ighe fypa nda"4han those? w h j c h ; I would ptaS'upon the attentive consiilera-' - ,tion of jothfs who advocate a contrary o : i pinltd r 1 It is wholly unnecessary fa' rnc to . N..adXress any r arguments to those 'wlroare t;uireauv convinceu foi-iue auvaiiuces oi a neti lenent" of thoSeCcIainisV as; the only means of avert iric from ns the embarrass- iHpnis anu evus uy wnicn we are surroun ded. 15ut I trust that in what I shall think it necessary" to;say.r-Jess -witbj jhV. personal object rof self-vindication thaq vvith a view to attempt to satisfy the great body of the paople of:this- empireV be their opinion of the question " what lit may, that more evil ' r. 1 1 inrse personal fiiuicuines, nowever gal J..;t.:vli.i: t ) ( ray I feelings'and' afflicting, to j my f "'.. heart, tarn supported by he consciousness - - tthat hMe'dofe roy duty towards my So ;v VV-' -'haa ad vantage' would :reutt-from' Reaving V i itin ifa -.present state, I hope' that those - ;Svho require' no argument to convince thein y l of .this tact, will bear with "me; while;! go "t , :,through. the .details of an argument which . -,' potsesseVafl (he force of demonstration. - , V 1 '' ... I h a ve for yea rs - attempted to main ai nth e f: X : 'exclusion of Romao Catliolics' from politi- capdwer,Jn Ireland. vI do not think it was ' 4 unnatural 1 Or unreasonable': struggle, i' - .have desisted from it'jn consequence of -"",V the conviction'-that, it could be no longer -.V advantageously maintained, f -and from find-- ; iug tnai.i.was noi.iurniMieu-ivnn aoequaie inaterialspr sufficient insfrunients.-Others "rfteem disposed to-push certain principles to . ' an extent, that, would so endange the ve- - , 't ry 'establishment' thev a y "Tend.; , HiaMijesiy"Go rAiJ ,;'vieid to UhemYui a zealo are;anxius. to de- vernment Ioe not T ' ft ' " r V 'A ous desire-to nre- - y ;i -sere,the Constitution .and-support that es. . : ; A tabiishmenC Tt therefore,' rests to explain V ... . toe jappareni conirauicuon pei ween inis as sertion a nd the' nieasu re we ha ve ad vised MrP. then went jnto a- statement m Tacts to proTe.rthe' danger that; would - be ;T'V run by; th e Governtnen t from a con ti nued , -resist'arice.orthe claims of jlie Catholics , ' for a' red res, oft heir grieva itceJ JI e sa id the condition of thvvouiltry was such that gomtfthin'niust be ;dqtie. H is first ; posi tion ?as, .that there is aCevii7 in divided s Cabinets and;d; tracted, Councils yhich ; vcannot be JoVger - tolerated. This being' 4 v conceded and tint a- united ! Government ;r-Tnusrbe )formiedinithoneit placed, that -J Government-mus't choose one xf; two coar- w-' - ees msj musi auvancev-or-iney oiust ; V Precede ; they mutgrant'further political V"! privileges- to the Rotoan CathV'Mcs, or they - .mustretract those aTreadygivcn to them.: 1 am-ioiu, jt is uoi-now?ine nrsi ume the ! t w b H u u lies 'of Pa r I ia men t ha ve . d i fie red , a'd tliat therefore matters remain un ichauged f?and that accordiniyIthe Same system shbujd he pGrsuediBut are events ' exactly the same v Do not ;theC 'same ie iventst: frequently coming, to pass, bring about other, events ?Jf-,the two Houses of Parliament hai'e been , divided' iBgaiiisL : cao i i o in e i: . i yr ,.we i a& t u? e y ea rs, i s i h a t a , reason' they are to be divided; in like man ner, for ten y-arbr foVeverr - So far as 01 y uv;i tuubc HU iiiiuj -question' 18' con the H ctne.Deparlnicnt, und fuund -myself 'in ti xnlnority ; of, this litiuseupon tbe di vUmn . on ;this aestibb: When I Uben mDcrarraTcd"'ai;anst- ir.3.