T.EMARBDF
MB.-..TTKST02P, OF BERTIE CO:,
J 03 tO S 5. 6 JSC OS A, CuSTEVtHX.
Mb. SrEAtta: 3-nne of the ablest ma ttTMtWid.
tbs State have recently taken the ground, thatl
the Leg ulMwi may, by a mero rnqon
the atmbtn-pMtat, pan a bill, by am
dr which an unlimited jconvention may
sailed bj bare majority vote 'of the peopje of
North Carolina. If tfcia position be tenable
k is time that the people of the State we w in
k.rned oi it. I hasara the oooiectura ;bat not
nan in a thousand, in this State, e ver beard 1
trf it before. And, air, that it it wrong, 1 tnmx
tat, oven with my weak ability, I can show
bevoad all doubt.
Before the convention of 1835. our State
constitution' was ailent throuehootr-m the
node of its own amendment.. It contained no
direction sxprees-oi. implied, on theaobjecL
As the instrument , had been framed by the
people tbpmgh thei agents, of coarse the earn
people 'b b'4o right, by majority of
votes, to altmeid -and ebange ilt at wilL
TbeOenfreljAl wry; properly dis-
, alter tof foraanf jfp;IawT andTtbere wai
' Meiivtlta6lawOTdiaths Constitution rsqai
in anv other f Ota than a majority of the peo
pie. There? wee, therefore, no other possible
.nodi fit Amending the Constitution of the Ste,
thaabr the mtiSrity erinoiple, adopted at tbat
tisae. The sonvsntioa of 1835 introduced ink
b Constitution two taodes So which it might
. he amended; i The manner of call-
i' faj that; contention can consequently, furnish
"otrecdent tocutdeuenbw.' -TV
V tb act of tha Assembly calling the oonven
"ttotoof 1835 gar to tbat convention dttttra
onnry'lWwft ont oomo sixteen subjects, In
&ManL however, to four other anbieota, the
envcatioo were not. left to exercise ther dia
wdlon. Ther were directed and commanded to
act. . First, it wii nacteo mat saw convention
- should" adjust the Senate, pasla.,;, Seoonaiy
-tb like aa to the Cminons' basiai Thirdly
tha like aa to the Qualifications of Senate voters
and fourthly, aa follows : That ths convene
. titm. akoll urovid M what StaRMf
"eAofl itfmturt be made to the Constitution, PJ the
xtntm .iom th . exact JiuifnaitsUicisr-
lag it myself." TJpotf ihU clause of tht aet ofl
- Jo3 nothing nas Been wo vj ioe sawron
- of the majority doctrine. Jt la stange that it
shook, have been entirely overlooked, especial
'to fa -ren flenseM who have aeniyimed to aire in
, their apecbea jjhn substance of tW jsct of 14 1
Sir, I undertake to aay, Obat arneo tins part
14 xfawaotis aeea emd 'properly, understood, tbe
' principle J bat tbarr u etill anothsr-mode of
amtndjng.tht jConstitntion besidet-tthe' tvra'
a.providd oy the convention, visnMhee into thin
' air.' The case in. a feWworde .iahis? The
1 JeopVdelegad 4o ( tbeooTention of 1835 the
t vboU po wer $o do what they pleaeed in rngard
ifv thfi modes , of amending the .Cooetitutien in
" fotorei. They" not only? delegatedr th- io wer
bur ? theyoommanded tta full exereiae. The
OvnreauOD, tu wiwueuci w tuu yvuiuiwu,
adopted the two modes contained in the Consti
A tution. Now, air, if I know anything of lan
gnage or law, those two affirmative modes ex
' elude -any and every other. Uchitio unius
'' est ezclutio aUerius" The Supreme Court of
North Carolina, tho final interpreter," would
bo bound to adopt my-reaeoniug without any
hesitation. Andair, if there ts aoy gentleman
in the tic use who holds 'the contrary doctrine,!
I would is glad to know tt. .Uere. Mr. fbU-
Ups, of Orabge," informed Mr.- Winston, that
he should rejlytO; himi : and should contend,
firti. that the bo prelue Court cbbld not look at
the act calling the sonventionin.obnstrtiine the
amendments of 1835 ; -and - eeooodiv, that if
tbev coald, the' clause of the act relied-on did
not exclude the call of a convention by other
modee than those provided, for in toe Consti'u
tationri lam clad, sir, that U is tb gentle
man from Orange who takes issue with me on
this occasion. His knowledge of the law and
Constitution is such, that if he falls to maintain
bis position, it will be liecau'se the position cah-
' -not be maintained; " if Troy oould not be
defended by Hector, it could, not be defepded at
Before' I discuae the .points made- by my
friend, let ue ask hint to turn bis mind to one
or two points. -First : as he holds that the
faoe of the Constitution is the only guide in
construing it, let fcfm inform me, where he de-
rivet the power for the .Legislature, by a major'
, itv vote, to originate a bill whereby a majority
of the people call a convention, xne uonstitu
v lion of the State apeak- of legislative action.
in regard to this matter, only in two places.
My friend is obliged te admit that be can find
nothing in the Constitution itaclf te warrant
his oottiou. And. sir. aa he denies himself
Ibo right to look ontside of the instrument, He I
cannot move an jnoh. liven the precedent of
1835. (of no value when found) cannot be re
sorted to by him. ,. What, additional vigor or
, validity, I ask," can be given U the; proposed
convention by an net of Assembly preceding it.
The powers of the Legislature are well defined
in the Consfiiation, and there' is not a word
said therein of "their, oallins. a contention, ex
ceps oy. a iwo tnirus vote. , sui it is saia tbat
it is more proper' for the Legislature to, call it.
This U a y teldiDg of the whole argument. The
question is one- of constitutional power, and
not of propriety. I under uke to say that if a
convention of the people could assemble with'
cut aa act of the Legislature, their action would'
be valid as if aa act had preceded and au
taorixed their assembling. Judge Gaston's
expressedopnUon. wan, that the act of 1834
vaa do-more thao a proposition or a reeom
(bendatifs." Suppose that -delegatea of the
people wer to assemble in naieign, could.tney
pet make proposition or recommendation for
a convention t - And, sir, it is taking the whole
qoaetion for granted, to say that it is necessary
tw have an act of the . Legislature in order, lo
direct WnVn, h re, and bow the elections are
i be held. If the Legislature, by the Vote of
a arejority, has no pov rr in the premises, then
W:t-t addit 01 force is given to sueh a cou
t ivibn by the act ? ' ..
