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We have not yet bit Me t"jWJk tbe-wMef
Oh debate m thejalaru $f the ojjUert ' Thofe
jakries wb'ttb fuere formerly, and in a lima cf
muck great it far city an d dear neft tlanMitre-
Jent, 4floje iwtb the vtmot warnttt) gvd vebe
mence. ore nowt when tnW of We nefilarut ti
life Arc ftlUii in utm, aJvtated Witk equal ,
izral and pertmacilyr7$uih'Tt ' democratic co-
Jipncy and fCiQMtny. The difjerenee ' if, thet
GaHatia tv at then in Cong reft, and obpofed t)
fiilar 'jiS i be u nste enjoying them. Tbefof ,
k wing fpt'ttb sf ' Mr. GauJad, exhibits mojf ef
the argument urged bj iht fedtfaliflstn tbit
f ueUisn ' ':'
It expirsd, by its own" limitation, on the
31ft day of ticccmber, 1801, operating
only upon the years 1 7f 9, 1 8oq & i 8c 1
; and ityas a.mcr.e dead letter at the
tirr.c of pafling thea(!t ojf April, 1 &02,
and is it, fir, for the purpofe of informs
oihe DEOfttc of ihtMmcQ Statei, th
cr. that to oppofe tfee paflacre.of a hillr
the object of which is to give an iriqreaf-
. ed .compenfation to rnen who. may be
pcrl'onaily refpeOed, js ar aar time an
" infidiaus l'arppofitioii:ta.ihff:palt
age ofthe bill now on your tabls is ren-
derTcTpeculiarly ilnpleafanrpf roiiittfe
fevere . r eprehenllon which : gentleman
Kigct with who take the liberty to Ibte
their feritimenJls again 11 kj provifions ;
and, although I think, the Salaries pro
pofd to be given fey this bill are too
high, yet I do cot 'knot? but Lfhould
have comerjed mylelf, mth a, filent vote
on theiubjeci, hat' it not-bf fcr the
very fmguhif amendment which, on the
motion of an Unorableafleman.fr.qin.
Maflachufetts (Mr. F ultis l has been in-
- troduied into the billand the notice
Hvhich ihat, and another honorable, gen
tleman (Mr Randolph .have feeriTit to
take, 'of the few halty remarks, which,
oa a former day, I had rhehonorf lub
mitting t the Houfe. Nm'wifhltanding
the remarks which hav fallen from Rpn
jlenen refpeding tJjtt amendment, UH' I
x think 1 hut, virh gendemen at leaft, with
whom I have the honor generally; to
' cohcudpinion,!,it;trraf fo'rhi afolid
cbjeir.ibn againft the pafc f D
whatever maybethcir 4entinents re--fpefiing;
its general provifionsV By the
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terms 01 tnat amenament, tne laianes
are to betaid to the feveral offi "ers there
injiamfed,!." ai eftablifliedbjr the.ad of
the ad or Mitch; i7QNo Ru for
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wnat purppie is inp amenament inrro
ducedr Not to have any effect upon the
bill itfelf; for it can have no beneficial
efieft and the gentleman from MaflSi
chuletts I Mr. Euftisj has tcld us that it
Is not f or the purpofc of calling any im
puttion or repnch upon thole v ho
paifed the.a'61 cf March, 1700, bui fin,
p'y for the purpole of recording: "a fad,
this adroiniftration falaries are notraifed!
It is true; . that in -March, ' 1 799, owing
to the high price of living and other
drcumlUncest a tempejary aft palfed
mcreafing the compealation, but for a
Jimited tjmci It ia exprefled in foitiariy
words h that aft, that it fhould contin.