- in t'as.nouse I felt that, at Icr, my rc:itiob w . mi 1a ; cr:, : wiisv n OICnaDiC. I I i '-' rmAr' , cerned, it is the same with' that ?-which 1 buggestfd itself to my raind. in -1835 when I was his Majesty's Principal iflhisrr fnr fc. f, . . W ft -j rli i::: -ri i to 4 W, 1 , ft ft i . - v.- . to r of r " V ti- :'. of t! A' itr;i,th-.t it waJ mj-:: "- Lj iclicvwd from oCce. -t or riotineu to ,me tna; n; rs- U v;ould occasion the vTetirement Earl of Liverpool ,rar. I that' such ccnt would. of course, at once produce s d i ssol u Hon -of .the a d m i n i ; t ration"; t he 1 re s po nsl bi I i t y of w h f ch ; ou I d re s t wi t h . me I he! l r hand.'If I had acted" simply in c' ?'"iencc.":.to.myown-Jshesfias-ianin-divi Ai I should have resrgriedA "I .was intl u ced ho weverf to retain any office, a nd, in a k e a n o t he r e x peri in e n t u pon t h ef fee 1 i ngs of theScouhtry, tv I. have stated the motives wLJi induce"dme.;;. In 1826 there;wa;a new Parliament, and in J827a ,mdljority i ri t h i s Hbo se'o ft. i w en t y -1 h reel aga ins t v the Caih'o1ie "qfettohv' In -1 828y however;, the; H tuse" took ..Vdifferent ':vieV; bfZthe mattervandftlibiigh:itvdid it agreed to!a;resolutionfavorable . toj the principle of adjustment Tliat- resolution being passed, 1 felt satisfied that the sense. was' the debisioh'of a new House. h t then d eter mi n ed i h at "n ot hi ng sho u I d i h d u ce m e. to rem a i n 1 o hge r. jfn o ffi c e t b" obst rue 1 1 thj is measure. In the las'year "for - the .first ti m e f i n ;t his Parliament, d isu nion between the two Houses was revived; I then saw. hereiwasbnlyronexpurse and that wa$ a most painful one-i Vwas painful to act; in . opposition to pre-ebcrceiy ed Impressions, anfl--iieesteeffledfrtenilst and in short to hold a course inconsistent with Jtha t ' v hi ch -I o n ce fet t and ad vocated. The eVentstof last-year pressed 11 u ptfh I we wiin inat run lorce r wocn oeionea ionicn importance tnd 1 was determtnoo;"toac-i rifice all private : feeling forOie 'public weali I wasdetermined -but it was no ea- task.'x To use the b'eatftifuD words of ryden - -i- Ti said witlr ease, Irut oil ;how birdly tried By haughty soulsohuman humor tied": . Oh 1 deep convulsive pangs of agonising "pride." Whep-vfelt last yeari that the case was aa.Itave stated it to be,ul -determined: to tkef the course Vhich I wished to take in n 82S : but with thisldiflTerence, sthat I in- timatedtoiherNpble inke f at the head ot hi vMajestys Government,- not only that 1 was anxious ; to re 1 1 re I ronv iOtli c e, . bu t th at I fe 1 1 so s t rbngty tTie ? cu rren t ;of; pu b IPc opinion was setting iu'favor of the Ca tholic Claims, tflfat in whatsoever, situation fin igh t fi nd ray se I fi I shou 1 d 5 no t con sid er myself justifiediu making any further on position to those claims ; adding, that what ever private and personal sacrifice it might inflict upon mev-1 was prepared after the events of the lastlyear, to submiltb it,in the support of any measure which-I might consider compatible- with the safety bf lhe Pro t es t a t , Bs tabl i hh in e n t . I d eta i I ed on a former occasion, that a dreadful commo tion had distracted the public mind in Ire-ta'nd-that a . feverish agitation and unna tural 'exciteioent; prevailed," to a degree scarcely 'credible, ; throughout the i entire country. I attempted to show that the so cial intercourse was poisoned there, in its very aprings--that 4 family f was divided a gainst family, and man against his neigh- bor that, . in a word, .the , boods of social: life were altogether dissevered