2 REPLY TO DOCTOR IViE'S CHARGES President Mclver Makes a Detailed Statement, IN THE CASE OF MISS IVIE I RESIDENT PHYSICIAN AT>VISED AGAINST IIEi: REMOVAL. WHY NO TELEGRAM WAS SENT DR. IVIE President Mover Says Miss Ivie Left the Normal Five Days Before the First Death Among the Students cf That Institu tion Occurred. To the Editor: In yesterday’s paper there apinured tin* following article and editorial comment: * * * l UMTICISES THE NORMAL Dr. <}. M. Ivie Declares the Manage ment Should be Changed. To the Editor: The silence of the {tress in relation to the state of affairs i sit the Normal and Industrial College in j Greensboro is, to say the least, aston ishing. For some unknown reason to ! the public, the press has had but little ; to say regarding this sad affair. This j being a Slate institution and dear to ! the hearts of the people of our State, j Those who have not suffered direct iy are shocked to know that there exists Koine where at this institution a cause that has darkened many homes and made many sail luarts throughout the domains of our State. What this cause may finally be, and who is to blame for same. I cannot say. However, 1 do know that there is some existing eir- ; eumstance that so poisoned the system j of Lie young ladies in attendance that ! in many eases has resulted in death. 1 X have recently stood .by the grave of niy beloved sister, who fell a victim to this deadly poison. 1 was by her bed side for ten days and nights, she was also attended by five other physicians, doing all that medical science and skill could do, yet with no effect. The dead ly poison which filled her system was sufficient to have killed half a dozen strong men. There is a side to this sail picture that is hard to understand. There is a question that the public j would like to have answered. Why was I it that these young ladies, our sisters i and daughters, who were so near and ; near to our hearts, were kept huddled in this pest hole, as it were, until the ; situation was so alarming, with scarce- j ly no knowledge of the sad state of af fairs escaping the college domains? it is now known that several weeks pre vious to the suspension of this school, girls were falling in sickness almost as soldiers in battle. Yet it seems that the management, of this institution, to whose : teiiderest care these girls had been en trusted, all* the while was indifferent, so far as the public knows, treating this as a very slight affair, and is known to have spoken contemptuously iu regard to it even after deaths had occurred in the college. When the news of my sister’s illness reached her hocus a brother went for her. They ~ seemed loth to have her leave, which resulted in her remaining at the col lege amid the poison some days longer. Later, after my sister had grown much worse, she was refused the privilege of sending me a telegram, as to her con dition. One of her friends wrote me by letter of her condition. I went for her at once and found her condition critical, which resulted in her death. I learn this has been the experience or many. What moral or legal right did the management of this institution have, to keep these girls confined there under such critical circumstancesV For com mon sens*- or the exercise of the least reasonable judgment was sufficient to have shown any one that there was something greatly wrong at this insti tution. as many girls as were constant ly falling, in the same condition. This is indeed a serious affair. If it lie criminal indifference and neglect on the part of the management it is nothing more nor less than murder, if it be incompetence* it is surely a scandal. Whatever it may be, it is to be greatly lamented that our Estate institution should be desecrated by a management who for any reason would jeopardize the lives of innocent girls trusted to their care. Were not their lives more sacred than the public welfare and name of this institution? Again, were these girls prisoners of war that they should be held together under any cir cumstances? And it is indeed heart lending, either for criminal iuffifferenec or incompetence, to have them kept confined amid an epidemic whose start ling rapidity was enough to alarm the dull Arab of the heathen world. Yet no word was spoken, no action was ta ken. until the situation was so grave as to force its own way into the pub lic. If even common sense had ruled at this institution, school would have been suspended before my sister and many others wort* taken sick. Tne Normal and Industrial College has been the pride of our State, and from this standpoint, aside from the Joss of on? loved ones, this sad affair is much -to be regretted. Hut whatever has been oui feeling in the past toward this institu tion, however much we have loved it, so long as it remains under the same management, if deserves