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( ' i i' In'all discussions between Government and Government whatever may be the diuerences of opinion on the facts or principles brought Into Tiew, the; invariable rule of courtesy and justice demands that the sincerity of the oppo sing; party in the views which ill entertains should never be called in question. Pacts may be denied, deductions examined, disproved and Condemned, without just Cause of offence ; but no impeachment of the integrity of the Govern ment in its reliance on the correctness of its own views, can be permitted, without a total iorgetfulness of self-respect.; In the sentence quoted from M. SerurierV letter, np exception is taken to the assertion that the complaints of this Government are founded upon allegations entirely inexact,; nor npbn that which declares the explanations.: given, here or at Farts, ap peared not to have left even the possibility of a misunderstanding on such delicate, points. The correctness of these assertions we shall always dispute,: and while the records , ofthe to Governments endure, we shall find no dif ficulty in showing that Iheyare groundless; but when Al. Serrurier chooses to quality the non accomplishment of , the engagements made by France, to which the President refers, as a pre fendi non-accomplishment, he tonreysr the idea that the Chief Magistrate knows or be lieves, that he is in error, and, acting upon this Itnown error, seeks to impose it upon Congress and the world as truth. In this sense, it is direct attack upon the integrity; of the Chief Magistrate of the Republic. As j such it must be indignantly repelled ; and it being a ques uon ol moral delinquency between the two Governments, the evidence against France, bv whom it is raised, must be sternly arrayed. You will ascertain, therefore, if it has been ciised by the authority, or receives the sanction "ofUhe Government'of France in that sense. Should it be disavowed or explained, as from the, note of the Count de Kigny to you, written at the moment of great excitement, and in its Butter not differing from M. eruriers it is presumed it will be, you will then use the ma terials herewith communicated, or alreadj- in yonr power, in a temper of great forbearance but with a firmness of tone not to be mitaken 1 to answer the substance, of the note itself. - . ?. ' Jtf. Serurier to Mr. Forsyth. :"-'vl i WSHiNCTon, February 23, 1S35. i .' ;nf.L'U' i' ci..-:"::tl-' ..V- I- . - x uv unaursigiieu, imvuv ixiraoruinarv and Minister Plenipotentiary of His Majesty the Kin? ol me r rencn, at wasningioii, nas received orders ; to present the following note tb the Secretary of State of the Government of tho United States, j . It would be superfluous! to say. that the nies si ge addressed on the 1st of December, 1834, to the Gongress of the United Slates, by Pr.jnt Jackson, was received at Paries with a sentiment of painful surprise. vi-: " -' '-'i The King's Government is far from supposing that the measures recominendeed in this message to the attention of Congress, can . be adopted (totees) by that Assembly ; but even considering the document in question as ja mere manifestation of the opinion which the President wishe to ex ' press, with regard to the course taken in this affair, it is impossible not to consider its publcition as a , fact of a most serious nature. J J ' v ; The complaints brought forward by the Presi '; dentj on account of the pretended non-fulfilment ofthe engagements entered into by the King's Go vernment after the vote of the! 1st of April, are strange, not only from the total inaccuracy of the allegations on which tliey jare based, buf, also, . because the explanatious received by Mr. Livi.ig. aton, at Paris, and those -which j tlto undersigned bs eivan directly to (ho cabinet of Washington, saemed not to leave the slightest possibility bf .. roisunaemanaingun pomis so usucoie. , - It appeared indeed, ; from these explanations, that ahhoug hthe session of tho French Chambers, which was opened on the S 1st of Jult last, in compliance with an express provision of the char- , te swas prorogued at the and of a fortnight, be fore the bill relative to the ! American claims, an v&oanced in the discourse from the throne, could be placed under discussion, this projroeation arose (ttndity entirely from the absolute iiopossiblity of ' iuhwwviii; nouiiuiv pcuvnj ine jegisia- Cive labors belonging to the year 18S5. . , It alsa appeared that the motives! which had himfered the formal presentation to the Chambers f the bill; in question, during this fji si space of a fbrtnht( originated chicfTj in the desire moro eBectunlly to secure the success of this important ofFurr, by choosing the roost opportune moment of ri offering it to the deliberations of the Deputies i newly elected, who perhaps might have been un favorably impressed, by this unusual haste in stib mittiag it to them sot long before the period at which they could enter upon an examination of it. ' .'"v.! 