that the; fountains of public justice were corrupted that the spirit of discord walk ed openly abroad-and that anarray bf physical force was .marshalled against - the 1 a w a n d " to f th q r i m m i n e n t d a nge r of th e public peace. But, perhaps I shall be told) as I was on a former occasion, in forcible though (amiliar language,' that " this, is the old story! that all this has been so for the last twenty years,r.and therefore there is no reason for, a change." To' this I reply, sir:,there-is reason for a change1 and the reason nv berause it is the olil story. 1' It is, becausethis state of things has so long existed and we have been so long unable to find a, remedy. It is forthis,: kiri' that tam, tired of mnintining the present sys tem.; i It islobvicius it cannot exist; ; it must be changed.t 1 Wc: cannot determine upon remaining idle spectators of ; the sufferings o f I re fa nd.f The, universal cry of th e coun try declares that.somethmg must be done. So m e b f m y : H o n . i Fri e n d s ma y com e t o a n oprH)siite conclusion,;bu t I know 1 am only echptngthe sentiments, of all reasonable men, w he n .f I say th a t ;som e thi ng fm us t be donp4 I. ask you to examine the state of his f ajesty's Governpient for the last thirf ty - fi v e years p atid to mark' the bearing o f the Catholic Question uppri 'the i VGbvern-:' ment-the divisions it hay created among the;Sttesraen-tHe distraction ;it has pc-, casioned'in our Councils, and the weakness it has consequently produced. .J" 1 t - Mr.P. called on gentlemen to reflect on the disunion that had prevailed in the Ad ministration on Irish' affairs for the last 35 years; and then sa f whether' the course now proposed is not-the only 'one, that will do any good.' Mr. P. then took a brief histoi. ryC the Catholic question from1 Mr.Pitt's Administration to the present timeshew ing that the Cabinet had alwavs been much divided on this .subject, and" that Parlia ment l also been Th- consequence has leen that I,ffi..V Mi: ui c ame siiuaiion. hv arisen between .honorable men, abd t.-t the public mindin Ireland had been probed until a dangerous and exaggerated sensitireness .has been created in it with respect to all passing event. - -V ,tfi respect to the present House of Commons, is it anmnfalr representation bf the puLIic opinion upon this great question? AVas it not elected :at-a ,period when the public . inind: was;sufficiently :iUve Wthe tatholicquestion Was itTiiot sufTiciebt ly acquainted with the efforts made to pass Catholic Relief ,BUIs through Parliament, and with the tate ot Ireland ? : JSir, this riouvo ,yp8. elected '.after the direction the r-'-'is .ttcntbn.iUd ban gi0:to the s Gil A w -3.. the ti if !.:rcd i t : z I f th; cir, o.'.'dc: us the : tcriab fcr a nt Cut, hain A th u u nor. too turd not carrying a hard thin? p. c::::iw. to pass by,: it i. that ' ; ':ould bft blamed Lr or a w . I resistar. :.' , it l to r:;ll unon ;the responsible ministers of the Croxrn to carry on rcsistance,Hvithout fu rnishl ng j us wi th 4 hose ) hstru m en ts . by which at o ri e? th'eba tt leca n be fbugh t..For, sir, I akyout-when'we are told pf; the feel i pg of the cobntry , against the Catholic: b uestioni to ; I od k; to the retu rnsi If any discontent pervades theebplet':it ,is but of a short date. ; tns a recenpciisqueipui?