wbatj fir were the:terrn'sf tlut law;? j their opinions .o.nce iiv itip iaurfe.e '.'r five
htJiiiH tffaht faltirirtjZfretyrit.dwfd ty'-i years, he doe?1hot4h.'0'kui' is&n&lv. J:eta
laiu9 Wt fMvwiHz ' orimiai mpepM:tts are to tne cnaigi - or u.cajanu.n y I can
whiclrhe was entitled to by any cne or
ue.injbrce for-thrtey'earsand wVyn laWfc, -Oi;, iftf feu of 4lie lalaiy herc
hereby granted " lu. and jthen giving the 1 certaii-ly have r o o:jetinr. m ; gentle
Attorney uerteral tneiumpt 30QQ uois. tmen V acknwlzdi iLg Har t! t
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iNor, iirm lieu or liic.compeiiianoiiHrormeMV 11. rncr an 1 am
vnjre
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ling, that ti t v. 01 fcof rc'ornia'H.n I'.ould
mtiftfn4!teit4h
introduced into a permanent la
VVTioevcrdenied, and who 'does not
knovVjiatfueh an adi'paiTed at hat
tiie---fPo;lhegtIeman .Jgrioufly
fu ppofe that the people 61 thk'cqu ntry
lare 16 ignorant as not to know this ? Or
that they need information, oii&his fub-
jectf But; fir, the amendment purport?
fofore allawed by law-by ait exitling t reft other errors which' they thtn enter-
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iaw comprcnencing, 1 ut'icvc, as wcu,; iaineu.
the 6co-ols. tor,lcrvtces under the ,6th ; Kaviz mad-th-fe.remarksi 'l might'
att. of tfe Bntifh treaty, as any or all o- roment Hiyfeit tt v : againlf this ull9T
mflncnW law he- wat enu- J flldjng jt liablc () ,Utvtmi objeions
ttef itjpn W-tfilch iJiave (tafed Jiurvir,-1 Jikfhe
heTe' laws the turn of 6ou dols annual
ly, by what conUruciion. I d " . unable to
decide and now, ur, vi icn tt ep-norni
a'nee cf aii Services under t.hj bn all
treaty have wholly c eared, "we are aluut
to. fan e.?0ff-a mifcjanlb uftiou of out-lawi,
and ru.u'er. ptrmaiicnt the laU y.oi the
titrorneyGe-fcra! at 3003 duJ&.
But, firkin my opmion there is very
to reeoyd a iaetj whicli 1 donot conlidjrr 1 q rt.aU)n wtiy the iaiary ot that bth
as-txiiting. it holds out trie idea tnat rccr m0tiJd no Je h;H
the compehfationsigi ven by this bill were
flatflijbed in 199 "he tt&jM$M
convevs an iaea 01 tortnanrarvsana it is a
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greed by all, that the aclirrqu'vfton was .j
Hh it he t icittted
frojnjnwnpr
4a few remarks, upon It general $oti
I have liftehed with much attention to
the arguments of an honorable gentle--mar;
from Ncw-Yik,' v Mr. S. Mitchell) ...
oil jhu .ubjed I he fir It part of his re
mrks went to prove, that jhe pecuniary
compenfation generally given to profef
fional men is Very inac equate to their
fer vices. This argument, as a gentlemarj
from Virginia, '(Mr. R. faw fit to ob-
ferve refpectmg that of an hontM iible
f a' temporal y nature, and long fince Lather butinels
expired, ir, as a gentleman trom LViailu-cl-ufetts
(Mrlifitlis) has fa'id, the bill
tinder cotlfideration is fo perfectly correct
and proper, and its provifrons lo juff, r as
tpinduce" him to cxpreis his aitora'lh
mcnt that any gentleman -fhould oppo e
It tvkv Ipt mafk rsr.r nV-rrr.ii ir tr !J anil.
