MSIIHiSii ' ' ""' '. ' ' " JjLJ - ' ' I '. t j ; ,"v'J't';:. .:..'":" " J;, . :.v " .' ---. i ,; v"n.-;v ;- ,""' - .j" ' . . " V" " ' KALEIGn, (n. c.) THURSDAY, MARCH 2 1 809. No.. 674. j S Ci if an Jar rett iT-Sl h m r nF.l'RESEXTATIVES,- I'M January 39.- ' W ttirisaJC onttnue a . r f.V With more ' fembarr'as; ''J rnni I attempt t -n&ke 5e -V the sub ect betorc-tne tommiree, Lt 3y noro bject i (f.,f ,ivlir r lirv had ;;orif sii any observations cm n -.lurie present jksa.tfn o( X he reason is that it is not Cc- 1" whit m?itV.Ke had" DC uu3iuuis:a ,Vh.rgo, ifii'shall be raised. I ,,!, flf jTreAl pieusurc iui near uic man from .ewUl a rehire; Du- r - i l ' t..' .1". ...... " TV St3tes ' "no ' liavc uccu via;utu iaffor othef, not topuy proper respect 'emMrgo .laws, are returning to , tf.e e of those principles oi correctness on tfcc safety ol ' ihis nation doth depend. isinuniOT M ini my own upmimi rc- v the citizens ot.that seou oi the VotwklistAnding; all that has ueen isaij insurrection nnrl opposition to the laws b endanger the United Statt I caitnf)t mvseif to consider it in a serious point ; pcsljvc fact must be proved to me, m? belief of such "things sball be had. fcnfidence in the gr?at boily of citizeos of astern-$tateS 13 not ' done away, and I thee is in the same- state , a sufficient tv of force H suppress any --attempts moy hi mace against toe union. jna it cornes to the point, there is reason eve tiut patrlytHm similar to tftal which need the Western states, m the- case of. will also irifluerfce pur brpthVrjs of the rn My vots in tins case Bhall Rot ' be neeflr for-is --44-fifiuencedr-byany-tlting- mii been said to be tldne respecting nbar j aws in any of the Easterntates ch lnnuence is disavowed by nie. in jise and every other my vote shall be according to my understanding what is al interest, and will best promote the tights and Independence of the Unit ies. t . Wtca said, that for some days he had opinion that a commercial non inter- M'veen,the United Slates and Gieat ami France... and their dependencies, other powe having in force orders screes .violating; the', lawful commerce btral rights of lite Unined.States, might ien the most pffner merisure to have opted in the then state of thiivjs, in cf tht embargo ; and that Undeu. that tercoursethe United States seme time mie;ht have glided alons;. BuL,inthe of the gentlem an from Coqnecu', burying hath ?one by the oppGrtu- tnr that systen, it is apprehended is ii it ds observed tnat rcorrnnercTai ptercourse jystem, is rmt a system of oitcj the edicts of either Great Bn- name. ivtat irnam tiotn noi.com the Untted States to abandon the ccean, to trade with her ; no such tlrine. G. ti eelai-csiier ports open to the yes anil produce of the United States either ecpal coirtu'mption,' so far as sit;- is n- 'T to, supply her market, or for e,xpor vjieat Britain declares that , for- that trih nte or tl u t y, call it what you will, paid. France doth not command the 4 States to abandon the ocean, or not iiJ5Lhi6h,haveJ.been-visjted:h.vRrL fiivd . vessel .on have "been in British or have British merchandise on beard, m licences to trader shall be subject lure and condemnation; - Certainly then f 'pinion thVt -a commercial hon-inter- States be -if then the embargo laws are forth - wijlir repealed you .will ' giye ' i decided" ad- vantage to those ports which, are open -or continU always to; be so, either in the Sou thern 'or Eastern.-" Stales -This - would be paftial and' unfair and in :tperation unjust. Ufthe embargo is raised, let itbe,at a day 'sa rc! istahtf 'at l;ast, that the-'mercharitv in every! part of the United States may hae "notice : artl not .only cV. but that the day on which the . embargo shall, be raised, may be so xh.tar)l, I that there may be every reason to conclude vthat, the natural frozen embargo which now exists shall also be taken off from every port in the United. States. If the ftierchants . are' to start their vessels as for a race, let them : alUwv-oppoi tunity of n fair Tstart, antL let T not fcome of them-have time tOTtin oyer half theccurse before others of them can get away from, the starting p!ace. ? V- - , I will notice (said .Mr.' Rhea) to fill Up the "blank v jth the words 44 first day of Jane,"' for reasons to 'me o;j-cnt.