---. Yffreat cKeeri n sU-aod iV. aay.v sif,V, ttolight to. have been'Shbwn,nht by pubtic'meet- I ogs,v ou r, ny i n e p u u 1 1 c i "i -1 u & lective franchiser If is, bot 'fair to throw upW. Ministers the, whole responsibility of resigning a long cuiiuiiuKu.rcivamrc that resistaliice-was paralysed by ,the way in. which the people had bxercised the elec? tiyefranchise-'j-'VCv. 7 T. :) ?. Mrr P then referred to the members re turnedrfo'the present Parliament, shewing, that in manVof the counties they were c e qually" divided "brrthe Catholic questioo. and in a greater f number :ot counties anu town there "wis aV maioritV in 'favor of granting relief-j ,yf: 'Skyi.: : -These thi ngs then, I say " prove to me, that' the voice of i the ; people was not : dei f- beratelv bronounced azainstlhe considera tion of .this great question, at that period w nen t ir in ignr;na ve; oe en ?prpnou nceu ,wi iu ha'velbu'iht the battle i'gainst makingrfur- charse them' with want of zeal, because they consider it would be useless to' consi- der the struggle Mnger : ; liinainrain, tinai when theoure-of theuestii.n is looked at, during the period which ri have named, i tia'not fair to. .throwu jjbnTme . al I : the (res- bonsibilit V for niakin i it 'what . it vhas be come." ' Wdh respect 1 to the r inferences which may be drawn as to the state of pub lie opinion, from the debates in this House,' I snouhi iiKe 10 Kuoy, 10 wnau conclusion any manlinust come who has watched the progress of our discussions. .Vhpr I would ask, are they whbhave taken the most pro-. mihent"3art r in them ? " On -whom has the brunt of the battle fdien ?s Sir, I hold in my hand a list of the speakers in the 1 seve ral debates which have taken place on ; this subject. t: It would'be invidious to go into details,; and I am the : iast man who would vish to do so, as many. of my Hon. Friends who feel the utmost zeal in the cause, have bee n, b y var i ou s ci rcu m s tances,; prec 1 u d ed frpnV, taking a part in debate." fit might; therefore, be unfair to draw any inference from that to whidh I have atluded. ; I will not assame any deficiency of zeal from the paucity of numbers 2 but I'doahink it hard that an individual, after fighting the battle for ten years, should be accused, as Ijhave been, by those who, ; durjng-that long pe riod have witnessed the struggle without once openingtheir mouths in -jsupport of that causefor' which" they :now manifest s6chT extraordinary anxiety.' ; 1 Now7 sir, having described to the House what has been the state of the Government, and what the situation of the two Houses of Parliament,, during the last' fiveand tnirty years,riI-corae next to the consider ation of a subject not less important what has been the state of Ireland during that period?. ; ; ;; ,;-f!,y: v;Mr. P. then. took; a view of all the dif ficulties and disturbances that have taken, place in Ireland ' for the last twenty-five years.- After which c he added, cou pie this with the -differences . which - .hare existed between the two Houses of L Parliament ; on this( question,: and vwith the divided state of the bovernment, and then, I will ask, is not the position which I ad vanced at" the" outset perfectly mailed good, namely, that thii state ot things can not continue that some enort! must be made to enable- Parliament ana the i 60 vernment to unite with one common feel ing in the; administration of . the affairs of Ireland I , nor sir, approach ;the consi (lefation of the' important question, what that course ought to be'.r , . t,. .J- v v; ; , a. Mr. P here btobk a View of the different projectsentenaioed on this subject,; and shewed in. forcible Uerms,;,thkt nothing short of a relaxation of the laws at present in existence would, be.of any avail. It api pears that the population 01 Ireland ises timated at