'viV.'iify The undersigned will add, th at it is! moreover ad vantaee could atiocott to coruprenend wiiat advantage could have resorted trom such a measure, s.nce it could not evidently have produced .be effect which the Jj . " -" " " " ?a "V ol cn' -.., . i.tw "i'viihj vi vwiigri?53, toat inase long-penaing negotiations were debni fivel closed. Tlie President supposes, it is true, that the Chambers might have been called ogober atietr before the last month of 1834; hut eveo though the sessiou had been opend some months earlier, which, iV several reaons, would Itave deon impossible, the simplest calculation will .eerve to show that in no rase could the decision : of the Chambers have beef laken much less niMcie mB?si a5iungiuD. wetore uie 1st ot December. i .. . . - w f , .. - Tle, King's Governmeot bad right Idecait) to believe that considerations so striking would , Iwve proved convincing with tho cabinet of the i ujutea oiaies, uno uic myrn bo bsv no oirect com - tnonlcatino made to the underigned by this Cabi- pet;,o transmitted at; J'arisj by Mr. i Livingston. had given lokeu of the irriiatioo : and misuoder SLianding which tho message of December I has thus deplorably revealed ; and s Mr; Livingston, with that jadiciiousi pint winch cliaracterizesliim, - coinciding hh the system of (tntnagtmtn$ nre- cauuuii mu. temporizing' penaence, aaopiea. by i icbe cabinet ef tho Tolleries, with a view to the i common .intprests, had even requested, at the moment of tle meeting of tbe Chambers, that the ixresenUlion of the bill in question misht be dc ferred, fis order that it discussion should not be I tninge4 witli debates of another nature, "with I This last obstacle had just been removed; and the bill was about to be presented to the Cham ber of Deputies, when theantval of the message, by creating in the minds of all a degree !of aston- nuurciu at .ierisi rqnati iu me just irritation wnicn it could nt fail to produce, has forced the Govern ment of tlif King to deliberate on ' tlie pan ; which i had to adopt - -Strong in its own right and. dignity, it did not conceive that the, inexplicable act of the Presi dent ought to cause it to renounce, ab&olutel v. a determination, the origin of which had been tits respect f.:r engagements (loyautt) and; its good feelings towards a friendly nation. . Although it does not conceal from, itself that the provocation given at NVrfshington ha materially increased the difficultiesd of the case, already so great, ' yet it has determined to ask front the Chambers an ap propriation of twenty-five millions, to meet tho engagements of the , treaty of Jul 4. ( I ll But His Majesty has at the same time resolved no longer to expose his minister to hear1 such lan guage as that held on December 1 . fye under signed has received orders to return td France, and the despatch of this order has been made known to Mr. Livingston. r j:.' The undersigned has the honor to nresent to the Secretary of State the assurance of his high consideration. i V, . V. J-.... i iL . SERUR1ER.: -To the Hon. John Forsyth, j i l- Secretary ef State. lr-- j j From the Richmond Enquirer. . : ' JOHN C. CALHOUN. ' " " Breaths there a wretch, to shame so dead, Who never to himself hath said, Thisistay own, toy nntive land!" ' It could scarcely be believed that the anomaly in human nature, so beautifully and poetically delineated in the above tines, could be found to exist in the eighteenth cen tury. Of all places in the 'world for the exhibition of such a monstrous developement of human feeling, the heart of an American citizen would be (he last olacc we should look for it , and what t still more extraordinary. the American Senate tbe forum where such a develope- meni stiouia re made, wnatman what American, but must blush for the honor of human nature, and for tbe character of his own countrymen, who has read the speech of John C. Calhoun, lately delivered in the Sen ate ol l be United btates, on, the reception of the special atessnce 01 iup rresiueni upon in subject of our affair with France; and what high-minded, honorable, and na- an American Senator in his place, in what should be (he most dignified assembly on the Globe, uttering a string ofthe most unblushing caluooniesagaiust the. Executive. uiiuu uusuui, uui luusi uurn wun maionaiinn in a.iut uM mini iaptc, iumi jusiuying ner in every step taken during a negotiation, where on one side, all was iair, Honorable, nno open on the other, treacherous, quiotiiing, and deceitful. . What member of the . Cham ber of Deputies what of the House of Peers, could have made a speech from the tribune, more completely nation al and Anti-American, than Mr Calhoun has done in the American Senate f Even Gen. Valaze, the author ofthe; amendment in tb, of Pei.. 11,- k;ii r in,iBmJ nity, requiring an apology from our Government, coulti hui kiccicu ,n wore suuaoie them,-at, cullfd a choicer set of phrases calculated to throw odium on tne American people and government, than Mr. CJ has done in the speech alluded to. 