i'-yMt hn.lt teeny. J
p u u Wished (iv ee klt) by avilli amboyl an.
Vol. 12.
&ALEIGII, (N. C.) THURSDA
Y, DEC
'EMBER 24,1807
POLLS. jri A '
ty able m Advent t. '
' .No. $12.
Estate ;&c0$lature.
EC USE Oi, COMMONS, .
Friday, Ptccinter 1,
DEBATE
, It is incumbent
mend a rneasu
.pediency
fcrson's public conduct, and particularly? f t lie it.-fiut I wiU proceed further. jHvill tit- no danger necessarily incurred in the vindlca-;
measures he has taken relative to the unhap tempt to shew,imd I' believe itrrtay be done, tion of its rights, and not of an insolent teme
py dispute between the United Statesanc! that for this legislature to votlany address to .rity that map irritate,, may inflame, but will
Great-Britain. ;' sf. the President for tire Elects comprised in the never obtain atonement, and will e van arate
ent bn those, sir, who rtcom- resolution or- its ajnendments, would be an when atonement is refused Was the requisi
re, to shew its.prupriety and ex- unauthorised departure from :hejr proper bu- tion of reparation for the outrage made a dis-
It is particularly incumbent on smess ; a precedent l-.kt I y to be fr -owed by tinct obrect, or was it blended with the varlnn
tyitht-Zdbteai to the President of the Unified those who propose 'an extraordinary measure, perniciouVconsequeces & at the present tno- subjects of the n'egociation so ilohg in train bev -
States, , f .-. v" "t suggest aT&ufiicient cause for its adoption.. -menpiuritiVlyinc'Xpedieni. Itisafvindamental tween the two countries ? Is there any one who
cwbern, was mane auer coiibiuituit. uc- place, 1 have listened to the gentlemen wiur is originally derived nom tiie people and mat xno air :n is yei a mystery, a prolound state
bate; and with anew mat me acuu eus ua the most patient attention, to discover, iLpos- the exercise ol an v authority not tleiegated secret. Aim are we to declare our approbati-
on tiie taoic uiyunn.jj Hiuiwm uiuv sioiev rne reasons 1
on wnicn tne proprvety 01 an.uv uicm, is a vioiunon ta ineir rignis, an oui w mtuica ui hiulu we &uow nothin"" '
)ted tJ be supnorud. rTwo ous usinpation. Our grunt, tl.o.igh "extensive," Dare we give our sanction, and pledge that of
andil is not in htv sufficiently specinc. lo us is delegated ur coYi&tituents to what both they and we are
r Sneaker I vew -much regret the ne- address js atteriit
. rrimnds me to aderess you.'-" only have been assigned,
C erfully would! have declined trespassing power to anticipate others It has been said the legislative authority over the state of utterly ignorant of ? I hope for the honorof th'e
our attention, if a sense' of duty did not that Mr. Jefferson is anillustriaus character, North-Carolina, and the power of appointing legislature and tlie stat we willfor bear this
me- W be wlent. - I find myself coiv and it is fit that wptiould declare to him the its principal officers, .Within this province premature anticipated approbation,
incd by the most- ftnperious. "obligations to admiration wlucflwe entertain of his exalted let us -confine .o.u selves It affords ample If the emergency be suchrs to justify a d,c-,
itnit to-you a motidn iftVcnt,from "any yet talents andeiniiient v irtues. It is certainly scope for the exercise of our best talents. .The parture from our proper business and to
SU "oo'ed caIculate..d.tofrt4ieve us from the uri- true tliarl do npreritertain this extravagant moment we step beyond its loui)dsf jye are ".and of tis a declaration -of 'our confidence in
"T'sant enibarrassments in which" we areHm -admiration which ne of the "'gentlemen has lost.in infinit.y we areiiable to say thus far the 'general government, it ought to be made in
Mved and entiUed by (4ir rules, lo a priority expressed. That the President possesses. U- we shall go and' no farther-" rhe federal con- such tennnat no honest man, no American,
decision. x" ' .'"lept8, that he Is not without his virtues, it stilution adds to our duties and to our poweiatftse to join in it. Could it have been
Tf(tl!l I hoe, sir, be distinctly remember- would fce uncandidln T me to deny. -But I am the obligation of appointing senatorMoCon- expected that either of the proposed addresses