----The em-t barco Iialh now rontinMed formore than twelve months, and the great body of tbecitiN zenshave'witb trne magnanimity ano patriotic love of country, bore tip under aod supported "it - notwithstanding its accompanying priva t'pna. An embargo of the -same nature and extent; in aTl probabi!ity, would, in the term cf six rnorrths, have if uken any "flier man-, lime nation to its cllitre.4- It--was-left atut re mained for the sovci'eign people of the Dm' ed Stales in their neutral-fcapaciiy to msauftst to all other nations art liitberto uiwixpeNL-nctd firmness under anVin.baTgrt of such duiatK ' and extern". ;Tlis embargo and the firmness with which it was stipportexlrwtlThe a. grand; "land BriKrk to Riture t;eneraticns, by wl.ioU- la' steer their political course. .Mr. -Iinca said, it had beT his- npini.-n, that 4he embarrjcr'if . it had been universally refjarded which it ought to have hen, wuulJ have Vperateas n impenetrable wall of do--fence to iheyUnited States, 'unde'r those days of trouble, indchTlhe nations in .liirrope ap pear to be executing veucaiice on eacn o.ner, -ttad passed ov-r; ' ItTTtTnr.lywoiud - have bad that effect. ' if ,; Datrioiism and love or country had univeisllly prevailed over love of money. The United Siates,are a. 'new na tion, composed either orlgirially or personally, of emigrants from almost every European na tion." This nation doth not owe its origi to any One European nation, and neither cf these nations hath any right for that cause, to claim or demand any peculiar favor. Thcr United States are three . thotisandvmales distant, far removed in the depths of. thj wilderness, from the bloody wars of Euio it might therefore have been m'est proper, acd'most cor si stent witlvtheir satety to have been.cnn tentetl at home, and Wit-fit ivencla red the piivalion of foreign superfluities, even with out the constraint of an emb:m-o. for some time longer, ttndr If possible, until those days of European aiftiction had p:sstd c er. - " There , is nowTDiTrt)Bnd, it is pit-sumed, a vast quantity of prpdure. The aricu'HOf&l intei-est hath, to its great ':di.sadvac,-t3rf dured fur a srfficient length' cfae, great repression in 'the price of produce-'; if then the embargo is designed to ie raised in time for the produoeto get to mr.iket, itausiht not to be dtkyed until the first of Jutie. On the fourth day of March hezi let the oTihargo be raised. There will be 'tiflicienl time for the merchants in every pait of the United States to be informed of lhat' event. On that day, there is reason to belief, the natural embar go by ft ee7.ing,v -which now ' exists', xrill be taken,, off. ' .Oh the 4th day of vlarch next, another administration will come into power and it mav be most proper and converjkHt that tfrnt adiriinistraiion shall : cqmtiice its chandtze -shall be stamped with.herT mafkj The decrees of France fere also gainst the'cbmiee--of-the';'.ynited .; States andthreVten dcruction to every, part of it that sbaH cornc within their" grasp. In this state of things, if the embargo .be liaised, there can be but one opinion as to merchant vessels, add that is, that if they may be de signed to put to sea, they shall be authorised mine hist instance, to arm. On the suojecs of war, notliir; g hitherto hath by me been tion.' ; Not, sir,' thai thejbargo Jaw? cannot .tAtLuitw uy ami ov mis , gov ti'nrntnt -I unhesitatingly declare, that tlii$ gevernraent ; eatf j)c supported ; and your laws-can, by the ; ir on g arm oi govern ,nent, be entorced. Uut, said. I desire' to avoid war' if possible aHi therefore will not take-war into consideration at tjvis time, and why shall the United, States forbear Ibrfger than th'j fourth ofMarch next to resume the navigation of the ocean ? Ilath no: all navigation with Gre,at Jliitain and Fiince-fstt5ft With Gret Britain it harh run down tct a mere dispute about words.