'And who is it that thus buckf les on bis armor in favor of France even before the war has begun 7 Who is it that thus denounces bis Own Go veromeni lor not vieldtoe to a demand eomnrnmittmr the honor of his country, and rendering us contemptible in ineeyesoiati Europe, the laughing stock ofthe World! Jotm t. Clh win Once VTCe fi cai Jen t of tbe Rrpqb' liche would disparage.and a member of the highest body assembled under our Constitution, to see "that the same Republic receives no detriment" The same individua who owes all the fame, and gldryr and honor he once possessed, to the noble and elevated stand he took upon another occasion, when EngUad, with much more ixv err and with less provocation, was trampling on our nguis ana jnsuiting our Ilag The same John C. Calhooa l .1 1 I f T .. k ... wriiu in anuuier uraocu oi oar national Legislature, was uttering " thoughts thai breathed, ahd words that burned in oehait ol tbe Honor, the interests and the glory of bis cuuuiry. ; i v:f." , , , ! " Whi.t sbeuld be in that Cesar T" The answer is easy his hopes are blasted his expec tauoBs defeated be is another memorable timinlk in the history of Statesman in all ares, who when they have ted their party, aad left the ranks' of their become ullras on the other side, regardless of public piuion, of their former bigb standing and cbaractar of mi tost an Honorable man should covet the reputation for consistency the estimation of their fellow man ; their own high and elevated position! ike "Dueald Dalcettv" Wey become the "free compagnons" of Opposition the - oiany panv lor pay orappJause, as either ava rice, or Vanity, in advanced age may have the predomi nancea inelancholly illustration of the proverb, "Qaern f w fnmm emnw. , . v. j rj- l'-lf.:v ;i rnm tk Globe, j. - i. . ic iearn mat estimates hive been sent , by the War 3 T - 1 lo ,nf PP1" commwtees, for such expendi- al defence eea iot iot in purposes of nation Tbe amount is: far frtP;s.:. Fortbetrinnfbtoffortification8, powder,sln,i,&e. , $3,000,000 i 1,373,748 Mak sir rzrs rift scyenty-tnree thousand sevn hnndrrf ! mA .. A -??,csne oi six mMiioaytnreeumdred and fortiScation. tcnmZ-J1?01 f" 01 Nructioa and r'of1 the noan. f 560,000 Is estimated for steam latrri X "A ,8a" re rnted, our seacoast will soon be Pp of defence. ?W I certifications el P.nK. n. . ...J '? T fortifications at Kennebec HW c' icum, rortlaad Harbor For?rtrf!S. 7- ' ro",R Harbor, i - foJKf?s:: iZ Fort WarTen MJd Boit( Harb6r: nr"7. barren, George's Island, i i, , For re . n" W froineetown. Cape Cod. For fortifications at New Bedford. I.1,, 7 r r on AOimi. Eor a Fort on Rose Island. For Fort GrUwold. 1 r For Fort fihnii.r ti.-ir.-t. V. Fort Columbus, and other worts on Governor's pA,r n.. . . . ! - For Fori T!yl:. . j . ... wsi m M a umnvins a- w .- For Fort DelaZl aePenoenc,ev r rort at the deboi.h Ofthe Chesapeake and r .V.1 lfentonen O0" ta COTer he artificial harbor at Cape For a Fort on SnlW. x Bauerjf? McHe0ry' Redoubt and Covingt on FoIIfoh.? VKr!?d),rPoi Potomac River. s . . w. vii uiunrue. For Fort Calhoun. For Fort Caswell, n.t r.t. ., For Redoubt on Federsf Point; 1 or loniDcations in Charl.tnn ft t. f or Fort Pulaski. C.neA ' ... V.T" V ,V . rnrfift...- . . 7 1 " ",BBU' oavanau Kiver.' P " "Siine a. j - " vens, rensacola For aForton Foster's Bank. For Fort Bareness. For Fort St. Philip. . - . For Incidental P.n.n.l.' ' ' For Contingendei , of Fortttcations .urieaoi xanenes ('LETTER OF THE DUKE DE BROGUE TO Kl. PAGEOTr ' ; ' - s Lait U. S. Charge d?JlJfairt pf Franet at IVethington. Sib. TherA na Inntrer exists on our part, any obsta cle to the entire accomplishment (of the treaty concluded on the 4th ol July, 1831 between France and the Uni ted Statea. - The project of law relative to the indetnni-: ties reciprocally atipulated inj that treaty, after haying successively passed thew 6 'Chambers, has received tbe royal sanction. ' j'"' i Jf .''''-'K i say on our part : for every thing now depends on the Government of the United Statea ; it belongs to them to remove the only obstacle, that still, subsists. t; By virt ue of a clause inserted in A rt; 1st by the Chamber of Deputies, the French Goverment must defer making the payments agreed upon, until that of the United States diyll.bave explained the true Ueantng and real purport of in ers passages inserted by he president of the Union Cotiis Messace. at the opening of -tbe last session oi wangress, and at which alt France at the first aspect shas justly offended;. - '. 4:t-:V - The Goverment haying discovered nothing in that clause a- variance with its own sentiments, or tbe coarse which it had intended to pursue, the project or law, thus amended on the 18'th of April by the Chamber of Depu ties, was carried on the 87th to; the Chamber of Peers. herewith annex tbe- expote whtcu accompamea it. That document will show youJin a few words, in what ight we consider the respective positions of the two countries, I also annex the report oi.ine ommiiwe, presented to tber Chamber of; Peers, on the olh ol June. Y U wiU thereby ee how far that House concurred in the opinion of thChamberef Depntieg. U ; , t Mr. Liviozeton has left-Paris, without waiting for the vote of the'Cbamber of Pferaj, leaving Mr. Barton as Charge d'Affairts. The letter by which he accreaueo him to the French Uovernment, is oi ine xoiu oi npui. You will find a copy of it subjoined. In a note dated 27 lb. Ml. Lavignaton assigns as tbe Cause of bis departure, the Isilence observed by the French Government in relation to a previous notooi tne 18th. in which that Minister,; agreeably to orders from his government, demanded th explanation of an exprea sion made use of by Mr. Serrurier in a note be passed to Mr. Forsyth at the time he left. That explanation, sir, we will show, ourselves vry willing to furnish, if it should be asked for again, when we ourselves shall have receivea mose wuicu.ne ne ugm ivmuoeu Anacxed are copies of theft wo notes of the loth and 27th. ! j:;'.v ' I ;. r -V- ,' On the S5th. Mr. Livingston bad addressed to me a third note of great length, in which, whilst be forbears making allusion to the amendment introduced by the Chamber oi Deputies, he fully enters into its principle and probable consequences, as you may ascertain oy reading that paper. As long ks the amendment was but asimple project, the initiatives which did not even belong to the Government, 1 thought; proper, to aosiain irom en . ... :.. ; . tering into any controversy on this subject with the All nister of a foreign ; Government. " Wow that tbe pro ject has become a law by the concurrence of the two Chambers and th sanction pi, the IVing, it ismjauiy to justify it against objections which ars utterly ground ess. - : . : I shall first recall a few facts. The project of law relative to the execution of th Tieaty signed . on the 4tu of July 183 1, had been pre sented three times to the Chamber oi Deputies, viz. the 6th of April, 1833 ; the 11th of June of the same year : ahd the 13th of January of the year following, when it was rejected by a majority of 8 votes on tbe 1st oi April 1834. - ' .:-,;--, L- I:': : -v .v. on the 6lb of May, through a packet which sailed from Liveipool on the 6th of April. ' ' . On tbe 4 th of June, Mr. Serrurier informed the Secre- tary of State,'thst the King Qovernment bad deter- mined, to present anew '.jthe project of law at the next session of the . Chambers J The loss of the bill bavins occasioned the t resignation of the Minister who had signed 4 and this circumstance having Caused different cimRgea.to tne uautnet,. tbe urovermneiu muu uui ue finitively adopt that dcterminatioii until the 8th of April. The brig. Le Cuirassier, bearer of new instructions to Mr. Serrurier, had nrorcover met with a long end stor my passage. ... - t - j : . . At toe expet request of( Mr. McLane, then Secreta ry of State, Mr. Serrurier communicated, the next day, in writing, the declaration .which he had already made verbally. Hit note is dated the 5th of June. . Tbe reply f Mr. McLane is of the 27(h. In this re ply, Mr. McLane states in express terms in the name of his Government, that the' President of the United States will rdy on the assurances Mr. Serrurier has been instructed to give him, and will wait hereafter with eonfi. dtneefor the appeal that is 19 be made to the new Chamber. Mr. Serrurier, in his bote of the 5th of June', had in cidentally observed that itiba the intention of the French Coremmenl to prestnt ogai lAe rejected law at as esrfy a t w -s v, .w..r r.r"-- ..i n uon was reaj; our .demre was nncere ; butt naturally fol- .--vu,,, u.c vu iu. iuc engage - ment, that it referred to! no particular and fixed period that waa left dependent either upon the different exi - jvu.,. w ui nioiu.ii iu.iiuu, ui. unui ma uuj3ci i iskut nu iu every luiug inai concerns foreign rela which both Governments were equally anxious to attain. I Hons ; and it is this same motive, as your will observe Sir bled, bat merelj for form, jand for the sole purpose of in tne montn oi adshuj tne v;namneri were lHAm. complying with the provisions of the 42d article of the a tne provi broiect of Charter.' No law was either presented or f - Mr. Livingston at Paris, and tbe President of the United Stales t Washington, baring seemed to recret IS 4, Ui a XIC that theopportsoitv of this accideuUl tneetin had hot oeen embrac project tt .was 'TT; K u , rt " - U,J . r instead of sacoBng the passage of tbe law. I mm. - f.: v..WVMwmvui wnvai vviuvi uuiuLcu. to the requeat fetade al the subseauent Deriod bv MrL I Lmnirston. lot- ssecial; session in the Fall. Thai I eato place affain before the Chambers the f ' i.s. 1" ' "r" r"nK ,n .r I. i ,1 rLriv,,,. r ... ... f T i I fcU.lu"!""ii ine motive lormai recall ; t)i it did not Of law lelative to the t reaty of the 4tb of July, Usi for exnlan.tinn. . it nt.m . uTT easy t4 make them understand, that ia act- fJO th justice of th; GonnofTbe UnU, Minister must fo doubt; have urged thara with his Go- TheHroendment ofthe Chamber of Deputies'is cooceiv vernment, sihbV the1 latter showed itself entirely con ed 'n te same sjdrit of reserve and Conciliation.. It doe vineed of tbeffsaliditv nd iustness.' not make it (he duty of the French rovernmeni to ask fnr The new See'relarV of State Mr Forsvth. said io the month of October to Mr. Serrurier. 