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NE PU'JJ.iS'IEP (weekly). BY WILLIAM BOYLAN. AN". PzyMhlt haf Yearly. J - 6 trOLLS. FIR ANN. Pays'!' tn Advance. Vol. 11. RALEIGH, (N. C.) MONDAY, MCEMBER 22, i$o6. ; No. 558. MI ' V ; -. . L . "t nrr a ON THE JUDICIARY BILL. CONTINUED. ; , diftant court at confiderablc cofl "and lof of timcand leave the money incur red in jieceffary expences in th"? diltricT towns. rI'hs cxpeuce occafioned in oh taming a legal adjudication of caufes in i our urrjzm hunenor courts, is anon: rights of the poor ; of which no man eefl ors : 1 1" was more regardful than himlelt. nut if the gentleman would recur to the ex iting flare of things, he will find that if a poor man was ever fo much diffatisfi ed with the decifion of a Count y Court, and was ever fb defirous of an appeal, in many cafes he.cpuld cot get fecurity for er Mr. Troy ' wifhed nothing more than ccnfiderable bbiedtion "to them- The a fair and candid difcuflbn of this fub- j client vho is compelled to attend a dif- jcv. He, however, could t. t forbear tant Superior Court, has not only his j an appeal?' lor the perfon who becomes that he expected to meet the ! own lod's of time and expences to bear; fecuriiy in fuch cafes if bound to do and gui'iei-en oppofed to the princip e of : buftho'e alfo "of all the witnefTes neccfTa-T perform the judgment of the Superior. j fhe biil on the lafo'e, on that principle a-; ry to lupport his claim or to J ubflajitiate rCpurt, .and. not barely for the'. appear- j . IcMe,mernbaT railed by 'any-new queiliori j his defence. In many inftances this ex ance of hi principal, as in the cafe of ar? 1 or itibjed whatever." He could not hut pence is enormous, and often bankrupts : reft upon original procels ; and many. a lay mar t iiHut red action f this amende; the unfuccekfuLfuitor.-It is alfo hard j poornianhasDeendcprivtdofanacknow.. rrtent arwea;v3 to hrm at firtt as it did to upon i urors.w ho are cUmpe'led to attend 1 Iedged right becaufe he could not give the geinl man troia Rutherford, (Mr. , at a great diltancefrom home, for a con fidei t:ble time, and of en at a fedon when their arttntion is much wanted at home. It is-not only the lofs of .their own t ime ; they.ju.ller a much heavier lofs by the negjeft 'which' their bufnefs lultains in their ablcncev from hiMne, 'j lie - fame may be faid with refpedt to witneffes. Their expences are unavoidable, as the attendance iA thefe pcrfons at court is invcluntuy. jThefe obferyation-, jVir. T. fuppofed, ought to go in fupport of he" preamble of the biil, w;hich the gentle n.an from Salilfjury (not, to bcd'ureiiv themoll courtly flyle)had termed u falie and delufive." lie would aflc thofe who Walker) r.n a:rem"t to evade the fair diicoffion or the mjiu quci'tio.n before us , but as boi the -mlernen from O range, fMr. Cameron a-nd the gentle man 'from Salifbury, CMr. Steele) have disclaimed any'TtTcli iiitentions," he felt himfelf difpofed to-accTcdir them ; for he was willing to attribute every 'action ef thofe gentlemen to fair and honoura ble moii v es. But w hile we extend t his' liberality of opinion towards the'Rehtle- iswnc-tcyJliouJALremeinber thatch -qu.?.'lly expend' from tlietri to fcrBear to impure improper motives to the conduct or tnole w,io were tne inenas ana iup .porters of the bill., 1 hey lhould reco!-1 live fir removed from diilrict tont; J:ct that ti- .y rheni'eives lie at dealt e- i whether thofe evils of the preferu istiem i. . . i. i. t ivicjLn.