-It appears-by thiate dtspatche? from tire riiini' sTerof the United States at GreM Hritain, that the question of ilcgociation now ,is whether such vvords wei e.siicken, and if spoken with what understanding ; this ctrtajnly is de scending into the abyss of humiliation 1 can iiot tirbear,. (said Mr. R.) expressing a wiii thr;tiur ministers were on theirvay home al ihongiey mi jlit experience severe weather oo their sagt1. ! ''i .' ' ' . ' have bn told ihat the Rritih fleet is a ba'rri.tV; it is ainiued that it is a; barrier, a barrier: 'arjainst -the freedom of the ocean, a g-jirrst the I'rcedom'of cbrnniercc, ?ind agaitist the commercial rights' of fiatWui. " , , Ve h ive been' tfeld that Great Prltain is fighting -farther existor.ee iff w hat ihauner resncct the Unitfd stales r i be eausef sir, thTs ;s a government of tjbe peoplci and their voice is not al presenifbrvar. Yba 1 have ' too long, in terposed ..the' embargo as a ' r shield to our cipeh'againstfBrUish deprad'ac ti'ons-they' have lost, their r wa.r-pulse-4thejF; ; must again su0er, to .u gain windjJicm up l& their, former spiiiti: ; , This; being a govern- ment of, 'and from- the people, whose servants , 1 we are, it is bur duly-to advance ,their inter- ests and to cnfotcJe the genefal will of the na- doth that Unite-i.-Staws cannot le charred with the cause of her irarrel. uut- trreat t5nta:nxis contending agyhist a p-wt r, wlio appcavs to desire the dominion of the .c'cHMinant "of Etir rope. Let it be so, that will not avail or hetp the position, some of the greatest, best, and most honorable- anJ pat riot ic" men of Great .Britain, have said, that if th? power of Prime e is arrived ' to transcettdant grtatness Great BrifiM may thahk herself fopiishing France Hcrthat state of irT.-eyy.Lireat-iintam1-- restore the 'many tiifuand seamen, citizens of the United ,..to') rhom he Ivolds n slave ry, to tluir country. l.etFGreat liritain in-" den-mfy for the nany millions vyoith of pro perty of citizens .f the 5 .ni'tcd Sti tes, by her unjustly captured and condemned. Let G Britain. vcsci:id atid repeal all herilicts, pro clamavions-crd laws .which violate the lawful. ' commerce and lights of the United States. Let Great Britain declare that tiie ocean shall be fre', and thaihe commerce of the Unit- ed'S'.i'tes shall travel un: Way. of nations. nolcstcdrxm tJie high- United States have abstained fro iriiivigaliiVg: the' ocean a considerablci length tft trne. Ltst, thenv it may be behevedrihat" there is 4an intent ion-to abandon itl.iogether, on the .' fourth day of March ptxt,"let the navigation of the ocean be iesTJniccl, and on that day, e between the United Sutes and Great and forever after, let the. United. Spates" assert. ' ana ,'rancc and their dcoendenciesia p:-vwtp fwjrs liaviiigia force oi defs and v yiouting the. lawful commerce an,h l-fJhts of th(j-U. states .would be. sub- GaVBritaiivkrtilFriiice. is not ?!P. OTwbe paUjto ts; oV -Sfi lh? gentleman frolrrVrirginia nciotp, ) who was. of opinion that the rtUWrij3aKedibrthfth ; there " .1aigu''-.f tlwr if th r!Deakd. th rpf n.ianVttir i f , rnC . n'CH IS said-to haVH ha'4(:l inln (.annh: ' l'!ere detained for some timi. hv the ice. ' reasov may not get to m aiket as p-5 .W.t;oduces!!ipped from the UniC U2jsi-jikihiq: :the lorce . rva!!.oiis they'dci not contain a suf ron to repeal thiy enlbarj laws so" .UtyH iConsidcrd-tKafthe rioita of Philapjiire byj.he Vigor ,! '"ter nof lo-kecl un..afHlnrobai)lv y'wvc r for some time'. In that ron ' Iuy sevcfil' Qther Iports in the Ui.'