' - r ' " ' .FROM ' - ,', . .; r. .
Is EXCELLENCY, THE GOVERNOR,
TRANSMITTING A PLAN
BY WHICH A COMPANY MIGHT BE ORGANIZED,
' " TO ESTABLISH
FROM
GASTON TO CHARLOTTE.
To the Senate of North Carolina :
Th answer to the Resolution of your Honorable Body, adopted
LEGISLATIVE DEBATES.
work is completed, (when its profits will reliero us from even that) :
when we remember that the value of our present Railroad interest grett
ljff.poteiUiVe!y ijepends on the success f th'is echeinewe nouM took
well to the consequences of its rejection. v'. For the question arises wbat
shall be done with the Railroad we now own T We havein that, a prop
erty costing originally a million and a half of dollar? and worth, if put in
perfect repair, probably half of that sum. It now indifferently accom
modates the country, and saves annually a large amount in time, totbe
Icrhta nnA t rarLSDortation. but vielda no profits on Ue
... .'. . .t. n:. , k-hmd thought that injustice would be done the Cona-
capital invested. In accepting the public, trusts weny, wb 1 of y.ncyTby proceeding with the election,
assumed a stewardship over this, as well as other public interests atfd 1 1 Mp; Rayner replied that he wished it to be noted,
therefore cannot resign ourselves 10 supineness anu innjiun. a ue iuc
can scarcely be entertained, that it should be abandoned to waste ; and
with the liuiited fortunes of individuals among us, it could hardly be
HOUSE OF COMMONS November 30.
; Mr. Rayner moved to send n message to the Sen
ate proposing to go into nn election of Attorney
General on to-morrow, at 12 o'clock. Mr. Itnyner
said that he did this of his own accord, without con
sultation with party without party arrangement,
and upon his" own responsibility,
vi' Mr. Ellis opposed going into the Election on tbe
ground that all the Counties were not represented ;
v-t a ..!nnf a r 1 -i n
on the 30th ultimo, requesting tne uovcrnor io wpu.i-w
by which a Company might be organized, to establish a continuous line
of Railroad from Gaston to Charlotte, in which the State should become
a Stockholder, and to which she might transfer the Raleigh & Gaston
Railroad, in payment ef her subscription for Slock, as intimated in his
Message : I have the honor herewith to lay before you, a Memorandum
and Project, of such arrangements as are, in my opinion, necessary for
these purposes, accompanied by a further Memorandum of Statistics of
those portions of the State that lie contiguous to that part of the pro
posed Road which is yet to be constructed. 1 also send with the same,
a small Map of the State, with a straight black line drawn from Raleigh
.to Salisbury and thence to Charlotte, representing the new work pro
jected, by the most direct route. What deflections from this, may be
necessary, to secure one most favorable for the objects intended, can
only be determined by practical Engineers, upon a reconnoisauce and
survey of the country.
It will be perceived that the plan proposed, contemplates three ob
jects, namely : 1st. The construction of a great work of Public Im
' provement, of incalculable value to the State. 2d. To adjust the suits
pending against the Stockholders and obligors of the Raleigh & Gaston
Railroad Company, by requiring them to subscribe, or to procure sub
scriptions, in this new enterprize, to an amount equal to what might be
recovered against them ; so that the State may obtain the benefit of such
possible recoveries, in the construction of an important line of Railroad,
and the defendants may pay them without ruin, and with a prospect of
ultimate remuneration. 3d. To convert the State's investment in the
Raleigh & Gaston Railroad, now yielding no profits, and requiring ex
pensive repairs to enable it to do so, into a Slock of $500,000, in a hue
of near three times its length, which may be aptly compared to a Toll
ttride, uniting the Roads North and South of us, and therefore having
the most reasonable expectation of profits on its Capital, from distant
transportation, as well as from the great increase of that, nearer homo
From the Memorandum of Statistics herewith sent, it. will be seen
that the projected Road, by the direct route, would pass immediately
through Counties, containing a population, according to the census, of
1840, of 104,000 persons, and real estate valued in 1847 at $9,000,000;
that in the Counties within 25 miles tlereof there is a population of
246.000, and real estate to the value of $20,000,000, and in those with
in 50 miles, the population is 411,000, and the real estate valued at
634,000,000. If to these we add the seven Counties West of the Blue
. Ridge, whose inhabitants, by means of this work, would be brought by
three days' journey nearer to New York and to their own seat of Gov
ernment, and Warren, Halifax and Northampton, situated on the pre
sent Road, and therefore to be benefited by the extension Westward
and Southward, we shall have a population of near 500,000 souls, own
ing Lands, valued at more than $40,000,000 : that is largely over three
fifths of our whole population, the proprietors of two-thirds in value, of
: our entire real estate, who may be said, to have a direct local and per
sonal interest in its construction. What business would be furnished
for a Railroad, by a moral, industrious anJ energetic population of this
number, with so great an amount of wealth invested in the soil alone,how
much it would add to that wealth, and increase their numbers,' are in