-. i it 1.1 a 11. r. .-.a n. t iai yvopen ro uie cuaJge 01 :c.nm auu , cxiu in iui;cy ur nt iaci : xivy-tmsu '.ik ir ter !i.-d views. But he vvoukt for Dear! thole whotlne'at a cuitae' fnrn bupe- rtcr'iMin':ir;f;.n, and proceed to examine j perior Cotfrts', whet'tef the the ob.i vauerss writd. i-ad bren urged the preamble of tb" bill be to h; i)r );v?icd chanec'ia t r . . 1 1 1 . r . o 1 lecurny rortneproiecunonoru; a wneu this does not happen, he isdeterred from an appeal by the inevitable expetice and rdm.dt certain turn that attends it. . So much for the prefent court fyftem a lyftem which is calculated fo benefit and agrandi7.e the few, tbthe injury and pppreflicn of the many-xa fyftem which forms a ihorig ariilocracy in the Itatei Mr. T obferved that the friends of the bill before the Ifoufe met its opponents on unequal wound ; they had not only great talents an ayed again It them ; they nad ajjo to con-:.. nd againlt the fixed and im mo v ib!e pTrjcesofall "the ineni lcVs iroiu tiihrid towns and dilfiicl counties, and all thofe who were under their influence and controul. Nor did ihey expect a fair and candid dikuffion. j j udict?T.y. I del ot tne principles 'or tne Dm jjuurrty ii!ii nun i.i 1 uiu cajcli, ui Mini tAjcuimm k falfe and ; have not been decv:ved,tharlhev would VVheiher they have not wit- j be oppofed at every tu.rnty all ihermeans It wns'ii-)1: his iiite.it ion nor ais' wifri u LtfCUld tliefiardfhip$ to which perfons j that ingenuity amHa sen is could devile ; iu!-.v,' rhe rfrrtte'Men 'm . ugh the vvwe j h.ive been put cyatcendingtliLfe - upt-ri-, t!iey knew tpatany cha J !iic,i t;:.5y n.u. ; '&i nii.tu"i;;a'.joas o I.or t'ii'ii cA to -the 't triors 1 Cowed tnt'f ....... ... I H , I he merits whkl. attiibMtd to the r-' ! ls vaywiiiiag do allor kpey opLourfs ? T! e ucntlemeii froni halif- T.ury and I lilliO'. rt ii). h kru, w no'.htrg tf ihh diitrefs -tiicy biilk in the genial Un- en:iem;ri r. t u , ' ;t 1 I I tnou ro h:;vc beea-tiie-en rm;ene.j anu ijch' the gendem-u thtr,i urhavc becn. i - j liny tnjne i:-or. Vtnerab';' i.utes 1-avc dcfcri! wifhed Y h 'mi:c6Y(:k vr i:h they hr.ve 1; on Jdie trial byjur ; n r from value which they k-e:n to p:.;ce irge of t'i.e prciuit ly'teni woiild be. depieoa-cd i y ; i! thofe fiwreinfeitlts it is to pidcrvc tL.:i.M. a"s they are. -.Tie hiends oi the -..biil i'.;v: of cii::ricl tt.wns where no irfn-iwould iecrthtl?fs do' ail in their po v er plv.:it of th-. t.md is ever reard. A'ir. tv lupport iti zJki is a,bi!!. laid he, which wouTd-V.f!c, -li w'h?t principle of fiir fuits us. and which we believe w id nfford a remedy to ii;e injuries complained of under the pre'ent lylic-m. We are for 1 , the dcrv cuny or. cur riv; is, am! T:i2-rfe did 1 1 1 , 1 vm ol cur Jioeriies.-iNor fce (ttnv the . acfed ob!is?at;cn$ we ; re uiidf-r t sbey V.- injirriCLivon.; of the con ri'ir v n: in jp:i ih.'rgs. -we are an--a-f:Tiet!.- Ap-1 I. -iving :;uv paid the tri bj:e of fis iHivct to the heroes and n.. r. r . 1 '.:..J u cntu-uitn iti their-euiogy on tne trial by jury j h iving .adspir'edthat there is iiiorh'g ;o valuable i:i !:fe, or fo worthy of preh rv;ition as liberty , and paving vi-llded cvel-y.-thing'.ihat can be .