State af 11 A. M.' Tomorrow ) : lilt WbAlWR Generally fair Monday and Taeaday, except probably towm m .northeast ceaat; littl change In tenjperatnrV. VATVU LABEL a your-paper. Band renewal five slays lefor expiration In order to avoid miaalng ingl copy. 4 MIC erver VOLCXIV. NO. 109. TWELVE PAGES TODAY. RALEIGH, N. CJWONDXY MORNING, OCTOBER 17, 1921. TWELVE PAGESTODAY. PRICE: FIVE CENTS Greatest Fair Opens -r .-.-' . , . . II-1. lie: Mews lbs IT CI RATIFYTREATIES Asks Pennsylvania Governor To Expedite Appointment Of Successor To Knox HOLD UP CONSIDERATION TO SECURE EXTRA VOTE Senator Simmons Deflnitelj Lined Up Against Ratifica tion; Republicans Need Mar gin Of Only Three Votes In Democratic Banks; Hardin; Tiring Program Too Slow The News and Observer Bureau, 603 District National Bank Bldg., By EDWARD K. BRITTON. (By Hpecial Leased Wire.) Washington, Oct. , 18. Outwardly professing confidence in having suffi cient votes to put across the rntjtica tion of the Harding peace treaties with Germany, Austria and Hungary, the Republicans aro really shaking in their boots over the narow margin for the tiro-thirds vote offthe Semite th.'if is accessary. . How great is their alarm may be oen from the report Current that Governor Sproul, of 'Pennsylvania, hns been asked to expedite the selection of a successor to the late Senator Knox, and to be certain that lie ap points a man who will "sign his name on the dotted lino" when the vote is taken for ratification. Tho treaties re scheduled to be taken lip Monday irhen the Senate meets and is to have the right of way under the unanimous consent agreement, with one hour's debate asythe portion of each Sena, tor, Nqrtll will speak, of course, nnd there is expectation that late Thurs day or possibly oa Wednesday the vote will be taken. ,. Simmons To Oppose Treaty. Admittedly delay, in taking up the treatiei has worked advajitagoously to the opponents of the separate peace treaties. The death of Senator Knox postponed eonsidefation from Friday to Monday n the arguments .of Sena tor Walsh, of Montana, against the terms oi the treatiei strangthened the backbone of tha opponents, v u was only today that the Washington papers .if. ),,. Km,tr Simmons would vote .against the treaties, this first published exclusively in the News and Obaerver. t " 2EE?3EZ W.Uh"t ,; on nointa .sn'owintr various Wnnti.tnnVi.. ealline attention in nirtirnlBr to tie inconsistent position of the United States in aiding in hriv- firmni7 .iirrendcr its fleet anil re- Hne it. umv to the suinllnoss of po. 1U. rnteetinn. on the theorv that .it wm,M h. ntMtHl' bv tha Leaeue ofl'"r-v inr "r, "h introduced him to .1 .!,',,;., nnt.r the dengue and add to its strength lr.inii,i7 il.n world nt neacc. ' Margin Of Three Votes, i As stated before tho Republicans with , the full Senate voting. will need t4 ' votes. With the seat-of Senator Knox not filled and with Senator Morris, who is ill, absent, ti:t votes will be re. qnired to ratify. If the Republicans, with 60 members of the Senate, poll 56 votes as j they now ialeijl.it". iiictu.l ing Senator J.ndd, North ,Iak'ta, wljose vote is uncertain, Rehators Borah, Iji follette, and Nrris being against ratification, then they will need only seven Democrats of the 30 in tho Sen 'ata. The counting of nose indicates that there are 26 Democrats who sre unalterably' opposed to ratification leav ing 10 Democrats upon whom the Re publicans are rtlying, a margin of but three votes for the ratification advo cates. If four of the ten Democrats re. garded as "sure for ratification change, their views, then ratification will fail in the present form of the treaties. The nnusual feature in the situation, one that is provoking much criticism and dissatisfaction among the Demo crats, is 'that Senator Hitchcock, f..r mar leader of the minoritv and lender in the fight for the Versailles treaty and the Jjenguc or .Nations, una oi-o Senator Underwood, present minority leader, who has previously argued against a separate peace treaty, are both in line for rati