FftOCEKDETGS OF THE '.1.EOISLA
TUBE OP HOIlTHi CAROLINA.
v " ' SENATE- ' .
- - TcttDAT, Jan. 8th, 1MU
- The Speaker called the Senate to order at'lS
; minute of II o'clock.- 1 ) " I
' Journal of yesterdav wis and approved.
On moUon of Mr. 'Humphrey, the Journal of
Thursday Dec 20th, was read and amended.
Ur. Humphrey moved to reconsider the vote
Yrr which waa ceased hie motion on Testerday to
. refor Ue bUl to refund to! the Banka of North-
A Carina moneys improperly collected frooilhem
v to Um MaeiUMoa Banks and eorreaey, as aaid
bill fed been referred to th committee on the
Judiciary. Agreed to. - I
Mr. Humphrey then withdrew hia motion.
" Mr. Simpson introduced afreaolution to instruct
the committee on Finance to enquire into the-ax-pediency
of reducing the UK on Merchants from
half of 1 per cent, to one fourth of 1 per cent
Adopted- .. t . . - j, - , . - . ,
Mr. Baaaiay, a resolution requesting the Gov
ernor to have raised overt the Capitol the Na
tiaaal Fla. !- - !
Mr. Barton moved to lar the res jlutlon on the
table. ; " -
Mr. Bamaay called for the yeas and nave.;
Mr. Barton said If Mr. Bamsay 'would amend
' his resolution, by inserting the Flag of North Car
ottna instead of the National Flag, he would with
draw his motion to lay a ;the table. Mr. Kern
- aav declined doiae so. . ' . '
The question upon the motion of Mr. Barton
was tbea put, and determined in the affirmative:
Yeas S3, nays 18. : ., - ,U- ' i
Mr. Dixon introduced aj insolation instructing
the committee on Finance, to enquire Into the ex
pedieocy of reducing thetax on Bowie Knives.
Adapted. . f i ' "
- A message was received from the House of
Common, announcing the concurrence of 'that
body In the proposition of the Senate to print the
attemnt tit the Public Treasurer.. Also", an-
nooecinr Messrs. Heorv. Canadv. McMillan and
Patterson as the committee on eiroiled bills for
the present weak. . -
Mr. Street introduced a resolution iastnioting
-. the committee on Finance to enquire into the ex
pediency of taxing the hire of slaves and report
by bill or otherwise. - Adopted.
' Mr. "Walker, a bill to provide for the establish
log of schools for the education of common
schools teachers. Bead 1st time, passed, referred
- to the committee on Education and the Literary
Fund and ordered to be printed. '. '
Mr. Si owe, a bill to amend the act of incorpo
ration of the Town of Lincoln ton. Referred to
the committee on Corporations. -
A message was reed red from the House of
Commons transmitting an- engrossed resolutions,
in favor of Edward xarborougb, to. defray the
expenses of the Commissioners from Alabama ;
anaounced its passage in that body and asked the
ooneurreoce of the Senate. The . resolution was
: ntd tha hnl time and nassed.
Mr. Burton moved a temporary suspension of
the rales, and put the resolution on its 2d and 3d
Mr. Sharp moved that the resolution be refer
red to the wmiaiuee oa claims.- Not agreed to.
Messrs. Dockery, Eure, HelL Sharpe, Burton
. Thomas, of Dav.dson, and Lane, spoke upon the
motion to suspend the rules. ! :
The motion prevailed, and the resolution read
the 2nd and 3rd times, passed and ordered to be
Mr. "Whedbee introduced a bill to incorporate
Engine Fire Co. No. 3 in Elizabeth City,.rasquo
. tank county. Bead 1st time, passed and referred
to the commute on corporations. ... 1 i
M r. Simpson, in accordance with a notice given
on yesterday, moved that the Senate assemble
. fat-maRer ai. 10 o'clock. A.' -M- Agreed to j
The toilewinc bills and resoluuon were Ukea
- up and read the 3rd time, 2 passed, and ordered to
be engrossed. - j : ,
A bill to aothorixe James H. Allen, late Sher
iff o: Brunswick ciuntyi to collect arrears of
taxes. - , i
A resolution in favor of John Pate. ' j
A bill to authorize and empower the surilies
of William Pollock, late Sheriff of Jones county,
to collect arrears of taxes. . - i ' ! ,
Also a bill to amend '3d section of 85th chapter
of th Revised Code, concerning Pilots. ' I j
A metsaee from the House of Common, trans-
miUed a message from Gov. