v t ; ' i 1 I . u I 1 f ( . .V- V it It i '' L I j. ill , 'l:!X T " p MUSHKD (weeki y; y WILLIAM BOYLAN. ..' ... " r-To,.a.. x akh ty .ysW-ol' lV lear.y. , ; - '. - , . - ' - t . T - . v-. . .- : j P-ay.air m -i.hXtn'e. : v u - '' " ' ' m. ii i .in i . i, m ., i, .ii n,,,L, ..in , 12. RALUGW(N. C.) THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 1807. No, 6o3. the apropr aiie,n aln aoy made would hot no- die war department there were sufficient sup- ' They had been told by a 'gentleman . from ' ver the additional expence. It was beyond all plis ot .railUary-Stores . ; m the navy depart- Connecticut, that in the banner in which they 1 I I A.taroM VA 1. r . I . 1 r ' JIOUSE OF REPRESE.VTATirES. lUr.sDAi, ioenriDer iu. f()i-pay and sulwistence of the marine corps, up to the President tor energetic conduct i he tion. God forbid, said, he, that we should fybate'on the billy making further afifirofiriati There was a cleat" power vested in 'the Presi- did not hesitate to make expenditures to sup- take any -of the principles, of the former ad 61 for the aujifiort of the navy. dent to increase this corps ; and as Congress-ply these necessaries for the department. Of-ministration for our. rule of conduct. The pre- ' 1 . I 1 1 I . '1.1 . - . A 1 1 ........ ,1 . ... .. . I. " 1 . . . 1 V . . . coNjiNvtc,; nau auinonsea nai lncreaseiiity cic jjicu Liit navy ucpuiuiicui iiicic was more requirea sum measure sioou on urm ground ; the .exi- cjuesiion, tnai as inis power nauccii ncuiiiciii lucre wyrc nunc, except a.iew pounusoi were now acting,, in. making appropriations, to the President, Congress were pledged to powder. . At this alarming crisis, the country they were justify ingthe measure upon argu cover thecxpenditure- The next article was, being threatened with war, the people looked ments resorted to by the former administra- M- DAN A perceived it was not in the ed to defray the additional expeni.es.. Pass-.than of the war department, because the but- gences of the times had "jtfitifiedlhe'anticipa-po-.vtr of the chairman of the committee of ing by ordnance and military stores; the last rage' had been committed on the ocean. tion,' and not the example of the former ad W'avs and 'Means to answer the enquiries article was for timber fo the Navy. He J'hat more prudent; more correct conduct ministration. ' ...... ; . . which had been 'made, because he would not could have wished that this article had been than that of the President could be wished, or ' They had,' been told by "a gentleman yester- vester- pirinit Inn-welt to indulge a thought that he something more explicit; he apprehended it wnat more couiu tne people expect, than that aay, that our navy had been disgraced by thh, posstw.l the desired information, and yet was timber for gun -bouts; if so, on that sub- he should have made these necessary provi-outrage. True if the officer of the -degraded- uiililiekl it. He thought that the want of this ject there seemed to be some question. la sions of ordnance and military stores, and tim- vessel, instead cf a verbal answer from .the information might lead to a mis-statement of found in, the estimate of the Naval expend'.- ber for-gun-boats ? The P re sldjtnt had judged mouth 6f hi trurtiet, had sem a inetal bn litcis; and iliougli he did not pretend to be in tures, timber for 73 gun-boats .;he did not it expedient to. make preparation; and the fromthe mouth of his cannon, the . honor, ot the secrets of the cabinet, he was inclined to doubt but they might be useful ; but they were stateof affairs had called foi a "warlike attitude;. . the navy of thU. i would haVe beeh preserved the opinion that a full disclosure would be ., not designated by name in the bill, and should for, said Mr. M. we have learnt from ou' de- -T-bat ofljeef and his conduct were now under more satisfactory to4het House, to the- Exe- they be found to be useless, the stigma might parted Washington,, that to .command peace" investigation ; but from the the courage, cha;- cutive, and to the people. It this' were made, be cast on the iavy generally. As respects .we must ne prepared lor war ; the president racier, anapatnotism ot the other othcers of tht-y would be denied the liberty of roving at thus timber, for gun-boats, he asked, had there iiad acted upon this principle, which the our navy, the country, tuight be assured, that uiij, conjecturing as they chose. But, said been any authority given to the Executive of House would nn doubt approve. - There was if occasion -offered they would retrieve its rc fcc, au we not called upon to grant money, the U, S. to purchase such timber? At the no law at that time, nor had any law yet been putation. . , ami- shall we not know for what purpose? last session of this body, there was before tht passed, to authorise the purchase ot tliese af- . It had been sad that the government .had rc Dues