cation, their sup port making it possible for the lie publicans to pick up, enough DeniocratV votes to make the necessary two thirds. With over twr thirds of the Democrats against ratification the leader and for. 1 mer leader are with the miruirity. If Senator Underwood changes' front there is ho doubt but that raf ification will be defeated, for with him would gol other Democrats new regarded as on the fence." Democrats Still Hepefal. But the Penioennts opposing ratifies tion. led by Senator I 'at Harrison of Mississippi, have not lout heart and have a feeling th.it seme of the Demo crsts -now telked off by Repiibllrar.s for ratification may yet join f heiii" T r they' hold sc mr of these to be in the doubtful list. And delay, gives oppor tunity to press home arguments to bring them into the ramp nt the anti ratificitionists. The outcime up to tlie lasts moment will he in doubt, and the result may hinpe ujio n si.n.c of 1. r. ervations whi; h ni'l be offered. Thst the Kepul.heaiis will stretch the blankets i s wido as K).ss:lde to get Democratic votes in pjneh is ic garded as eertcln but there are reserva- Hon wh ieti --tirar - b-r rwprnt .rj - -try Drtrr oerats whime rejection will drne the so-called "doubtful IVmoerats" in to line against trea'y ratittration. Repablirana Not Sat is led liven the speed that the Harding ad ' ministration has shown in ousting Democrats from the Federal pnv roll t . 1 u. ,(CaUasM4 rag Twe) Leaders Of "Big -' . Th -iii iij' f i' ' III ft i r .ay a. - a ? y. . ; . . - T L A,:' Y w AU0UI Oetnlx r Ju . iiil ;i u i .nt , net xliot k '.t t'Hit ,;i . . in making cimimeiit, ijtit the impre'-sioii pi. wills that the a.tiu m it r-it tun Mill act before permitting a nation wide -iuituot ria I - warlnre to be mauv)iratM u the eve of the I iite.nati.nal Armamenl Ccnfereiue :rnd ul.ile th- ino eiiieut of winter fuel is at its height1. The labor committee is c.unpwrd m" . (;. Lee. presidint of the Hrotlierhooil of Haihvav Triiinnieu: Warren S. Stone, president f tho Ix.'oinot ive Kngiiieers: I.. K. Shepptird. )reiiletit of Kailw: v ouiluet.irs; W. S. Carter, president of h" Brotherhood of Iei.iiutive Kireae r and Kngi neers, and 1'. t'. t'a li.u, jiresident of the Switchmen's I'nion of Ame'.cfl. PERSHING ARRIVES General Wet At Victoria Sta tion In London By Distin guished Committee Oot. i8.(By the AstoeUt.d - ' wul "u Press.) General Pershing, who comes to London to tnko part in the cere monies atteudmg the laying of Ui-e Con- gressional mediil on the tomb of Br.i ''' -unknowh-Mldier-.r,ived here from Pari? at 7 o clock lonight. He was t t Victoria station by a dis tn'guishcd reception committee from the van. .us government departments. The general was the tirst of the -party te tfP train iind was greeted by ,sir Laming W.rt h.iigton Lvans, were tile oilers while hundreds of onlooker who had streamed in through the gates applauded. , " General Per-liing went direct to, tlic Amer.can vin-.assy when- he wilt stay vn"1 IM i"'iii(Mi ni.u m.er was m,' guesT of tiie Ajni',.sxuilor and Mrs.. Harvey at a dinner p.uij . "The Star. .-,.:'uigied Raniie-r,'' ren dered by the Vviish iJua.J.i tanl and the cheering of tliousandj .gr.-ivej the composite bnttabnn .from Cohlenz when the apccial train rolled in'n Victoria statioa.tno hours after the arrival of General I'ershiug. The bat! ilion Can slsts of 4.V;t men from the i'J, L.atn aad tifinili liifnutry with a band of thirty pieces and twenty oiii.-era, all under command of Ma; it. O. liar ton. It was'weleomid in the ii.n:e of the British army by Maj.T iie.;.r.il Hugh button, representing the army council. Hit battalion was huur on the way from Uic Rhine. The nflial parly wiii.ii v.ill particl tte in tomorrf.w 'a ceremonies eoiisisi ing ot l.iiv men and fiiti'en oi.Ke.s from the Ojympia, also arrived toy.giit. vi he naval men had a similar reception ley crowls of admirers, 'ibc saiiors will be tne guests of the British Naval Asso ciat.cn duriug the.r s.ay iu jAin.loa. SOME lltiPriOVclVlENT IN Gcn. Mb I lb' CU.JUlllOf, V : I ri ,u(:oii, Oct. lli. lue condition of C i the .N . J. .ines l.'M'',Nt commander ot rtli Carolina Conteilerate eter i .01:. wno v. a s'-viTeiv in.iured ollltt.on l,etU'. II his .llltoue-blie -:.. i iir t .ic ves'.r'lav was .' ha in ;r his plis,can. 1 io.i(ivf s-ording t" DIRECTS RH::i;IIF TO RKEST l'UI.K. KiGHT I'KOMtirERri Wichita, K . (I. t. 1 Kiehard J. Hopkins, at'oriK-r (i- io ral fo-r the Stat? of Kansas lon.glit d re. te I ShenfT Houn Siminons to arrest proniuS.rs of til Gibbons (J'I)ow n fiht, whom li.