quiries which I have not data of sufficient accuraracy now to answer
with satisfaction, but which may be solved with reasonable certainty, by
an appeal to the experience of other States, within the last fifteen years
Independently therefore, of the State's connection with any other work
of that description, and of her ability to -aid tbe construction of this, by
'using her present Railroad, as cash, at a reasonable price, and by in
ducing a subscription of half a million of dollars more, by compromise
expected to bring its value at an auction sale. In exercising that pru
dence and care over it, which as individuals we apply tfr our private af
fairs, it appears to me, that we have only the alternatives presented, of
either borrowing the necessary amount to put it in perfect repair, so as to
make whatever profit can be realized from local business, without fur
ther extension, or of uniting it with a continued line through the State
and Union, having certainly fair prospects of profits on its stjekj and- af
fording inestimable advantages to our people. And in choosing be
tween these, we cannot close our eyes to the fact, that unless we em
bark in the work of extension with boldness and energy, by measures
to be adopted by the present Legislature, other and adverse schemes,
will in all probability be carried into effect, destructive in a great mea
sure, of the interests of our present Railroads, and rendering them a
total loss to the proprietors.
We afe therefore in a situation, where there is fai more danger to
the public interests, from the waste of lethargy and inactivity, than
from improvidence or extravagance. A reasonable economy consists in
preserving and improving what we now have, whilst we are pwyfcig
at the same time, new accommodation for the pressing wants our
constituents. WILL: A. GRAHAM.
Executive Department, Dec 4, 1849.
Memorandum and Project,
OP A RAILROAD FROM GASTON, BY WAY OF RALEIGH
AND SALISBURY,
TO CMIVItL,OTT12.
1 Let a Joint Stock Company, to be styled "the North Carolina
Railroad Company, " be incorporated, on liberal terms, for 91) years, w ill)
a capital of 2,000,000, of which one-half shall be subscribed by tin
istate : with power to increase its capital to 2.o(K),lK)0, if found neces
sary to complete and equip the Railroad through its entire length ihc
State still subscribing and owning one-half of the whole Stock.
2. The Slate of North Carolina shall pay 500,000, of her sub
scription, by transferring to said Company the Raleigh and Gaston Rail
road, with all its equipments, and appendant property.
3. As an inducement to the stockholders and Bondsnfen of the
ate Raleigh and Ga?ton Railroad Company, to subscribe in this Com
pany, and to use their influence and exertions to procure subscriptions.
et it be provided, that when the sum of 35oOO,000 6hall be subscribed
by individuals or corporations, who shall satibfy the Board of Internal
mprovemenl that they are able to pay the same, the suits now pend-i
ng against them, at the instance of the biale on account of her endorse
ments for said Raleigh and Gaston Railroad Company, shall be dismiss
ed, and the defendants discharged from their liability iu that behalf.
4- When the sum of o00,000 shall be thus subscribed, and the
solvency of the subscribers shall be'ascorlained by the Board of Inter-;
nal Improvement, the Company shall be organized, and the Governor
shall be authorized and directed to transfer to them the Raleigh and
Gaston Railroad, by absolute grant, under the Great Seal of thei
State, upon their entering into bond in the penal sum of $ 1,000,000.
payable to the State, and conditioned for their proceeding with all
reasonable despatch, to put this part of the Road in good repair, and to
construct the residue from Raleigh to Charlotte, and giving a mortgage'
cn the property transferred as a eecunty for the performance 01 . the
same.
5. The State is to be called on for no further payment uetil the
said sum of 500,000, subscribed and paid by the other stockholder?,
shall bo in good faith applied according to the preceding stipulation.
6. Alter this sum shall have been expended on the work, when-;
ever the individual stockholders shall be called on for a payment of any'
further part of their subscription, and shall have made the same, to the
amount' of three fourths of the instalment required, then the State shallf
pay pari passu on her's.
7. To raise tho requisite funds to pay the further subscription
of the State, as the same maybe required. Bonds or certificates of
debt may be issued by the Treaeuer under the Great Seal of tne State
and guarantied by a pledge of the public faith for their redemption, pay
able in the currency ot urcat Britain or the United States, with inter
that be bad made the motion without reference to
pafty and he wished the Reporters to state this
fact, that the people might see why the Legislative
business was delayed, and said that he did not think
It necessary to wait for the member from Yancy to
Arrive before proceeding with the election of State
Ifficers. The obiection urged by the gentleman from
Jtowan might apply with some force to the case of
jjhe United States Senator. The election of State
pfficers should not depend upon a contingency ;
peither should party considerations be brought to
jnar in their election. They should be decided
without party feelings ; and especially at this time,
with a view to hasten the Legislation of the State.