the President jctdj upon us for an appro- House a bill authorising, (among other ob- tides-, but the, President of the United States, ceived two marked insults from foreign powers; priation, and shall w'e not have leave to en- jects) the building a number of gun-boats, but "when his country was in danger, hesitattd.noL.he presumed one case alluded to was tha.t. of the quite What expences it is intended to cover ? which failed of success." A motion was made to take upon himself the credit and proper-re- Spanish minister; if he. was wrong in t his idea .he The vcrv act they were about fo pass was tie- by himself to strike out the words for build- sponsibility. .Upon these items:, what was the wished to be "corrected; "Thii nurdTuFITegari to s claratoiy of their approbation of the conduct ing gun-boats," so as to authorise the provi- lan iage ot the I; resident of the U. Stat-s, shew his Spunish airs to' our l-.onn.spun govern-. of-the Executive; they were therefore enti-sion of timber foi gtiwnd naval puifescmitariTeuv'in'" the" ntessn'e tkdivered to us I nient he .Vi:as.uifonned that a demand -would be tied to information on the subject. As the re- Against this motion he foiind a long list of Strong and forcible, and ck-aily .-.shewing t tie nia.de for liis recal. ! t it should be thougiu that I presentatives of the people, the peculiar guar- names, for it had no high authority to recom- necessity for incurring these expences : " i he am incorrect in- thi-., said Mr. M. resort to the ilian of the public treasury, they were enti- mend it. They could have the whole number moment our pear.e was threatened, J deenied Department of :lute, where the facts ni jv be tletT-to'it. ' ' of gun-boats that were necessary, built in one it ir.dispensible to secure a greater pr-imsioit of obtained. . What was the condutt of this ci- -" lie believed that no blame should attach to month, even if it were a thousand. Tor him- those articles of military stores, with which mini-ier? Did he dare to persist in bis jnso tae Secretary of the Navy or any other per- self, he was now clearlv ir tavor of timber for cur nngazines were: not sufficiently. furnished, lei.ee ? No ; he hiti-.niy solicited ur,(tovein son on account of this expenditure; but in gun-boats, not because he considered them an To hve awaited a previous and spcir- sane- mVnt not to write on. or .represent his conduct every case "inVhich . money had been expend- adequate deiV- - for th U. S. hut as they tion by law, would- have lost occasions w hic'h. to the Spanish -government, ., Our KOvriuncnt id Without order7lfhiL least that could be ex might be usVTuT in om.: eases to" a certain ex- might not be, retrieved. T did not hesit'ale granted his solicitations , iftlvev got rid of him, it pectvd was a fair distlosueof the circumstan- .tent, as a subordinate part of a system of de- therefore to authorise engagements for such was immaterial in what maiiner After he had , ; cesi-arHding the tansactioitjxCould 'not the fence; this was their true character. Hence -si'ipj-Jements to our .'existVug stock as would thus obtained tys point, what was Ids conduct ? ExccutirKand departments' trust to the can- it was that the erection of gun-boats gave so'rcndur it adequate to the emergencies threat- He came within the city of Washington, con dor and liberality of the House ? Did they re.-nhuch amusement to mischievous tongues and ening us: and I trust that the Legislature -trary to the understanding which bud taken ' fu'K; to confide nj the House ? Mr. D. was de- editors, when considered as 'forming in them- feeling the same anxiety for the safety of our place. Did the govern m.entthen .put up .with. Ilst information, which he selves a system of defence lie was clearly country so materially advanced by this pie- his behavior : He'reteiyed, on t dounilniore to the credit of-n-favor of pursuing the same'plan as that for caution, will -approve when done, what they "an ahtimation that his company m m thalTthis silence on the which he had before voted ; and the gentle-" would have seen so important, to be done, il pensed with. Tn the-course of i h sirofis ot tne tulles thought would le the administration (.u.(iujW,hvi I.UU1UJUVU uj , SV lliai II ...-, IIUU CAkllCU 11IC OClUM.cll'V'ii Ul CVl.IV - nioney destined for one object was applied to rherican; one sentiment on this subject per- : another, or money unappropriated was ptflir "vaded the Union; The President of the Ci ed to any object without being previously au- States had adopted firm, energetic and digni- actually paid. The President had s,ak!, thorised by law, this doctrine went-to disallow fied measures on the occasion ; amongst others he had authorised engagements for these fit!. t- .... .... ould be d is le w d iys he subject-'" 7 . men wh had condemned the measure ,pro- then assembled.1 ' slui.k opto Phnalt4;'i'.a ' Under such ciicum- Waving the right to make these enquiries, posed by himself last session, might vote jor Mr.; M. hoped his trust was well founded ; stances, he pivsi-meH no American would. foil ho thought then two questions occurred for the same now, as it was backed by higher tkat the legislature, feeling the same anxie- the dignity of the nation injured in this case consideration. The first was the greatvbroad authority. ty for the public safety so materially p.romot- In the other case, it haJ been said We bad . question, whether or not it was properfor , . 