-i'l aireail) '. , atiU the stat.e .aw regu latn.g -r.rc t.hts, in tl.at th.y hav profiiotfl aii'i ah.:;i-'.i the light T be held Tit . . lay ni-lit. SETS NEW WORLDS REC HI) IOK Al'.OMOBl!. KM IM. Dallas, Thus. tM. lie Sig tiiiirgda'ul. motor ear racer, yrfofa neirtiatd and vli.ea it was s'ated would Ik re garde I as o8n'ia!. The wil reeor I .if 44 .'I-' seconds . :n been hel l , 'form y Ml. 'or ; it 1 li. o :. i',.ike field, Cal. ONE IV HOSPITAL ANOTHER IX J AIL Ad KESI LT OF AFl'i; VV. Wjlson, Iht.-IK -In an uffrTiy 8w tl. i tobacco district this aftenioon bit ieei two white men, K. Vi, Ham-, of thf Uicama section, and Larry Lamm, of this city. H.-m eu' Lonm in the neck. Ham U in jail and Laruat ia in a local feoapiUl tg- -wakBl Mkditioa. 1 iv.otor rnr racer, yestcriay.iejr.ot!aii-ll.. , " "'? " ' ' i-e .liiij,- in 41 ..H.t i! oiThe TTa"tT'-eK1:'R- " l-'air rt-el'n,y here iim set ,h ofli ''C P'OTPCD I l I t ,:.!s divbrednas a aeic worM'i r. . r.l AlLLO li.U J 1 1 C.n-1 li'Lh i four" Brotherhoods nie road tf-.k' nould Ix-giii ml uhwgton. tltib iul- nere eban it Federal Prohibition Director Says He Is Getting Together Strong Force During Ue three months lit Ka.; Lfeti in -ofllvie, fViioral Prohibition Iirpotor R. A. Kho rej-orts that his force has dcstroyi'd $75,(K wcrth t property Usctl for .distilling parpuves and has rvportnl tax-" and p.-naltit'fi to thf1 amount of Thf. total nuniK-r of arrests m.ifie is given as 117 white -18 have n recommended for proseu lion. I'lrt-otur Kuhloti' tobulated report shoa litftttT p utlts fi r September tlian for the t tv.. prere,lr:g innntht, liU'li Nuy b ia .U' to liij.t favt thit tit ha tot n d. I,iy"-l in getting together a' foree of men in nympaihy w.tli tie: prohibition law . 11 in report t the Ne's and 0!itit t.'lj.'t : Appr atiftri "dr nr't i;ilwpfl( in th.- fnft-ii ( mtnf nl pr..hitntn.n in North ';r.lin.t hw thini.uik' thai yon wowtrt ht ini rtst t it. lini.w ttt fiTurls mfttit1 by mis bur an ri , fiforcinK in lr tTn Jaw, I, am hTwlTh g-iving " J h- ff trial b'tatt. nii i.t ut rt Auh a -' r- pt-rt r our tf ! I n. n. i :irs9, Uiri ttg t lie mn t hs of August ant .-;Tt ;nb r, tv. tu n"t have a full iVro t "ffM'fru, rir tun ri'itson thiit .i rr 1 1 tnu to select mTi t' fill th o?- "ffirt s who arti in nvrnsp n h with th. r-h ; l-it if rt law, -Uiit arv r-iii i f; : zin& vvtr appU iftt with that ut"S. it, iTiip't hent ourjt l !.. in .ipp"M i.Tps aU t .-. .. men iisaiitnp! t" Mti bure-.u No. .f iU',t i -Mill' r i n nfii.l anl deotrovt-t July. f.r. . A u-Mist 75 , St-p-t im ler 1 " N ' 'f st i i i wnMin weired and sts'strt. etl .lnl. 1 "i . Auiist u: Si-t t i ii lit-r Nn t: i'.'U li'im r 7.i2irt nn. vVMrntfd. July. io. Auc ust. 4iT , St pi, mho r 3r.; No 'f Ur mntr.'i 8'iz ft aii'l rl- m rf- ! Jul , T.lti; Avtiu-'t SIM, S-'PT int."-. 1 . t i N ' f n a U p ri ie t ne.Tt.! jum! 1 s t i . vt-d Jul, .'' !o0. Afi-'t fifc it. S ptem b r. N-. f.f rai'nn win. t. its.) ;nl it,-Mr. . -I Julv. i.f . August. j-,ti s- Hi nilwr I.S'tH N f f-rson rr--.--if.! .I'ily L'4 Aium: Ho . vtcni-ht-r,' Ni f.f i" rs.'iiH r- mrri' ii'lfil f..r pn st t,i "a r, July uROf-t. 39; St--ptt r. 114- T'.tTl appr.' is il valu ..f riir! fi-"fl .IiiU. ?.t Antciipit, $,:.. :-. ,.t 5 r f." T 1 3 ) ap- .1 v.' '! f.f. pri.p t"T v r- - ' r- vt 1 n.CV'l. A-(rr.. S'-ptrm- I 1 .-r. J J 1 "i'1 Tot j I a im'-hm fi ta :,nd M'!aif( J m v JTl. ofi. AllK--5t. rtji1!':. 5 Mt.'r-.l.. r. 11 71 447.17 Auc-nu 'a'- -iZ''l J li ! 