2e President readil understands whg Ma business has not been taken vp at the F?"" ?'PJ&t&-&. M MCfa4iuH MafaMino-ntacte oy wr-L.ivngsion ot a ape I eialRtriirx.ih Fii,. n. p- Jit. i..j.I7 l would be useless- & dwell, ibk meetin, oT.t,; Hi 1 " didm realitykecec the of 5ecem;-" ZtTZVJZZX Frencb Go- J. !n6"ge f b Message sent by tbe ?t would contaa a statement of the tranaaeiions eon. nected wkb tbe tpaty ofthe 4tb of formed that Mi.ir, tha(the President would ssnpln al goVerrtrnen b K ' rise Cm.mM tn . Ar ih Jpniam nftt,, -'a7.C. I soyerninent by examining tbem anew, under toe impres vim imgteu U wfrr m decision ofthe Charters.: r sion that tbev bad become the einwion nf th is.- wnat must liieinave oeen our astonishment than iu I Mr-. ramcUofi tia f - th. Ati.:, a ii I" . f" w juiu oeem recalling its Miniser frorn Washington, : and of lideem- ine tbe faith of treniea biobtaintnl frnv th VAirrZ. ne, appropnatiori necessary to the complelkft a the Convenfion of thth of July ; after havine tdered i . : t r . .? . -t-t-.-bi ii the Minuter of tb United States h passpbrf ; could it be exneeted: T rlneaf. that th Frmr.h vernment weald not wait; blore it resumed any co untcation the subject w3i the Government of the "ion: and before it renewedk ith it the interrunied i lions; that the latter would cime forward and emits if in terms vaicmaieu io r siisrei iue( ontortunate .iot stations to which the Messagf had given rise Sach is in f.ctrcd in sabstahce the coe which th. Z wuciiuaiem introcscea ny tue unatnber uTiouCwhLb pointed oat fo theliovernment; such the tiuvernment i lieiiaca to nave nu i. a a . . law had not made tueirdnty. ' uuuia mmi t !a t a as sm vnu s Ei w iiv a m .Anarh m am m. iL IT Z-. J cs . a Nevertheless It 1 ajainist this reasonable, that Jllr. Livingston seems to wish lo protest beloreliand. "v? t. MriLhinettonfullv ddmili m his note of the 27th of April, the right of foreign Governments' to take proper exception to the acts and language of the Government which he re presents P'J:", r : v';- r' "j ('-' )",'! " Should the President," he observes, do abt orriciAL EXKccTiva act affkctiho a F0RH05 powtn, or.use ez- eepiionable language in addressing it, t hrough iis Minister, or.lhrtiugh theirs ; should a law be jiesscd injurious to the dignit J of another nation ; in all these, and other Similar cases, a demand for explanation would be respectfully received, and suswered in tbe manner that justice, and a regard to the dignity ot tbe complaining nation, would require." j, J cut be maintains that these principcls, the wisdom ol which is evident, are not applicable to an act by which tbe Prssidentv sole representive of tbe cation towards foreign,: powers, 'gives to Congress an account of the situation of foreign relations. . . ; J t i ; - v " The utmost freedom," : aays Mr. Livingston," the utmost freedom from all restraint in the details into which he is obliged to enter, of international concerns; and of the measures in relation to them, is essential to the pro per performance of this important part of his functions. He mu3t exercise them without having continually be fore him the fear, of offending the susceptibility! of the wns,o nuuIO CUUUBH UC 18 ODUgCU ID nOUCC. . ? . .y Were anyt foreign powers," continues Mr. Living ston, ' permitted to scan the communications of tbe Ex ecutive, ; their complaints, Whether real- or afiecti d would involve the country in continual controversie for the right being admitted, it would be a duty to exer cise it, by demanding a disavowal 4f every phrase they uigui aceni onensive,.ana an explanation el every word to- . which an improper interpretation could be given. The principle, therefore, has been adopted, that no fo- iiSn uu jjuiiu bk yor explanations or any tiling that the President,, in the exercise of his fuhc- tionsi thinks proper to communicato to Congress, or of any course ne may aa vise them to pursue.' , . :r , We cannot, sir,' admit such a principle ; we ieaannot admit itj at least without condition pr lirnit, in 4n abso lute general,1 and peremptory sense. '-..7."j.i ' 1 It does not depend upon a nation from the mere' fact of its having adopted such or sdch a form of Govern ment, 10 acquire wnn regard to toreign powers, 'more rights than it would have had, or to arrogate; tn itself other rights than those which it would havo enioved un- J e.. :. .' -i. uci j uumi iuiiii ui goernmenu i canons are tree 10 ciiooae. without anv corstraint the government they please precisely for this reaso .t anuunaerims condition, mat Buch a choitff, concerns them exclusively, and that whatever that choice'may be, it cannot affect the rights or injure the legitimate intc rests of