Soon the Supreme Court would meet; and there
Would be need of an Attorney General; and if pnr
fy considerations were suffered to defeat the elec
tion of State Officers, why the frame-work of the
JStnte Government would be completely disorgan
ized.
i Mr. Ellis said, that he did not'ppcak for the De
mocratic party, and not for the purpose of staving
f-.fF the election of Attorney General ; but, believing
that every County in the State was interested in
ibis election, he thought that every one should be
heard ; that the voice of no one should be smothered
in this, or any other election. He thought it strange
that the gentleman from Hertford should be horri
fied at the idea of making a party question of this
ehctiou. Both parties have done so heretofore, and
will do so r.gain. For himself, he was willing that
party spirit should be put down. He did not think
any judicial election should be made by party alone.
Let 113 wait fur Yuncy. It is not the fault of the
j e. 1 le of Yaucy that they are unrepresented. He
thouchtit not necessary for the election of Attorney
'Gen oral to come off before the meeting of the Su
preme Court. He spoke without reference to how
parties would vote, and did not wish to give a party
'character to the election ; but his only reason, for
opposing it, at this time, was, that Yancy would not
be LearJ.
i Mr. Rayner proposed a suggestion to Mr. Ellis,
for them both to vote for the most capable man,
whether he be Whig or Democrat
' Mr. Eliia said he did not like to make bargains.
He and the gentleman from Hertford iniht diifer
in their notions of fitness. He no doubt thought
"the present incumbent a competent officer, which
'Mr. Lias would not deny; uuu yet Le imgut mink
.Miothtr capiible of tilling the omce. He could not
therefore make any such agreement as the gentleman
fioni Hertford proposed; but he promised to vote
fcr no man who was uot fit for the olace.
Mr. Paine said acoutingency might arise to prevent
elections, any how by the decisions of the coutes
ted election they might be so Bituated as to be una
ble to elect officers, and would have to ndjourn with'
out making any choice. He apprehended that the ob
jectiou of the gentleman from Rowan proceeded from
the political complexion of the County of Yancy.
He had never before had such an objection offered
o gainst proceeding with any election. The same,
he thought would apply iu the temporary abseuce
of a member, fie should therefore vote in favor of
the motion of the gentlemau from Hertford.
The niotiou prevailed, Aye3 OS ; xoes 57
never be cheated. He skd the gentleman from
I Rowan, since be was so desirous of pesiponieg this
all action on the bill to incorporate the Railroad from
Dauville to Charlotte, ontil tbe arrival 6f the mem
ber from Yancy? If this was a qnesUon iu which
the people of YauCy might have some iuterest?
Mr. Ellis said, he did not think Yaucy had much
interest iu the bill ; but if he was convinced 10 the
contrary, he would ba willing to wait for the mem
ber from Yancy.
The questiou was then taken on the amendment,
and carried, 59 to 57.
Mr. Stanly then moved to lay the question on tbe
table in consequence of the absence of a member,
and said, he hoped that tbe members ou tbe opposite
side would act up to tbe platform erected by tbe
gantleman from Rowan, viz: to vote for his motion,
in deference to the absence of a member.
Mr. Ellis said, he had no idea of building n plat
form, and would be in favor of the gentleman's mo
tion, if the preceding question had not been forced
upon them.
Mr. Stanly said that, if it was necessary for all
the Counties to be represented, in the one case, he
thought that all the members in attendance should
be allowed the privilege of voting in the other.
Mr. Jones, or U range, said that there was no rea
son for the Democrats agreeing to-the motion to lay
on the table, except from courtesy to the YV higs
was mistaken in tire
anything of the kind
the Legislative ba.in ff. SS
5Sd asked th not SKSS
nst 10 ui
eDtl
erourid of m,rtB Uk trm
Mr. Rnvnpr -i),l 1-.
. . . " -T J, u not
the courtesy of DeinocratslW l
Mr. Dobbin said he had
resent the gentleman; but Irk
courtesy was asko,! ot'.L e. 0ne
m seriousness, and he woul.l i 88,4 W
to say, if the proposition0 iJ
ion j- u was merelv hv :iuuk.
inage. The Democrat, had H- litt!e
in seriousness. nn,l i, ' t. Is&d H
1. " ;v":r " wt
uu amendment. No,v
: that it 1 ri a aht u . A'0ini I
aemrtor was not serin.,.i fc. IUti.
idq ...1 1 ?t "ur.
us; hac
it. Nn
inuisnnc,,:..