Again. Let me dire t the attention gf my
frl d to the wo ding of th Constiiutido. 'Oue
laue is as fo".low-: ,
Jro peri of th Constitution of rCiaState ehali
be a' tared, nniexs a bill to alter the same shall'
Lie been read three limes in each Iloui-e of the
Oeceral Assembly, and agreed to by 'three-fifths
of the whole number of members of each House
respectively : Nor "shall any. alteration take,
place until the said bill, so agrred to, shall have
been published six months previous to a new
election of membtrs to the General Assembly.
If, after such puUicatian. the alteration propo
sed by the preceding General Assembly shall
be agreed to, ins the first session thereafter, by
two thirds of the whole represcnution 4n oacti,
' Hoese of the General Assembly r after -the same
ahall have been read three-time on. three- sevpV
ral days in each House,' tfaeirtber said 'General
Assemllj shall prescribe ' mode b which the
- ameudment or amendments shall be Submitted
to the qualified voters of the House of Commons
tbroogbout the Sute ; and if, apbn comparing
the votes given in the whole State, it shall ap
pear thai a majority of the voters have-approved
thereof, then, and not otherwise, the Same shall
beeoioo a part of the Constitution."
, Notice the terms employed in this clause. It
ii. ae clearly as .words can make it, an assertion
of one mode of amending the Constitution and
a denial of . all otfier moo. It was adopted in
the Convention on the Cth day. of July.- Now,
- air, suppose that the -clause just quoted were
the only provision contained in the Constitu
tion providing for its own amendment Every
man will admit that the Constitution could not
be amended in any other way, and that the ma
jurity principle contended for weald be clearly
wrong.. -
The only other reference to amendments oon
taiaed in the Constitution is in the following
words:
" No Convention of tha peopleehall be eallad
by the General Aawatbly, nnloos by rthf eon-
enrrenee or two-ttnrds of all -tbev members of
each Hones of tne Uenerai Assembly." r
TbUaelanso was adopted in ths Convention of
lc$i, twodays after Jtfto lormsr, powdoea
it break in upon the general rule expressed in
thejormer 7 Only so far as to form an excep
tion. "The whole iratrament is to be construed
together, and, tberatorje,vboth clauses nave to
Oted.Nowsir; 1, 4elrsome gentleman to
take Ibis UonSUtutioh ana anew me on m taos
y .'Cn.additional mods of mending the Constitu
t ondtiocuT lo folUand say, tbat the whole
yXteXground is here oofered. TeoaHeDge any man-
to look either In the Constitution orony where
die, and find any valid argument, or evn sng
r tt 1
gestion against my. posiuon aere w a pw
rule expressed in the clearest possible language.
To this general rule, jhere is ope expressed ex
oenUon. iWiiranv man sav that the whole sub
ject is not covered by the rule and ths exception
9 ask are. . t " . .'' t
expressear story ana nmiw, in meir-woraa
on the eon tructkn of Constitutions, both say
tbat tbe . whole groond Is covered, and tbat no
other exceDtion can be implied. We need not,
bowever, jreeort to them, if language means any
thing. Tbe point, to my mind, is too transpa
rent to admit of any reasonable doubt.
licre, sir, 1 might stop.- But my mend from
Orange will reply to me presently, and I will
froceed to meet the points presented by him.
irst, can the Supreme Court take into consid
eration ths act of 1834 in consuming the amend
menta of 1R35. I aa'w that thev not onlv can
but they are bound to do so. Nothing is plain
er.
. What relation did tbeconvention of 1835 sua
tain towards the act which called them togeth
er ? Most assuredly the same in every substan
tial particular tbat tbe Legislature sustains to
wards ths Sute constitution. - We are sworn
not to violate the State constitution. The mem
bertof that convention were sworn that they
would not "either directly or indirectly evade
or disregard ths duties enjoined or the limits
axed to toe convention oy toe peopie oi .norm
Carolina as set forth in the set of 1834 which
.act was ratified by the people." Tbe State con
stitution provides for tne origin ana existence
or the Legislature, giving certain powers and
withholding others. The act of 1834 did the
same things with increased solicitude and
strictness towards tbe convention of 1 835. The
State constitution was the work of the people
before' there was any Legislature. Ths act of
1834 was the work of the people : it called tbe
convention into beine and save it certain well
defined powers, excluding all others. In short,
if svertbere was a deliberative body on earth,
with a written instrument .controlling, direct
ing and mastering their action, it was the con
vention of Itwo.
. Now, sit. nothing, is better established than
that the Supreme Court of this State not only
can look to tbe constitution tor every purpose
m construing tbe act of the Legislature but
tbey ars'tMuiuvely sworn and bound to do 'so.
The act of 1834 was to tbe convention of 1835
constitution in every sense of the word. Tbey
- r - . ' i -V i j ' - .
were put memoersoi a legislature suoorainaio
to that constitution. WilFthe gentleman from
Orange admit that the convention was Urn ited by
4h not, as I have stated t I suppose that he win.
LCan.be then deny so plain a conclusion .as 1
have drawn f Let him detect any flaw in the
argument if he can. I might amplify it by ex
amples and illustrations ; but 1 presume that I
am understood, wniea is all tbat l desire.
But -Sir; the action of the Convention of 135,
as expressed in the amendments to the Consti
tution, Kseif, absolutely compels tbe gentleman
to look to the act of 1834, ia order to onderstaud
this matter. The preamble to the amendments.
which the pentleman admit is to be resorted
to, with the amendments, states tbe fact that
v,the act of 1834 was ratified ' by a majority of
the people, and that, -by said vote, the people
declared-their will that a Convention should
be held, to consider of. the amendments propos
ed.' What amendments ? The ones proposed.
Where, proposed ? In the aot of 1834. Does
not every man here see tbat tbe Convention
here expressly declares, tbat tbey were out sub
ordinate to tbe aot, and that the chart oi their
power was contained in tbe act. They also de
clared that they had made their amendments
in accordance witb said acts. L-et any man
take up the ' preamble, to which I refer, and
read it carefully, and he will find that it de
clares, in every part of it, the point tbat I oon
tend for. The Supreme Court of the State has
decided that, by a proper reference of one deed
to another, the descriptions of the latter, are in.
corporated into the former. Now, Sir, the Con
vention of 1835 could not have made tbe case
stronger, if tbey bad repeated seriatim in the
preamble,-each and all of the provisions of tbe
aot -of 1834. Yet, the gentleman admits, that
the preamble is to be considered, but denies
mat tne act, wnicn in-suoeiance it repeats, is to
be looked at. i will not say more on tbis point.
I have only to say tbat either the gentleman or
myself is in a decided mistake about it.
I take it, tbat the act of 1834 is to be looked
atin construing ths amended constitution.
