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11 '2'""" iu-j .... ,. V - - : .... . - - t . 1 - ." f -I AND rrrrL .-..Published every SATURDAY bv HODGE and BOYLAN. Numb. J 1$ 'if11 1 'V'"1 THE NOaTHGAROtLNA MINERVA; MESSAGE JVom tlie Prefident of the United State to both ------ - Houfes of Congrefs -June 5, 1798. Gentlemen of the Senate, and j "Gentlemen oFTFie Houfc of ReprefentaTives,' I NOW tranfmit to both Houfes, the Communi cations from our Envoys at Paiis, received fince the la ft, which have betfn prefehtedby me to Congrefs. United States, "yunelTJT' No. . . : ,', ... . deal altered by the coldnefs and VifUnce which we had obferved. That inllead of ftt ;ng him often, and en deavourinir to remove the abbacies to a mutual ap- we hau nor once wairea on nam uenerai Pinckney'dbTerved, that whcnwe. delivered him our letters of credence, he informed U6, that the Direc tory in a few days would deciae concerning us, and that when the decjfion was mde he would communi cate it to Mi: 1rartmVhad fof-fome-time-fufpe ed any procedure on , our part. He anfwCred tliat this related only to our public cliaracler. and "nof rrr on an ' Pari:, Marsh $tb, 179S . .- Dear Sir, "' . . j' -' -' '..'.'.:;.: GjlEEA<toh you XjL TiTmir N3; 6we ftei ofrForeign A fFa irsA on the fubjeft of the late law authorizing the captuie ct neutral vefTtls, on board of which any nrodudtions of Great Britain or its poffef-J lions mould be lad.cn, fhe.wing how incompatible luch, law was wirh the -rights4l3f neutral nations and the treaty between France. yand America, its direft ten dency to deftroy the remaining commerce of our coun try, and the particular- ha id (hip's to which, it would Xubjedt the agricultural as well aseommeicial incereits tf our countrymen, from the peculiar Jituation of the United Statess Wt added, that, undejr.exiiljn j:ir cunillancr's, we 'could no lonjrer refill the convidtioa that tTie demands of Prance rendered it entirely im " Jriift'icable toeffcft tlie" objr'61's ."of our niiflion and that not being per'nanen't "Minillefs, but Envoys ex traordinary, with full power for particular purpofes, ive deemed if improper to leniain longer in France jSfwr the imRfiffibillty of efFitting thofe purpofes had demonluated. LJcione however we took tRis private vans. General rinckney laid, tuat application made by his fecretary fof 3 paflport for an ineafure and explicitly demanded ;our paflport s, we . deemed it expedient to dtfirc Major Rutlcdc;e to call cn Mr. Tleynd, on the 19th ultimo, -to know if he bad any comniunicition to make to. us .in confe uence of our letter, dated the 171ft and delivered, the 3 1 II of January. To this Mr. Tjlleyrand replied, that he had no anfwer to make, as the Directory had 'not taken any order ori the fubj.ct,. and when they: did, he yould inform us of it.' btill being anxious to earrvp tfeft ly.f rom-rra 'I vie feiiioyr Jinal letRr--wKel herTlier'T were no means, within mii power, of accommodating our differences " with" .France, von-juft, and reafonable. grounds,, we wrote to hhn on the 27th of February, foliciting a pei fonal interview on the fubjeft of our million ; he appointed the"2d of Marcll followiilg. -You will find in the exhibit A, herewith enclofed, what pafled oh 1thaFoccaTi6i ther interview. -rWe ha ive.de uiledin the latter part . of the fame exhibit, for your information, the fub flancerf that conveifationj From thtfe recounts you may obfej-ve that ttie views of France, with rtgard to lis, are. not eflentiaJly changed, fince our communica tions with its unofficial Agents in October lait. We have the hono to be, - ; 'With great lefpedt, J - t. Your moll; obedient humble fervants Charles CoTtswog.TH Pincxney J. Marshall,' -U- Col Pickering, - Secretary of the United Litrs. '.TV., ' , ' t Amencair under ht3 care, he was told.that He murr apply to the office of police,' for that America hAd no minifttr in France, fince the recall of Mr. Monroe." I'he mTnlfftf fald," that was very true ; atld then pro ceeded to fay', that the pircftory felt itftlf wounded bylhe dlfttreni Tpeevh'e .Adams, whibh be' had ftated, and would require fome proof 6n the part of the United btates ot a friendly difpofition previous to. a treaty with us. He then faid-that we ought ta fearch for and propofe fome means which might furnifli this proof i thatif we were difpofed to furnifli it there could he no dif ficulty in finding it ; andhe alluded very intelligibly to a loan, - He faid, he had fcveral conferences with Mr, Gerry on this fubjtfSt, who had always anfwered that we had 00 power... Mr.Getry faTd, that hcjiad ft.i ted other oljedion's ; that He had "particularly urged that it wou'd involve uilin a war with Great Britain. Hf made no reply 4 atid 'General Pinckncy obferved. th4 a loan had been fuggeftcd tbus, but that we had tTnifWmly anfwcied that it