'J; AumiM.: 1 . Pt' nil t. S. Hr. s :t htiffRi f :? .1 ul . f ; A ii"i t . S pt niber. I T J t ami wa-Ms y iz. t : Julv. 0 AiiRU'-t . f Sfptfti hrr : 'rin hnat v-izt-.i Jil, AuKtjst. 1. pt' mbr, IMPEHI.M. WI?APD V.ILL RESUME STAND TODAY 'A; siiit;1un. Oct. H. William J Siii'in'.ns. fnii;,ler nnd Imnriai Wir-nr.i ot tbe Ku Klu Kiau, will be able Ij. r.-Mime I. is defence of the orq.iniz.'ition l.-f..fe the Ht.itsp R'l'es committee to morrow, h.s physieians annoiih.-.d to night. Tl-ey r. ported that he e as rr l .v er.iitj el f j'or. y from nn attaelt ! At thfoat tr. ...Me nnd exhaustion. in' of. tie co:;. '.i i' r re indicntel if Mtr. .J'iiu'uiOC.S'. .h-.l,th... l.s rieit!fll iiimXto re " the st'r-d the n xt se sionVould be given t-i cross e v 'mir. i .ort irriird . ri" o :t-.tet-i,'s u f- o - 2 i n :7..t...n mil LAW HlfiiSELF KILLED BY SON Wr.g"svi'le. - Oct. . ' . t '. l' - o- n -r l.a. d.-o iip t. tl f-ont e'e of '. rr,.. -vr -Trs f, . .ifrl Will.- m .'. here et 5 o . -k this afterm mi calmly walked from h s a ito feeble fo the front' ;wrch. hers Mrs n-'ii w..i sif g and chbt her thrvn'i 'he head, hte dis-d !tsntJy. In a duel a minute later rth Mrs Hnell's son Marvin, t.atlin h'mself was shot and killed before be had tinle to leaf tU Mtdh. KOHLOSS SUBMITS FIGURES ON IRK I ME VANDERBILT H UE SOME HISTORYAT FAIR First Woman Ever To Preside At Opening Of Historic Event SHE WILL nifRODUCE GOVERNOR TO ASSEMBLY Army Of Workmen Worked Feverishly All Day Yesterday Preparing Exhibits For Opening Day; Parade Head ed By Governor Morrison and Mrs. Vanderbilt Noontime tomorrow will write a new chapter in the long annuls of the State Fair when the curtuin is lifted upon the hectic week by the hands of a noinnn, ihe first woman in the history of the State to preside at a function that has become traditional in the archives of the commonwealth. At noon Mrs. George W. Vanderbilt, president of the Mate' Fair Assoeia tion. will, in keeping with custom, pre sent to the assembled multitude the (lovernor of North Carolina, and he in turn Mill deliver the historic cratioa with wlii.'h all fairs have been opened, ltut few tunes in history has there been an openiiiR without the (iovernor. Preliminary to tho urinal opening of the fair will be the parade, also a thinj established deeply in tradition. The parade, un.b r the guidance of the chiet marshal, (.eneral John Vanll. Mutts, will move from the C'ty Auditorium, headed by the First Keiriment Band, followed by the Governor and Mrs. Vanderbilt." Fi pert Big Crowd. Attendance tomorrow promise 1.. break records. Openings in reoenl tunes Iihvc descended into perfunctory Inrtoalisio, but tomorrow there will be tbe iKacious Mrs. Vanderbilt, who has stirred anion? the people of the. State an unusual interest, to Add attraction to the event. Raleigh will likely turn out in large numbers, and from over the Htate will come other thousands to attend the opening. Yesterday the fair gronmls were the scene of feverish activity and again to day likely a new access of energy. Hun dreds of exhibits are not yet in places .he Kubin and Cherry shows hav not yet established themselves. A thousand e..p!e worked through hc day yester day, arranging exhibits, putting up tents, and doing tha two thausnnd and two things that always have to oc done the last minute. Hundreds of animals, thousands of chickens, bale after bale and crate after crate of individual, community and county exhibits were delivered on the grounds during the day, and tne ex lnbiteiM legan the task of making them ready for the eyes of the multitude that are cording. This morning activity Will be redoubled,,, md before tomor row noon transformation will have been worked. Barren walls will have blossomed with Ihe multitude of things that the Stat" can boast of. Bleak and gannt exhibit hulls will have burgeoned forth in the irlory that is North" Carolina. There is more of everything this yar han ever before in the history of the BlHte Fair, and Tar Hacls who think they know all -about North Carolina) will stand back in open mouthed wonder when they see whnt the Mate really can do. Notable already in the vast array of exhibits is the western element of the State's wealth. Mrs. Vanderbilt has stirred the people to a veritahie freazy of exhibition. Counties from the moun tain region hav come down with an nrrny of their products that will be ...thing less than startling. They have been a little more fore handed wits their arrangements than easterners,, md their sections of the exhibition halls had alrc.idv Ivgun to blossom jester day. JAPANESE DELEGATES SAIL FOR CONFERENCE YokohMiia, Oct. 15. 