What then is the construction of that clause of
the aot, which says, "that the convention shall
nrovide-in what manner amendments shall in
future be mads to the constitution." They thall
provide in tvAof manner. Ibis language is too
plain- to admit of any simplification. The
words smployed convey the meaning so clearly,
that every effort to explain them will obscure
them. . The words "in what manner" are as
strong at least as ths words "tht manner" would
have been. My friend is too good a philologist
to deny this.1 It tne words "tbe manner" bad
been osedy then it would have struck every one
to enquire, why were not the words "a man
ner" or "some mannsr" used. Why were the
words future" used? At first view, they
seem unnecessary. The answsr is plain. Be
fore that, there was no constitutional provision
for amending tne constitution, it was doubt
ful bow to proceed en tbe subject ? Do not tbe
words, ';in future," impliedly, if not expressly
negative a repetition or tne mode tben pursued
They knew! that tbey were then pursuing t
constitutional mode of amendment or they, did
not. If . they , did, then their language would
have been, if they wished to retain that mode,
that the convention should provide additional
modes. If they did not, then, tt is clear, tbat
they -wished in futare not to be perplexed -with
doubts and that tbe convention of 1835 should
substitute a plain course. Can any man r-ad tbe
whole of this clause and say tbat tbe convention
did not Have p'ower to negative the mode kben
pursued? . Suppose that the convention of 1835
bad. ifltexpress terms, said that no other amend
ment. should thereafter .be adopted than th two
now contained in the instrument. Of course
they had under tbis clause the power to do so:
and such action, afterwards ratified by the peo-
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P, .IKIHUU lUI UBOU IMIU. X Utl U (Oftl 1
oontena ior m wis connexion.
Take the clause ..altogether, and it is a direc
tion to the CooveDtioa in.the broadest terms, to
provide for trie wnou tuOject j Jutwe amend
tnenlt; ; It was clearly. the meaning of thtt
clause, that when the Convention had acted on
it, no other mode than those provided by them
could.be pursued.
. The only' remaining. question is this? Did
tbe Convention of 1835 exhaust their power ?
Did tbey fully execute it T On examination, it
will be found that tbey did, as to all tbe other
numerous requirements of the act of 1834. My
friend-from Orange knows too well that the Su
preme Cettrt would here apply the maxim of
law already quoted, "lnclutto unvui crt exclvsio
alteriut."- If I 'wish a piece of work done.
may say that my friend, Mr. Phillips, shall di
reel the manner in which it shall be done. If
hs gives directions, they are to be obeyed, al
though he does not say in his orders that no
other plan- shall be pursoed. It is, however,
not necessary to argue this point, as it is we
Settled as a rule of construction by every writer
oh constitut'onal law.
I say, therefore, that ths Supreme Court of
north Carolina would decide that a Convention
called by a majority of the people, vmder an act
passed by a majority in the Legislature, would
be unconstitutional.
But it isoaid, Mr. Speaker, thai tbe clause of
the Constitution giving tbe Legislature the pow
er to nail a Convention is guarded in its terms
and tbat two (birds are required, because the
people did not wish to be troubled with meet
ing in a Convention, whenever a majority of
tbe Legislature might choose. Tbis explana
i lion u gtvsn, to -anew tqai tnq-voovsatioa re
quired a two thirds vols of the Legislature,
while the majority principle, now contended for,
was retained. , Gentlemen here find themselves
in a dilemma. Thev cannot carry ont what
tbef now contend for, without 'the vote of a ma
ority of the Liegislature, ana yet tney say, iu
n sobstantiallt the same state of facta tbe Con
vention required two thirds. If Legislativo
act adds any thing to the proposed majority
Convention, we have no ngnt to pas it, except
by a twolbirds vots. If it adds nothingiwbere
is our right to pass it at an r aai sir, suppose
tbat the Legislature had been permitted by a
vote or a majority to can a uoneniion aim hbu
troubled tbe people. Tbe first Convention could
nave remeaiea tne evu. auu, sir, x wun w
know if tbe doctrine now asserted, is not quite
as troublesome. -According to that doctrine, a
majority of tbe Legislature may, from session
to session, keep the people voting on a conven
tion without end. ! ,
Furthermore: The principle contended for
is tbat an aot may be passed, by a majority of
tbe Legislature. A bare majority of tbe mem
bers present is all tbat ie required. Does this
look like the work or intent of the Conven
tion of 1 835? In both of the case provided by
them, three fifths and two thirds ofths wAos
number of members are required. A majority
of the people who happen to vote is also said to
be sufficient to call the Convention. A majori
ty of the whole number is not required. Two
bare majorities, one Legislative and one popu
lar, each of the most meagre kind, are all that
is neoessarv to create a body of men with the
full power to overturn every part and parcel of
our time honored Constitution.
But one step further. . Gentleman have made
lone and able speeches. Quoting tbe debates in
the Convention to prove tbe correctness of this
majority principle. I Now, Sir, Mr. Phillips is of
the oninion hat inJconstruiBtr the constitution,
the Supreme Court jean derive no aid from tbe
debates, suppose that in this be is right, w nat,
then, become of these long quotations with which
we have been entertained r subtract what is
'furnished by the. debates and not a great dear
is left. As 1 may not be misunderstood, bow
ever, nor be thought to shrink from an Inspec
tion of the proceedings of the convention of
1835, 1 will refer to them likewise in one in
stance only I could quote a doxen, but one will
do. And that one is not what Mr. A. or Mr. B.
said, but what the Convention did. Tbe Con-3
vention assembled : The subject of future a
mendment8 was referred to a committee of thirH
teen, lbe report and the only one made by
that committee was in the following words.
"That whenever a majority of the whole num
ber of each House of the General Assembly
shall deem it necessary to alter or amend this
constitution, they may propose such alterations
or amendment to the people, and the Governor
shall, by proclamation, lay the same before tbe
people six months before the ensuing election
for members of the General Assembly; and if
the two llooses of the General Axsembly thus
elected shall approve, as in tbe first instanoe, of
the amendments proposed, the same shall be
submitted to the people, for their ratification or
rejection, and, if latSfied by a majority, shall be
come a part of the constitution."