seven! millions,, and ;that- five millions are Catholics and but two millions Protestants. j Andjthee arelvery unequal ly divided in different parts of the country In the;Coii nties. orA otrim antf Down' there are ' few Catholics ; but ,in the, county of Clare, there are ten contiuous parishes in which there is not ;a single Protestant.w Mn 'P.also observed that tie was well knovyh many of te influential Protestants were in --favor of takihg.'otj thelpresent" re? straints front the Catholics ; . For these reasons,:" said Mr. P I' have 1 .t. ... .l. i-r..-: . ' r ,- -t "U',U' enueavor iorsatisiy the people, of , ErtglantWhatv the 'time-is come when those claims must be settled ; to ; prove to; them j that; we" cannot remain as wc are, - and that of the two alternatives bflferedto us, : the" safer choice "will be to attem'ptt.an adj ustment. ?J Under the influ :ence of sucb feelings Inow approach thV mostjmportant part of the subject, namely, the propositions which his Majesty has au thorized his idnisters. tcay before' yotf for remedying the-eyiU under Which Ireland at presen t ; laborsl "and for layl ng the. fou nd a- l tipn of a better ystem:of ad minist ration in vijau ouniry i'irr vne iiraeto come; i'in coming to this part of the subject,' rl will not attempt to di iie th difHcultres.by' whicliitls surrbcnJcd. Vitnr'thfmit 1 the prevalentrbninio t'hrt the r2ttreciea'r mat e fleet. "x I therefofecbnclude. that it rtino "'nt "vit. R thi fioiir b it not so. I do !sav;J that it; is hard "upon those who mer: concessions io; ,uie. vaiuoiics . pr u last ten;years, With Houses so nearlyjdivi d et iHwi t k f orces ? so nearlv equalt now; to p; at; that tcr. 4. J 4 net .. it: mair t..t r . - . - . t . . . U As a njlitical 4! is to I:? decided on". ;,il, I will, n constitutional frrour.ds.Jb'jt 11 rroutivU poUtieaJ-expsdie-cy. And, with the vicv of "avoiding the .evils;, which-"' must i -salt from its non-adiustment, I would ;asl; tose vh o s a y this' Ji dj ustme n t m u s t hz u nfa vera- ble lo therrotesranr? reiigto: vvnzy & effects have resuttedfr a ve are;Haa.the"existin2:istate of thinss.cbn- tributed to the 'propagation orincrcase of PrbteStantisni rJ HaV it not on the contra ryj retarded 4 ts growi n,?fluu , mui; removal f'civilxlisabi(itteS; frpni ithe; Uo man Catholics aveikis-gopdiffect;.that it wili incline Mbi.ljstefl kind n ess to a h y li sc u ssibb ju pon -thbl'sUCP leci'v? Afti'rtnest ?.'the higher ra nks of Roman UatMiMlcS'many are iuuucwwuu, u iuy .byireligious'eeliog-Batall to their creed bjensbf fea r of d egradalidn by ai deplif tb rev Irptn i rr Is 'it bot; therefore? that ib v the removal bC'atliblic disabilities t ti m Pmt pst an t'i re I12 10 n "W ill xhavefairer chance Itn the propositi on sw hh hwii! be my d uty ' to Jsu)mi : t tp; hbuseI can safelyiay, ;that bbman hQe hejniay bb devoid to thebecuntyb aht Church, and the rWeseryanoi(&-jmea(i. of tlie Protestant religion.(tb whicB nolhan . - - - ' ll .ic yl fl.;j ts more aevoiea ina"u pcu, vftu uuu oul thing in these propositions wmcn can, jn ne remotest degree, interfere with the safety " - j f - ft. a -a - M and integri ty . of that Churclv and that Rpl t glon.;Jl' now. come. iy auicruiycv.wii-- the Corbnatipn'PatHaving fprighteerT years' 8trepuou9!y;vbpposed.ith Ouestioiii anddUrin thatberibd having d i I igen tly Sought for everjr : tegi timajebrt cumentand ground bf bbjectioq by which tonppose;it,vIT cannot give betterproof ui my, sincerity in now ttenying iuc .ir.ttiiui ty bfthis objection drawn i TromVthetjrjpis' bf :theCoronationl0ithi ;th during the: Whol e