'By the Asso . i.ited I'rcs - Members of the Japa nse del. rat on to the Washington conference ..n limitation of Armnments ;i 1 Far Kistern questions sailed tins' afternoon fur the To t.'d- States nn hoard the steamer Kashima Maru. The newspapers say th" delega'-on eamcs "irh it Hi.- di-nrm;i"i nt p"i ry of tlo .lap'iii. se i;.Vn;ii.i fit fnrinueit.'d by th'1 cobinet . oniii il ue.l appr.d by tl,-1 advisory council. A cope of hese Hi stTUction wis bonded tod y to the inerieaii Ambassador. There sat a treii 'nddns erow.f at the pier to bid the delegation farcvell. Old res;.ei,'s of the city said that they had nn. r w.' ncss.- 1. a jjrr.iter ova! en. t'-.r ' -ir hea ipmnrd th" route of the del' sates along the pier Viseoait t'-hida, 'hi f'ir. iu i;ii'ii'.er .'nn a. ' aiii-'r t '.eTd. 1 "JaTlin" tv1-:.-)-. i I.' ' I v 1'' - Tel. ;ana, prescient of t'.- IT :,. of '-. ti. fro-.i Tokio to . U-.' i. s I t. ! Asso.' a'ed l'r'-is c r'.sj. .f I. i... ! --v. .ng tiie sap: ' May ths beaut ii .il Japanese day typify V. . s.ii c.. nferei.ee, lejdieg to I :,n.;..it . is c', . p,r .tion of Ihe powers rd le'iVing the w, r!d happier.1' CUM3ERLAnD JURY STILL OUT ON WILLIAMS CASE Kaye'teiiHc, O t. 1(1 Th jury trying J. Mari'.ia'l WiUisms oif is sie of sanity or insmt.i'y in eonnc. 'ion wi'h the kil'ing of r.fllcer Pate July is st 11 out. They took the case u' one o'clock Saturday afternoon Trial eoiiiriieni' d in su fieru.r court h-ro Tuesday after aooa, October li. FINAL DETAILS ARRANGED FOR PROPOSED WALKOUT OF ALL RAILROAD EMPLOYES Nothing But Miracle Can Stop Strike, Union Head Declares Cleveland, Oct. 16. With tlie an nouncement today that the big Five Railroad transportation chiefs will meet hero Tuesday to discuss plans for car rying on the nntion wido progressive railroad strike that has been set to begin at 6 a. m. Sunday, Oct. id, W. G. Lee, president of the Brotherhood of Kai'Miad Trainmen, declared that noth ing but a miracle can prevent the strike going into effect. Mr. Lec returned to headquarters to day from Chicago where yesterday the Ave transportation organitatinns ord ered tho strike and at onco began send ing out official notices of the strike order to approximately three hundred general chairmen of his organization who (lid not attend the Chicago con ference. General Chairmen of the four other organizations attended the con ference and were given their orders there. "Nothing but a miracle can stop this strike," said Mr. I.ee'. ''Stilly there may bo a savior iu some place, but I am afiaid not." Mr, Lee explained that tho strike or der was final, and definite no provis ions beng made for a postponement of action. Only a satisfactory settle ment before the date set for the striko to begin has been provided for in tho instructions sent to the general chair men. Grand officers of the Brotherhood of l II F Railroad Walkout Would Have Little Effect Except To Close Packing Plants Chicago, 111., Oct. 16. (By the As sociated Press). A railroad ttrike would have little effect on the average large Industry of the Middle West but would result in closing down all of the packing plants within three weeks ami undoubtedly would foree many jmall factories to close, representatives of some of the chief industries of this rsgion said tonight. Tentative plans were being drawn np through which it was said Chicago and the larger cities conld be k"pt sup plied with most food commodities al though it was believed that meat sup plies would run short i quick'y, the packers