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Lis; AHAtt DOLI.ftK j PUBLISHED (weekly) BY WILLI A K BvJYLAN, UMIf Vol. 13. RALEIGH , ,(n . c ) THURSDAY, MARCH 16, 1 809. v, ..... -;,,.'.- - .; . ;-r .- ;.- .;v ;..v - v - -1 - V - -v II (Iv. 1 M .1 , ' I W - I IT I M : II W'il ' Tv ' " " " . : . "'-" - V ....... . .. 'ti -.' , - : K ., i. . .,.( " ' nine arir." Jr rthcr. IV- If J. the ie At' S0- 1 F ,c" LP ie0t) Congress. mes.- to I U) O.i'' REPJtliSfiXTJTirES, Fbidav February 3. , Vinhnrirn. and aulflOrisinP Wrr o 'ftlarqucana ntjinwiiviuuiuLu.. -Randolph said, that he had vottJa , Aiiinir the blank in the resolution with 4th day of March,' because,. if possible he j h-ve wished an earlier day -reserving ever in.ni$ awn unuu ium tmwh mv tion bhotild come ueiore me nouse, oi a- mir to that day, it an earner couia not ie otd. lie Iuped ahd the prospectwhich -nted itself that morning gave him good 1 in hone, that the committee would a- tothat member of the resolution which I then before them, ror some time pasr ail been an inactive, though notraii inac observer of the proceeding of Congress. id not know whether he ought not to re at the physical incapacity which hacj pre- A hin) from taking a part in those pro iTbey had been such as (until fill his mind with" "great apprehension alarm, becauseJhey had hitherto indicat- ertatwant of concerttiot to- say clisuni- mt inhere. He-would have deemed Tt 'ore e most calanlitous events that coulti havt en the country, it, alter the progress h had been made in the consideration ot motion of the gentleman from Virginia Nicholas) the rIouse.c6uId that day, have Ul further to consider it. " And Avhere- should be so have deemed it ? Because uld have indicated not merely a want of t ' . iL i. i crt ana ot union in me cauinei ana coun- of our country, but he feared it might led to a state oi things, -Which he would then attempt to anticipate. 1 he plain, (I. onen i oad for .every government to pur was that of common sense and decision common ense is theory ; decision is ex- If, as they had been, 'old,, there ex- dissHsfaciion, murmuring discontent j biririfirennstnTeitrel t the I aw s -wisdom and if required either aprompt subdual of spirit, or an iramediateVielding to it : one he '(iiher. It was the'haltirig between ie extremes, an oscillating, htsitatinov fcoVizing, tampering, patching-uppolicy, brought ruin on every nation, so situated. history of our own revolution taught this, conduct of the British ministry to the A- can colonies, he supposed, would have esscd this principle on the mind of qvery What was that conduct s Marked by a of irritafion and indecision.- Whilst we irritated on the one hand, we were un rolled by power on the other andVafter ot excitement and illblood, the event is n to all. He therefore congratulated the Ise and the nation that this syetem' if sys . it could tie called -was about to be given that the hopes, the wishes,, the fears y strong passion of the public were no er to be sported with'T&that the example ora Worth was not so soon to be lost unon Sir; (said he ) if my voice will permit i wiir.sta.te another subject of congratula- to you' and the committee. Mt is, that png this period of general disi r;tctioh I no gentleman will, attach any! badif or H snse to the word, tut thatVit' will bt n (a I utter it) to mean a difference, a paiiety -of view's and opinions ; there be huhevto perhaps no ten men to be found ms House who could ac-ree uport an v affir. bitionr amidst this public dis- iion nts a Subject of r.nnsnlalirjri to me we have not, as vet, comnrnmitted the of the state; that dnrinir this lonir and 'Ppljticarmaladj undewKich we haye 11 i and not without some shadow of rea- i so extremelv neevish aiid fiptful. the l.n. politic hdS Sustained i)rlians in rnrlirnlln. , , r-...