rtkrf'three woeits have now fclanMrd since far, very far from believing that thev Tneiit the gress, and of directing the mode irT whigir would receive this united support ? Could it
iheorieinal resolution for addressing' the Pre- encomiums which have been poured forth with ..electors of President and V ie?-jesi
sidci
iheorieinal resolution lor addressing the f re- encomiums -wnicn nave oeen pouieci iortn wun -,ciccwn-ui rre&iocia aim v iuvciueivsnim-.Mv UiW a uun i im uuu.se, wno
"dent of the "United States waintroduced 'to. such unsparing profusion. I have seen some- be chosen. Whence tht:ivjeshfe pivro- f not, numerous, are respectable,., if not inflii-
"i notice.-'' t the requestrUher of its author thing to approve, and much to censure dining gative we are about to ameoT sitting in ential, are honest, if prejudiceoV are not defici-
011 ot iw 'p itions, its jScleratiofl has been his administration. But it is not necessary to judgment on. the condtfU opfie supreme exeunt in intelligence, .wojuld belie their avowed
I" t-oncd from (Win te. from week- to my present purpose, "to enter into an investi- entire of the un'mn--Vfiere is the clause in opinions, abandon their Rued- principles and
iveek. Vv'hetei -theptiiod arrived v.hich gatio!) of hi$ puohc conduct. Be it ndmit'ed, pur state conutipn, or in the federal com- icr uic sugma 01 tusingenuouaoess by con -
id -been as8Tn-d for it discussion, some op- to give the argument it? full, force, that lie is pact, w hiei; jjjvests u-wiih this privilege ? curring in an adhtf5S vyhich commends intoio
w'iunesic'kt-S3 nus always occurred ei'hcr'an illuitrioiis rodii that he has rendered his Can ipif .any species of approved logic br in- Mr. JefTersoii's administration? Can it 'be
ofihemoveror of his coadjutors to render country grent services ; is the .'legislature, of izp&Jk&ii the-nature of this compact ? "Sir, w,se,- can it by expedient in this national cri-
Ji.u.,.. nn.,n,,lnM rlerpitaiur ntfessarv: North-Caioiinu: tuerefere botitid to addressxhWuvtrnment of the unioit is iut, Iike the sis to throw an. .ngst us the firebrand of dis-
a wiuiv. pv..r. , . . . , . .y ..... . . .... . ,. .. r. . iwi,' tn ..1,..,, .!... : :.: ...l:-u
Vet this uhf -ruinate indispoMtion' appears not him.' CVrrv tins mode ot reasoning totji-Hupuiran tie, ny wnicn uie people m-vime- " ' c -"sl"JUC
to have prevei.ted-'their atteivirn to the other proper mark, and whither does it leadtf-- rica were once conn, cted, a mere cor, Curacy was hoped ;b every Incnd to his country were
business of the session. In common with the We are to address Vlr. Jefterson beeuse Tieis of states, t)ut to most purposes a national go--forever -iwned f-liall we add to thg ..chssenti-
rest of - minkiud. 1 hav: a accustomed to illustrious. It must then he omfutv to ad- vernnient. , By the people not by, tbe M-.tes, ous. which have agitated the legislature on t he
consider uniformity and consistency as strong (tress eve rv ilhi.-'iu)Us"niatf."iMunroe is was it mxlained and eUablished- I was to object ot the judiciary yte.)f thosejiort:
urools of desim, and utU-ly at variance with said to boon his return honte from a most im- secure their liberty,, lo provide for their de..!eit uisseHHons which arise frdm actional
actiti-nt. It'as inipossihL therefore for me portant and delicate negotiation. How he has fence, to insure their tranquility, to e-tabiish P'tics i 1 he sess.ou approaches to its close,,
not to'ausneet that this procrastination was pre- conducted it, andnat is its result, we. as yet justice among them, 11 to unite them rr.rre and vve have yet done no-hmg. W'ehave
meditated; the result of a fixed and concerted know not; butYf fortunately it should prove perfectly, that it was Lamed and rai,tied. Ii wasted much o. our time,- let us waste no
For som-' time I charitably believed that-he hajoehaved with hi mness and address, ODjecw are national w revenue is national y'Tr' pfh;.'. vulBWCT.H..u1CiuwiiSei.
with cuncrence and zeal, and brouent it to a us puouc iorce isnauouai. J. ir.. ..Mva. h.uu.jmouuiicjicu.
plan
that the advocates ot the address had recome
But if this idea be incorrect, ar.-l the letris- -td of us ; mr.ch -pught to be done by us ; there .
