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, - - , T. hiTxTF1T7' J JniJlif MIME EErGHrrXNrCTPufa fNorrov RVA. Resolved. That a committee be appoint- appeared to make this a party question, I But will eenUemen serioiisW assert '' thi CU lu CiiiUliC iu.u uit c Ajjtuivuwj v - "'i-"'v in siaiuic wi auouiCl COUUiry, CmJlyPU gOUSE 0?.KUSEJJTATrVEJ. WedundtJij, February 18. OEBATE Ar resolution of Mr Broom ing lurmer provision oy law more ncnui uc ouujCti swuii w rac io oc ui wo nign construction, oe declared the. lawyoT this ly to secure the privilege of the writ of ha- a nature, and too deeply to be connected so as to make our citizens obheioua to its. beas corDus to nersons in custody under or with the rights and liberties of us all, to be penaltiesMf that statute bemir national HJbnd .poke at greatlength against hr Supreme court of the V. Sttteun issuing, introduces. J ""ulrnLatingindamoiifymgaU the wit tf habeas corpus, with leave to re sumed a mld to? ? -i:IL,.A .L port bv bill or otherwise. : . .. - X considerations corpus to nersons by color of the authority ot the U. States, examined under those narrow and tempo- law, how was it obtained He-enacting end the necessity of defining the power of 'rary views, which-party spirit necessarily statute we have nooeAod, ' the United oiucc ine uiscussioo nas as- states as a lederal trovernment. h,, t er aspect, I shall offer a few common law" ityc cive creditto declara. K 'been previous ured on the same Pb.ll or otherwise. , T:. sdadyade upon this fi;Kr; or respect 111 Thr oursticn. He thought Wilkin- ilr- JKson was opposeo 10 uic rc.mu- a.u. v.. u.u.uu u iuC uu,c, ine opmjons or one of the highest law au- f A ne richt at New-Orlcans It tio as 11 st:,od originally and he thought the m i point ol view, whch no other gentle- thomies- in this nation I refer to the Dpi 'rt bil .:-,-,7.rr,..i,;--;--amendment rendered it even more excep- man has taken it, at Vet, on this floor. njon of iudffc Chase in the ras- Mf th- WM n'LriV should come from the oiher tionable. The writ oi habeas corpus was I cannot agre with those gcntlemen-United States against WorralL 2 DaiU. few'1"06" and h 0!, xul in his opinion amply secured. Gentlemen, who maiutam that, in the arrest and Iran- 394. ,i r nll-ol mou'archv looked with indi'fv-whcn callc,J uPn hve not shown that U is P,rUlion-l Bellman and Swartwout, they This view of the subject is certainly suf- virithuoDroba'ion on the schcin .8.oweu secureu. i was iu viu iu av -v - bv ."'cul iu sausiy mis nouse that their secu- fcreocc or I that an action lor damaffes did not afford an vMduals. The privileges ofthe constitu- ritv for this .rt nrivilcn. i- ' of Birr. f .. . X-. arl, nuate femfrrlv.. (ienilemeu had content-- tioa are as much the inheritauce of the hum- ccrtam i anrl i. nt thf rt.r fr Alston snoKe at some tenctn israinsi - .- . . . . . . Li...j.i -i x- i .. . w.w6,, the resolatioa. 1 ne question viried and present moti ,KlTti004,lc evca man wiv Tn rei'ilUUOiVis caitLHaicu iuv bun oa wnat nas taKen puce at ix. fj T'Unjl 1 " . j , r . , ' " v.Kvvril WliVUUIt, ed themselves wkh declamation and denuh- blest and the most deprived, as ot the most this legislature to comment- an nm.iirv in- waa more ciatioo without condescending, to investi- elevated Or virtuoucitizen. To be stizrd to the naiurc of ihat.aecurity, and the addi V,rai vQ gate the mertts ot the subject. by a militaryJoroe, to be concealed and tional provisions K requires ? This at pro wve an eK Fvc gentle me uprose nowr at nearly the-hurriedbcyoiid the protection -.f the civil sent is the only qiltslion.. feet. ArlliS. Wh 1Jurl6yeari same time and ail appeared extremely dU povvertaffcl to be sent a thousand miles lor Cut gentlem-. n ask' what need of fur- this cS'tct the house lain still for jorl nor fniinrl rnt hfcirp. ia the jnaioiai. system, ins ua will also h ive an effect on pro. citous to deliver their sentiments on the Sub- trul la a place where the crime tn-rged ther penalties ? " Ii ilJC juctet rt fusts the ject. ine speaicer thought Mr. JBiowell w uui luiuujuicu, i-jiuinuiy cuuceivc, aic writ, is tntie not impeachment ? " Acainst was h.stup ananttlea to the floor. viuwuwa ui iuiviuui ngtua uu ui uic ine perso illegal imprisoning another is V Aft--l "lilt Mr. B:clwelhsp.k;; at length againstthe constitution. I am not, however, prcpar- there not an acii;;n for damaces i 1 answer. Li.rt trhkh mav be hereafter instituted, motion, ne ooservea mac ir nau ,wo 00- - V -7- ' :- sccurues lor the personal li- r J .n,,;,; ,s wiJer than some eeutle- jts in view and both predicated on recent oeparoonea; nor, win me genaemiu irom Uerty ot the cii.zcas existed, and do still v"r . i i.u- .11 ut.t,r 1,- -tuir. tion met mm uf a committee to report a bill. It is leat"nt 30 late now, to act on any report, yet it B th members l the resolu- virgmia rvir. uanaoipn; that in no case 1 exist in brigland, as luily as thev do hen : with his dhapprobutiou. The would consent to indemnify a military cum- yet was it ever before heard that these were time was improper. The arpru- mauder for making uch au arrc&t. A case reasons against euaciiriR that celebrattrl sta- , the lil have an imposing appearance on lution and bias the public mind. Those m.:n who have h retolore been in noam-jat clamourous for the liberty and ments bil ;nts of the gentlCman from Delaware might xit, whe it might be the duty of tute of Cnurles or vc re ever urged s cvi-' re calculated excite unpleasant sensi-: aicgislature thus to indemnify, I agree, deuce that its provisions were needless, on ities in thciiouse and to alarm the nation, however, that it must be an extreme case, useless?, The penalties of that statute are There were on the table a great number of sad that the parly to be indemnified must guarenferi lor the libertsei of the citiz-n, reports ind bills which awaited the decision cvide-uce that he had himseii no vomutary addiiional to those, which result from'tho ot the house and it the rtsojution was pur- agcacy in proaucing that state 01 tiling taw awl the constitution. The principle which made such an unconstitutional txci - of that statute is. to m Mz.-A w;u 7 " - wmi4wv V Alt 6: x f r . r it if." nil nnininii iiirf'rriin'r . I . a 00 was. -to protect mine ruuiv qi treason, - , . . , . . r ir.n tl.. . ' "" ---r-; -.'. v anl rAn.e th.mfrom trial and nunTshment. Mr. fi. deemed the laws relative to the touuuciu, cuc- , k.u,u. , ucuu Shortest time possible, lu this eud all iu ...t ... - T-u-... : 1 xsuea as ncrctoiore au tnra lwinorcani dusi- Mr A fciivhcIcTof thts-resolVli"6"-0 10 the. ncxt$cMi-cist of power, necessary to the safety of Ufe thing short of the actual liberation of the I. -I s... ..f.i LuUik..... whirn rianrii-nrfl at ix r . t irif an navr no ... I ' T. 11 i Mr. G. W. Campbell saidhe had been ,(JF! eoijiu j'1'cmch, uui uc muugm -rr .-.-..w. i"";1"" " wianoi leave a cuizea 1 .1 rt.A.. -.tr.-n..: Drovision sUfftrtsted bv the pentlcman trom other relation to the suoicct oclorc the to lancuish in nrison. in cYncr.tatinn nf K misrepresented frefemfii to Mr. R.n- Delaware unnecessary, and if ncccsttry, he house than this. 1 .icy i.-v turned the result -ot the slow progress of legislauve 1 . . l I -j iu ...i.... 'iirini mm m rr . rr 1 ur 1 ri i.ir 1 us 11.1111111 n iiihi.i.m a u. r t ll ui , ,L,fv..n tr. . v Sihjuiu opuouc uicir auoauou, m mis uarii- Q . - mMuiaiLiv-j, vi ur uic wurnose 01 uuimate- UvlI'll 1' lib tlflU 1JU.TVI' UUUI &.U W 4fw " " . 1 , 1 .i . . . . .. . , - . , m . V . l. 1 thj. n-jtiirn Vt rhi- Civmriff tflf IVMtrUC j. I., ....l.r..! L: 1 icntc his vote hy the precedents of the a- tu'wwlsl' . , , . r y H.yiag uim 10 receive a neavy com- lien and the sedition tiino He believed he arguments m ravorci ine resolution, h ui "l" ptusanou in uamages. impeachment is himself as sincere a friend to liberty as any arc fud"td on what is called a violation of with other reflecting men, it lias become always a dubious, and an action for false m-mbtrwhatevcr and he hoped the con- the constitution, that is, a violation of a our duty not only to undtrsiand the nature imprisonment, often an inadequate securi- y .. . . . r :.. 