-r- - and hdt, now, by a happy determina- l0 the Surface, thf ts.ir i'ilsi in Up, i!y thrown off. : . some-it might be thought that, in. the t and perhaps mid range, .which he "'"u&eUftOnthP Riihlfrt. h ivac v mht ncr "ues and orders of ilie HtiiUe. f hn tli; jai lie' must m rwrrnhtfA sav tlmt iUUhO-n-k1-'1- . . .. V . -ft anirTrrmrrestmiHonrHinoi-on-- r, 'cn' that did not involve everv foreicn ; 1 e murht ..... S "ii 3 Ot this im'ir.. T a .'Li... - vii. ii niiiiiiss nie in ins s a subject of iW. vuai imnoi tnn i.Mk Jl i iiv. w iiii ma u v liniiiiLcrijr Bltcidl pleader ;-rriot to trace! out of the v or to be tied down to the matter ton 111 the drc1arut.rr, 1 An',l 'i,.i!t' . i , "-v.wiHiivui I1V1 1 1111V 111!.. 'AWld Mr. Hamk)lnl to arid th-,t so lonir I esrsn tu i '. ' .. . . . . . n '.T torreaion oi the chair, l sham . v ,c opinions as to order of other fef n- ak r - a,c occasions in wmc.u 10 oi anw mar. l:.. . . iu his lace in a eenairi - 'il ? a l.be lVPrn,)atetl ?nd stampedas .na ii 7. fv but there art ofherocca Vf...,- sf to sneat : lo rt s.tr ;,i Srubjecs perhaps to colder, but for" bitterer censure. I shall dismiss this topic, then- by saying, that you, sir, have riot so long presided in this, assembly, , with so much reputation to yourself and benefit to the state, to be new schooled in your duty by the younglings of yesterday. AncI I say it, because a chairman of this committee would certainly very "gross ly depart from rule and order were he to'rise to vindicate his conduct in this assembly, from any .arraignment of it by a member. In the train of argument which he should pursue, Mr. R. really did not think it ut all necessary with his friend from South Caroli na, (Mr. D. R. Williams) or the learned gen tleman liomjGonnccticut, (Mr. Pitkin) to go into a minute calculation, on the subject ofUhe revenue-orJdebt of GreatIhitairi r or of' the gross products of dutieVde'rived by her from ineimporiatiori of West India commodities. Suchcalculations ought- not td enter into any determination of that House- For however they might begnade to appear on paper,and whatever might have been said on the subject from the days of David-Hume, and Dr. Price, to the present hour, the continental enemy of that; power had, for at least half a century, been deceived in his reckoning asto her time of bankrupt o. The subject bad baffled all :he calculations of political economists'.' And seatly, sir. (said Mr, H.) it is .hardly, won b our while, after Bonaparte, like Canute of ola, has sat down on the sea shore at Boulogne, vainly waiting for the great tide of British 5 wealth to recede: to take measures, here. bottomed upon calculations of her being una ble to carry on the war for want of capacity to raise the supplies. It is a wtllstablislitd Tact that the gross revenue of ihat kingdom was for the year 1807 (exclusive of -loans and the revenue derhed from Ireland) sixty milli ons sterling ; and t$at collected at an expence of 4 5s. per ctnt. This-, is answer enough to us, on the sublet of, her bting unable to carry on the war lor want' of resources, par ticularly when we look back to our own reve nue, the expence at which it Jscollected ; -anti Tnicnwespectfitly7When we look atllie pro-" position of our chincf llor bf the exchecjuer, the Secretary of the Treasury, to carry on .the war (should we engage in one) with loans,, ex clusively. ' It is an ample, a redundant answer. Shall we calculate upon the failure, for want of revenue, of a nation wlwse annual loans bear so small a proportion to her whole re ceipt (in the. year which 1 have quoted? about a fourth) whilst we ourselves are tolJ that loans must constitute nearly the .whole -of our reve nue. There, then, can be no doubt that this subject, not orilyought not to enter into our views upon the - gi-ehkguestion of war, hut per haps had better not be Mitred at all ; that our measures ought to be takeivjn reference, to our own capacity and disposition for exertions, and not grounded oil flattering,. .perhaps delu sive, hopes of our adversary's weaknesses. An x other point it might be as well, in passing, "tcr notice ; the small proportion winch the cus toms bear to the revenue of that state, and that proportion decreasing, although! their "aggre gateiiioy.nt be actually increasing ; whilst the revenue from internal sources ba3 beeiLrapiu- ly increasing, every year, as wcH in proportion to the