upon its o wn i n tr i a.lc tnrit, r.nd. n;.aiL
rehuc at the :ta. ot o.-'nunt, u will ! an(j very refpeftable Vnernber from Ma
be only puyuik him
which will noi u.uc
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tlemaii is called
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ptttabdity will
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m dtr very itvo
item dntant uatt
of talents and tS
til t 1 tV
proDaciy De leiccxeu
the feat of uoverftmen
abk 4rcumltaiicetnc oiftce. W;U in
creale his reputation. 1 ht lemons of
the tupreme ctmrt of the united -Mites
wil alwas be holden Iiete. Laurcs Oi
rempf m this ltraoge n5annsrr;to ingraltif:rhe firft magnitude from, all parti .ot the
it upon an actot his preJectliorsf Wvliy, imion, and which:
are' nor gentlemen willing to take uoi.n
thenilelvcs the rcfponfibiliry of their
mvn afts? If ir,eafufe ae adopted
which are ' rlcemcd popular, I percdve
no mdifpohnon in gentlerrren to 'claim
the "merit of the:;;-
hy then, let me
afk,do they wiliVia. this nianiai, rode-
voive. tne O'Mu.n or tiioie yfojzh tney
tbinJ; otherwi?ev upon rhtir nredecelTdrs.?
J 'dd.'nfrt-.cor.frder. ruyfcirelpofiole for
ill v;nich'tf us f-hvc.ln dqnefjy'tTiofe
whoh'e goheBetorrtr.e, and whom I
generally le'pijcl ; ,riiM had hoped-, fir,
it the quotatfon clv'es. cot give offence to
certain" gta.vk.me;-, tnat the ttme.m:'j.ht
havearrived v.hen li lhould-no Jot't'er
befai 1, pwlivkniiy, that 'tire fathers have
eaten lou?. 'grspes, iXu the children $
tecrharw' let on edge. . If therefore Kcn-
rien are determined to perlever in
h wilf 'of couile aflora
ine largeii -,ieeri-WHJ luere vtr iiudifa. t
l ire Attorney General w c may luppoic 1
will be ihe hrit perlon applied to, and the
ctficeity that way, wilbiurnim him with
much greater compenjation u.
ih&L Qlticers are entitled t:o.
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and promuk'ing it to the peopie'of the- legillating in this manner, I fhould iron-
u. orates, cut will the sentleman Irom naer ciyieir perreaiy-juinneu in votmu
MafJachufetts permii rfie to a(k whether, againif the pafTage. of this bill,, whatever
if ht; ;-nd his political friends, had been might-be my fentiments relpcfting its
m power at the time when the tempo- general provi lions.
rary. zci 'pfMarch. 1700, pafled, this Bur, fir there are other objections in
But,4lr. Speaker,-1 have another ob
jeclion to the paflage ot the billon jour
table, of a fredal n;ure, and hot relat
ing to the quefUon,. v hether the falarie
are toohiuh or too low. -a
By thi billi the fum of 5000 dollars, .
is propoled to be given to the Secretary
of the '1 realury. In ail that has been
faid on the fubjeel.of the comparative
Drices of croviiions, and the exptnees cf
f living in Philadelphia in the year 7995
and "this place, at thepre;ent timej no"
gentlemen fay. that they are greater now
than at that time. Son-.e gentlemen um
dt3rtake to prove, that they are-not as
ifichufetts, '.Mr, la-gart) L mould be
glacftcrhave printed -.not" jo inucii for
the ufe -ofrifembersof this h -ure, as for
the benefit cf a cei tain-ela: I,' people
called clients. Buf tbe gepf from """
New-Tork addiv jhac pro eli:onaImen
take a part cf' their ' comttilatior. in
money, and a putt in 1 ?. Of tl-U la'rer ?
article, that.gtr.tkmcn .-a. iece'Vtc a
lare fhare, ai'.d 1 do i:c know bn he
has alto, of the fcruier but i c has ; 10
ctedt d to fhew, by a courle of ingenious
rcifcr;ing, tf r.T hih iahi; ift are tu ceijai y
to be s en-touo "'
mint - A few ytsaia aj.o, areumejiis in'ai'?.
buncailce were uTed, to prove, rb at ..;
falahes were tlientially recilhir , ;up- V
port a repub:iv.aii government.