1 ...u:l, n of that Kwriiritv. hut lso to suonlv. aS soou tv l'.,r tUn n.m-in-u f .t,..:. ..r ui rtitation would never cteiiend on a man Qt w' owlul,,"",i ' s6,u " a""- at"3t ' 1 , -1 T ,. v wm u iwku j a oic-4-.ii 01 uic euub' iiunuii. i 1.1c tckjiu- v"(-uti wuai viui4iiou 01 luc privilege ot this writ can never happen, unless in sjieeche8 of one day may be read as a an ser to those delivered on another. Mr. Masters opposed the resolution. He wuld not conceive how a refusal to obey a nt could be considered a violation of the tODstituiion. 'Why, said he, this extraor dinary leal" for these people's rights who wintto destroy your .own rights ? Have no oilK'r people any rights. The only question is, have this people times of great parry, violence. Iaaucli decision of principles, and then reierred to the privilege oi the writ oi ruoeas corpus times, what hope of an impeacrjment against in eff-rve-tr-cl tttiarrinjtion. iisii.cr '.i . - - .J tion: if ap-rei-d to. r,u.-ht to co in the fir-Kt CCVcr 10 it. lumsiimi wiinoui ariruinent nu wuuout , ' -v '- . . . " . svstea, whose conduct is at one time dif- . . , 1 lcwulc 4U,"1C fi..,. f . .u... .1. i .i,,. decision of DrmciDles. and then reierred to I . . 1 .1 r .AiinKiiTl rn m nfntMF -i--fl1ti-1'"fll:iHi.' ........ I .1 It- - . a select committee, lor tne arrangement or KX-y'1?1 J -"---" juuq(: wnu auusc nisutnority m coin detaiU. ix s the constitution intended, and a wise and cidence witn the views of a prevailing par It has been said with great zeal, that the pruden; men ought to desire 1 1 ans wer un- ty i And as to damages, is personal liberty " constitution has. beca violated, and if we equivocally, 'they have not. , S ) far as re- to be etimatedtiy money I And if it were, sit still, and allow thoss violations to go Iales to cases udder the exclusive jurisdic- what- certarniy Uut the person guilty of the on, th coustitution will-W eventually sa- tion of the United States, w have virtual- illrgalTrres. will be competent to pay the crificed." k ly no writ of kabtas corpus. And tor this. $lafaages recovered t la the case o? seizure. This is a twoedged sword, and cuts PQ reason, that we have none 02 the saaby a military power can it ever be expected both ways. Unnecessary alarms are ex- tl0ns of tn writ j we have uouc of those from the universal pecuniary deficiencksof Several pentlemen were risinff to speak CUed the, tcelmgs oi the people will be peuaiucs, wimoui wnieu uic wyi ui iwucds me soiaiers, that damages will be realized, when an adjournment was called lor and Wuhieand they wi ft. be at last insensibly corpus is a . deao letter paracuu.iy in.u cirried to reai antl dangerous violations of the con- aes, in which the state ot pany passions; "fcterh ifsrlnrnl Stitution. y or of W predommant power leads to the . - w - 7 " i w nv - . r : 1 ' : 1 1 - - . . - nnnmcstiin f an im iuii iiii. lointemtourteelings a case has been ; -.4 vi.' ' Thnr.Jm, V.hru,,.,. 1 Q. X I5Ut. of a memher of thi, hnut, hrlntr . "c r,v w "tJC 'i'" "V l"1 even should the civil arm be competent to enforce an execution ? The penalties affixed by the statute of Charles, on the coutrary,- assure the obedi ence; of the-courts and officers of justice. Orleans t"s,bvThith it is enforced, and in which independent of all party iafluences, which Tl i , t 4 . rretfi- htr inrrp mrt l.nl tn Vw iic i uuse croeeeueu 10 cons mcr ine . u .i,..:c.r .u. -i. -, i . - .r . .,. - ----- t.... .L .1 u l iiie u ii utucuk vi iiisiJi ui-Kv. kumnn. uiiv iidtjcii ui nrpvi i in rnp narinn ani uai even in uiai case mere wouia dc ny "... . Y y t- j 14 . .r, Ad action for dama--"sc imDS ,n meir nature, i nc secure personal liberty by pecuniary perils, iormer was Known to tne jengusn common susoendea over the heads ot men. whose i -ft . . . - -. . " motion