I " or 4i
other side of th r?,.. ."!. .Tut tnJl
TJ-..' , ... J uranp r.
jiuufse regarueu it as serirmc. l .
1 1 "J . 11 art
v,nn '
thatUime, about the
member from Randoli t,
U.. L - . 1 . i.r. . r
uy toe am 01 w tnj; votes
Thei'Whig. presented ird
when 1
andcucd it gravely :X 'l
tbat.it will probably fail th "u e" ttn
vujuvo an ui uuue a piece of K,., e j
Mr. Stanly saia, tnat tne gentleman irom uranse I leaves thp rii.mn . j UUJUaaj ui
was very much mistaken if he supposed that he j wasjonly intended for hwiior88' ffrN
was asking any courtesy at the hands of the Dem- j that; the Democrats were in i f
ocrats. He asked no such thiug. They had ta- this! matter as t' e Wi; , LE0,
nen tne grounu mat uie eiecuon suouiu ne posipou- ( yon,; as liempt r.u?. oucht
prl nr.til h( nrrtv.-il of t.hft mpmhoi frnm Yanfv. It. tl. i l,.,n,. - c .t . ' ' ti
" - j , me nwtutcui 1 UC meuihpp f . r.
. I I U III I ,
1 ..... ' "m
w"l on,,.
'he
rp. C-vmji
was their proposition to postpone : and, if such a ' the imnression i:r,nn M iv
- . .i.ii .in, J s ,,.1 t"
course was necessarv. wnv not nostnone the ouestion 1 hii tV,t i,.,.i 1 , :' Ui,uu,
.1. .. .1 r r 1 i 1. . . . . ! . . u
uiiui iui. uuwiuiiu i.viu tviuiuviii una ihiiv 1 j 1 ct iureoinir reinni'iv W'i intf-rii
would be returned from the County of Yancy ; and
if a Whig should be elected, the surprise of the Dem
ocrats would be no greater than that experienced by
them at the result ot the election of the 7th of No
vember. Fie called upon them, iu voting upon the ; absence of ihe member from y!.? Sa
question, 10 susxain uieir uoetrine; that laiu uowa
in the opening of the debate.
Mr. Ellis thought that the case of the gentleman
U , . f 1
me cuui d; lue uemoerats
ceautori wishes to postpc
mi
frc
.eauion wisiies to post pone the n
lorrow, on account of the absen
rooi Randolph. Ye pivposeTo1
: nuu:unui uie v;uiu ot U.cenib'
absence of the membfr from V
, tlemau had shown a wiiiiasm t" '
to extend ping the public biuiue ; an-1 tLL l.
Randolph, ; ator and the Attorney GeumlwT
e, that he;; some other time, without pivin,
should not ; ble state of thinss dej.icu-J bAh,
is was the-j Hertford: and adher,..! . u-.. . . ?vk
r.c, iinr n t it , ,,,r, r -
feCtiV WllllDL' to liri.stncno c,it
from Randolph did not come under the rule lair ! uiau from Randolph. IIe saw
down in the beeinine. He was wiilinz to extend I iiin the riublii l,i,;,,c . JLi ?5 tscs
, . , . -. . , ., " ... o 1
an aue courtesy to the gentleman from K
but he was unwilliug to say, by his vote
should come in here, and s;iy that we s
watt for the member from Yancv. This was thei Hertford-
" - ) -" wtu iu nn AV;
ground of his objection to the motion of the gentle- ! fuvor of the postponement of tLee! 1
linn fpnm Too ,-, fSf PTi. it- o d Tcillinnp tri a vt pnfT tt,ti i 0...l 101L
same privilege to the geutleman from Randolph, as ! about elections cotitinr.e it ai'f
to the member from Yancy. . j on with the business of 'the Sdi
Mr. Dobbin said be was willing for the respec-, election of Clerks, a spirit of p ."'
tive positions of the parties, upon this question, tojj be so in the election of other I'J
be known. He did not know whether the motion!! h acritntinn ,..! ...,,.....:' "V "s
aa asutu mrougu eouriesy, poiincui iiiuiiuiis, ui- : gie no elevate part v. W
t t i . . r 11 : . - .
legislative usage ne, ior one, was wining 10 agree ; enct,
He felt it.
c c:ia I ?pt h i
ana the sremlei.tfl
to postpone for the absence of the gentleman from land, no matter how cenrj u
Randolph, if they were willing to wait for the mem- feel It, as was shown in the VlectiutT
ber from Yancy. But it now appeared, that the . casting his vote so as to defV-.r t'l.
amenument onerea cy nis siue pi me riouse was j rlonse. The other side of the Ho-
est RPmi.annilMll V. at not murp tlian ( nor o.-ut nnr minnm. rprlpmaJil(
t, ;.. o.t.t.. ti..r.i.. : . 1 , r. r,,,inl, nr . .. J " ' ?
wtui us luriuer oiuc&uuiuera, vviinout. resonin iu iuiut, uu muv.ii u ) m thirty years
8
... r ! i r.- ;, ; ; I
vduiiai requireu, 10 say nomine; oi iu cxienbiuu nticaucu u ion
self an improvement demanded by the public interest, and every en
ligbtened view of duty to our constituents.