other natioae. T? ; ' :: . : f 1 , Nojv itjis the acknowledged right of every Govern tnent, when the legal representative, or when the offi cial organ of another Government, expresses' himself publicly in reference to it, in language which is deemed offensive, to demaud an explanation of it. Suchia light the Constitution of the United States can neither.abol ish, modify or restrict. C It is an international right (un droit international.) It. suits the people of the United States to divid; the power of the Union between a Pre sident and a Congress. - Be it so. It suits ' them to oblige the President to give publicly to Congress an ac count of the sute of foreign .relations.: Their right is unquestionable. But that the President of the United States, the official organ, the legal representative ofthe Union towards foreign nations, thereby acquires the right to express hiinsdf publicly upon foreigq Govern ments in language offensive to those Governments; that he should; in asserting the Jibertv. thei freedom neces sary for such communications, dispense! with all reserve in his language, and with all responsibility toiw ards the Pwe T?om that language concerns, is what we can- not admit, . ; j ' 1 Im P"biKtyi 1 inviolabilite) whether it relates to Per8ons,' to acts, or to" words, irresponsibility, when it 19 ,effa,,y establish d, is a pure national inatrtution, j IV" miernai regulation, ana can never be used as an argiiraeni in tne intercourse which Governments hold with eadi other. . Jf it were' otherwise ; and if we were la.l - r- - tne argument to its extreme consequences, it might be maintained that the President of the United States has the right,J provideQ it be in a Message to Congress, to impute publicly lo foreign Governments and; to foreign nations the most odious acts, the most perverse inten- a . Ij .t z . . . iiuiio , in who tnem op puouciy io tae aoHnadveraion of me wona, without these governments or these nations having the right to manifest, tbe slightest resentment, since, according to this very strange doctrine, they would not even be allowed to take official notice of it To state such a doctrine, is lo refute jit. Lv . 4f owever. sir, we do not wish te- exaggeratewiy thing. Mr. Livingston is perfectly rigbt wheu he says that the cause, is.! in a general sense, common to all free countries : l nat an uovernments founded on the division of pow er and oa the publicity of debates, have an interest in re Itellinp. On lh "nart nf fnrmin .-r r with the enmmuuiatinn. whTrVf k. p.L-A 1 a iers in constitutional Monarchies, and in renublics the Magistrates entrusted with executive powerire called 1 upon iu mane io tne Legislature. And this is the reason las Mr. Livinsston verv iudiciouslv ibsrvM ht in (France and in England, the language ofthe royal speeches i " me cauinei m rrasnineion. mat lias dirrtari th. .nn. I &act'f France in relation to the Message off President 'cksurt.--If the expressions contained iu that Message ' "ea in a proclamation, or any other act of to wuhc (iuww w me vnionj we would at once have called for an explanation, v Out of respect for the a. . l r a 1 .T ' . . I . r - . " , u V '? OI ltte ?cV:.ne Oovernmeat deemed 1" VuJ?l? n,.anue" u5 Mi ?that occa- 1 nd trom ,h newat friendship of tbe American nation i uui uuuuiin I fiMv inn I ClVPPnmetlF Al f tm, rr.uj Oa would appreciate the difference in such cases, betwn answering n interpellation, and preventing b4 .nnt. neous determination : h AinUm;,. ,.,t:i& r - nwsunderstandinr alnravain h rp,ii.i4 . explanations; it merely sappoies thev will receive thm We Were not mistaken: SI In I..IUt:ll.il..iiL. ernmerif of the United Siatei would annrer.iat- hr Air lference,.ince Mr. LWngsteoJa, he himself observe! h..! tened as ear y as tbe 29th of January last k. as-. .rn. .fj '.i wfnuary.. last, WDe.B. the Mes- V";: m be only known a few i sVJT?"0 ?. ao'e ,De lnesatss hsaM. ! I . - - . . . vwiiitnuci sj lions as long as tfaay were presented only upon bis per, sous! responsibility did nM produce upon Jthe kf set hi unnmiut a. l. . . . tnem sufficient. He to us hisown eon. impossible for the even rT. ' .k ? F. Wr' "? ?tem. 10 ! pprehensive that future events which dontinn i r .C- ZH" T Sff?'?! AmJdment, ?.f lh Chamber of Deputies ntca not svecttn. deGionnt im ih. ... a-,u tu-- after riI- 1 uniaca" ol tiovernmenl, may here- reader wanronor nn alin -.-i- ii, . . . , "rf tv ,vairitNiiiwUi nnr w L- " !he ,nlJuence of different tjircumstances. : t We sincerely wish, sir,' not io. add to the difficulties of snuation' in which the two countries-are resneclivelv placed. d. i Tbe question of date, to which Mr.! Livingston ,,in thisjcase, to attachn Importancelwhicbjit belongs . us to appreciate, does not in any way! alter either lure or the extent of th finis aa'liijaW m sxrsftsB"ifk seems, not to I a Mwa, asa aailT W a V' SSia.a nvi " "VrV:s 2een5 ' ??'bleh. lre?cribed '"Pt - bilitVof the Frencb Natioaas early the 29th of therefore previous tn ih . .r .u ; . . I . -",w -UUIIIIUU Ijll IIIC auiVHUUJVfll Hilt der eonsiderMton by the Chamber of Deputies, or as ear' note.) that is to ssy; before the adoption of this tame a- mendment by the other two brSucbet ofthe Legislature we would be sincerely gratified., He more tkl g9wrn mentofthe United States tsould hat : explain Usdf, the more we should be ourselves disposal to find the explanations satisfactory, and to vle'w the solicitude of iubi guvrriiiurm a9 a lestimonV in favor of the intentions wnicn naa aiciaiea me Messege bf the President. - ' , We will simply observe before ir . - First, That even supposing the explanations, given by i J . . 