('aid in i..vor of 1 he inviolability and l.tv;;idnefs c f t'he confiirution, ho -fhould proceed to examine the quedtion be.'ore the Jioufe with .this Tingle rem. irk,, that in n- V 'he thing would the bill before the Hpfe ticrnnate from the memory of tl'.ofe iilul'rious patriots, render lefs fe cure the incftMnabfe trial by jury, nor , infringe a fmje article of our m Vidua T bl'-coiiUitutioni 1 . . . . '. lie would inquire in the fiift place,' is the-p relent co ur t,fy I he m deject: v e? Tf it Te uekflive,rand he be ieved this and difhibutiv- juCie-e, thefc' diftrict town's "rave 'a-irdn; to have Superior Cou.t's'heid'in them in exclufiuii of o-u,J-ifi)oi) what principle of juftice orCommon rint oudit eie.ht cr ten c unties c:m;i! iie to contribute Ux tnorr 'wealth ?, Wny fho. Id hfty-two counties in the flare ic-mai;i tiibutary to eu-'.hf-" '1 he genilt-inan from Saiilbury has ta ken a t'reat deal ol pain's to iiifbrm the lloufe of the quar.ty of bu finds done in Morgan, Sailhury, lliHiburousdi, nnd rayetteville Dntndt Cfiirtf. . He fup r .1 l- 1 reformers wH he one ot t noie uwu ry thing ancieed to pull down eve lifhments befod'proUrate all eltab fpirit of innoviid and vifionaiy, could be made Abut wherever it fair .argument,, tlk V. ratic.nal n.nd ihg iyltems are ntcoiTJyons m. exllt" willing to change !"Vva,s always thing very different, faV he,re 15 the habits and niannersVy between this ftaie :md thofe,' of SSTcoPe ot if the' principle now propoft?Prol,j1 lifhed in out ' coin t fyllernVpeUaU good efTecl, then' it may bead a fumed it will' feaw the lame ?oiPr!: . here. "V ' ; ' The gentleman from Onyf A : CaracronJ has attempted to old fyltem, by refcuing it fromV ; putation of corruption. Mr. Ae'vf,jf heard before that if had ever beeil. u iitu iM.ii vui cuuns vscic currj HeihOr.ght the obfervation of the tleman impiudent. For his own palv no man was more oilooied tnan he va to pay the highelt refpeel to the gentle-' men. who novy fill our judinal offices?.1 Becaufe our courts are not corrupt, arc there na other eyds-m tne lyitein which call -for-a -rt meyJpjdLhe gei lernan ajtempt to diflhat if was inconvenient for people in the diflant- ceiiirics to ;;t tendthe Superior Courts as a.iiefei2t -effc.bhlliod ? Ur did he -arefcpt to ie- fute any' diet1 of the ol j-;ctijiis which had Letn ur-d f the j-.tekm ( flabHHi ment? H.e "hadailuuied vn-uncis which had not been touched by the friends of the prefent biil, and which he hoped would not be confidv-red as a de'cn'ce of thdillrict. piit.ciile. ' " WhsT. fuppofed it might be nereffafy to hiy f fneddng hip t he fubjc ct c f jury tii;;i. I heerit!cir.en oppf..(d to the psffage had iujiku:ntiy pantuyiigii. a full parii.iparion or theti 1 vantages' acci uii.g from .Superior conns, or wc ar tor nothing no tcmporifir.g mea lu.es- wiibnow latis'y lis , we arc em barked (.n the fame liitonr, and wc will link or fwini together. and he was ih:pp,tcMp give ins full af. .fent to every ihina ihatHjicy had laid in i's favor, '.nd ,m( ie reed jiior be added, lint the proposed bi'I docs iioronly pre lerve the trial by jury in ti;e molfrnple mannei, bm in a miuh morrameiiiSni way fhan at prefent ellabhlhcd. - hideed He would now nuke a few olfcrva- were lle tri; fhained itKthi; 1 iVV. WV.'U.U tions upon ihtf coi icclir !i of the pt'rci pie or the bill on the table. It h.nf ; properly obftived by the gentJeman trom Mu l::enburg ( Mr. i owrieltth'at i n i ' i L-y jurj ana) to or con biil, no peT'.