i.v r . Un c;-t.-n.ca-rprs;-frniis aiifl honorable issue, shall we not 111
-u:.i.-m:i .k' ,.i...Unn nf tklress him also? When members of Con- latere of--North-Carolina be authorised as a i-emara.but a Jew days to do it in. 1 fcarluat,-
W 11) v ullUVtvu fciiv.HK ta.j iiiivir u uiv iuvf x , , . 1 I - "J I
t- gress, secretaries ol state, governors ol our constituent part ot the union to stt in judg .u' ",ulIUU5 wc 'y uu uui -icium.
the subject and fondly hopeel that after pos
ponuie t from (Uy today, they would aUecMrth sister states,-gain the splendid appellationot meiiton.-t he conduct 01 tnc national executive, """' -u,uu uUll, y ueenuiu
onsent to nbstpone it forever. l2,d ot illustrious, will not they too prefer an equally butalittle rcfiliou-is necessary 4o shew "that those who sent us here. In the wort of
. . " , . . 1 11 c aa .i..t, i .u.. lfti.o thic r ohr c hmiiM w nvfirni't nn i- u rnQrc me ruuai we buau oe comneueu to acKiiow-
sir, now uniovmaca, no.v ueursive was inis cii juuiiucu uaim w u 'vwiw. . -j . . .
' ' ... 1 . . ... it . - .. O'u.. v, t. - li'i'.CP that ttp hnvc It-lr 1 in-lniK th IhnifM
e. It has been succecdedliy an apprehen- principle is adopted, I snouia numDiy suggesi greai ciiicigccj. . picccue-iu ie a- '", - -
mind has reluctantly vieui- a more ecunuimcdi ihuuc ui uiiyini n imu uui m u ..n.. & y -
postponed
as "for a loi
on. It was n
say
hop
6ion to which my
ed. Triow fear 1
lution
.1 , .
uie nouse
its adopti
sense
c
v believe, that the reso- execution
Instead of the legislature devot- are to address the President inv the purpose of sna nl voie an .aames mat we majM:e en--
iiuieu eu it(tu vve n;ve tiouc me iiungs wiucu
not tp have done.
observations, sir, come from one who
to the proscribed sect of Federalists.
ainistunce alone may he with f.unie
themselves to the aeieeable amusement expressing to jinn our sentiments on 1114 con-
. '"w.rw""r" M.w....r. .-0 .1 . . .. nr.- nno-hr
'-.A.'lnn(. ;- .mf!..aK1.. rminf int- nhrases ant oolis hint? sentences ciuct, 1 presume we are in cumwmGrtm- v
kWl U IVUt UlAJt) iiuiuiuiuutv w - o J I tj ti fpi
thnt thfu in;iv ite'-4l iinmi tlit tviinnanuni of ments we entertain whether tavoriio, cr un 1 1 c
Ulio x. ftlo PlvwivtU Liltlli ll v 1 1 uvjvju vi " 7 i J 1 i "1 "
. . . . . .
care for passion, the ascendancy bver reason ; es for all our illustrious character,. We do The privileges ct the other mate legsslatures-- .Y: nou,u oe ,,re-
. , rT .. A n . :..' .. i. .u x.i.. f rvtunsin. wrh mi. i'.t ii, nprj'M carded. Already has the centleman. Irom
A Ipr inlnrv of addressing be sanctioned : ie:t it eMw Ti to ; Pasquotank admrifiWied the house' ih elaswc!
us youn.-man, frequent usaje, (and every precc-dent "carries biiguage,to beware ol those greeks who bring
for panegyric, another in its train) and the period is riot dis-J P'"ei.ts. To these, ansuch as thtae.
the wholesale, tant when we shall see the legislature of one 1 -do not address myself.- These . and such a
idance, ahvavs state arraved -against the legislature of u,tht 11 wollK
the timid, diive away moderation, and enforce- -ready for 'Use, .of everysize and every variety another ; one approving, the otheXcensur- a h0Pei 01 fc
a victory v , Such means have been used I of colouring. In this age of economy, I hope, ifig; orte .com mending witinjudicious pcrieelly wclc
know theyr'have been used. An 'oppon unit v thispiopoiiitLoajiVill not be -deemed unworthy, zeal, the other reprobating with passion ih'ral suspi
'nwAn the dormant nnimnsities of mrtv sni. seven hundred dollars a-day., A less salary ot addressing he sanctioned ;
lit by "caucuses ajid other unwarrantable would induce many7 shi ingenious
means, to get together a band of determined ot tervicl tancy and apt talents
. . t- ... r- 11 t
III 1 I 1 . . W LIT 1 . 1 11 J - ..rnilttli 'win . C C - C IMF
joiioweib, .wno oy inetr Diinei. ana wen oici--. uuiiuiawuit wunoani - ....w..-..... ... . --d- t 111 1 , . - . '
fti;,,i ..AUnL rK.in!, 1 ,1, We thonld hav them in abundance, ahvavs state arraved--against the legislatiutT of these it would have been madness to entertain
pIllJ (ivuiv iviit'V iv kiwil IbilVl U) UIIOU10,Ulltl III . . . . j .