7 . r T n ve uern sucu as wer might have wished them, they were on the 18th of April the day of the passage ofthe amendment in tie Chamber of Deputies, nothing more than 'the tunvU errrrestinn nfn,. personal sentiments of MrS Livingston. This is an observa- iiuu which uiu iio esr-npe nis ijiuiice. ; . fz ? . , We will also observe that ly the publication of Mr. Livingston's correspondence, tbe , Gov ernuient rf the U. S. bad excited against him sucb a fcelinr ofirritatinn that it would have" been out of our power, eveu supposing .' that we had considered that correspondence h contain. ing nothing but what was right and proper, to avail our selves of a document benriiig bisisigaatare,! to repel in" one or the other of the Chatauers tbe amendment under consideration. . ' "" V, ' '? t !' . I will how proceed to the eiamtnatoh of the einl.-n. nations which have been ofiered to as. ' . i . j , f Mr. Livinirston is riaht in thinkiue that nor el rtione to the Message ofthe Preideht are confined; to these two points. . - j:; , - , - Jst.f The Alessage unpeaches thegoed faith cfhis Mojes 1 tys Government. . ! j.-i-i. j; i zd. It contains a threat to secure the- execution ofthe treatjr by I heear of reprisals.' j " ' , It is indeed under this double point of view tfia ti e Message of President Jackson jsxeited 'in; France the greatest indignation. The Cabjnet Of Washington will rendiiy adroit that if the allegation wre true, the indigna tion would bejusi. No goveriineiit,'r-o people, would for one moment bcai(?) itself either to the direct or iiidii rect imputation of a want of good faith, to the idea of another Government or another people endeavoring to obtain from it through, menace, what would only be granted by it lo justice., . It must jcqually be admitted that when the impression produced by. the appearance of any document is general; hen that impression is fell, nott only by '.he vvhole nation whom jibe document concerns, but - eveu by foreigners, by uninterested people, by per sons the least disposed to take ? part in the contest, the very universality of that. impression is a.tr0jcient evi dence against the general tenor ofthe document. vIf .we examine in detail the McssRge of the President of the United States. (I mean that part of it which relates to the relations between the U. States and France,) it vill-r possibly be fouud that passing successively from : phrase to phrase, none will be met tcith that cannot bear an interpretation more or less PLAUSIBLE ; none of which, strictly speakingcannot be said that it is a simile expose of such or such a fact true in itself, or the assertion of such or such a right which noj oae contests, or tin- er- tormanee oi sucu or sum an c President by tbe. very nature . .- . . ' - oiigauon imposed on l ie of his functions. There in w hich the idea of inv will certainly be found several i.eachieg the good faith ofthe French Government, or of rtcttng upon it through menace or iBtimiuat;oB, is more . or less disavowed - - ; ji ::' I : : U- " " ".i. " .'' Yet when tbe seAofa succession of facts is ta&en into" view ; when w e perceive the jure which! seems io have been taken to present them its unfavorable light, without making allowance for circumstances which explained tbein. without paying any regard to considerations which the government ofthe United States itseHf had previously admitted; vvhea . we see al the end of this uiitriterriipted series of allegation?, which have the appearance of wrongs, for the sole reason that they are made to rest on isolated and inconTptete statements,, the unexpected proposition, the extreme proportion tb ; say 4ne least, to setae ujion French property, it is impossible a'" first lew, it is even difficult after redec'ion, to escape the thought that all this part of the ' Message had been writtewfor the double purpose stated above -r : ; ; : ' rj . 