This, I say, is all the plan ever reported by the
committee. This plan which is more against the
power of the majority than the plan which I now
oppose, was rejected by a vote of 107 to 17, on the
ground th&t it placed the Constitution of the State
too much in the power of mere maj orities. Let
any man read the debates, page 346 to 350.
and be will See that I am right in every word I
ray. The report of the Committee and the two
plana adopted were the only plana considered fcjr
the Convention. Instead of the plan of the com
mittee, our present Legislative m?de, on motion
of Mr. Meares, was adopted. Theoonventioo thtn
supposed tbat no further action was to be taken
on the subject. Had nothing more been done,
every man must admit, aa I have said before,
that the present proposed plan would be wrong
Two days afterwards, however, Mr. Meares in
troduced, ''as an additional safeguard against
the efforts af a bare majority to uproot the fun
damental principles of government" a pro post
tion requiring a two-thirds vote to call a con
ventiou. Read the proceedings of the conven
tion, and you will find tbat it there was any
sentiment settled in the minds of the members.
t was that the constitution, which they were
then settling, should not be altered by a mere
njKjcrity. So much for tbis new doctrine ; a
doctrine which goes a bow-sbot beyond anything
tbat we have ever heard of before : a doctrine
which drags down the constitution from its sa
cred position and gives it no more authority or
dignity than a mere act of the Legislature ; a
doctrine which, in effect, abolishes the constitu
tion which our fathers left us; a doctrine which
will, in my opinion, meet the dcoided condem
nation of the people of North Carolina.
REMARKS OF
MR. PHILLIPS. OF ORANGE,
IS RIFLT TO TBS SIM ARKS OF UK. WINSTON. OF
BtKTlE, ON THI StJBJXCT OF A CONVENTION.
' Mr. Spkaekr: I ask permission of tbe House
to enter my dissent fiom the proposition of my
friend from Bertie, (Mr. Winston) and to state
tbe reasons why I hold it to be law in North Caro
lina, that a convention to consider of alterations
of the constitution may be called by the people.
acting at tne suggestion ot a bare majority of
the General Assembly.
In order to establish the contrary, the gentle
man has assumed that the constitution is to be
construed by the terms of the Aot of 1834.
which called the convention together. Merely
an Act of Assembly, that instrument has
generally been admitted to ex rt no power over
the expressions oi the constitution. It was ad
mitted that, as Mich, it could control not even
the formal action of the convention of 1835,
and therefore much more cannot affect tne re
sults of that convention, when ratified bv the
people, la brief, the proposition that tbe con
stitution can be restrained or enlarged by any
law pasKt-a by the General Assembly, is at war
with every idea of a constitutional government,
and is wholly indefensible. But it is said, that
this Act of Assembly, having been voted upon
by tbe people ; and, if not from that circum
stance, then from being referred to in tbe pre
amble to tbe amendments; has, from these facts,
or at least, from one of them, derived an anoma
lous power ; and so, although no part of the
constitution, is nevertheless an organic docu
ment, of a dignity equal to that of tbe constitu
tion ; and hence, tbat it is according to all ana
logies to say that tbe signification of tbe con
stitution may be controlled by its meaning.
The reply to these positions seems obvious.
Tl . i I II - . i
uuui p&rauei in tne case or one
man's giving a power of attorney to another, to
create a life estate in a certain tract of land.
If the latter under this power creates a fee, and
the principal subsequently ratifies that estate,
the deed binds according to its terms as ratified,
and not according to the language of the power
of attorney. This case is no more clear, than
the one which we are discussing, and the only
advantage to be gained from citing it is, that it
is one about which no excitement or prejudice
exists ; one which therefore may be settled up
on ite own merits, and the settlement of which
necessarily involves the solution of the question
before us. In arguing that the constitution of
North Carolina is binding only so far as it pur
sues the terms of the inetrument, under which
the convention w is called, whether that instru
ment be regarded as an Act of Assembly, or as
a quasi constitutional document, it seems to me
that the gentleman is trying to revive a rule of
construction once thought applicable to the Con
stitution of the - United States, a rule with re
gard to that instrument at a very early day ex
ploded and abandoned. Nobody contends now
that the Constitution of tbe United States is in
its various parte more or less binding, because
more or less conformed to tbe purposes indica
ted by tbe States, which convoked the conven
tion tbat gave it birth. Nor is there any better
ground for applying that rule to our consti tu
tion. If tbe delegates exceeded their commis
sion, that excess after ratification by the people
is as much a part of the constitution as any
and if there are any. omissions, these cannot be
supplied by reference, to ths act . which : pre-
serisea wnas taenia m done. Their written
report of the result of their labors, when subse
quently ratified by the people, was ail that was
engraftedupon bur constitution and whether,
as compared with tbeif commiisibn, defective
or redundant, tfeay and tt all was so engrafted.
Tbe number of its words cannot bo increased or
diminisbed,.npr tbe fores of its meaning en
larged or restrained by anj othe instrument
which Is" not of a dignity at least equal to its
own : I mean, by nothing unless found in the
Constitution of. North Carolina, or the Consti
tution and Laws of the United States.
We have before us a written Constitution,
tbe meaning of whose terms is to be discovered
from dictionaries; or, when technical, from their
usage in the sciences from which they hare
been borrowed; and this is -my reply to the
gentleman from ISertie, wben be urges that the
preamble to tha autandments refers to the Act
of 1834, and asks ! whether, in attempting to
discover the direction in which the convention
of 1835 went, we are not bound to consult the
position of that' guiding star," by which the
delegates profess their steps to hare been gui
ded f The white sails of the ship are in view,
and we should keep our eyes fixed upon them
in order to learn tbe direction in which it is
going ; the tracks of the caravaa are deep up
on the sand before us, and to discover its
a k ia a a . V
course, we should toiiow these, ana not tne
ravs of the star by which they believed them
selves to be guided. Wo shall grossly deceive
ourselves, if, in pursuing any object, we aban
don the evidence of our senses, and fall upon
some blind confidence in the results to be at
tained by balancing probabilities, by conjec
ture and bap-basard. And I do not know wby
it is not to lose all tbe benefits of a written
Constitution; if, with its pages before us, we
desert the light of its clear provisions for
the flitting fire-fltes of the contemporaneous
debates, or of the enactments wh ch gave birth
th MftMfihnM Ihak Framen it
Pfe Thesa remarks are due to the cause of truth.
and arc not compelled by any fear of the con
sequences of the opposite doctrine upon tbe
question at Issue. Upon tbe contrary, did 1
believe It right to embark upon the sea of con
lecture, into which my friend has launched
his boat, I might fish from its depths proofs
alkk ! nii.--ii.l.Ai Alia nm An fl Aft pAnctitn-l
USSW AJIO WUOtt UWUlUU VI VMS WIUVUUOU WHO hi fcVS
tion is one not to be relied upon ; proofs, too,
tbat are qaite as conclusive as any that he has
arrayed npon ihe opposite side. I shall return
to tJis hereafter, .but ask to make good that
claim, in s?me degree, here, by calling atten
tion to tbe manner in which the convention of
1835 waa constituted, with the view of show
ing the bias under. which it acted towards the
subject of its deliberations. Tbat convention
was composed of 130 members. Of these, 78
cams from counties which had voted "No Con
vention." Speaking of this circumstance, which
bad been alluded to by a distinguished Eastern
member, as M a melancholy fact which he
could not pass by'," Judge Gaston said in $he
convention, " He who enters upon a prescribed
task, with a strong repugnance to it. Seldom
performs it faithfully." That proposition
scarcely needed for 'its establishment the sanc
tion of his great name : and after all his labors
to nullify Its effect upon the convention of 1835,
its work bears obvious tracer of its operation.