.ud cinrl maintain their fiht tfMiavieatV the cean, the great ftonimpn highway t)f nations, freely, and agreeably to the laws, of pulc" reason- ,:;r- '. ' ' . ::' , When I contemplate, sakl MrR. the greht danger to which the seafaringtitizfens and -commerce of the United iHs W'i U be - ex- " nose don the ocean, it is with great relvxtance 1 - - .. . L'-l V Let Great" Rritfti rvke -reparatio?lJr;her many violations of j.ic.' OVerftghty''-'.of;. the .L'nited.fttales-; afd a'Aef these things are all .pbrformed, and justice . .dor.e to the United States, tl'tn let . gentu'bieri tell, lis that Great Bmainis fi;- hting for lar existence. -TlKr; vv&sa timf vvht-n-Great -Britain had it in Iwr'ijower to.lwve comiHatt'd and pair ed Lo hevssi-lf '-he friendship and affection of the U. starts ; .a time, "ticn alter me nie on the rvoUittibriary war had beep extinguished, the U. States were '"blooming;ir.to commercial existfcnceTThcn was tl time tor G. Britain Jo ha taken the Htixule ri her arms, and to jjtre chetjsbed him ?s a b;oiherr hy sd ding th.e might have had a brother, indeed wh Wbuld have stood by her in the day of Uou!)h;." On the contrary-G. Britain hatlvbern studi ously, anxiously, and iirdustrit-msly carelul to alienate thi friendship a'id a factions of he U. StMts, Let the "Whole conduct of Great- Kri ta;u towat ds the U.'yStates since the treaty of peace, be altejided'to,-and then let the unim- m'ssioned and lmpariiahooaver say whetner .. . . . . . .- . ', f :f career with a, new order of r t'nings?-" The -Ui. Rritain4iarh not been industnously .tartful to laU.ejratehe f rietidshipj imd affectioa . otihe - U. States trom herself. ; - : r ; , , : Let the iippattial witn:sst jnctge in this 1 cause, ande will pioivnince sentence against Great Britain. Great Britain :by violence, : hath rent asunder those bonds of social friend ship which fmight have connect ed her and the' Uhiteti Stajes forever. jBnt sir, we aresk- "e'd, why shtll we arm ? Who is our enenj'y ? The?e questions rmy he answered by.asliing two other questions,' viz -W hy shall we not Mr, is it true policy to enforce these laws ?; I do presume it ls.n'it, as it may produce a civil warr the worst of all wats. The embargo has been VufficieoU.trieaha the experiment has proved,fthai ..ips' 'ot:sufficienlly 'ed w -ta.'. .' induce the belligerents to abandon their orders '. and decrees , Vhy then, continue itito;ther: ihjory of our citlzesra who are our b-ist ciuzens, our frieudsho.are niosj disposed to support the administration" and our laws ? 4 " ' . : , : Sir, I lament that the public sentiment and opinio" on the sul)ject of foreign aggressionsi .is different in the difTefent. sections of our coii'itry. . The south ay, embargo or war and the north'and' east '.say,' no embaigo, no war. I applaud the resentment "of the people of the soivj.h and highly' revere their hifh sense cf honor., 1 lmt nt, that this difference of opinion exvi; yet, i 'as', it does exist, we must take things as they'a're, and legislate ac cordmgly. The genius and; duty of republi can govern meiHs, is to make laws to suit the people, and not to attempt to make the peo- , pksuitbe laws. In nid'narchics, the people re ctriilcff to suit the laws flowing fiKn the d-jfefot -but this n;ver should be attempted in a repu'bheari goveriimetit, the strength, of which is lliejove and a,ttachrhentof the citV tens. ' Sir, yuuannbt Jake. war which will promise a succtttul issue whilst the counay in disunited. " 1 he peoplc "must, with oncl" 4eTrmedlycal forwar from cv-ery-"sectiori" aiid yilla-e-of our country T'hen, iiujeed wt may ykilture on war. Thvpeuple must urge us into war; yer nnot Jiwther intg a successful coutcsu No, sir, you know the attempt is futile, it is idle. Sir, as I cosWer mysel! a representative of the people, I vie itas my duty, at this ,ev;i th.l, .momeiit, to ,X make known to you what I do cpneeive to bo (not the univtrsiil) hit the jjlrttl-inioii' .trd-'wishes-bf your ciirens ofidl politics iiy ihe -northern state?. In ill not be answrraliie for the correctness cf these opinions and. wishes of the people. No, sir, co ifd, in some in stances, w'rsh tTiey were' mere consistent anil, less goverticd by the cupidity of gain- Vet, sir, theii" opinions arise from their iocal suua tion The nature of man is the same, everf where ; surrou'n.tltd by the same