I4i,cJKfyjLi fedbythiipentlfl7 - -
men tr.im -v. - oi k, - tor 1 no nut
iitlhU bill ?Vfquld there, in that cafe, w hich do not apply to the queltioi, whe-1
S?ve beenjuch tolicitation to record this therthe falaries generally are too hiah !
gieat. ;
By a recurrence to ti e journals of this
hoit.c, at the time when the temporary
dft of 1799 palfed, annexing for a limit
ed llmi to l ha oflice, thet Irrue lahryr
, which is now prppofed to be . iyeil, I find
the i me of that gent .'em an who now
holds" that v-ffice; an A- who; was, thea a
diftiakiiiihfd' member ot this hcu'e, -i-e
lcitation to record this tnertne tarancs generally are too mart
fact ? If not, why introduce it now f I he or too low. : :
gentleman lays, to ierve as the proc'a- 1 took the licerty on : a former day to
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propo'ed as a fubftitutefof tliis ahiendrTyol the Attorney General ""and wifli e tneiepy -nas ut-.areu to ine uor.d,
meat: and the" gentleman is goodW now to make myfelf iinderft)oa onhat ; !nat tbfc funinoxv propoled tobe' given,
jjt .r. 1 j.,k: .,a r 1 - ujr.i,..fc t is too ere?i cr tne nenornraftce or tne
uuxu iu Kivc uic lCAvc 10 carry n uomc uuicwt, diiwr i uupc, ni , trmt vvhhi i inay" r .
Connecticut. ' ; " hon to the gentleman --who now lull ms
A nother gentleman from MafTachufetts 1 that office, for I was educated in habits
(T lr. VarnunO ha added, that when th'ei ofr refpecl towards him j but I do con-
act 01 za or iviarcn, 1799, was reviveavfccivcuiai error nas crept .in, ana a rau:
and continued iinforce, by the aft. of conflrudion. been adopted, refpf cling
the i4th of 4prl 1802, an attempt was the compenfaticn given to thar.omctr j
made,, and, which excited forne uneafi; and wjiether the falaxy is too high or toO
know a, hat vet, Tils lentiirferts forrncr
j ly But it haw feenis very eaiy to prove
-4 .tta't high talarici afV tiecdrary trv befeiv-
eif ro C 'l men tnm the low and mid
dle ua'U, of life, and induce them to afJ
pi re to r -t fir.fi. ;tles vere Mf. Mit
chell rt !e ami ja!J . ;t he7 had not, con
tended th;it -6 p, -:-iwere neceary
fbr: this purpose.) " Mr.' Gl J pmedid--'''
H igh and le-v rare '-relative terms -I am
fenfitde .the jimctnan advocates, only
the falaries to be given by the bill on
yrur tabe hnt etntlemah may call
rhem low, 1 calllhem high andconft
dering them as high, 1 fay, that it is nov
ea y to prove, that high falariesvarene
cefTaiy to be pvtn to 'ippc'it republican,
ifm , and l do noknOy to w hat extent
they may not ulrinktely be raifed, to do
this In theVv Xrpublic. .many milli
ons offivies anniilly, are not thought
fsh. to be given to the Firfb Coalul, to
lupport his Republican Gov rmmenti &
corddi agaiidt the paEkge cf that lawil know hot how loon linear ppvifions
may be tnouy.nt necen ,rv,ro mpr or' her
fifler republfc, nrAineriCa. A c mpen-
cefs among the people, topfove-jhat I 'ipf we are' bout to fanfticn tharinif
thofe.who palfed the faff aft had ruijtd cc'idtriiftfon, and increafe4he falafy of
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the falaries of the, executive fcfEcers of j the Attorney.Qeneral ri?uch , more in
'i his is the belt evidence in the prefertf
cafe. Was nouhar gcntlen an a 0 m
pctent judgeMf hewas,: fhall we give t.'
a..publ;c ofhetr a greater fum of moucr,
thuftrieJiimlelf thinks his krvices are
worth?
lie cannot in cenfequehee receive a
greater f alary haail at fixed by ihe law
of 1 780 And if we perfevete in DaffinR
this bill, we fliaI place that officer, in a.
the go vet n men tan d,f;r , let hie fay that
it was luccelstully done. " I do net mean
ucceistut m any. ensct producea oy ir,
.butJfiiefsfuIJa.proY2nffJ'ihLWntron.
that the falaries .were taifed by that aft:
How itands this matter f ' At the time
when ihe aft of 14th of April, 1802,
railed, the Secretaries of State and the
proportion than we do 'he other officers
of government.