By the arrangement recommended, the State and Individuals are
to be equal Stockholders to the amount of one million of dollars, or at
most, twelve hundred and fifty thousand each, iu a line of Railroad from
Gaston to Charlotte. The State is to transfer to the new Company, the
Raleigh and Gaston Railroad, at the sum of 500,000, in part payment
of her subscription, as soon as solvent persons shall subscribe $500,000
more, in Stock of this Company. She is to pay no money on her sub
scription, until this latter sum of $500,000 has been in good faith applied
in repairs of the old Road, and the construction of the new ; that is, in
all probability, until the new Road shall have been completed for forty
or more miles. After that, she is to pay in equal instalments with the
other subscribers, but always withholding her payment until theirs has
been made. Transportation is to be carried on, upon the old Road and
upon such parts of the new, as may be from time to time finished, and
dividends of profits on this business, may be declared, in which the.'
State will receive her part, as the work may progress. The balance
cf the State's subscription, say $5C0 to 700,000 is to be paid by monies
raised on loan, by issuing State bonds, redeemable in thirty years,
bearing interest at not more than six per cent, per annum. These
bonds would probably be issued, in parcels of perhaps $50,000 at one
time, as instalments might be called for, on the subscription, so that
the whole amount would not be outstanding in less than (four or five
year?. In every" instance the loan would be contracted by sealed pro
posals, and any premiums obtained, would be reserved as & fund for
the payment of interest, in addition to the profits which may be realized
from the business of the Road. So far as these might fall short of the
payment of the interest, as it accrued, it would fall on the Treasury
the Stock in the Road being pledged to pay the principal.
The certificates of loan aire to be payable at the option of the len
der, in the currency of Great Britain, or the United Slates, in order to
have a free competition, in the proposals offered, and to secure the low-
est rate of interest. The sum annually required for the payment of
interest, after the whole amount ot loan shall haye been obtained, will
probably be from thirty to forty thousand collars. The old Road being
put in perfect repair, and the new one constructed for forty miles, bet
fore any part of this debt is contracted, and the Stale being entitled to
one-half of the profits which may be made from its operations, she may
reasonably expect to derive from this source, and from the premiums
on the loan, a large portion of the funds required from time to time, to
meet this interest. If the measures recommended in my former Mes
sage for the reduction of the public liabilities shall be adopted, they will
by the time th.s loan hall be fully laken up, afibrd a residue by the
diminuuourof the debt which lnay be Hcd iQ inle ; .
u4 V . n any balance, to be paid from the Treasurv
, It is unqnestionah w ik. t .. Ji.icae.ury.
-- uc icasi
No more Bonds shall be issued at any one time, than are ne
cessary to pay the instalment then demanded ; aud in every such case,
the Treasurer shall advertise the amount required, call for sealed pro
posals of terms, and contract the loan, on those moat favorable to ihe
State, that may be offered. And whatever premium may be obtained
in any fucIi negotiation, bhall be paid into the Public Treasury, and
invested as a savings fund, to meet the iuterest ou the debt, as it it may
accrue.
9. The State's Slock in this Company, to be pledged for lire re
demption of the principal of the debt thus contracted, and any dividends
of profits which may be declared thereon, to be applied to the payment
of the interest. And the Company shall have power, from time to lime,
to divide profits, if realized, on such parts of the Road as Jnay be fin
ished.
10. But to secure the punctual payment of ihe interest, before
and until such dividends may be realized, and to aid ihe Savings Fund,
above mentioned, the Public Treasurer shall pay any deficiency of in
terest, out of any monies in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated. '
11. The. foregoing provisions to be embodied in two Acts of the
General Assembly ; the one, " An Act to incorporate the North Caro
lina Railroad Company," and the other, "An Act, to ac?just the claims
of the State against ihe Stockholders and obligors of the Raleigh &
Gaston Railroad Company, to change the Slate's investment iu said
Railroad, and to aid the construction of the North Carolina Railroad."
Statistical Memorandum,
TO ACCOMPANY THE PROJECT OF THE
NORTH CAROLINA Mil HOAD.
o
o
B
a
O
a
o
CO
a 1
Oi
a
3
Counties.