of these eighteen years'! have uniformly denied its validity; '-'Ihaye always acknowledged Jt impossible to read the ' terms bf- tha t)ath and)pntendi that the' removal ;bf civil' "disabilities is incon sistent with; theiterbvuch ;a propp sition cannot be for n h e m o m e nt m a i nt a i n -ed, and in this bpinFon l agreed, with Mr. Pitt;and Lord LiyerppplThat there are other difl? cu 1 1 i es ho wev e r,which wil t ac company the settl emen t of the q u estion, I am not prepared te deny.' That there should be d iffic ul ties m the ; why of adjustment and that an un willingness to parttwitb what may be called vested political rights should be -felt.cannot'be' a matter;ofrsurprisebuwt I would conju re thelHouse- to; conie . to the cf6 n sid era t io;rof th b q ues ti on fn Vthe spiri t uf conciliation and mutual goodill-ClTl i m plore 4thenr to put .ou t of view trivial ob jections, : and tit consider duly how they inayibest secure "the advantages! whTch" a co n cession wilt give u s,' and aver t . the'd an gers which must" resu 1 1 f rom t he -. refusal ? Let us considerwhethertheBasisbb which I propose . to put these "measures -be just whether the measures themselves be well founded ' Let us look to thfejrj ultimate! object :' and iftHal bbject be not,in!itself vain,1 let us not for - any slight . .bbjection forego lhe advantages which evbryjsensl bl e man must reasonably expect although th e resul t. m ay be v;spmewhat5 over-fated by spine of, the most sangiiine ambngbs j and let us net4efuseltbdo what .we can to avert th'bse dangers-which every man'must foresee ?-if this attemnt at conciliation sh oul d ': fail to ;be adopted ;;ThVre havet befe, been great occasions in whicit mi nor objects have been setusidei lrll?.; here referred to the union of ScotlandJto the Septebniat'Act, rthe Regency and the Unionof Ireland, as occasions of this kiml. ; I shall now proceed, said Mr P. to exp ai n the principl ebrf lydii ch t pmea sures of Government,! ambwlabout io propose are founded t antt I sh all vthe n proceed , to; explain' the4 details, jand that pnucipie, in a wora, is - me aDoiition of yciyil disabilitiejandj tile ' equaliza tion .of . political t risExcebtions and restrictioiherevarey Jwhiclv ?yill be indicated ;bip These are, however, only exceptions from the rule, ;Tie rule;J repeatisthe equa lization of civil rights and t rule, the Qoyernment haye a, rit to de mand the assent o f the"Rbman Gathol ics to the other; enactmeiits Iwhichfhkllfeel Unessential to -propose-in thewajr of be rurities. Another principle bf these tnea- sures . tSj 'tbeiHiaiofenance I inviolable;? bf me. jl i uLesutuL engion,vits aoctnne ais-cipVinc'ind-'gbwnnienU dis- tuwiuuwnicn torso njany years tnis ques-? tion has underconeVit is unnecessary that I shoijld go intojaTde'crjpttb which affect .Roman QatholicsIt is knowii matiuuse uws ainer asappticanieto isng Hsand lrisWfroaji4l former Jjiave.nbttKe'Sambipriv the latter-- The . Irish Catholics ;can for example,, holdbfficesbVwluchEngirsh Catholics are potlelipble btnd? t lisK Catholicjdbesv? npttebjbyj:the? same franchise. -tt:ilVitirigh thelrish Cathblics cto rthe possession of civil rights, : i';ts:Dntabna same priyijeges shouldienferred; bb the English Cathoficsiin! bpinidh I be lieye; is very nleralljprevalraiihtthe Penal-Laws affecting the Cbthbjtcs are no ho longer in; exist en ceJThIsVis ;ho Weaver ail erroneous pinion.KTO some jof thV Penal .wjanVepealbdnd the lbillwhich:i abbut vjto;: introdHced will 4iay e J;heeflect:b1 taws. -' These chiefly relate, to. the posses sion, of prbperijBjrJ sent, vaRomVrtCaiho) labided proherty'untir? hb Stakes -tliree'-ie parate oaths; In v!i e proppsed bill a clause wiH'belntrbduc irouucca lor&uie1 aaiai-?ica cii aaa r,zi pmusjo 5 1. trcacttveiHoaS - that Roman Cat-: : " :ct to r-.rli-np- r-rliaraent;K-: itu.ticn:asprc any restrict i.' ; v v. to rx.;"r,ru tc ... - : ::iay qualihi: The foil yii: lliu V.. llio ilV. ur.bcrs of CathoUc r c n titled. to siu 13 tae path prep ed t, It ... trun Catholic ? t 1 JO- tL-t 1 rFrcfas-tb.' ,ion. tt T A. B. :rcy thra I.'will be f",:!:t:'! "nd Lea.rtrtiA-.Tii. !His Majesty Kin- GccrC3 thPourf defend him to the utmost cf 'my power tt' H conspiracies imd .11 attempts -whatever shall 1 3; .made " "aai t hu Person,' Crbu-D'-nity t-andlv l do my utmost, endeavn, C disclose and akc 4;nown to Maje?t t k heirand successor?,.'-AU-'.;TT'onsr and tf' ous Conspiracies which' mav beVfurmea , aUor him cf them.; -And X; do; faithfully :p'jJnsV msilntain, fuppcrt, aiid defend tathe i,tt1SS ?' my power, the Success on ct the Crow n Ju-i succession, hy :"n A ct entitled : An Act f f' further; Lamitatioirot tlie Crowh,vand bette M curing the -Rights at;d;l.ibrties br.thesdb'i'v i"!;ahxi jUiVdV : limited tothV PrTncess Sophiv . lectfess of Hanover, and the : .Heirs of -her find ( beinnestantsheby utterIyvrenoS and abjuring any obedience or allegiance ur ny other, Person claiming or pretending s & x lothe;Crownf the realms. . : And I. dSfur-t declare ?;that it ii uot an article of my : faith Ihat-1 do renounce, reiect and abinre . t,2 f nion, that Princes excommunicated or den of Rome may !ic "d epo? " d or murdered by the suujccis or any person vnatsoefer.: ;.Andir .anjrcjnponu or citii junsatction, power, sni Tiortty, or pre-eminence.-direct or indirect within this .realm;; ! do swear that I will def' o thetmbst of; my power, the settlement property within this realm, as established 1, the Laws ; tA.nd Tdo hereby disclairay 'dlsav, and solemnly abjure any ihtention.to subvert tl' present Church Establishment, as settled by hi within this realm AndI do solemnly swear tha; 1 never-wnti exerciseany privilege, to which I am" or may become entitled, to disturb '"or weik en the Protestant Keligibn or Protestant Oo?err merit u? thia kingdom : And I do solemnly in tbV presence.of God, ; pro f ess, testify, and' declare1 . that i do make this Declaration, land every par, thereof 1 in the plain and bi dinary ;sense of tie words of thisJpathVwithout any evasion, . tqu. Vocation, "prl mehUl reservation whatsoever," j t The bill proposes - no incorporation cf the RbmanytholTc Religipn. fvlt is tot; left'to tlie mahagement of the,,Pope and his Clergy iis Heretofore. Episcopal title, of the vUnited Charch'bf England -'and; Ire! Jand are ; not to;beassu med bjr tha Itoraa: CathotiBishbps ?y Bishopsthey arejto b' calletfb.nd tb. hayethe right of exercisic? 'tiieirwi.powyraV m"ttheir;orn'i' Church' but thearer nbt to assume the titles cf the Established ChurcB ; -" ' It- is; ; proposed to raise the freehold qualification 'Jfrom'grtv'-rkhiluns to fa ' pounds, ; jr::friy '-:--y J--' :7 1 ;, Pro vision is also made for rc -'sterics i me n,eiigioos-oraeroi me jesuics, taol fineir numuer.inay oe ascertainen. ; 1 l proceed now to consider the exception! with which I propose to accompany the nerai ru 1 e which? Ihav e already stated ti ithe basis bf tSis i measure !I propose that the leading principle u pon, which these ex- ceptioris shall. be founded shall be the ccn nexion 'which uch duties and offices hare ;wlththeEstabli offices I propose specifical ly to excep t art, the Lord jCieuten other Chief (joyfnbr haying th e Chu f ch patrca age" ib his hands and the Lord Chancellor, and Lord Keeper br Commissioner cf 'tb Great Seal in Great IVritain. : ; V;'.! Mr. P. - concluded x luminous Speech-si ' ' Thusl Sir,'. 