exceeded our powers. Mr. i allcyrahd jeplicd, that pcrlona at tucti a Qiuance as we deavoured, accor,dih'to the btfl of our judgment, 0 tepretcnt truly this difpofitipn of our government ;bli that we udderftood that Fiance; would fconfidcr ntH ' ing as an evidence of fiiendnSip, but an aft whicll would tranfeend and violate our powers, and aV the fametinre operate the moll ferious injury to our coun try ; that neutrality, in the preferit war, was ot the la'lt importance to the United States ; and they had rffi'lfd h't'To'iy'" maintain if f itai; tjify had com mitted no aft vohinta.rily, which was a breach of it y MTojol.d da ooihing in feyrprhfdrrfcwwir would juftly arrange them among the btlligerent powi trs; that in the prcfent 'ftate of thincs, if Americst ihe 't ihe-woutd Vas aftuallj only be required to furnifli .money : that wc had neii ther (hips of war or men to be employed in it, arid could confequenlljv as a bellitrercht power", "'only bt a(ked for money that, thereTore, to furnifti moneys -was, in.fafV to - make war ; - which we couul by ntf . means confent to do ; and which would Abfolutely tranfeend our powers ; being an aft altogether with out the view and Contemplation of our government;, when our million was decided on : that with refpeft to fupplies to it. Domingo, sio dou,'t could he enter tained that our merchants would furnifh tlwrmvery abundantly if Fiance would -permit tle c.-niir'cc ; and a I an really payable after the cl(fe of the vvaT, might then be neirocjated. Mr. Taileyn.nd again rnatked the dTlinTftTon rTelvvecn filencc of ; in'truftioni" and an exprelV prohibition i and again infilled :on the neceffity of our proving by fome means, which we mud ufTer, our friendfliip foi the Republic. He faid, he mull exact from us on the part of his government fome propofition of this foit ; that to prove our Cricndfliip, there muft be fome irr.rht diate aid, oir fomcthing which- might avail them ;' that -the prine?- pies of reciprocity would require it. , Gehcral Pii ck ney and General Mai (hall underftood him, by this exprtflioni' to alliide to the 'Ioanrfomtt!y made bjr France to the United iStatcs. Mr. Gevry at the time thought he alluded to the treaty to be made, and faid, all tteaties fhould be founded 'iV reciprocity: and tlitn afked him whether a loan was the ultimatum of this government. Mr. Talleyrand did not give a direct anfer to the qtieftinn ; he faid. as he was we were trom our o-overntrienr, anu poucueu as wtre of the public .cpnfldt nee, nujft oftenufe . their difcretioni and exceed their powers for t ht public good,. That there was a material difference between aftinij when i'nlhuftions were (iltnt, and doing what was particularly toibradetl- that it lndeea a loan . was pofitively forbiJtten we might confi- der otirlelves as . jncapa'ole ot maKtng one; put f. as - he fupr ofed , was' the csfe (hc looked thp ni.Ai.inVoiir indftiftions were only filent.-that it mUit rpertTelTeoTO'trs" to ct m "trxatc not -?nmatrT"'ui.' "uwi umi luc-guvcriiinciiv tiimmn'ii .-. wMctr would aemonnrate Qcr. frtenniy diipotii'on to wards, and our good wilhes for the RrpuU', ur price jdoTiCr-Jic -faid theadjuftment- of complaint wo.uld be eafy j that would be matter of enquiry j atid if France had' done Us wrong' it wbuld be : repairedi' Btit that if this was refufed, it would ircreafe the dilhhec and cbldneis between the two Republics. The con verfation continued in this llyle until four o'clocky when we took our leave, and agreed to meet in the evening. N In the courfc bf iti icd in reply' to fome obferva- March the id, At three o'clock we waited on Mr, Ta iky rand, and were almoft immediately introduced to him. Ge . . , ,- . j .1 . ... :r. .!'... . 1.'.'."" r,.. neral 1 inckney commencea mc convcriauon uy iay ing, .that 0r government and ourfdves weie extreme ly anxious to remove the f'ubfilling difference between the two Republics : that we had received manr pro . pofuions through Mr. Y. to which we hsd found it - impracicabj'e to accede 1 and, that we, had now wait. ed on him for the purpofe of enquiring whether other ' ' means might nat be devifed-which woul'i tfFeft fo de lirable an objeft. The minifter replied, that without doubtr tire Direftory wiihed very -fificetelyreHi-fiurf-Fv " rit- to-rfce-a -folid " frtynafp-cflaiithedyjtween-JFrance and jthe United State's adad' manifefted LTthifc. difpufition. by thYra dinefs Vitli hich orders for; . our paffport were : given." " TTiiat "the TJTFeftqrySd; '- been extremely wounded by the lali fpecch of Gene l,nl Wafhiiigtoir, made -.to Congrefs whenabout to qdit the ofSce of Prtfidentpf United States ; and by .the Crft and laft fpeech of Mr. Adams. That explana--l i6vi.f'thyelfpe.eejyer a XiV v General Pinckncy .expr'tffed hisHruvj)rife tliat the i Feeli of ' O crtcraLAV a ftAiogt- was-caiiiplaiueil of ar according to the beft of-onr jitdgment; fois the public good : that In almoli all the tieaties made diirr infflhe.teyolution, ,thc negoeiators had exceeded ,their powers ; although the government appointing them was at' no conhderable diftancc. He particularized the treaty with Pruffia,. and fevtial others. General Pinckncy told him that our powersid not extend, to a loan,-and perhapa ttight IbTfctd'it.'