Wake,
Chatham,
Randolph,
Davidson,
Rowan,
Cabarrus,
Population .1840.
21,118
16.242
12,875
14,600
12,100
0,250
Mecklenburg aud Union, 18,273
104,473
that it-propoMH to borrow n,.mi.v r. .f v- P JeC''
justify thai step, in ,he evpa ,tf . ""Jridnce State, to
J .. . p ,ne eyea of our constituents, f it Rtnn.i n j
. ""vuunctieu
Orange,
Guilford,
Stokes,
Surry,
Davie,
Iredell,
Lincoln, Gaston &. Cat.
Montgomery & Stanly,
Moore,
with other work in wllich IL, " "stood unco
" consider that, he ir'l"" d' But w
ultimate red,, 17 r T WBU" "auroaa pledged for the
'hen
.v-wvuipuon oi the amount borrowed nA ,;n w
eauai to ,t ..j .v . . . Borrowed, nd will be more than
a
a
on
o
o
a
2
f Rutherford, CleaTd,
Dnrsf,MCUOW. i-Uald.
Wilkes,
Rockingham,
Caswell,
Person,
Anson,
Cumberland,
J ohnston,
Nash,
FranMin,
Granville,
24,350
19,175
16,265
15,079
7,574
15,685
25,100 .
10,780
7,988
246,427
J- 9,202
15,799
12.577
13,442
14,693
9,790
15,077
15,284
10,599
9,047
10.S80
18,817
411.732
Value of Real Estate, 1847.
2.052JS5
1.245.S14
1.062,538
1,156.308
1.012,469
833,836
1.116,016 ) un'n
634,937 f
9,114,101
2,234,376
1.G12.2G2
1,275,940
1,005,37
644.309
933,172
2,088,961
720.C84
54l660
520,171,202
1,364.00 ...
1,665,795" '
555,666
1,023,794
1,282,405
C3$49
1,146,899
1,561,525
919,534
629,012
847,564
1,529,114
S33 69 1 13
On the same day, Mr. Satterthwaite's resolution
to tend a message to the.Senr.te proposing to go into
an election of United States Stuator ou Monday
next at 12 o'clock, being under consideration.
Mr. Ellis moved to amend by striking out Mon
day next, aud inserting the '20th of December.
Mr. Satterthwuite said that he thought the object
of the amendment was to defeat the resolution en
tirely, and he could see no good reason for such a
desire on the part of members of the House; for
it keemed to him improbable that they would do uny
thing until these elections were over. Aa long as
the ininda of members are agitated about thes&anat
ters, the business of the State will sufl'er in conse
quence thereof. lie had no disjwsiiion to deprive
any part of the people of North Caroliu.a of their
vcice. The Legislature was as full as usual all the
members being present, with the exception of one.
He was in favor, therefore, of proceeding with the
election.
Mr. Dobbin said, he, for one, was far from feeling
a disposition to defeat the election ; but one Coun
ty in tbe State was not represented, and as the Sen
ator represented the State at large, it was a very
important matter, in his opinion, that the voice of
every County 6hould be heard in his election. He
thought there was no analogy between the case of
the absence of a member from the House, and that
of nn unrepresented County : and believed this
would be apparent to every member who would
(Link of it for a moment. He thought l hat there
wag no need of legislation ceasing; for there were
more important matters to come before the House
than the election of officers ; and he was opposed to
the idea that they could not get along with business
until these officers were elected. Our legislative
bark is about to be launched, and let it not be blown
among the breakers by the gales of party strife and
contention; but rather let it be borne smoothly
r.loug laden with the precious freightage of a wise
comprehensive, and prudent system of policy. He
pledged himseif that a suspension of the election
should not deter him, from the transaction of busi
ness ; und begged members to suspend their party
feelings and proceed to legislation.
: Mr. Paine inquired, if any other County, save
Yancy, had received such consideration, and if any
oi her County should be placed in a similar situation,
would the gentleman from Cumberland oppose going
into the election ?
Mr. Dobbin replied affirmatively.
Mr. Courts said, it was thought strange that the
Democratic party of the House acted thus ; and that
fcr their course, they had no precedent. But they
were not without precedent. He cited a case in
1 836, in relation to the County of Pasquotank, when
a member from that County resigned his seat, and
aisked, why not now show the same respect to Yan
cy, that was shown to Pasquotank then. The cour
tesy extended to Whigs then, ought, bethought,
to- be extended to Democrats now. He could see no
reason why the election for Senator, should not be
postponed until theQOth of December, when the va
cancy occurred not until the 3d of March.
Mr. Stanly asked Mr. Courts whether he, as a
member of the Legislature, did not vote to go into
the election ugainst the wishes of the Whigs?