asserting that their stoiks on hand are smaller than in many years. An official of one packing concern said that the meat packers had been operating nt only 3.") per cent norms! strength for more than a year and 'hni as they were entirely dependent nn the transportation systems, they could not operate during an effectivo railroad strike. Approximately 7.",n00 men would be thrown out of work through closing of tho Big Five packing plants, officials said although in normal times the num ber would, have been much larger. Georgo R. Meyercord, president of the Illinois Manufacturers' association -iid aeports ho had received indicated that the larger industries would have no trouble in operating in spite of a railroad strike. "There would be no general tie up of ' industry." SECRETARY DAVIS LEAVES FOR WASHINGTON CONFERENCE Indianapolis, fnd.. Oct. 10. Secretary of Labor Davis left here tonight for Washington, having been summoned there by President Hard-rig in connec tion with tho threatened Nat'onal rail road strike. The Labor Secretary would make no comment on the threat ened strike saying the summons from President Harding entailed a request that he mahe no s'ateinent regarding the situation until he had returned to Wi' li ington and conferred with members of the Labor Board there. RAILROADS OFFICIALS SAY THEY CAN OPERATE LINES. Chicago. Oct. IB. By tho Associated Press.) Itcspite the insistence of union "IVmlj that tlw strike would paralyze the transportation system of the c.un try, railroad officials s'ead fast iy terun tained that they would be nl.l to nprrnte their li'ies.. A majority of them in sta'emeiits last jiiglit and today, serrec. incllre,! to believe that a sink" '.. eild not actually- be put into eftec'. Several took the attitude that a s'-ike wou'd bo a strike ngaint the eovernment snd not against the rail roads. RAILROAD IIED SAYS IT SEEMS INCONCEIVABIW. Chicago, Oct. 16. The suggest I.. n in 'WaiTiTnfc'on ly'the PiiMic ;eip of tbe H ilrinl Ijil-'.r Board that the recent ::g red u'.i .n atttlrbrixed by the board '.e passed along by the.rowis in lower ) i fr-ight mtes as, a possible means of avert, ng the threatened railroad striko "s nn inconceivable st first gl lice," Snioiicl M. Felton, presi b n't .if the Chi ;ieaV Great Western Railroad, said tnnigl.t when informed of the suggestion by The1 Associated Press. GEORGI A R MI. ROAD DOESN'T - - KM5CT-TO- HAVB STRIKE Atlanta, (.a., Oct. 19. Tho Atlanta, Birmingham and Atlantic Railroad whi has about 640 miles of trackage in Alabama and Georgia is not expected to be affected by the proposed nation wide strik- s, i to start October 3', CeJ B. 1 Bugg; reoeiver for the road, said tonight. middle m m WEATHER STRIK Engineers were arriving here tonight for conference tymorow with Gapd Chief Warren 8. 8tone at which they will receiv final instructions before departing for the districts over which they have supervision, Mr. Stone, W. H. Carter, president of tho llrotheihood of Firemen and fcn ginenien; U i. Kheppnrd, president of the Order of Railroad Conductors, and T. C. Cashen, president of the Switch men's Union of North America, sre ex pected to arrive here tomorrow to take part in Tuesday's conference. Orders for calling off the strike in case a "satisfactory agreement" has been reached are contained in sealed code messages mailed te all general chairmcu with the official strike order, which are not to be opened outil re ceipt of a code telegram. If this rodu telegram and tho scaled code message aro identical the general chairman will know tho strike has been settled. All the code telegrams sent to the general chairmen aro worded differently, and the geueral chairmen in passing along similar instructions to local chairmen, will use different codes also. The purpose of using this code sys teui, rather than ono general code word it was said, was to prevent the brother hoods being imposed upon should the code word fall into improper hands, or otherwise. I Public Group Of Railroad Labor Board Offers Suggestion To Settle Strike