By a law which palTed September 23d,
1 780, the falaryof the Attorney-General
Was fixed at 1500 dpllars. By. another
law palled MaTcj-i,-:itai' in
creafed cao dols. making in fwc - whole
2coo dols. By another law afterwards
"Treafiirv were- eich entitled, bv-the law; daffed. an additional annual corimenla
: then exiiting, to receive as, a compenfa tioh of 606 dolsrwas gTahted
tioh for their fervices, the fum of 3500 ofTicer, for fer vices to be performed un
dollars annually, and no more-By force der the 6th article of the Britifh treaty,
cf the aft of April 14, 1802, they-;iv ere' which was to be allowed hihi during the
ifevefally'entitled1 to feceive the.funi of; tntin)iance of thou fervices. -Afterwards and
' ;ooo dolIars,"and yet, by fome political before the Attorney general had leafed ,
legeraemain, semiemenauempi 10 pr ove; to peri or 1 erviccs unuer me nntnn
f 1 hat th did riot raie thofe falaries 1 Siieh treatyVand while hewaslnjhe receptloi
fo is tire cafe, with Wpeft to every b- of theffurri of 600 dols,- annaally on ;ac
"ther officer named in the i bill, and yt. count of thofe ferrices, as we'ri as the 6
r this ameadmeffe: is to prbdaiintb the ther futris which I have dated,' the aft
pi-ople cf 'the United States, that under, of the 2d of March, 1 79 paJTed, and
fat ion has certainly been given there.
futhc ent fo call, from the niiddk unlhof
h)t. a Cprfica'n SoKiitJr, 10 lupporv Vy ,
bis talents, that -republic. At d w hnve
the more reafon to lear, that firhilar in
ducement.wil be held oat here. ?s ac
Cf .rdiiK to the remarks of the gent', maa
fiW Vrrginia, (Mr. R.Von. a former
day4 nothing is conhltent but keeping
ldlates,"Tn the afnJing ferie - for that
gentleman, feemed to fuppofe that gen
tlemen wno-torm$riy voted eg 'mt the
his fervices, than he believes they merit.
4-very delicate-iituatiQr;iiaii cgmperrpjeiem 1-ll,--ui11 iU)Wi vey cct,u ;
him to take a greater compenfation for ently vote tnem, nir tnaf. tDb.'e.who
I find alfo on examining the fameiour-
rial, that more than twenty gentlemen,
who were members "' ot; this home m
1 799,1 when the aft fo ofterrireferred to,
pafled, and who voted apainfl its paflage,
are now members of this hpufe, and not
One of them; I believe, on any, of the
queftioris which .have been, taken, re
fpefting this bill, have voted agaihft it.
Some of tnem have fpokeri in' its favor.
Gentlemen may be confilt'nt in doing
this,iiaLnd I dare fay t bey have reafons t
-whicrt, in their Own min d, juflifyiheir,
votes j what they are,' fs not for me to"
enquire. . G he gehtl?nan from Mafli-
gainftthat billj has i.uleed toJd us, that
11 geaiiema-iaouia cnange tome 0
formerly vcted ior them, would new a& '
Arery inconfiflendy to vp'e agaiM ihem
and to what extent this lort of confiff-
ency is to be cained, I do not knew, but
we may ebnjtfture from the . opinion
which has been here exprejled, of the al
moft incalculable value of the fervices
of fofne oficers, and their -claim upon
the public gratitude. V- :X- -
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j this fubjeft generally, am' perfeftly con- -
ient:o give ro iuc winters 01 gcvern
mennt, a reafonab'eand juft compenfa- '
tion for the fervices which they render
It is difficult to determine tbeabflraft
queflion what that is. . In my opinion
we ought, not to corfider. it in an ab- ;
ft raft point of view, but relatively on'y.
It ought to be adapted to the nature, .
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