Mr Courts said the Democrats yielded to the ar
guments ottered by the Whigs for postponement;
but he did not recollect how he voted.
Mr. Stanly asked, if it was not by the Senate
that tue postponement was made?
Mr. Courts replied he did not recollect but a
short time thereafter, he was reminded that the pro
position was voted down in the House, but sustain-
ea oy tne oenate.
Mr. Rayner said, that, if the Whigs did wrsng in
'36, in regard to this matter, they ought not to do so
now; anu u tne JJeniocrats did right then, they
ought to practise the same course of conduct now
He said that the Whigs of the House, by reference
to the Journalshe found did vote against the nroD-
osition to go into an election ; but, alter sleeping on
it for a night, they let it pass on the next day. And,
as he had failed to trade with his friend of Rowan!
he would try his friend from Rockingham-. anJ aKkJ
him, if the resolutio.i failed to pass to-day, w ill he
like tha Wpigs, in -36. lei it pass ttumorrsw ? "
Mr Courts declined to "trade, and Raid that, by
past. experience, be was warned agaiunltradincr with
WhlirS I fftr thv a !urara j . m-w
- T """-'J TO Llin Mil VM MI 34 (TO -f a
appealed to Mr. Rayner to be consistent. He ouzht
9
1 . b. ? t lit r '
i ma it wouia oe uniuir to rroc.eJ rw
uqbs, oecause one comity is m Wfrsj
ugy are nig counties represent r,
lnvBucn a way as fairly, to espraS
of the people of those Whig Couwij,
here by Democrats? Is not their cs
Is not advantage taken of this misrfpa:
We who are auxiuus to bring on ihestta
so, ibceausc we wi;h to reuio?e thecfc
way ot Legislation. e wish toreros
struction to proceeding to tbe public W
heavy responsibility would fall upon tL
those who acquiesced in this delav of a
business. Let t he responsibility fallonilJ
it properly belougs. He, for one.mjtJ
The Ayes and Noes were then caM J
tion to lay on the table, -which resaWl
-Niiys 57 ; so the resolution Was laiJmiJ
APPLICATION tilllu
present Session of the Gesei
ot IMortli Carolina, twaa
Lijltle River Manufacturing Compaij.
Dec. 7, 1848.
j Three Lays from Jot fat
finWO CASES more, rf those ta
H skin HATS, Dtcember8tTle,tlii(r
hv R.mm,
Jvaleigh, Dec. 7, 1S4C.
;0" Star and Standard.
to set the example.
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iur. uaynersaid. mat that was what he wished
to be that was what he wa.iiA.l far aa Ka Kf..-
aid, the Whigs defeated it on the first day, but let it
pas on uie second. He said his friend feom Rocking
ham objected to trading with him, from the fear that
he would net the advantage of him hut h ,.,u
tell his Democratic friends to appoint him (Mr. Courts)
their agent, aud ihry would never be worsted, and
HL-pW tn ht ndnnfpil hv V h ior kii nnnrt. nnrt tlift mips- !
-j - - - j .. "-o "II -j .
tion is pressed upon them to postpone, when this
fact is ciicovered. It was uncertain, it was true,
what would be the political opinions of the member
from Yancy but, notwithstanding this, he was wil
ling to postpone the question for the gentleman from
Randolph, provided the Whigs would agree to post
pone the election of Senator until the arrival of the
member from Yancy.
Mr. Rayner said, that he discovered that he could
not make a trade with his friends over the way with
out their prescribing the conditions. A great deal
of unnecessary excitement, he thought, had grown
out of this question. His friend from Eeaufort had
introduced it by way of retort, to ascertain whether
they, would stand upon the ground they had taken his, share of the responsibility created trl
at first. In his opinion, the absence of member,? had he'intended to pursue.
nothing to do with tne question ; anu, as tar as ne
could prevent it, the question should not be dodged,
lie did not think that either theabsenceof tbe mem
ber from Randolph, or the member from Yancy
had anything to do with the action of the flouse;
and the Whig?, by no means bad anything to
do with the absence of the member from Yancy.
The people htud elected, at the proper time, a mem
ber to represent them here, and he had absented
himself,)! his own i.ccord. But there is a difference
in the cases of the two gentlemen one being absent
of his own accord, aud the other by the act of God.