Washington, Oct. If Immediate translation of the reaaetlani author ised last July In wages of railroad employees Uto reduced freight rstea was suggested by the public group fo the Railroad Labor Board to. night aa "one feasible plan by which the present controversy ran be settled and a strike averted." "If the rallroada will immediately, la good faith, adopt thla euggrs tion,'' the Public Group said In the Drat ststement Issued since arrival In Washington, "the sitaation can be cleared np, freight rates re duced to shippers, the cost of living reduced to consumers, and a atima lating effect exerted upon all busi ness." I'nder the plan suggested by the public group, the railroads would withdraw their rrpueat for farther wage reductiona, until freight reduc tions have been completed, and "pending action of the board on snch petition (or further reduction aa the carriers nay subsequently submit.' the I'nlons would ith draw ths strike order. Tho suggestion was based, the state in "ii t said on one put forward by W. W. Atterhury vice p resident of the Pennsi lranin railroad before a c.mven tion in Chicago last Friday. Immediate reduction in freight rates, it was asserted, would operate to the benefit of the istimiid employes an., ''nouid constitute one of the statutory grounds for a further reduction in wages," while, through reduction of the cost of material, it would to that ex tent relieve tho railroads of the neces m f y of "relying mol.-ly upon wage cuts for a reduction of their operating ex penses " Can Clear I p Sitaation. The statement gn.n out by Ben W Hooper, a member of the group said in part : ''There iK at hast one fensiblo plan hv whi.h it can he settled and a strik. ai.Ttc.'. . g "If the railroads ill immediately, in good fairfi, adopt tins suggestion, the situation ran be cleared up, freight rates reduced to shippers, the cost of living reduced to the consumers, and a styou laiing effect eierted upon all business. "We would Sugg"" that tlie wage cut of July lot La linuslated nt ome int-j a reduction of freight rates. This would I much more tangible and satis factory t. the public than to promise that future wane reductions will be passed on to the people in tho form of reduced freight rates. The public un doubtedly expected this result whan the July wage reduction was mu.le, and its consummation now, though somewhat delayed, would bo highly gratifying That direct 'benefits would promptly fol low ajid that the psychological effect eViild be instantly beneficial cannot bo doubt d." Make Definite Proposal. Pulling these suggestions into definite propositions, the group members pro posed the following: eiIt the carriers immediately give a general rate reduction measured by the July wage reduction snd the benefits derived from the new rules; and do vised under the supervision of the in tersl.ite commerce commission to afford ths greatest degree of relief to the puliKcT ' "J" "L1- Iet the request for further Wage reductions be withdrawn nntil the rate reductions have been completed. "J At snch time ss the carriers deoin advisable, let them present to the Kail- road Ijibor Hoard their petition for atl further reduction in wages, baf.d. apon coaJiUona then listing. URGE REDUCTIOr! IN FREIGH RATES Removal Of Pennsylvania and Erie Roads From First Group Gives Eastern Roads Two Days Of Grace UNION LEADERS NOW PLAN FINAL. WALKOUT FOR NOVEMBER FIFTH . & N. Railroad Also Semored From First Group, But Sea board and Southern Still Remain; Chicago Deserted By Leaders Of Bit; Four Brotherhoods and Hub Of Situation Transferred T Cleveland, Where Presidenti Of Five Unions Meet Tomor. row To Complete Grouping Of Railroads; Shop Crafts Defer Call For Strike Chicago, 111., Oct. 16. -An alteration today in details of the plan announced! lor a progressive National strike of railroad employes, ordered to begin o October 3D, today gave the caster states at. least two daya of grace haw foro the proposed milk.iut would be come effective in that region. Ths) Pennsylvania, and the Krie roads, in. eluded