7 ed by this precaution, would declare that this received a blow; and a blow only? No; Congress to make appropriations to cover ekx .. Wednesday, N'ovember. 1 1. . was what they would Ivave done had they been mureUr had been committed. The reeking ptnditures of public money not previously au- SThe question being on the final passage of iii session.- He asked, had the President of blood of our fellow-citite-ns and the insulted thorised by law. Prior to the year 1801, ex- the biil, and the yeas and nays on the passage the-United Statc3 passed ovec this great c- dignifcy.of the' naMon called for satisfactory re Pnces were 'incurred without the express sanc- beingcalfod for, ; rnrrp;(;nry. rnd failed to make these pre par- retribution, or speedy retaliation.; If retribu tion of Congressi-, they were incurred with a Mr. ipNTG)MERY said, that as the ation,ought he not to'aWt?eirmisut-for-tin is-tx-fused,-then theoiistiictionv did' not view to the public service in case of emergen- yeas and nrysxhad been required he should a neglect oT duty?' As -these articles-there- -vest the. power in the President of the V. S" cy. It was then discretionary with Congress exercise the right of assigning reasons for the fore had been pifrcsed because the interest to resent thcTinjury i it did vest it in the IJon either to anp"roe Or disapprove this conduct ; vote he was about to give, This bill provid- and safety of the country required them, and gress of the U.. States. Ifs.uch a crisis should if 'they approved it they passed a bill making, ed for extraordinary expeiKes incurred in the the expences had been irit urred for the pub- tak place, thsy would heet it with e,ntrgy an appropriation to cover the expenditure.-i-iiaiy department since the 2id June last ; lie safo'f, the House could not hesitate to and firmness, and Use cery exertion to efface In 1801, from the highest authority, a doc- these extraordinary txpencts hd rtsulttd give th.-ir sanction to the appropriation. , the insult. trine the reverse cf this was avowee! ; that it from the cowardly attack comnVUted by the It had been asked by a . gentleman The present .measure now under ronsider was a part of political prudence to discount?- Leopan! oji ll;e Chesapeake. This act, mark fro'ni. Massachusetts, whether these articles ation. saitl Mr. M. is the fust dehVnsiw me a- . - nance and disallow all applications of money ed with such dariuir and atroi ions circumstan- were actual)' paidtfor ; if paid for out cf w hat sure presented for our dt te-rinination. If we to purposes not authorised ty law; so that if ces, had excited the detestation of everv "A- .monies had the 'pay mem. bten rc.de. ' As a .give thii measure- a - quibbling, querking. or member ot a' committee of ways a"td metms, reluctant aftirmative, the people will be disap- he eould declare tb.it not one .-'cent, had been appointed m their hopes. I have no appre- that hen sion that we shall do so ; I btliev the tnese ar- contrary I , have no' doubt duLl, that- the it. In 1807, when public expectation was di-. those which had Occasioned 'the expences for ticks : the government was pledged for tht m; natntic characters here . called together rected to the Executive, jKhad been thought vvhich this bill provides. -Tie had heard no and the House were as strongly called on by on " the exigency .. of . the moment,' and ' proper to incur certainexpences for ensuring complaint that the conduct of the Executive faith and honor to make an appropriation for to w hom is intrusted the honor of the natio' the public safety.V public officer, who, in a was defective either hi prudence or energy, them as they were bound to do in the case of will realise all the wishes of th'e pebple inoment of pujjilc exigency undertakes to pur- He was authorised, and he exercised the au- the mariv.e corps." . 7 . ' , Mr. 'M.ccncluded by saving, that, foelin' "crjs.e:;SUppWs, . merely on' public support. thority vested In hhn by hlw, to call .out -the .. -Mr. M. said itlVad' been .aWed.' by afiOther coriscious "of the rectitude of 'his intentions, as If the legislature condemns the nrocedure, marine coi ns to. its fulfeomnfofent.