a hope of convincing. They are welcome
ome, to their mean jealousies Mii -
lies
Jirlons. I .t no irinn i-mvv thP4iv
syrhave been used. An -opponunitv tnispioposiieoujiViU noi ue-oeemcu uuwuuny. ai, "- tvr1"':"" i" . .. . T. . . ... , .
.1 1 1 i - tl .. ir.,ik.. oop-,n itic hnm a ct, (rn(i. . nnrr. me ni ict 11 enaci ( m n 'i rr-s ,r i --j ..r.
'J - . iv . . .1 -.
suit of the motion which I shall now submit, We have been told that .m -consequence ot nnce. 1 ne people 01 t-ac.i.. state wm tane a , . n F r xt
the late outrage Committed by a Urittshvslup part wun .ner jvijisiamre ; mo n:o,si ireaa- V " v .
r .i n rM,w,f.i1P .iinitl 'stat: ad- fid animosities will follow these -dissentions : zareth that my remarks a rb directed, I hey
VJl VJI U - 11 ikVV vi mv w 1 . v. - , w , , - ,
will enable us to judge with: certainty of the the late outrage Committed by a liritislwship part wit
Mr tKinknr.i'rnr. tt th .nai flresSr have been Tonred u'Don the President the opefatioi.-s of the general government will - not consider whether the man entei tains
- I - W , IUUV tlV . iC II IMI I V " " - - - I " J . " , i
Jution and the amendments proposed to it. lie from all quarters, iraught w.th iervid.expres
on the table indefinitelv, and without order, sions of attachment, and of the most unequi-
- . t .1 - 1 . .rVl...
Ni.'niliarraMfd and their rounriU rlUlrnrtcrt ; Heretical Ol' OrtnOOOX tenets.- 1 llty Will re-
ri.e bands of union will be weakened a- lis- i'-'ct whether his positions be wei Wounded,
severance of the cmnire, universal confusion, h:s inferences correctly deduced. If his tirs;u
civil wars" complcat 'the catastrophe." As'we "ients ,,ave weight, thewdl be atteflded to i
regard our own interest and those of our pos- 11 t"--y uaye ime iei uiein ue uiai egaiucu- ,
: In the original address Was contained this.
Upon this motion, ir --I 'presume it would not vocal ppvphation of firs public conduct. lias
be regular to examine either of the orooosili-. .North-Caffjlina been backward: on tlusrocca-
ons with a minvite scrutinv. I shall thivfriri' sion ? lias she been wanting either' in decla-;
iorbearJoenlarce on. the 'sHhnsi.w. tonK, rations of her iut resentment at ilie insulUo-tityas wc and vie w the
.. . - V x . i r . ' r .1 r .1 i ... .... r : r ... t...
M1Ht LilmrV ln . r. t 1 iT 1 . til -U .1... nnl.n-. . unr'.linnc rT I 111 1 in If'Vi Tt'f ri II I IJ 1 I i . .1 ?S I t 1 K III I ' I I iJ3 V . It'l
,j(,,nvunb ..guugB oi uie ongmaiacuiress- tuc l4l,m urn .lr,ul, v -v. -rr; :. 7 "l-.:"";-r: v ..-T sentence : The Gencral Assembly bee leave
language better calculated for the meridian oi the President 1 ls there a corner oi me us . .ovuup, a p. ?v.c. W iK.. , .i to solicit vou to nermit vour name to be In-ld
cj - - j wiw o " - " - -t 4- " " tintr ' !
ui uu ucsijoi, man to me Lean stature ot a eiiner ui enese resMJiimoH, , ,v ' . i r? ,v- r . T. j i ju.j rt :-.-
tivp, . nM; m :...T-.....i " o.I... t A UA ;.nnrtn'n t ienn ntr. w in has ,f e Mhe ai Omion OI atlV Ot AhC DronOSfC aoVS- 1 " vn-ivv- t ,
' u-BiiMviii- oiatv. . - vrr--"-vw j-v-.";o'- , ' rh r ared thst the sa etv ot the nation was
-.. - we are caiieu ou ; - ,-, . - r
our imemuvorol .ao endangered by. the macbinations,rof-d party
y .
iiho seek to subvert because- they cannot direc.5
e government." -T-bt phrase was.iafterward
shall not now animadvert on the.Tulsome adula- "not aqnially joined in , sueh an address as was dr-ses highly inexpedient.