whole.receipt as in aggregate amount. But, sir, (said Mr. Randolph) amidst the va-, riotis causes ..which I find for falicitating you a;ul the nation, the recent change in the as- pect-of tur auairs is not the least ; tnut we artTat last to settle upon some system ; and I listened, I confess, ' with very great pleasure the other day, to the gentleman from Mas-sa- chusetts (Mr. Bacon) and my worthy colleague CMr. Burwtll) althoucrh perhaps 1 may not ; trave exactly agreea wnn eiiner, cenam;y noi with both of them. I listened to them be- - cause tliey held out to us "the prospect of a happy teimination of the presehtstate of things ; a stale 61 things, which, alter the vote ot yesterday and fto-day, I might almost be tempted to pronounce canrot lastJbevond the iourth of March.v A great deal hacToeen said atoutVthe-'patriotism of the country under the operation of this system. In Mr. Randolph's opihien,'. never did any people exhibit so str: kiner an instance of patriotism as the people ,of the United States had done since December.. 1807. ! He believed jthat thejr patriotismJiad in that period been put to. a test more severe LlJiarLuritigJ' the revolutionary War; because whatsoever ot sunenng the people men ict those who could not sec wisdom in the mea sures should murmur when suffering under it ? -that men not strictly conscientious should violate its provisions ? that under the severity of its operation the administration should lose somewhat of their former popularity ? Mr R was not, never had been, and he trusted never would be in the habit of paying compliments to men who have much at their disposal but he would declare ih'w belief that the popularity of ho man whom Clod ever made could have endurtd the test which that of the President of the United States had rot merely endured, but gone through with victory. There could not have been so strong a proof of the deep seated love and unqualified approbation of that man, as his having been, polititallyable to support the weight of that experiment. I: was a trophy of which he never could be di vestcdrlet him die when he, woult whatso ever might be the course of his future life". Yes, sir, (said Mr. R. after the vote of this committee I do consider the embargo as sub stantially repealed.' It is something like a vole of credit it has not gone through ..11 the forms of a law,"but no banker would hesitate to advance money upon it. Gentlemen shake their heads, sir, and bezels of tuch weight too that 1 despair of shaking them myself had supposed that the embargo was all bur. repealed In point of fact I Ulieve that ituis already repealed- A member of this House has cited thternba-go as a strong proof of ine stamina ok this infant .Hercules, w!(o liad betn so iong able ftbear what Would have crushed (as lie says) anyolher nation, in six months. I believe, sir, that it'wpull have, crushed the popularity of any 'ministry pi" any other nation than this, in less than six nibnihs, supposing thai nation to have half the pretentions to free dom that we have. He remtmbeielt U have read a great while ago iri an extremely Kfcju tiful epic poem, that the natives . of Cliijj, when they threw oft" the Spanish yoke, -proposed 'to choose their captain by thi test: a very heavy beam of woo l was. produced, and lis could support it on his siwuidersjhe Joiig- esniiheas TO One of the chiefs stood under the buithen such an amazing number of hoUrs, that they were like never to come to a conclusion, and (if he remembered rightly) they hud to aban don their experiment. Whatsoever proof we hud given of out -Wisdom, we had indubitably borne away-the palm of bodily strength, any thing in the observations of a gentleman from New York (Mr. Ciirdcuier) about our being "puny and ricketty, io the Contrary notwith standing and Mr. R. hoped we should give perhaps- hot quite so strong a proof of our wis dom, by throwing the beam off from our shoulders, now that we- hud ascertained our strength by the experiment.... . r But it was asked, w'hat substitute would "he propose IoiMhe cnibarf None. He lio'ped he would not be misapprehended. Consider in g the embargo in iis oWritioiiisirrnischiev- Kous and even ruinous, it would be droil indeed ithe should require a vubHitutt ior an evil jliat he proposed to get rij of. bhuli a r.lan rtiuse. to bs eurcd or a canc r unless you will provide-Ii iuk with a iubltitutr ? But if he were asked what the nailoiis. to dofrei repealing the emtargo ? ' His anivver was" ready. ,To be sure, sir, (said he) it is a very old one, and theielore may not lakevuh thefasliions of the day---but in matters of policy, old-systems which have b.