-. He had eentlemah, perhaps from Goniiecticut, whe- for as his feeble abilities would permit, he had theolficer must bear flii", loss. - Wrtnld vnn pvprrkprl thf niithm-itv o-ivon -in- 'him- hv thp ther the timber mentioned: was for ireneral ch?cbarued his dr.tv to his country, his consti- MrD. had VOii' been assembled at this act of 1R06. in nrenn-inn- f he. in-un-hoatii for iiaval nuniost'S, or for eun-boatS onlv ? At tuents, and to himself": .' - xinic, with a knowledge of all thw existing tir- service ; the stiis&of the nation and the exi- this important crises, when .hostilities Vere ( debave to be cosriKCEn.j V.. cmnstances would you have authorised these gency of the times called upon hi m to do so. meiidced, it had been thought prudent to lay. expences to be incurred.? This was. 'the : fair Other expences' incident to calling out the up a stock qf .tiniber for . building gun-boa' s qvion, and was presented to therri under marine corps and manning gun-boats, ;were and it was accordingly 'done'; .but in laying it ivnoraLle circumstances for determinaliorTfit comprisecl undei: the different ariclcs of cloth- up, it .-Jhad been contracted fory and .prepared' 18Q1, this' doctrine had been contradicted dicing, kc These e:traordinar:y expences the in such' a manner as to answer -any naval pur fiVowetl ; it wa-s with satisfaction he now ob- Prcsidentiwas auibm ised to incur ; the state "poses ,. If our difierences- should;, be arnica-, served that practice taking 'place under high' of the country justified, himjn exercising that bly settled,. and it was not required that gun authority which h&cl before been denounced, anthorityvand ISIr. M was of . opinidh'thattJie boats should be erected, the materials would He felt highly gratifie'with his change, and hoiwJofthe nationcalledunon the .House to ...still be on hand for the rise of the navy, certainly would not reproach ecntleinen for it ; ma&the ".appropriation.. Thetv as to these .'It had been stated, he believed, by a gentle.-- they,had foarnt.wis4o-by.an experience of 6fe.-extrabrdinary expences which- hadbeeri Incur- -man fronv irginia, . that, -appropnatis" liad. mittees, .vit.: - 7 years; which Ixad tttnglit- them-the error ofored,herexould hea,t!jmc:u Finance Messrs. Porter, Jones, TIarden, .. '-ic-doctrines the nrmlcge of being, wiser was at stake for the pay ment. - There was held by the President of the U. S, . or these Harris, James Yancey, Washmgtou; Walters, ; in this day than five years since ought hot another item wlu'clThe presumed would meet the principles defended by film in his first comr J'IJ. B'ryan,',TooIe, Vm vWilliams. Grist, h denied;'-' He declared then, that asrespect-vith"axIUtle difficulty as any other: he: was -mttnication made to Congress in fSOl : Mroon, Glissen, GiHespier;RoIan(i and Speed. . ed the general principle he concurred decid- institicted to say,'as a member of the com- 'M. said, he admired the principle laiddown f pretentions is( (Jnevancis. Messrs. Aber-. v eillv with' the Executive. . N rnittee of ways and means, that thz-flKtvisiamLhj the. gentleman ; appropriations-hOu!d ne- hathy, Love, Forsythe, Letherrhan, Norwood,,, .7 nnA .,.tJn w nn th rLirtiriilarsriecified in the bilh were used hv the militia'-ver .be, anticipated butih exirrme-CaseW.. JfHe anhook, Maker,, uamet,.. Uaitaiti, ., 1 erpst - "V -v-v...u uwji... ... x.. w.- , -r-.-jy i - . .' i . l- . , S - .' ,( i -Subject t should- thev advocate expenditures .called' 'for these particular nurnoses, supposing that in danger t liV K nonfat 5t Cr---i t inrt - rr tt QllHlftP t ? House who would hesitale4o-uis.ke"an-aonro- taken tins Ground y ?As' lespected the-suhsister.ce for .seamen," re- priation of 3 1,000 dollars for thatjjurpose ? not occurin whjch it might be depart ed,fmrrpavIdson, Cameron, Atkinson. Jynru Ptn'ira, f.,v. vcc. u rr thv-H..nctifKlp'?fl'. ' --At this imnortant iuncture. When our couh- He woufd ask any gentlemrn, need there. sonilIudginswRiddick,' Jonas WiViams, T - - . jip:j,". ":w,. v.ntK trv wnsi'Msticfpr. rhfc- F.xer.utive had eSmu ist a '"strontref case than the nrcsent to' icsUiv HatBvlNTf nitre , LeonardTinieanis 'Sc.Duw'd twtdJxLcnuAtltxmhtir' of-aeamehr-bficd 'the igatBl-theytnueTtariment? ; m suoo a departure i- lie ueucveu not. - t i r..tyw . ,.t jicun-ntui9n . a i. 74 I . .V 1 v H0USEOFC0mi0X$ Wednesday, November 18, 1S07. The following; genifomen were appoint ed en the part of this Ifousc on the standing Com tiedin.JLhc bilhwere used hy the militia ."-ver be anticipate!! but m extremexases.. f He anhook, Maker,, uamei, tsujaitiv , eI;K,ris l out for the protection of the' port most principle was in general correct ; but he would" Ruflin, James WilliamsvE. Williams, W'.'VV. nger Wa there -anyemerjh the-.ask'th,e gentleman fjW-lrgnina, who --had' Jorit'j,. bha'w and 'Goodwin. ... '7 '.. evvho would heTitaleo-mtke ground yeu;rday,7if acase I ''- S '. -'r-- '''-:" -,r-'' """''' T " 'i''1 ; :.' ;:..;-u-. 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