I will refer briefly to one in point to this dis
cussion, and then pass on. By tbe loth sec
tion of the Act of 1834, which apparently came
in as an after thought every other duty of the
proposed convention being prescribed in sec
tion 13 tbe contention is directed to provide
in what manner amendments shall in future
be made to the Constitution. The reluctance
of the convention, a majority of whose members
were indisposed to even tbe pending changes.
to anticipate and provide for further altera
tions, is stamped upon the very first words of
the clauses which point to such alterations.
Tbey seem to intend a provision against all
future changes, rather than a mode in which
change may be effected. Both clauses com
mence witb a negative. This circumstance be
comes tbe more remarkable, in view of the
stricture's with which the convention adhered
to the form of expression used by tbe General
Assembly in all the clauses which direct its
course neon matters not discretionary. Here
the whole structure of the guiding enactment
is altered, a he Uenerai Assembly uses an af-
p . i . t
nrmauve expression ; tns convention a nega
tive one. The Assembly indicates that a di
rection shall be given ; the convention issues
a prohibition. May I not ask, taking up the
line of argument of my friend from Bertie,
whether, in order to arrive at the meaning of
tne expression agreed upon, between such a
body and ths people who ratified them, we are
to strain them etui further in order to extract
a prohibitory faree even beyond the language
of their obvious reluctance. Is not tbe contra
ry the rule of sound sense and of sound law ?
If a body of men, indisposed to act at all there
in, is instructed to devise a method of amend
ing the Constitution, the maxim of construe-;
tion, applicable to their labors, is contra prof
fereniem verba fortius, accipiuntur. The expres
sions of tbe convention, if pressed at all, are to
be pressed in a direction opposite to the basis
of its members. Thus only can we fairly ar
rive at me common intention ot the parties
to that contract; I mean, ths convention
which utttered, and the people who accepted it.
1 have introduced this allusion in order to
show that it is not interest which determines
me against pursuing the course taken bv tbe
gentleman from, Bertie. Having shown this,
f return to the -canon of criticism laid down
above, and protest against any other construc
tion than that afforded by an accurate conside
ration of the expressions used in the Constitu-i
tion. !
It is true that there is another view in which
it may be contended tbat the details of the act
of 1834 aie important, in considering the amend
ments to the v oobtitution. it may be said that
as tbe assent of tbe existing government is nec
essary to any lawful change of government, it
follows that any change in points not specified
in sueb assent must be revolutionary. 1 reply
tbat, as an act of Assembly, the material por
tions of the law of 1834 are. that it trivea tha
assent of the existing government to tbe oall of
a Convention, and prescribes certain forms of
ratifying tbe results of tbat Convention. ' Its
other parts I mean the limitations on the now-
: -x- -1 - v.
em oi insi vonvention, so iarasthey are ema
nations from the General Assembly, were ad
mitted by Judge G -sum to be void. They de
rive all their Effect lrom tha subsequent action
of the people. Inasmuch, then, as any. limita
tions upon the faction of Conventions by tbe
Legislature vr void, it must be presumed that,
even when the Legislature consents to a limited
Convention.it tbeieby, for all legal, purpose, j
consents to whatever tbe Convention : shall do
that may be ratified by the people ; and there
fore, that no changes of tbe Constitution made
in a Convention, to whose calling the existing
government hesfgiven its assent, are revolution
ary. That these limitations were subsequently
ratified by the people, and derive force there
from, is a point2 without bearing upon the im
mediate question, and, so far as it affects this
investigational all, has already been considered.
But, tbe gentleman urges that the act of 1834,
being referred to in the preamble to tbe amend
ments of 1835, thereby becomes a part of the
Constitution, pon the principle which has led
the Supremo Court to hold, that descriptions
contained in a deed, referred to in a second deed,
are to be considered as if contained in that se
cond deed; the! old legal maxim being verba
relata inesse videntur. There is a fatal inaccu
racy about this argument, in so far as it assumes
that tha preamble d the amendments is a part
of those amendments ; whereas, it is a mere or
dinance of the Convention passed by it in ooe
dieoce to the direction of tbe act of 1834. The
13th section of that aot directs tbe Con van tint.
to " adopt ordinance for carrying into effect
the amendments which shall be made," dbc.
oureiy, no one will contend tbat these ordinan.
cec are amendments. If so, where was the use
of specifying the exact length and breadth of
each amendment that the Convention
-.-,: ,. f.w.rnKi n the anmtitc or after, to thexercise of that power ny me
Uiuu aiicustvn vw w-w f - . l i" 1 1 .
tion of 1776. That refers to "an set of 4 the i other departments, is. thereby ueJf calling
d.:.:k i ..;..,.,- n... k. -AntnA tW b aueh Convention. ! This IS nc to ftdoitt
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ih Mt.t. tne DVvjvisioua oi tuai vi wau, .-.. -- T.r ; -j"- - ---- - --- --- l
Bail eouvewMiu.j f '
There seems' to be a cleat'distinction between
an act done by tb General Assembly, and an
net done by the People, with the . consent of the
General Aemb!y. High functions connected,
. . I . .. . ....Ut..in..!a- i.H W.iT-i.a in niir
nr.inii- Ixvr if e,iif listed to the rfiiresentativer
of the people, at all. may properly have been so
unier restrictions for securing a more than or-
dinarv atiordach to unanimity in order to per- ! azreed to strike out. On motion, the vote was
form' them ; at the same tim that to manifest j reconsidered, and the House refused to strike
a consent by thee reorenentnive.- to aucu acts out
Parliament are incorporated into the constitu
tion 1 If n .t, where does be draw tbe distinc
tion between tbat reference and the one before
nsf If tbero bo any diffewneebetweenhe
digafty of the prefli to tbe constitution of 1776,
and that to tbe amendments of-1835. it seems
to be in favor of tbe former. The former ap
pears to be strictly a part of the constitution,
whilst the latter is plainly only a portion of the
On motioo, tl e rules were suspended sod ,L
bill red a thud time. Mr. Smith offered bq
amendment. After a short discussion the
s-tgo of the bill Ay 60. Noes 38. The bill
passed. (Mr. Leach, in bis remarks on thU
bill, presented some statistics of an interesting
character. His speech will be published.)