1 ' have disclosed , the principle d this;rheasureXand I approach the end of thetask . 1 liaye unuenat,en in mirouucm ana expjamiHf ita provisions ' to the House., ; I trust it will be icalnily and.l-di passioiiftte'Ljconsidered, and ia the spirit in wliicU weJouglitjo proceed,' naftely, ' wi 1 h a d esire ! to p at & ssife and satisfa ctory end to this question.- Let us all bear, in mind wbat the consequences will bejif this bill is' rejected. ;i;his measure appties'equally and' impartially' to all. " I will. not pretend that specious or solid ;bbjectidh may " -not be ';ir.i,de'-to.it;; as taey. may Jbe mad to any measure of an extensive cr bbmplicated" nature r buti depend on it, ;we ne VeV.ahould settle : tlie (Catholic Question, if ever member Jbe. determined it; shall be settled ac cording to his; view': I sk whether there is net a. chance, ; by lumfing the jProtestantmind, thai re; ?bali find new and efficie nt. securities against any dangers that can arise? .; I ask the "Roxaa Catholics them'seives whether the concessions which arer rendered necessary .on their part are to beCQmpared with' the . sacrifices made iJ those who areuhwillinr to co nsent to a depar- and Go vernmeat ? :x-God irrant sanguine cpectations of those 'who. for ywj have advbeatedfthe question, may be fuiSHea. God- gran t that the re mo val f Jhe diaabilities of the Roman Catholics may assuage the civil con-; tentions of t hecountry; and ttiut by a free bourse their mutal jeal.msies-may be rethoredi and instead of looking on each other as adverss ;Hes and bpporiehts, 1 hey .may;- by mixing in co petionHnd!,mutually.f ;enjoyirig; ; the privilege ;of a free:statei ,leanr to respectyind value esc oerjimlJSiid put'iqu&Iitiea which yet are ac. ally truknown: to either . Perhaj: : 1 am not sanguine as thers in my expectations as to ifutureV hut i have no hesitation in saying, if Tdo helieyethatiheaju Jn ; thd manner I propose, will gi ve better secu j ries t9 the Protestant interests and the Prctesty. ;antltablishm"erts4than; the present state cu tbings,'ahd avert the dangers yliich are io?ai:' inw and immpriinte.: HheeraJ - WI at motive P3 I haveafter daily waiching'; the progress 01 vents-whichVas was said bV : Ir. Grattan, the mistat the heels of the countryman, grar ally,ehyeopa one ubject after another' -objcCcarf lixave, but doe-'oiVan i.onestanci 1 citiinate rbature I I kno7 I could l ave aen.- more popular tna palatum :; cour.c r-i.' r tir-: '..ir j - .;:.. a,v r f'v K.-st forrfO". s testaritintere ts and ProtestLnt estabHsmep- This is my:d.fer-C3.tdlMhe accusation 'face : . I trust sh . i . . ', . t-- rence ,tweenus do uot'aris's cut aruul fZ. w;viaiT:ti luai x. no nui oeiieTe tnat the Pope Rome, or any other foreign Prince, Prelate. pB sbn Stated or Pbtentaie, hath: or cu-ht tn i.Z. tare fom"iawa which have, priven -it is m ts " to deny, it--an'exclusi- o character to oar Leg j lature" and Gavernmeat ? :x-God irrant that the 1 I.llave forrexpressing the hpmion 1 do. out honest ccmvictiori oftjielr truth r Vith the formation'of ;whi 'vl arn ofHcially in possessiar. c I haro tnttde, and this - mi "jrr-., ,wv . that t: is turbid waters ci T'.x loosed and rubslde i but thesa expe--. ii M bP Hiss n r- Inted. if the StTU.Tes anuv- T . - t V si4." I ' , Tv 1,-' fl it 3-r
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