Much had been said about courtesy. He did not
ask it as courtiFy he demanded it cs right, that
these elections should be gotten over with, in order
that the House might proceed with the business of
the State. He asked if it was intended to keep the
House here until the 20th of Deccmler, doing noth
ing ? Notv, you can t get the Committees to work :
and it will be almost impossible to carve out work
for the action of the House, as long as these things
are in agitation. The minds of members will be un
settled, and other important matters, that ought to
come before the rloui-e, will be necessarily postponed
The gentleman from Cumberland might be free from
the influence of political feelings, and might pre
serve hi3 calmness and equanimity in the midst of
the most exciting contest: but he (Mr. R) could
not free his bosom from the influence of such feel
ings: and was therefore anxious to have done with
the elections as soon as possible. .If it were necessa
ary for the House to wait, for the member from Yan
cy to vote for Senator of the Uuited States, it was
equally necessary to have him here, to vote on other
important questions. The eyes of the country are
fixed on this Legislature, with a hope that some
thing will be done to elevate the character of North
Carolina, and promote her prosperity ; and what a
spectacle do wc present ? Caucusses were held ev
ery night, and the minds of members were kept con
tinually agitated.' Are you williiig, said Mr. R., to
continue in this course; to keep the House here
doing nothing, until the 20th of December, spending
the money oi the people 1 And he would appeal to
the gentlemen upon the other side to think upon
thbs particular matter, since it was one upon which
they were always harping before the people. Wait
until the 20th of December the minds of the mem
bers having been kept in a continual state of excite
ment, and then the business "that ought to have been
done in the meautime, will be ru ied through with
and only U.ilf attended to. it is true, that the passage
of the question may not affect the character of the
United States Senate ; but it will materially affect
the character of posterity. He called upon the
House to get through with the elections, and insisted
that the gentlemen on the other side of the House
ought not to oppose them any longer. If they con
tinued in their course, they should be held respon
sible for it before the people of the State. Too much
evidence had been given of making every office a
party question. Next the Solicitors would be sac
rificed for opinion's sake Treasurer to be sacrific
ed ; Comptroller also ; and meu, would be put in
their places, not because they were competent, but
for party considerations alone. He would depre
cate the existence of such a state of things, and ap
peal to members again not to postpone the public
businessj declaring, if they did, the responsibility
should rest upon their own shoulders. Mr. R. said
he may have felt too Warmly, and may have spoken
too warmly, but that he was really in as good a hu
mor as he ever was in his life.
Mr. Dobbin said, that he had listened with inter
est to the gentleman from Hertford ; but was sur
prised to hear him talk of plotting and counterplotting-
of dodging the (Question of being held res
ponsible of wasting the people's money; and his
appeal to tbe patriotism of his side of the House
He would appeal to the patriotism of the gentleman
himself, and ask him has it come to this, that legis
lation must be suspended because an Attorney Gen
eral and a Senator are to be elected ? Must all oth
er business- be suspended because some wish to post- we therefore cone
pone these elections? Wbat sort of patriotism is
his, who can Bay, that he is incapacitated for the
public business, because certain offices are not filled 1
Aud let the people know, since the gentleman has
lectured us about responsibility, that he can do no
thing until these elections are over with? Is that
the sort of patriotism that -he 'wishes to arouse in my
bosom? If so I tell him he cannot do it. When
the gentleman spoke of plotting and counterplotting,
I was astonished. He knew that the Democrats!
and Whigs too, ardent though thev were in th
support of their. respective sides, could rise above
gttute of c North Caroliiar
g2Coi:NTr. In Equity.
! llintou Vinson and iViit,
; .
j John B. Alltn, and olhen
BY an interlocutory order, made it
cause, ai the last Term of the Court
said Countv. ail creditors of the M
Alton nr rpniii red to exhibit and leriiri
airainst his Estate, before the Master of
at his Office in Sini(.h6eld, on or beta
dav of January next, and also to app
Te'rm of this Court to be boldtnatfol
iri Smithfield. on the 4th Monday ii
i!f.n nnr? there to assert their cluta "
of the sales of the Lands, descended
the said William U. Allen, mIJ v
.i II
vwui t. , , ,
: Smhhfbl.l. Nov. 23. (Tt.hhf
estate o Soi'tii i'nro
SCurj:rrT. Cou.t of Pleas la-l
November Term, 1S43.
William ror.-j'C,
Durant L. BuHoct
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ceased. , . ,l
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... i I . .. i,a liaifcu I
publication oe maoe m ; -, ,
weeks successively, f.-r saiu m y
. i..,r lust ire? ohaiJ
thereof, lobe held for ;d Us
House in Oxford, on tne 'N " ,
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thf land levied uton co-
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at office, theirs vi ,n i-.-.
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Nov. 29, 13H
the
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pfactory of IL y, n
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tbe influences bronzbt to bear in these elections, and is erv complete,
woum not oe deterrea from the discharge of their io S450 auo
every
sat'
duty to the public. So much for responsibility so J them to give entire s - s
auch for dodging th.e question, The gehtleaoan i v'
isfacl'00