to become a by-word and reproach among all de cent institutions of *>ur land. G. M. IVIE. M. I>. Stoueville, N. C. | We regret that Dr. Ivie feels called upon to write in this strain. Readers of this paper know that nothing has been kept from the public, but that this {ta per, along with others, has insisted that the facts in the case be ascertained and made public. We have no reason to belk v* that this lias not already beet* done. —Ed.] * * * It is a painful duty that compels un to appear to dispute or contend in any way. publicly or privately, with a man unde:- sore affliction, but there arc* a lew statements iiu Dr. Ivic’s article which it would lie wrong for me not to correct: 'lbis letter either charges dit igtly on produces the impression: N 1. That'the management of this College was unwilling for his sister to go home. ( 2. That the management of the col lege refused to allow his sister to tele graph to him. ff. 'That the management ought to have seen the trouble and closed the college] before his sister and others became illj and that from some reprehensible into-: live the truth was kept from those who had a right to the information. 4. “That the nurnagemeuit was known to speak contemptuously in regard to it J tmeaning the illness of the students)’ even after deaths luid occurred a tne college.” In order to understand the conditions it must lie remembered that .Miss 1 vie left the college five clays before the first death among the students occurred, and when the management, including the phy-j sii-ians, did not think that there was a; case of illness in tin* college that was critical. She reached hemic November loth turd died November 24th. 'Miss Ivie had gone to the Winston fair on Thursday, October 2bt.h. aind our class records show that sire attended recita tions on October lUffh and 31st, being the; Monday and Tuesday following. She. was absent from her classes the other three days of this week, namely, Novems j her Ist. 2nd and 3rd. Otn Sunday, November olh. when s'he had missed only three days front her classes, her brother, Air. A. I). Ivie, of Leaksville, living in her home, came to] see her and expressed a desire to take! her home. Fpon Ills telling me that his; sister would he obliged to go several: miles, (twelve miles, I think it was), j across The country, I called liis attention! to the risk he would be taking, blit said that if he and the resident physician j thought it wise for liis sister to be inov- j ed I would make no objection. The phy-j sician advised against her going on the] ground, I am informed, that she was not strong enough to make the trip. Mr. Ivie was at the college the next day. the •>■' for their sister l have net the shadow of a. doubt, and I am equally confident that at all times those connected with the man agement of this college advised aa:,d did | what they thought *wan for her good. I mention Those circumstances because the management is charge 1 with being “loth to have her leave, which resulted in her remaining at the college amid the poison some days longer.” Tile following letter to Dr. Gove \\ i 1 show that apparently there existed at that time nothing but kind:v feeling to wards the college: Leaksville, N. F. Nov. It). 18W>. Dr. Gove. Greensboro. N. My Dear Madam: We arriv'd home all safe with our sister just before 12 o’clock today. B’h- stood the trip as well a.s we could expect, but got vt-’-y restless and nervous just before reach ing home. Bhe has bien resting fairly well tliis afternoon, a little nervous. I wish to again t'ha ik you an l also others who were so kind to m;. -ister. Hhe seems to appreciate it so much, says she feels like she received even more than her share of attention. With I e«t wishes, I am, Very sincerely, D. IVIE. 1 have asked Miss Kirkland, our Lady Principal, in regard to the telegram of which Dr. I tie speaks. Miss Kirkland’s response is as follows: Greensboro, N. C., Dee. LS, 18ff9. President Charles D. Mclver. /My IK-ar Sir: In reply to your in quiry .1 will say that on the afternoon of tin- 7th or the Bth of November, Miss Ivie sent me by one of her room mates a written message to her 1 wot her. Dr. Ivie. of Stoueville, which she asked I would send by telegraph.. The message was a request that Dr. Ivie would come to see her. I went to Dr. Gove, wish ing her endorsement of any step that. I should take with refer*truce to one of her patients. Fpon reading the telegram she advised that Miss Ivie should write to her brother, instead of telegraphing, as he would receive the letter only a few hours later, and the telegram might alarm him unnecessarily. 1 went To Miss Trie's room and told her what I had done, and The advice that Dr. Gove had given. She assented without demur, saying. ‘A ery well, I will send a letter.” Very truly yours, S. M. KIRKLAND. i )n Saturday. Deceinlier 2nd, I receiv ed the following lot ter from Dr. Ivie. It is the only letter received by me from Dr. Ivie or any other member of the family since Miss Ivie left the college: Stonevillo, N. <*., Dee. 1. 