October 2, 1778.
With the lateft ADVICES, Foreign and Domestic
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7 SEMPER PRO LIBERTATE, ET BONO PUBLICO.
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T O N D O N.
HOUSE COMMONS, March iz.
MR. Jama Lultrcu lurprncu mc uhi.m-.7 v, -cry
iu ;dcn attack, which was di;eclrd fole
ly at tbtm: After a (hort intreduclory fpeech,
he made the following motion:
That an humble aedrefs be pref nted to
bis m&jwfty," moft humbly to defi.e chat he
will begracicufl plefed to instruct the com
mnnert whom hia maj ft may name lor th purpofr. of car-
7 8 ,ffi.t ui-h fuffieknt powers to treat, confine, ar.d agree-
Jf r , more of .he reel ed colonics a, may .end ma.
L obftrofl the happy oxk of peace and ficere -Gr
Sa.VU the colcies, that the comm. (Boner,
on between jarwr a -nieft,', name, the iemov-l
tffrch mbifter or mi.iBeil f-oin hn maJktt, , coo. e. s. 1
Mr in Airport of hu motion, exyieli o hioileiJ wim
V;;.d iropriitv, and . f of mar.y ;..
Lot. to prove the inemcacy of the fc.ll, jou patico,
c-mm'iti men had the propofed -dun u i -a c g
Ml UnpOpUIAIiljr Vai aa. - 1 . -
.c.:iu.u, mau.er , .-h th I thas the
beaud the culomc, he dctm.ea .1
-oia no. agree f .aa -o oe hcir
f;ices o, men, .ho hal tl&V change
mcft bitter enemus. ll the m'.r'"""t ' .tt... w;-hout which
i.ywe.edetcrmmcc ;-' (t ;h,y mu;l fen. back
TKcn will beatik to e..aer op.n u bluoi'thito a vaft ex-
fJf fxem ii.arudH.ns ; he nation ""'WftS ol the commit
Derce bv the delv ; not on account ol iHc laiaiKrs.vi
Knn t. but L'caufe the de,a -' i . pa '
1. would, therefore, be P'""' ,,' M .ffurc the rica..
armirii: ine com in iui " . r. nj k- removed.
:a-.L. b- r.n-j ihr the ininilte.s lh uld B rem v
, Lord B.aucbamp pot up next. In tiw ffJj thaC
faid, lh.t he cycled to the mcde of proce .d,ng ,
the onlv parliamentary one was co ad Wji H rf
thefe mimra wha we.e odiooi to the peopu,
roal-adm.miitration. i.. Tr wuld be, he faid,
Mr. ji -ppolad tVe ro"' i"U, that meo
the moli nom.l.itmg ctrcoWiBar.CJ o ta
ho baJ , iven the M ad.icc .0 he.r Jj-Jjfi,., if :heir
vho -o.ld have Lea. deemed the mol aMe m
hi bee. Hnri ",;" The -r hated the
Ike whim and capmc of ihe cc.-a.-J.
miniftry hlieved-; and indeed it w,as not very fbrprifmg they
lhoJ.d. fothey found ihemfehes vigoroufl,- oppofed by the .rni
Siry in their favourite prrja of independence. Miniften had
er.Jeaxcured to aflert the rights of parliament ; could parhamen
in n.nnur wilh to remove them for havingobeen their champions f
Cinid parliament cogent to fuch an indignity as to change the
- . t a. f!,r.,!r1 rViir.lr nrnncr to infill on It r
niinniry wuci.cvcr l.urua "o. r r - . . r
To be always ready to receive a mihitlry from the colonies
. 1 l . rK vi;-nrirtr of their will r
De tneir toois, ineir mere ---7 -
their tools, their mere agents, ms y
Mr. 1 aolwered wun ius uiuui auiijr, ...-6 - D
went; and obilrved, that he thought, thai Cnce the time of old
Cato, the doartoe of peccata omnia fuvt pari had been expUovo.
T.ar he ihauld not have thought the honourable gentleman had
fo particularly been given to the maxims of that oider, as impli
citly to adopt them f for that he himfcif faw great difference be
tween the grievances, if there were any in the declaratory act,
ar.u thefe which had been the caafe of the prefent war.
Sir dul Ik'.ay thought there was not fuch a precedent to be
found in the journals ol the houfe of commons, as that of com
niaflbners having power to difmifs roinillers.
Mr. Aubrey laid, that he believed the lad hcnoorable gentle
man might find commit ners having power of doffing m ni
,t,rS. ai ,hAt of nMiacib for the repeal of all afts
in the jmpgt of Sc j mrnah ; that norwuhllandirg what the
fit h,n. gefdeman (4. Kgb) f. " offaSl
bSnx alike to the J.W'," he could from authority,
that the Congreis h,d repeatedly declared t
treat . i(h our prefent fee of minders - which was a ftrong ; mpll
dation. be faid- that they would treat with other ; tha t whe
ther they did this in imitation only, of the 'g
tions of our minilters, that they would never f? ba'
grefs, he could not tell; that however, as gSd
Ld been a favourite maxim on the treafury bct fctn Bngg
had the fuperiofity, he thought a might be reafonablv expert J,
hat the cry of the Acricu w; aid in -eW
dUmiflion of our minilters ; that V"J""Z S3
fteo to re-ain the alTedions of the rfaiu ; but that it comu
j .7 IfVon He a&ed the right hon. member if an aft of par
adcmn.itration . He in 8 h miniter of ftate ;
liament was ot of more conleoienise w
Ld vet acls carl-ament had t hon. gCn-
d;gDy fc;f Jff.ont, and made a buftle about
,lan h.. p.Kketea tne g indetd He then proceeded
the 1-fTer one; this was a ouile.qu- inacta. r
tne i-ur j . , ta1 change of men, as wen a
to (he, tne prooaou . - - ; as they had no
Irieaiurer, would bw inhittd o X betrayed a hearty
reafon to eaped that meo wno n profeffi-.ns cf
dtnre to d-flroy them could be J- He
ft eodfkip, and the Uiew tncj m . , meafure mov-
tSvZltoSZ which h. w- fw -