-n in this re -for-rid-fo lirdv as lo n tlnn.r u-s ever -NoVi'dnk- be .fiuJd. ed which di tio.'J he ccnV ccntemplatid. -No! v - i,!d be taken for vnhk: ( A noon b; te idle; fait i the ll'afenicnt was open for the ex amination of any gentleman who wilhed to examine it. J Mr. Tioy laid, he lup poled it ws : it was, however a matter of little conlequence what the number of fuits is wb.ich any County Court fur nifhes to a Superior Court, fit the peo ple of that .ciunty find it afiardlhip to attend, they have a' right to. jdem-and a more convenient ad minifihn ion of juf-t'ce-.-1 If fucbpeifor.s have le's ihane'rs of litigation; they are the better for it ; but they "ate equally; entitled to conveni ence with others., Ir may, howev.er. be v-ou'd- be .generally allowed ) will the well remarked thahthe real on why there poled, nay he took it lor granted, that this is not a new experiment:, toe pr in- I tciun. onvOrare jiad laid-rhaitiiete the gentleman's Ratement w as a cor.reci ciple has been .fully' fried jn .out filter f ' no vzy oi prrfeivir.g .-he trial bTjmy one; he had, however, only read fuch Hate, South-Carolina a llafe fro.Ti .n its purity, 'but by raaining the'd parts of his documents "as he thought which Mr. Tl'faid he was ?ti 'u orw fine!:, principle. 'hisalKVtien will not be wouur?nfwer hispurpofe. f Mr. Steele a precedent, ?.s it is a Irate whkh has . taken lor kct; 'Does not the hi before tytiera pr o poled . t o ie .luDi:iiureCl in irs phice, attorn a mere t vr a.no mjpar-. --. tial adminiilration oi juries ? i he pre fent funerior- coint frtf tm ''appijafcd to T. . i r r r 1 , is iu nore ounneis irom many or tne counties, inane Superior Courtis, that the ci i'ntrlind it iiiconvenient, nay ah ndt :::;pofiible. taprofecute-fuits a: for crds. by i urei' a diftime'e from' home.-,-' There was -- jio -mean-fa? equal and feirpjniudp or ben. ins rrtirhe-jiiri).un:-!yi:ardar:'4-4w.:;t iv; u:i have hia'caiile decided in a Su- him '.-raclicaily detective. It - .... 4 I . '"Egreat- portion or tiw adTarTiiqjeiv - j j Vedvf'rmn "IfeoTnc: dtcr a"n ?Tsror - circle, n d a''extenfen of tHe ;pre!eiit cjry.")i'a':erit wotdd '.)be"'iinpi'O0? -Av-ukl pot air)fiijhat gcier;rl;re.l ton v enttiri-yvjji ,ti:.r' .n- uourtv wnere aTudge well ikiu- trrtfe(riprefi iv Courts -betere Jultices of the -Peace, as i: if he coukl as conveniently attend the r.it:;fnie;np!at: one as the other. But as the1. courts are l'.rc.oxiii' ured -at ' present ir is m re than a oriLon tne rauie. .JLnq pretntu- n.:iViij.r,iaiLcref litigation is wonn, ttf.un.' -' ,. pjrpr;C6uft;DkUiCts are' 'Comppfeof -dcrj?o: the tronbfe and expencei- Does irojii five. ' ten counCies ; ioine of 'the it To'.' low .then; that t.liele .counties do not i cofihties are from fixty to one Hundred -"-(.feel the opprefiion becaufe they have but - tv.5enty miles fuy n ihe feat of th o uridf "j: i t li imfine's )n;tlie. .S.uperior Coufts-as ' Court ' I hcfjtcjwn in which the Di.'trict at- pref-iit cflabhfhed ? ,Ir ' tjc?s. jjot- C;urr is held. derives all the" advantages 1 hpy a deprived of all the advantage's arifini: irom it; 'mony i brought from kf the ;-Snperior Courr fyifem ; they par Yxu'i'ous quarters and I'eft'there. I ; s conr-Uklp.ite hi; none "of if $ benefits. But' the Jinercdandits Irom i gairleman from Sal iibury fays that per- tne : tributerrhafis paid by; the furrbunvj: -j ib-ns ai-'grieved In the County A Court, ing couniies. rl he county in -which ithe i hkve the liht of appeal. fWill not all towti is fnuared lias juttrce-a'dnimift'eredillarguineiu6'r apply equally :V;-;at-4K:;je.hil-rhe citizen-; .ofbthtr to this courfe ? , The gentleman t'rbm Sal ibury talks a great: deal about-; the left us far.. U hind Sn improvement ?nd ! the Houl'e prono'e to preferve the, trial hi ihepioXres,of a liberal, and enlighten 1 by jury in thcnicft corvenkht'manner ? ed polrry.