-tion, the whining cant of the "amendment pro- perfectly suited, to his feelings-ami his taste "? ui all olthein to declare o
posenyfey the gentleman from Pasquotank nor If the peopjehelrrhaye .already declaittheir.:''phbaTi0n-6tthe- measures
uoum; 'lis nisner. claims -tc -'distinction, seiuimeiiis, wncucc nsc.-amc. oai. .. "v-jtr. . .;u.k- .
. puvut; cuius -wun nicn it invent- laets iciitunuiiw us : imi uiian. ui. ai . ...y(.;. -- - r, - , ..
Alter tne motion oi ivir.-jasuju was rc-
iltat
com--'
ifitd -
ater
HOI Will l IVOW UOini iniirci i uie ttiuac" ut : "v iwiiv,,. ..." . . " ' - . 7 -... .
out all that I do net approve of, in the amend-byMhe legislature' Chosen by, the people- is further understood that these dispatches portion ot the mempers ., i his motion was
tnrntproposedliy my friend from CraVen'an 'r'espbnsihlcjto them at another election, there contained instructions as to tne nature ot th-aiso rejecieuf i ne :.pieiou men cvhms,
amendment Vhich I. rnust admit is ip"6nitely -is a propriety, in his constituents Texpressing. re)vati on demanded on our part, - But who on the final passage . of the address Po-;
less liable to ojectionsTThan tiUier of thrb-" or. suitable occasions and in a sMtabJe niannv. will inform us, who can inform uswhat these by Mt. Hamilton, , , ; . - -.t-
Vther prepositions. It shall be mv part to keep their approbation or censure of-, his conduct. lilstrvKtions were i WhQ can tell us whether Mr. HxifnERsoN,. 6f Sahsbiiry, made ifcc
constantly in view the objects cbiiWrnpiutetl by Blt by us he is not clioSvn to-us he is not they were, consistent with the boner, and yet following speech in opposition.
thxn aL una to enouirr whether fJhr hli resnonslble. ; : ' rnot regadlessftfie interests bf pur' country h; 1 regrettrewtly that the resolution which,
jects the Presulent -ought o be addressed by Ci lleresir, perhaps I might safely stopi If Th,at they were spirited, yet not. blustering, is the. subject of .debate, was introduced So the, ,
thisr: Legislature. r. : " ' .- tae reasons assigned for the proposed measure, digiiified, yet not1mprudent ? y hethcr they considerauo:of this House. I se&no possi- ,
that have iv it;.r-i, TVin'c, tk mniirral sirsiin KiM-eneatrd i Is there-AV ill some gentleman he epou enough-to in- .
dacity, .which attributes ttf virtuous :mn. vil- a Da-Capo which it- is the "-province of the'le- fbrni us whttt these measures are ? It is under- jected, Mr,. Porter of Rutherford moved
l.iinmi VAnnt-o...! ' ..:n: ' ' j Ts.i--v.w, ? Anfi mrmir n 'Moed that. soon alter the disgraceful ontf acre off the address be relerred to a select loiut
t!.f ni,erii .i..n.ra, r ..L-.ej' .te . Uk.a..' Kof vt; ' ttiat thii -niHrtnr? of thrtTarje5-orV FP-inia. thHt-dwnatchesweeirhittee,m order that-itmieht be so-mod
hiiY.U .ct ir.iW-V..wii.-:.; iVt-. . . .,'ua' n.:A.n kt ,l,o n,fiV. nnt . spnf-.F im the executive to alt- Miinrne. ahd rf as to meet with the anDrouatton Ot a gre
'fhey all have in view the exnression of our a' unfounded, and
deuded:appicOU of thejwUle of Mr. Jtfmi&de appciy no-ordoLs
its propriety can not be expressed the.se'ntimentiof an insulted', yirK''g;.K--nns'r-- C?af.UiIfjfX-.
rhcuUl-be pass feeiings and reuse passions which Ihad
Iff.
Kit
': - - : : :' - ...,': :- ', ": - ; ;rr v-';- v.:j.--: '.- '-' ' --".. ,
J.: " .L . ' 1 . J ; . . . I "'- f .. - .- ..--...-. '. t .. - V
-,.- v..
...'--,'..-7- t . .... . r - '.' - ' -