Tbe bill concerning salaries and fees was ta
ken up, on motion. The question before the
House was an amendment, to strike out three
thousand and insert twenty-five hundred. The
House, voting at first under a misapprehension,
formal action of the Convention designed to
bring the proposed amendments before the peo
ple; but no more a part of tbe constitution than
are the proceedings about tbe organisation of
the Convention, or its daily order of. business.
Indeed, this point appears to be so obvious, tbat
I must attribute it entirely to inadvertence tbat
so sound a reasoner as the gentleman from Ber
tie has laid any stress upon it for the purposes
of his argument. -
y think, tben. Mr. Speaker, that I have a
right to conclude that tbe Act ot tso-ft cannot
be appealed to in construing the terms of the
amended constitution,
hat even admitting, that tbe gentleman is
correct in bringing to bear upon this subject
tbe language of the statute which provided for
the convention ef 1835, I suggest that there is
much reason for complaint of his inconsisten
cy. X be strength oi nis argument seems to me
to be contained in this proposition : The Legis
lature, among other things, directed the con
tion of 1835 to order the method by which the
constitution thereafter should be altered; the
convention did make an express order to that
effect; therefore, as according to the ancient
maxim of law what is expressed puts an end
to that which before was implied, the consti
tution can be alter-ei in no other way. By that
argument the gentleman arrives at the conclu
sion that no convention, ebange tbe constitu
tion can be called, except as is expressly pro vi
ded in the amendments; and so, desires to
change the proposition of his distinguished
colleague (Mr. Outlaw) to call such a conven
tion by tbe people, at the( suggestion ot a ma
jority of the General Assembly, by inserting
"two thirds of the General Assembly concur
ring." I ask how any one, who beli- ve in the
argument just stated, eaa consistently say that
any convention, even one called by two-thirds
of the General Assembly can change our con
stitution? Where is it found that this conven-
tin, whose existence is provided for, may take
upon itself to change tbe constitution 7 lbe
constitution provides only for its existence and
does not define, or even allude to, its powers ;
except indeed so far as the next clause, constru
ing the instrument, by tbe rule of my friend
from Bertie, exoludes trom those powers that ot
changing the constitution. For it says "No
part of this constitution shall be changed, ex
cept by what is known as the legislative mode.
let tbe gentleman admits that a convention
called by two thirds of tbe General Assemby
may alter our constitution ; but how he can
claim to be consistent in making this admis
sion, I confess myself unable to comprehend.
Surely, if the insertion of one methed of calling
convention does, as be asserts, exclude all
A number of amendments were rejected.
An ameudment offered by Mr. Uargan, pro
posing toincrease the salaries of none but the
Governor, Treasurer and Clerk, was adopted
by 72 ayes to 31 noes.
The bill was laid on the table.
Mr. Singeltay offered a substitute. A num
ber of amendments were offered and rejected.
The House took a reoess without coming to a
vote.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
3 o'clock.
The discussion on the bill concerning salaries
and fees continued. Mr. W hi taker offered an
amendment increasing the Secretary's salary.
Mr. Mordecai said he had always been against
increasing officers' salaries, but since there was
a disposition to increase those salaries, he
would change his course. He thought the Sec
retary. who had served tbe otate tor lorty
years and worn himself out in that service
i i i r: . .1
Wa8 particularly wortuy ui lucnuru vouipviina-
and, nnless it was done, ne sir. ) wouiu
gainst the bill altogether.
J. Barnes moved to postpone tne Mil
ndefinitely. The ayes and noes demanded.
Aves 26. Noes 57. On Mr. v bi taker's amend
ment, tbe ayes and noes were demanded. Ayes
22. Noes 91. Mr. Winston offered an amend
ment, "that those officers shall receive no oth
er compensation whatsoever." Mr. Singelta
ry objected, tbat it cot off the fees of those of
ficers. Mr. Winston explained and demanded
tbe ayes-and noes. . Ayes 94. Noes 20. On
the passage of tbe bill, as amended, the ayes
and noee were demanded.. Ayet 50. Noes
43. The bill passed its second reading. ' On
motion of Mr. Baxter, the rules were suspend
ed and the bill put on its final reading. Mr.
Patterson offered an amendment striking out
the words, "or clerks." which was adopted. The
bill passed its third and last reading.
; On motion of Mr. Humphrey, a bill for the
construction of a railroad from tbe town f
Beaufort to Fayetteville was taken up. An a
mendaient offered by Mr. Humphrey, striking
out eertain sections, was adopted. The bill pass
it aonnd reading.
Ml nn m,.t;ftn nf Me. T. II Williams, the bill
etion, gtveflHJr u. v.t. .:!-..:-. ' .....
1 hat great source of iegislativeT" " . , ,.of4:w
U Y IWI j VUUW WWag
Mr. Butter offered substitute. A discus
sion arose, during which the bourmrrired fur
taking a recess.
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ra'.na .nlw th Kt. I""'
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when performed by the Peupl-, si purtof whose
ordinary legislation ucder ou'r frn..s of goern
meut such acta are, there may be very good
reason why no depariurefiom the common rules
of proceeding should '"be demanded. There
seems to le nu color for contending that provis
ions restrictive of the former action compre
hend as well the Utter. Ah bearing somewhtt
upon this p.inr, I cite the 5th section of the De
claration of HiSits. which userts that "all
power ot suspending laws, or the execution of
laws by any authority, without consent of the
representatives of the people, &s , ought not to
be exercised :'" which implies that there exists
somewhere among the departments of our gov
ernment a power to suspend laws, &o.: a power.
although such an one as ought not to be exer
cised without consent, &c. This section is aim
ed at the powers in our system of government,
wherever rested or left, that are analogous to
the powers exerted over our Colonial Legisla
tion by the King:! exerted, too, in England, with
out question in its early history, but in later
timet, onlv under bad trovernmei.r. It seems to
,
me a much too uarrow con
tion to suppose that it rest
utive in .North Carolina
consideration which cone 1
in England finds! its correspondent, in North
Carolina in the Governor. , In England the
King U the source of all political power. The
enacting clauses of the old statutes show that he
alone was the legislative power, and I believe
tbe former continues much the same at tbe pre
sent day. It was in virtue of this transcendent
power tbat be claimed that right whose exer-
else without consent, etc.. is stigmatised in tne
section before us. Its exercise in England was
I at all times strictly in accordance witn the theo
ry of the Constitution, but at length ceased on
der the continued encroachments of the growing
freedom of the subject. It may bavebeen
thought by those who framed this section that
it would find its appropriate object in the.new
ly created Executive. It may be that from an
inootitiideration, which,, however, I will not at
tribute to them, they concluded that the English
crown was represented iu the new form of gov
ernment by the; Governor. Time has taught us
better, lbe history of. the principle incorpor
ted, and the lmgUjage of the section.
i wider scope. That iir.
power which, in hnland, is represented by the
King, fio'ls its parallel with us in the People.