'v't " - ' It is no so. however ;' of least ve 1'iopie it "it riot. ' : , ,'. But to banish entirely sucb an Idea, vvaat would be ne cessary ? . Nothing but what is very simple. We do not here contend about this or that phrase; this or that alle gation, thfe or that expression ; we contertd about the in. Centum itself, which has dictated that part: of the Message If PT presenting to ContrMs a ffAtement of the faoti con lire "ire iiiaitue rii'iiurui ui tue uonea C5l8ies, in ted with the Treat v ofthe 4th of JuU. had na-ialtnticn in cast any doota on the good faith of the French govern. . --.. if . ... - ment ) if it be true that the President of the United Statea (in proposing to Congress to decree the! seizure I force f-.f a..... ' t7 ..I. .. I 1 !.': . .. v., w i imvii inA-jienv, au not ine fitreiuum to as sume with regard to France a menacing attitude, we can not see how he could find jany difficulty jin declaring it, ' ; Is such a declaration really contained ic Mr. Livings ton's note, addressed toj the French government on the 29th of January, or in that which the same Minister left at his departure on tbe 27tb of April 1! j j F ' 1 We j would be equally at a loss to affirm or to deny if ; r-aud for this reason it is evident that neither Ibe one nor the other can be considered xwfErirttt ThLni nf t he 29th of January is intended to discuss, contradictorily with the French government, the correctness of facts as serted in the- Message, of President Jackson. ' It is inten ded to prove that the view taken hy him of these fact i3 at least plausible It is in the midst of this long disquisiv lion that two or three phrases are incidentally' thrown Out, on tbe just confidence which the government ofthe V. States has nfways entertained in the sincerity of tbe French, government; confidence which Mr, Livingston bad always made it a duty to foster, and which, according to him, is not in contradiction with any of the ideas or. allegations expressed in the Messate.i Tbe note aft h a 25th of April, is chiefly intended to make an indirect and anucipaieu examination ol tbe amendment introduced by the Chamber of Deputies. While noon this nation, aad with a view to prove that any demaud for ex planations would m future be useless in fact, and inad. raisslble in principle, Mr. Livingston refers to tbe testi mony given by him in bbr first note, to the rood faith of the French government v he refers to subsequent sanc tion given by the President to the Contents of that note; he dwells on the paragraph ofthe Message of the Presi dent, in which ail idea of threat, il. be savs. enMtf disavowed. : , ; : l ' ' You will easily conceive. Sir. and the Cabinet of Washington wif we think," understand it also, that such phrates incidentally inserted in doenmenfs, the purport " and tenor of which are polemical.' and sorroanded. is j some measure, bv .details of a controversy which i be- sides not always tree from bitterness, Cannot dispel suffi ciently me impression procuced by j tne perusal of the Message, nor strike tbe min d as-would jthe same -, idea ex pressed in terms simple; positive, direst,', and unaccompa nied by any recriminations concerning facts or incidents no lonrer of any importance. Such is the motive, which. imon; manV others, has placed the Frencb Government ; in the impossibility of acceding to the wish expressed by Mr. Livingston towards the conclusion of his not of tbe 25th of April, by declaring (lo the Chamber of Peers probably) that previous explanations give by the Minister cf the U. Slates, and subsequently Approved by the President had satisfied U. : -:t : - - ' -f f j : . .- '.-.j- Tbe impression produced by the perusal of tbe Mes sage was deep. , It was so iu FranceJ ia Europe, and even in the United States:: tbe debates: in Congress, and. public notoriety sufficiently prove thei fact. Under the weight of this impression, the French Government did, not hesitate to place itself in si situation to meet the en gagement contracted in the name of France. In pausing there for jhe present,' and waiting for the fulfilment of those engagements to be claimed, or expecting them' to be claimed, in terms consistent with the regard which is its due, it is not afraid of being accused, nor France, which it renresefits. of beins accused --of avwrtciatins na- Itional honour by any dumber of millionschich it could with wa, a compensation jot un injury ejerea io if nr. Livingston is the find to repel such an idea. Far from it," the French Governaient will consider as a forf unato , day, the one in which it will be able' to deliver iipP nourably the trust that lies in its hands ; but each State has duties to perform ! towards itself, each situationfbss - its exigencies. ' Mr. ' LlvuigstOn objects' lo tbe idea of seeing the President of the United States Igive a new1 tes timony to the good faith Jof tbe French . Government, lest .sucb t a step, reasonable and just' in itself should not, appear to be etclniively dictated by justice, sod by reason. He will not ! be astonished if the Fresco Government, on its side, attaches au equal importance to show that an acknowledging openly legitimate debt, and declaring itself ready to diMiharge itr it bas exclu sively consulted reason and justice. ( ''"': Yon are authorized, sir, to read the present despatch . to Mr. Forsyth, and if he desires, let! ihim msk a cojiy Of it. --- - ? ' ::- !:- Accent.. Sit-A-r A-.ei i nffstonN 2rf (SlgncdV. ; if , f V. BROGUE, ? "t J
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