1X1)9. President Mclver. Greensboro, N. F.: Sir: 1 wish, only, to ask you a qu**s tion. Who should have looked after the sanitary condition of the Normal (Al lege? A week ago tonight..my dear sweet sister’s soul took its flight to the God who giveth it. She died of poison, due to the infamous neglect of some one or laxly of men. Was it your neglect, if so. say so. If not, whose was it? Please answer me at once and oblige, Yours, etc., G. M. IVIE, M. D. To this letter 1 sent the following re ply: December •’>, L>,)9. Dr. G. M. Ivie, Stoiiw-ville. N. My Dear Sir: In reply to your letter of December Ist. I mail you a eoiiy of a [ paper containing the report of Dr. R. 11. THR NEWS AND OBSERVER, SUNDAY MORNING, DECEMBER 21, 1899. Lewis, Secretary of tin- State Board of Health. I think that, if it has taken Tin- active and almost daily investigations of ex perts and specialists more than two weeks to discover the cans** of the outbreak of fever, it could hardly ho expected that any one not aiu expert could Have fore seen that eattse before even the fever ap peared and showed that the cause exist ed. This is all that 1 shall say to you in defense of the management of the col lege. I have no heart To argue with a man overwhelmed by-such a bereavement as yours has been. I know that I am not responsible for your sister’s illness, and at another time you would not write so bitterly. As I said to you in a former letter (this was a letter of sympa thy to the family addressed. I think, to Mr. A. D. Ivie. ’wlw lived at Leaksville, and who was the only member of the family I had met.) I have profound sympathy with you and your family in the great loss you have sustained. Very truly yours. ’CHARLES I>. MeIVE/R. I do not understand what is meant by the statement That the management had spoken contemptuously of the illness of the students. I know of nothing that has been said that would justify tin* statement. If. however, this is a part of a general charge of hearth-ssttess on the part of those connected with the management, and of a lack of sympathy and consul- :*- ation for The students, I am perfectly willing for the students themselves to pass judgment upon the matter. Next to th*> families of those who have died, the keenest sufferers in all this tragedy and sad bereavement have been and are the officers anil faculty of this college. There is not one among them who lias not l'clt personally tin* affliction that has conic To us all. aintd there is not one who would not have done anything possible to have prevented the sickness and saved the life of tlu* beautiful an 1 admirable young woman whose death is mourned not it) rely as a personal be reavement but as a distinct loss to tnis college. Before closing l desire to say that at no time have 1 prevented any .student from w riting or telegraphing anything she chose to write or telegraph to her home people or to others. So far from doing so during the recent epidemic, 1 formal ly ask***l tlu* students to give tin* exact Tacts to their home people; and when I was informed by out* physicians, that any student’s illness threatened to become serious, I immediately informed by let ter or telegram the parents or guardian. That 1 did not writ** to Miss Ivie’s home people a bout her illness w as due to the fact that, before she was considered seriously ill. and when she had missed only three days from her classes, her brother spent two days with her. and three days thereafter came with Dr. 1 vie and took her home. There was only one ease of serious ill ness in tin* college during the nnmtb of October and tin* student who had Ib.it ease recovered. In fact, there was less sickness during that month, as show n by lln* daily repniis of tlu* resident physi cian and the daily records of the facul ty. than 1 have ever known in the col lege lire. 1 feel like kicking some doctor or myself for suffering three years when I could have used CIiTIcVRA remedies. Sept. 11, 1898. H. JENKINS, kiiddleboro, Ky. BABY’S FAGESOLIBSORE My little nephew, John Staunton, was afflicted with the worst sores I over saw all over tils body. His bead and face at times were a solid scab amt he Buffered dreadfully. He was a pitiable sight. His father used all tiro remedies that he heard of, and doctored with all the doctoi'3. lie wore a tar cap, also, which did no good, but got no relb.-f until tie used the cuticcua (ointment) am* Guticuba Soap. Now he is a clean, healthy child. March S, 1893. V. E. FOLTZ, Pugh’s Run, Va. CUffCURA Begins with ihe Bleed and Ends with Tha Gkin and Scalp. That Is tosav. 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