-en silud and tried -by experi- eme, .are not", in my judgment, ""the worbfq and the. longer tried,, perhaps, the better. So fir, therefore, from its being, ah objection with me, that : a proposition id old and trite, ,it is a recommendal:on ; as it is precisely the re verse with respect to new projects, however ingenious, however calculated to catch ordaz ltheee -lik.c the room in which we sit, where I atlhis moment 'ducern the--fissures which, perhaps,: are to reduce lis to the bitua lion of poor Lenthall. We had as well stuck to oui old apartment 1 1 dontmean the linrai v) where we had evferyeonvemence and comtort -ana savta our . money. - The diseases of this "state t.ook their rise' f repeat it again and Egaiii"t the year 1.805-- 6. We were then a Huunsbing, muted aid happy people; The government permitted it self, a majoHf v of this House permitted them selves and X believe they, now sorely repent of it, sir, "indeed scrrne of ihem 'have, told rue so. .-.to beurtedl)y mtn:;iiiiUe rl nrioranrt rq- at home, at their option. This was my opi nion as far back as 1805-6, and I think it will be found, although not in detail, ina report made during that session of Congress, which proposed raising' a military force for the pur pose of commanding, within the United States, obedience'to the laws, not from ourselves, ''but i a foreign power.- And heresuffer me to say, that l l-eally think we are coming back again, slowly -for large bodies (even such as move ' in eltpsis) move slowly after having been long in aphelion, we are returning back lo the day light of thoe good old republican princi ples, of which (as I think, and as I would en deavor to shew, if it could answer any good purpose) we have too long lost sight- Arid after being for velars, one of the procribed and1 denounced, I am not without a saving hope, mat I shall die in the good old pohtical'churdi, at lasti certain I arn,. sir, that I shall die in the faith, whether I die in the church, or" not. 1 I am induced to this belief,- principally, from : 'perceiving .that ..icaAi:seBUmeiR-is..-cQYi. lamed I beg pardon of the committee fW this. egotism 1 believe if it be warranted in any human being, T might fairly challenge a S!'ttO .it now ; scarcely a sentiment is ex pressed ia'eitlier of those speeches of which I was the author (uijlbrtunaiely as it would seem) that I have not heard during the present, ses sion ot v..ongress, Irom lips the most orthodox in this House. 1 hey amounted to this Before you begin thii contest, count the cost : calculateryour means of annoyance as well as of. resistance : your enemy (if she becomes such) is all powerful at sea : if she strikes,, you will ffetl ; bring 'nutters to extremity and you -wi.l have to recede ; not' from your ebiV?-?, but iti p nit of fact, from the ocean." AU this, and more, I have heard urged, not only by the chairman of-tlitco'mn)ittee of thewh6l -House; but .repeatedly by other gentlemen, -nearly as orthodox as himself, on various questions; the navy bill in pjimcular,; and I hwpo hear sentiments of the same" sort when the other bill (army bill) js taken up, which was put Uowi, m order tojoiMhjjesenJL they saw that it was indicted, by the immedi ate hand of the enemy ; and it operated only to goad to a, still higher pitch their iury a- ainst that entmv. But in this caVwhether tk superlative state, w hich can no longer fe riht or wrong was pertectiy tmmauriaij ine system had been such as to impress a great ppriion of, the public with the opinion that J then suite: ings proceeded rrom ne, govern ment ; ,and