-rW'e jmay look net only io :- AndTow has the ""sentlctneh iTiewh that its lyltem 61 juii'prudence lor an exam- I it wili nor be pica-red in its ptirirj-f pie worthy our imitatien, but to the 'T"5id our anecflors v.ho formed the pf. improvement of their inlan i navigation ; j ft'nt court Ivltein, grafp all knowledge? to their patronage of the aris and Was no. odier.nicde of oliecling juiors ences ; to every department rt internal ' t'ian ti-!e one tliey lonned, to be dileo police-jwe may turn to it wiih advan. ! yered ? However difpofed he inighr be to -venerate their ;characlers. he could not be led to believe , that all intellect, i li ...... ii -i i . i f ana an intelligence tuea.wnn jnern.-j He believed on the contrary, that the provificns in the prefent biil were fuch as would. pfeftrye the jury trial pure, fafe a&d .urifullied. The gentleman from Salifbury (Mr. Steele)- has i.fked if ft would be expedient or proper to fend a Jdde twice a year into each county, t 1 i . a rage. Uie was well acquainted with South-Carolina, and with her fyflem of jui if prudence. He was well acquainted with many gentlemen of intelligence of thar flate. and .they all appro ved cf their fyltem.: He had been prelent in their coiirfs, and never Taw juflreebetterael miniltered "any.whtrej nor court .skiiTefs more becomincr dmnitv :t the liutirp. tne JbAY. and tne neon te were all wel aj tisfied with their fyltem, and fpeke of itTVfn it' appears from the ftatenient counUcs of ihediftrid hive io travel to a. with a . kind of ftae pride, as beinti f u- perior to the f)f terns of th?ir lilter tiitesA Shall we.thenj "laid-Mr. 'f'.drolli a n'ar o.Wrr-niorofrppt4cyTiOF-K:om;4uper-- ftinous reverence f or o-!d cltabhfiiment continue to 'grope in the .dark, viiiie our fier and adjoining Hate' is i bus en joymi? theiruitsof a liberal pbh'cy,'fhed ing iufl.re on her qtizenSjnd afiuniing a proud -pre-eminence in the union ? I fe thongfctjt.here.wafr namaik To( une quivocal of -the progr.'O; of mankind in civilization aod mtelledual- excellence, i . r i. . : as the exrennon or ineir cares oeyona the narrow circle of felf intereft. and di recting them to the refoim of . thofe fyf r terns of dpprdTiou vliich the ignorance or inattention" of mankind bgvs ;Tu&It-. ed to receive -the fandlion of tirhe and t he authority of law. For his parr, h e did not reverence any fyflem mc-ely frr its antiquity he approached not with iacred awe the hoary error's of our ah- whiehhe oflcrcdtb-the lloufe, that verv ic i.uiuics i.ciit; in iome oi tnem. king the gentleman on this'gi auhd. -J migfijjsjJautifii Jik femcesiiit not more: fitting that hefhcnild go into thediffercnt counties to hold courts," than that all the.people who have bufi finefs in courjjic-uld att'encl upcruhini at a great di (lance fromthcii hOrnesP'' ' The fame gentleman .'has alfo inhnb; ated that this is an attempt to legiflate t prefent judges out of otHce. He be lie?ed.:the gentleman did qualify the in finuatidn by favihg the Mernbeft qf the rrlTit 1 S flomkiit CJm .U- f . - i 1 nib III lihuarion i eached hi in, lie felt too. indigo ijaiu w ipiyy(o;man naa mere puv fonal refpect than he had for tne preftnt? Judges; nnrarfwliQjTvould be more ready to trrake their, fituations comfort able. But becaufe -he regarded them,
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