originally in tho lint group o which Ihe strike was ordered, were re moved from that list, thus ex 'hiding at the start all states east of Chicfgo and north of the Ohio River. The San liiego and Arizona railroad wr.s adde.l to the first of the four groii into which the union have divided th roads for strike purposes and it uaa decided to order the three succeeding groups out at 4H hours intervals instead of 24 hours upart. I'ndi this plan ith the men on the roads in group number one walk.ng siut October IP the strike would be in full tffcet November .. L. & X. Also Dropped. The Louisville and Nashv.lie railroa-1 also, was dropped from thx- first group, according to ths list given out by tbe union leaders. These changes were said by union leaders to complete asaigumcnt "of roads lo the first group on which walkouts would take place and th following was made known as the official list of car riers in that group: Kansas City Southern. M issmi ri Pacific, St. Ianiis Southwestern (cotton bclt.i. International and l.reat North ern. Texas and Pacific Southern Pacific 'Atlantic, system including Houston, Fast and West!, Texas and Houston, Texas Central, Southern Pi.eifie (Paei tic system I, San Diego and Arirona, Chicago and Northwestern, Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Paul f except Chicago, Terre Haute add Southeastern), North em Pacific, Southern Railway (lines east nnd we.tr, Seaboard Air Uric, Virginian Railroad, Chieagi Ureal; Western, ( hi.ae... R..ck Island an I Pacific. Transfer Not Explained. While no othcial information was forthcoming as to simrmip th Pennsylvania lines would be placed in, it was understood they would be as signed to group No. li on which tins walkouts ire scheduled to Vtart Nuw-m-her li. All walkouts ar scheduled to b. gin at o a m ; standard time. The transfer of the lVnnsylvani-a lines from tiruiip 1, was unexplained l.y union lead, rs, but caused consider able surprise as the road has been con sidered l.y tim unions a t'le most antagonistic of any ti them and it was believed tha' the first strike would lj ordered on it. By midnight tonight Chicago had been deserted ,v virtually all of tho leaders of tlie llig Four Brotherhoods and tho Switchmen's I'nion of North, America an.) the organizations in whicit an oSicial strike ,M actually had been issued, and the hill, of Hi.- situation wa liemg transferred to Cleveland uliero the presidents of these live unions will meet Tuesday t.. complete fhe group ing of the railroads and settle the final details of the .rnp.,eil wjilkout. Telegraphers to Join Strike The I'nion forees gained strength to day when Thomas M. Pierson, vi.e jiresidont of Ihe Or dec of Railroad Tele graphers. announced that the tjl.isiO members of his organisation positively were pledged to strike and that thry would make eV. ry , rT,,rr r completely tie up the oi.nl ic'a transportation sys tems. "It is our i., in to tie up transporta tion so couplet. i that it will 1 im possible for a train to move," said Mr. Pit rson. "It every telegrapher iiuits work that will mean that no train or ders can lie sent and tran servico necessarily will . st a standstill. There is ao question but that we will order nor nieinm rship out on October 3", but the final instructions probably will not be Issued ont'l October 21." Ij iff ore nee between -oflieisls of the railroad telegraphers' however, regard ing the order's status in connection with the strike were disclosed ia a state ment made by E. J. Manion, president of the order who on being advised of Mr. Pierson's announcement declared the vice president had not been au thorized to give any statement whatso ever. "The policy of the Order of Railroad Telegraphers has not bee formulated and will aot be known nntil October 21," Mr. Maaioa declared. The shop craft anions, comprising about 476,000 'employees, today deferred ths formal issuance of a strike call pending a meeting to be held her Wednesday bat their leakier hav flU cially announced their ergiuuiations) jCatlasl on Pag Two)