it ought ''noMo be niattei4 of sur t-nsrthat the popularity "of the government thmilrf h:lve Vten aimUilSlKtl- II wiiw i' the exercise, by all classes and desrrip ions of pidityjnto colli'sfon with powerful ,E,uropen states. pFroin that day we hive been gofmj on from bad to vvorie, until we. have arri t d at borne, for which-a remedy musr be fourid gentle iff you will, altern itive if you please but at arty rate a remeti) however desperate. That which I woul l now propose, is what I had the honor of proposing atj'he last session of Congress, and I think, of mentioning more, than once, on Saturday morning, the 1 8th of .December last : a remedy,- hich, without uiDjearrheibarg-iid jtKe course pur- suea oy me , anmimtrjttiuft--generaHv,1.jave)"""' during this session, been defended and eofo-i gised on positions admitted on at! hands to be! mdispu'.ably true, but which, it was criminal in me to advance three yeais ago. x Then,'." it was little short of treason to magnify ras it was said) the' resources of our rival and depre ciate those of our own country ; now, it is" madness not to perceive our inability to cope with her on the ocean ,". the theatre of bur Wrongs, where redress, to be effectual, must be obtained. Was it not'wiser to raike a just estirnate of bur strength, cr even to under rate it a little, before plunging into a conflict ; ' than afterwards have to abate from our san guine, overcharged expectations I We suffer ourselves to be driven, step by slep by mer cantile cjamor into a situation which has rais. td (whether rightfully or not) more clamor, from the same parties too, t han all the foreign" ii'juries about which they beset" the govern- menl. I uoy, therefore, propose, that they be restored to that situation which, according to their own shewing, is so enviable a one, and against the evils of .-which, I hope, they v.. II Clever again have the hardihood to com L plain to this House, or apply for means of re- dress. It wijl, trieretore', at once be perceived, that I arn not friendly to that part: of the v&T solution, from which my worthy colleague oa my left Mr. Burwell anticipated so much jsjt:enefit ; and Tor the plainest of all reasons because 1 clo net conctive-T7Arfc o be the best means of patching up a reconciliation, and as such, a hope has been expressed from that quarter,. I may be at .liberty to nam-? it between two parties who look at; each o? ther.alfea.dy perhaps, with too jealous an eye arid" for another reason -because 1 lo 'not choose to put out a distant threat, to the exe cution of which, either tluTcapacity ordUpo sition of the country may ; be doubted. Sir, we have dealt in the minaU ry sort of traffic 1 ' long enough, and I have no disposition to be any longer laughed at. We began with the non lmporiation i w. i mat was undoubleoly a threat ; lor a power was gjenl to suspend it, in case "our terms were compiled whfr-, Next ume the embargo : that too vvas toe impended in case and so uv.' No,w- ve are tailed upon to hiig, by a .inpV hairTbver the head of the beliiuerents. the sword of la moclers, io be cutsCTnie lune in June t.exTy" and rii$4yvto my apprt htnsi6n, we might as well make a declaration of war, to' take effect n .the next centuty, as in next June. I speak' as t(phe power of this House, aa Wfcll as ig theA)olicy of the thing. - , 7 ' (To be continued.) r ,k.. u,cxvt : mtience. torbear- uieuguig uie- state, wunoui mongaging everv ancel self denial, long suffrring without yepijljb.jt of land In the country foe the protection intf. It ore siii"0edihe existence of aie . f socie'v iri which there vVas no joccasion tor Soveilim WHEREAS my wife Dinah hath gam maliciously left my licuse and boardj lijaru hereby coagtrained to forv arn.. all- persons J.rom Ifarbounng her, or deaj'ui with her. or giving her credit on my account, fcr I ysill i .rt St inBnui'ifdo f.r 1 rr ,f ! . rrri rurid of the mercantile flasf, in the most remote I . -; - r J seas, wauld permit our merchants to protect j ilJJil!! iaIvcsril-UltdriWWCriwn fUTiry?'-.-'74r;iVpt I u .1
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