of. Mr. Rrnnm A vp HO nMin .17. -Mr. Burwell said he shonlrl vot fr ihi- need of-legislation. Rutinn luit h- Kn- tk- i,...,c- Res and an indictment would grce to amend the-resolution before the mcan question was put He tlioucht theie exist- U' Tould tianecessitv of definintr the nn.ernf the.Jucn as tQ iay tn " " not Competent sopreo court of the United Slates in issu- Sivf relief. A jury are not more liable to m&the writ of habva cornus. A division P.r.cJu.dlce ahd- RVtiality than aJegislature. " "jjinjn on tnis sujjt phce in the court. Mr no nnwc.r tn i had no original jurisdiction.irrregard public mind, which will find itsway to J .the subject, except in a fcW'cases sped- JufX ' . "- designated in trtefconstUutiori. If It has been repeatedly said, that Wilkin- redress aodof punishment, Mr. . ' ana.aunouSn at ais oi uagiisn situation in society is such as, in general, not disparage the trial by jury so hii9fy TT-wa a 7?? f'Smes the attainment of the penalty certain, j. J "" - . mm. vw IllkUl.hUI W WUU .116 ,tUUIC. V arrecunties given :countrv-mavT6ircomfrffclort"tie FoweLcootended for, the consequence is bcn repeatedly said that he had violated the i;k. -.V.v-. i;- Afw; .u:-u t iww a miu ton Iinf! in anv nartrvf"th 1 Tnit. writ of habeas rnrntia. Mr. iinf!rtrnrl ' . . - . . annexed - In this. discussion it has been my wisnto . . W.nilf? a nilMimn li nrnniniv in th raurt ct nad lately taiccn . n - r-"w& 7 . 11. believed that ft4s mPr ,l,e.r for us to .take up the sub hu. th.. rW Kt Jcct wr 11 wll produce an impression on cacious against aroitrary power, until alter those who oppose the present motion seem thestatuteof Charles XL called by English- to me to be reduced to this dilemma -ei." men their second Magna Charta. NThis ther they must acknowledge, that they are statute gave penalties unknown to the corhcogtent that the citizens of these United mon law. .If a judge refuses to grant, or Spates should possess less security for their an officer refuses to execute the writ. ! he is. liberties, than the suvjccis of the law oC liable to a penalty of 5O0. sterling, and si England enjoy for theirs ; or they are xt rl milar sanctions annexed to other, neglects duced to the necessity of adopting the doc- - r 1 '1 1.1 . 1 . t ,' 01 ine precept. 1 nc nousc win ooserve, inoe tnac ine statute penalties ox another Ut aUininypmcUnit. writ 01 habeas corpus, Mr. U. understood exist kt common law, and are not s Ptes may be bi ought up to thereat of he. fact to be otherwise i that Wilkinson cd for them. These penalucs are, r- wliumu 4UU reieasea Oy tne Court.- u uever rpiUSCCI OOCUlCnCC IO a Writ OI fnr Hinnlirlnrirf to tK. writ, nnt 1 in in avoirl nil rx-tfir- rl" tK- Wirrw ne ee. lh5 g,. W1d;attendcdubeas corptis .He haduly arrestdJ men demnification for the mjurv. All the other invectives which have keen uttereUT The mgjxVfmtti forwithesses : Ueg and uknthe responsibility upmeaiesgauisrthW -lT""-"' - uuumcn All .-.... wt!.-. wu3iutluiv iiiKMi imrtiienninir riliin iinim.vir ' unlh ..l.ny. nol n,.. .n. 7F rvi.?r the ua! m-Jy "Sertesiimo. explamed the distinction,. and;t6sisd. on , - wajc yi cornus. iir. i. us toiicciDtss ana imDonancc.w nr con- k.. .. :: . ... k u i .1 r.: - --ir rjvrted hi arcument1 at considerable tendd that -at NewOrleans there had been--1 .u Jilt kit - .... c.- ..u .ri r .u c4u " lt'nJmJcd With offtrin5ana.nocfusaltoBraiatorobey4 - - - .r- , .....vrU tcuute m cngiana its trnaracteristic seeu- Jir. uregg rose to nwve apQstpotement another thing. v- ' ' ritvMf the constitution had reenacte'd thf the resolution indefinitely. He thought ... , ' -a Cllt Which Wat arrr--r1 t A -o t; pl , --- -e'.Ky ne it-solution as amended is as follows, ; ?mtu4ejH iking'in italics.- . - IVIr, Ciaiocy. $a long zx aa intsatioa statute Q Charlc3 there could be no doibf the propriety of the motiiiwK.i -Vi. -3- 7 . - .C's ' '1 v .si a: r V- 1: . ' . - ' V it s t . .. . - - 1 " i 1 .j
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