And, if it be true that, ia the , language used
above, this section is aimed at those powers
amongst us thatare analogous to the King's in
other methods of doing it, then, a fortiori the
insertion of one method of amending the con
stitution, when declared to be exclusive of all
others, must be held to exclude them, no matter
how allowable theretofore. Nor can it bo urged
that tbe word convention necessarily imports a
body wbose labors are conversant with changes
of the Sute Constitution. ' Our own history
shows the contrary. They are relied upon as
tests of the popular will upon all extraordinary
occasions of sufficient solemnity. A convention
brought JMorth Carolina into tbe Union, and
the year 1850 is not so far distant from the
present that we can forest tbat it is extensive
ly relied upon as the proper means of carrying
it out. If, then, conventions are parts of our
political machinery, having other objects than
such as concern our State Constitution, those
who insist that tbe sort of convention specified
in our constitution is exclusive of all others, are
involved in gross inconsistency wben tbey al
low that that convention may intermeddle with
the constitution. tTm the more particular in
calling attention' to the consequences of this
doctrine, because it is the cardinal error of this
great heresy against popular rights, f Tbe tui
tion ia not peculiar to tbe gentleman from Ber-j
tie, but is common to all who deny tbat a con
vention may be called by the people acting at
the suggestion of a majority of tbe General As
sembly. They all admit that a convention
called upon the two-thirds principle may effects
changes in the constitution ; and yet, with this
admission upon their lips, do not blush at de-V
nouncing as revolutionary those who, on the
principle that they admit, maintain the position
now occupied by myself. land lucid argument of the learned gentleman
No such inconsistency's attributable to ns. f.from Bertie. .
Startine with that fundamental nrinoinle of our U
England, then ny intermei lling, tha small
est, and therefore any irreater, by the People in
legislation without consent of their repreaenta
tives is denied, but with such consent is imj
pliedly affirmed. And I think it clear that tb
section recognixeaactioo by the General Assem
bly, and action by some other power with con
sent ot theueiierai Assembly, as essentiallv di-tl
verse, although equally allowable. 1 conclude
that, being different, tbe formal regulation of
the former can by no means be construed to be
as well a regulation of the latter. Nor need it
be added that the word law. in this section ex
tends to constitutional provisions, which are our
supreme laws, and so of all our legislation that
only which can fairly be compared with Acts of
Parliament the suspension of which suggested
this 5th section ; these latter being the eu-
reiue and over riding laws of Great Britain.
1 sum up what 1 have sail into the result :
ha: the right of the people to call a conven
tion, with' the concurrence of a majority of
the General Assembly, is aeonsti .ationa! right,
because not expressly or by necessary implica
tion inhibited; and is not revolutionary, be
cause effected, with the concurrence of the ex
isting government: '
That Legislators may differ about the txpe
diency of calling a convention by the people at
the suggestion of a majority Vf tRe -General As
sembly, I can very well understand. Different
degrees of confidence in the people may very
well account for this disagreement. Buthaw
any good lawyer can assert that such a call ia
unconstitutional Ijio notynderstad ; not even
now, sir, that 1 nave had the aid of the strong
4
liberty, That all power not aranted in our or
ganic law remains with the people, and bearing
in our hands, as a lamp, that great rule of con
struction in all American Constitutions, that
the people are not included-in any restraining
provisions, unless referred to expressly, or by a
necessary implication, our way is equally short
and clear.- The constitution savs "No Con.
vention shall be called by the General Assembly J
unless," to. That general w rds in statutes dot
vJI c r . a I
not oiuu too sovereign, is a maxim OI construc
tion pervading tbe whole body of tbe Law. The
rule is not merely technical. It has good sense
in it ; and whatever the measure of that good
sense may bo, it is increased in its application
to tbe position that no general expressions are
derogatory to the rights of tbe people ; bow
much more, Sir, when, as here, the restraint is
in terms aimed at" an individual, and, as regards
the people, a subordinate department of the go
vernment. The provision is, as it were, a piece
superadded in order to regdlate another portion
of the same machinery, and is not intended to
apply to the hand of tbe operative which, from
STATE LEGISLATURE.
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ll iin viuico way cowe, sir, wncH 11 will DC a
received; canon oi constitutional construction
that tbe powers of the people must yield to re
kstraints by ordinary implication.' I bone tha
uhose times are far distant, for they will be bad
ItimeSjj sor ourselves, there is groond for con
SENATE.
, FaiDAT, Feb. 9, 1855.
The bill hi relation to the Fayetteville and
Warsaw Plank Road Company was read the
third time and passed.
The bill to incorporate the Moore and Mont
gomery Plank Road Company was passed the
third time by Ayes 13 to Noes 20.
The unfinished business of yesterday tbe
revenue bill -was taken np and discussed.
The Senate receded from its disagreement
to the House bill for the completion of the
xortn AJaroiina nauroad.
The Senate then took recess. ;.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
A number of private bQIs a'nd engrossed
bills from the House of Commons were read.
Tbe Senate then resumed the ' consideration
- r .i -v .!,.... . .
wi me revenue -urn. After oeinz amended in
Niam? SESSION.
The House met at 7 o'clock.
Tbe following bills, passed their final read-
A resolution concerning furniture for the
Executive Mansion.-'
A bill concerning tbe County seat of Madison.
A slight discnaaionyroee between Messrs. Vance
and Yancy,"Tie bill passed its second reading.
Mr. Winstoa said if t Salary bill were taken
from the Ub&Vnc could, ix it in five minutes,
and moved to take it up. (Laughter.) Motion
refused. "'
Mr. Sharpe moved to suspend the rules and
take up a bill for the establishment of Graham
Co. Refused.
A bill for the establishment of tbe town of
Whitehall
A bill concerning public. printing. (A sub
stitute from the Senate committee was read.
A gool deal of discussion arose on a motion by
Mr. Mann to strike out all that part concern
ing the election, of a public printer. Tbe ayes
were demanded. Ayes 42, Noes 42. Tbe chair
decided in the negative.)
Mr. Mann offered another amendment. The
ayes and noes were demanded. Ayes 45, Noes
40 ; amendment adopted.
Mr. Cook moved a reconsideration. Refused.