objects, their opinions, sentiments and conduct will-be the " same. TIace the people of the ..south iri the same situation and. surrounded l.Jy the same; itiriptatiotis, and .pressed with the same los ses? and their conduct wo-br-the-s-rne as ' these of tlVe north. Sir,' from the communi cations 1 have received from the north, and from other sources of information, I believe that I shall be able to state their opinions and some of 'the reasons on wlnh -their opinions are foundettreomply whr their wishes," We must, repeal thei,nt)argo laws at as early ' a day as will comport with jusiqg to all the merchants f our countrv. . Lefail have an e qualcliipce to he first in the foreign market, and perhaps the first of-March will be as ear- ' ly a"'daylas wiil comport with this necesisary provision. As a. substitute fir the embargo, thry mean not submission, Their voice is, 4 arm in iltfence- of natiirsl aud national iio hts.'l .Tney wish for lilierty-to'arm and do-" fend aginst an infraction of our indisputable rights on the ocean. This defensive arming1, they wisfr tbseerreguk:tedin such manner as', shall preserve peace, if possifc!e. and to do a- way (s-far as is honorable "aruLpolitib) every uniiecessary. cause of collision with foreign po.versv To do rhis,vv''ll it ftoV wise, con--sideriag Frabce and .'England ; as equally of fending lis, to 4pUt,our relations, with them on exactly the same basis I Inhibit by law the arm ? Wh'ois bur friend ? Sir, it appears as if the whole world was arrayed against the U. Stjt'e, Let any gentleman take the map of the WQiId, and. puthisXmgeron the spot, de indcecVT aeree to rai-e the embargo. Great f signaling the place," where dwells a nation the Britain with steady p&licy lor centuries past hath been endeavormg to acquire,the dominion ot the ocean and monopoly of cwmmetce. To thce two idols, dominion of the ocean and n,f nqx)Jy of commerce, an immense p?x fusion of human blood hath bee poured out in libatVbnt and the cbrri mere e! eveiy .mri - t ilime; najjon hath been sacrificed- V:e3t. Britain 'fier . vatiouV efforis ; and struggles; hath' afljwt actpiired: the faol'ite object ;';in. o: htrlvbTds htith by main frce seizecf upoti - and 'usurped the dominion of the '-ocean, f-the-common-pro'pcrtv-W-al 1 natioirsi sd-by Jcr lavvvhath viitualV declared that- no natron shall buy or tell ufclcis the ptcjrrty cr mcr- avowed friemf of the. United States...It.wilI give nie great pleasure indeed, to be so in termed. And -lierer saiMr. RheaT will Take the liberty' to,observe, that it is tim6, and. it is right for Che United Stupes to look over the world, anil if -possible, ascertfin the fart, whether there" b? that" nation, and if that na tion cart be f.nnd, T shall have-no hesitation to tske him in my arms, to call him: friend anl'brollWr, .and to make wh.hinjia, treaty o f tvcijiti n g a mi ty , h vc and frirnran I p ;.' J : -Mr: CVo.--iIrChairmaTj,jl"am oppo to fi'hTvJhe 'dank fr realintfllfe em'iaiv-o on ih-fii4-'. y of J j!v n't:Xt. and txrrssue Lt iLTi Of Mar:e and HepuaiiUhat dais ; ba- exportation of all ' contraband goods fim our country; and permit, none but real ci"uVnsVofr aid of the ; ' ihe Unitetl States to navigate the vessels! United States. " these restnctionswhich indeed would not Injure our fair trade, but would expel from our country, the demoralizing; dregs cf jils aiid men of war, would serve in a great m -a- siire t jireveiU collisions, and to secure torup . own cui?en,v the"eward of their bwn t ur-r " prizes "To resists m such a roanbef as to in duce a! change in our favo'r,l?t us increase. ari perhapi, double the duties on idl inipoitstina. from the oBV-nding powers.; aid. reduce the duties on goods from other qM-,rrs. . J . ' These, and other- re'Ua'd'vir. eisure.jar, Fv.dopi.ed, exprssidy to h.j oalv l'arrio?- neqns' wTtii the 'prc.n piraTf' vy :!cfft cf; t ii'Eo z?jr; '"" And, siif la-vs ' rta- V ry w j;reve:itour citucn io:a selling ike rr- u'J'9- 1. ),

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