-'Th'EMinifteT liill urged the ' difftrence between ah exprefs prohibi tion and mere fileiicc. He then proceeded to ftate that the principal bbjtftion on the part of our go vernment toaloaH muft be, that it would draw us oiit of the neutral fituation in which we, wifhed to conti nue ; that there were various means of evading this j firft, the lecrecy of France, whicfi might be relied on ; atid fecondly, means of difguifing the loati might be ArvlhA . which would effectually prevent its being jconfidered as an. aid during the prefent war : that if we were truly and finterely defirous of ,efftfting the things we mouleipme.Meh the meaiiSi ne again uxicu pupumnm v. , - - . , on mm oart'. as beinff abfolutelv neceffaty toVtv hlT.t,m-AOJ,mk thatiwverTrmCTts-flecoi ,.m. ...i'nc rf tner hnftilc" to it. Mr. confidefed the mutual interefts of the two nations .as irtdiy wnii uniu v.,...r..-" 1 . . v . 1 c j ,...w-ii. Mr .TalVvranfl. who fooke requiripcr peace and friendfl ip : and we relied on hnd- a- nA n liin Kimfrlf with refDtft to the ing fufficient motives in the tnterelt . of Fiance to pre Tf v. . "i . -t-s- 1 C lit-fur.. tlif r.i -.!L'A-.-.T-fiinif nB Yn-an - rT propofition Which he had alluded to, tuppoung iv iu , " :... .-uu..F, wunuui u,,. u , j- " " be a new one and he anfwered, that one of them' j which ttanfeended our powers and would be fo inju wae fecrecy ? but that there were befides various ways rious to our Country. As we were taking cur leave, ..u-u . .fii I fTr.ft m rriver the loan as Mr. Tallcyiand aeaift , noticed our not" vifitirg him l.fP nnr. bv limiting the time of zdvanc- and faid,-that h conceived our not having had an aa- Mil (-J tions of Mr. Tallevtand.xTefDeciinff the proofs of friehdlhlp required by France, General Pinckney 6b ferved, that bur being here was a maik f the friendl difpofition of our Government, and that while wc I were here, the Government had phVd- a "decree fof feizirig neutral veficls having on board any article com ing out of England ; which in its operation Vould fiibjeft to capture all our property on the Ocean.xMr. Talleyrand replicdr that this was not particular to uav but was common loaH.t icneiiCranymTmr--- . merely obeyed, Hhae Direftbry w wcunded-ai r,mrV;ded. He faid, that the ordinal fa V , ai.v. r- - ; , , t. o 1.1 L 1 irable difpofiUP" ue uircciory asu uccu a youu. ing it to-dutant tniiaimcnis. mr. vc,'7. vv"- that Dutrimond -had fuggefted"that a loan was propofed to be made, payable after the war and in fiipplieVta'St.'T):orngD.- Mr..,Talleyrand fignifid, that that "might be one of the means ufedj -and faid tkfif "we were only fincere to our wifhj it would.ie cafy to bring about the end. General Marflvall told AIr .Tollpwranfl. that if the Minifters" of the United .....;--.--- . ... . States had manifefted any imwillingnefs to take all proper meafures to reconcile the two Republics, or any indifference on theifubjeft,' Uiey had verytadly reprVfented the feelings and wifoes of their, govern ment t that the government of the United States was molt fincerely delirous of prefetving thc; friefidfhip of France, and had.' in his opinion, unequivocally mani fendlhtefirciby l)aviitpud' ug under:the:ts triord inai y circumftances attending our miffion,..an d by having folowg patiently borne the immenfc lofj of propet'ty.whick had been fuftained ; that wc had cn- diencc from the Direftory otieht not to have prevent ed it. General Marfhall told him, that pur feting the Directory, or notwaS sn objeft of pp (ort of concern to. us 5 that we were perfectly indifferent with, regard to it but that we. conceived, that until our P.BbJ?ff charaftcrWai'irt ta.mejaegtceJiitniapd, an4.. e were treated as the minrfttrs and reprefentativesj)f our government, wccjoulJ not, take upon, ourfdves to ad as Mmifttrs, becaufe.by doinjy fo. we might lub jeft-ourfelvt8 to fome injuripus circumflance to which we. Cjould riot fubmit. He faid that was very true ; but that -we might fee him as private Individuals j. And dlfcufs the objfcrg of difference betw ten us Werequefted of Mr. Talleyrand another iriterview, at foch hour as might be convenient to him, on the "hxth inftant. He anfwefredi that he would-receive us at half paft eleven V at'-whrch hour we atttnded him. . Immediately after our. arrival at hi office, wc w ere ...::'.;"'-..:.:. v:.:j .:.::::-;":r.: : -.. ' X 11 . .' 1. ' A ' J
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