On motion of Mr. Singeltary, the bill was
put on its final reading and passed.
A resolution in favor of B. F. Moore and Aa
B'gg8 was laid on the table, on motion of Mr.
S. A. William s.
A bill authorising tbe Literary Board to loan
a sum of money to tbe Richmond High School
of Laorinbnrg. Amended and passed three
readings. ' ..
A message from the Senate was read. The
Senate revised to accept, the resolution conoer-
I ping the election ot commissioners for the Lu-N-aatie
Asvlum. and an amendment to the bill
time to time, adjusts that machinery, putting gseveral particular .iKj bill jtassedr it second
Mr. Jones introduced a resolution nrovidin
. t u:-- ..,, ,.. .
w uwuiug uiut sraaunis, wuksm was adopted:
The bill to improve the navigation of the
Roanoke -River was read the third time and
passed, by Ayea 25, Noes 15.
The bill to provide for the construction and
repairs of the nublio roads wn reA th hi,A
jgratoiation that W live too near to the days Of time and passed. ft
fthe Revolution, and the origin of our free insti-1 Thsioiut resolution from the nnuaa nf f!nm.
Rtntions, to stand in danger of its prevalency in I mons, appointing nine directors of the Lunatic
four generation. And 1 take occasion here to lAsylum. was rejected, i
protest against its being suggested as a rule
that may be relied upon amount as for anv
purpose. No one can say whither it may lead,"
or how bitter, though remote, mav be the con-'
euucnc ui iw lutrouucnon into ueoaea anon
-ur Constitution. I
But my friend from Bertie says that if a
convention may no caned by tbe people through
the medium of a majority of the General As
sembly, he does not see why any concurrence
of the General. Assembly is needed. I have
already said that some concurrence of the ex
isting government ie necessary in order to pre
vent the change effected by tbe people from
being revolutionary That ie the turning point
of the decision in Dorr' case. I need not elab
orate that point here. r But I maybe permitted
to say that my understanding of that decision
of the Supreme Court of the United States is
that the right of the people to change their
government is a revolutionary right, wben exer
cised without tbe consent of tbe existing gov
ernment; but when exercised with that con
sent, is a legal rights 'It seems to me tbat thee
is some confounding of the particular function
exercised by the Legislature in convoking a
convention, and tbat other function of render
ing sncb a convention legal amongst those
who contend tbat we "who allow
to borcalled by the people, at the suggestion of
M Jfc Atnta :,P .L PI 1 O OSB I
NIGHT SESSION.
The Senate was mostly ensraired on nrin.
ills and bills of a local nature.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Fainar, Feb., 9tb 1855.
The House met at the usual hour.
Mr. Cofield introduced a bill to incorporate
the Carolina Hotel co in Fayetteville. On no
tion, the rules were suspended, and" tbe bill pass
ed iu final reading.
Mr. J.G. Bynum, a bill from the joint select
committee on Club-foot and Harlow creek ca
nal, for tbe improvement of said eanal
Mr. Cansler from the committee on Internal
Improvement reported favorably on a bill to
incorporate the Fayetteville and Raleigh plank -road
co.
Mr. Bryson presented a resolution in-favor
of Andrew Cope.
Message from the Senate. The Senate trans
mitted a resolution in favor of W. H. Winder,
with an amendment, in which the-concurrence
of the House was asked. On an explanation
from Mr. Jenkins, the House objected to the a
mendment.
Mr. W'augh from tbe committee on Proposi
tions and Grievances presented
r . n Vl"
wo motion or air. Sutton, the report
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uia&c, ucu we wnoic matter was to be left a til
sea by nermittintr tha- Convention ta fFt kn
oonstitntion by prdioaaces f If tbe ordinance
is no part of the oonstitntion then, assuredly
the act refsrred to therein ia none. To make
uus matter suulsarer, 1st me oall the gtntle
tvfpLi.n.
a majontyof the GeuerU Assembly, are thsr-l was ordered to be printed,
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General AmWy, by titbit. assenbsfoTe inoss wsj dsniiiSsdr Ayis58 Jfos 11
incorporating the Wilmington Savinge Bank.
Amendments to the Fayetteville and Centre
plankroad bill and the Yadkin Navigation co.
were concurred in by the House.
On motion of Mr. Shepherd, tha resolution
in favor of Messrs. Moore and Biggs was taken
from the table. -Mr.'&fA. Williams moved to
strike out $1,500 and insert $1,000. Lost. On
the passage of the bill, the ayes and noee were
demanded. Ayes 40. Noes 31. The bill pass
ed ia second and third readings.
ENoaossxn Bills raoit u Sxhatx.
A bill to incorporate the town of Madison in
Rockingham co. i j
A bill to change the names of the police mag
istrates of Fayetteville and Wilmington to May
or. A bill to incorporate the Silver mining co.
in Davidson eo.
A bill for the better regulation of tbe town
of Hillsboro. .
The above bills passed three readings.
A bill to incorporate tbe Newborn Mutual
Insurance eo. Passed..
A bill to ebange-the name of Jamestown, in
the county of Martin, to Jamesville. Passed.
A bill authorising the chief engrossing clerk
to employ whatever assistance he may requiro
produced some discussion. Amended and pas- (
ATesolotion In favor of W. A. W inborn. A2
mended and passed.
A resolution in favor of JohaB. Debnam pro
duced some discussion, and, on motion, was
laid on the table. ,. s -;
The Uoase adjourned.
SENATE. . ..C . '
. Satckdat, Feb. 10, 185$.
The bill to prevent tbs further trading with
slaves in Mecklenburg and ' Northampton was
read the third time and passed.
On motion of Mr. Mousey, tbe vote by which
the bill to incorporate tbe Moore and Montgom
ery Plank Road was rejected, was reconsidered,
and ths bill passed its third reading, by ayes
18, noes 14.
Mr. Biggs introduced a bill in relation to the ,
Superior Court of Law in Tyrrell county, which
was read three times and passed. .
The resolution concerning the Farmer's Bank
of Elisabeth City was read tbe second time and
laid on the table. '
The bill to alter the lias between tbe coun
ties of Buncombe and Madison was read and
rejected.
The Senate then took op tbe bill concerning
the revenue.
AU tbe amendments made on the second rea
ding were stricken out, and the bill passed its
third reading..'
Several private bills were read and passed.
The Senats took a recess.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
Ths bill to incorporate the Lexingfotr anl
North-western Railroad company was. zead the
second time and rejected.
Tbe bill to provide for the com pie tie of a sur
vey for a railroad west from tbs French Broad
valley, by the Duck Town Copper Mines, was
read tbe third time and passed.
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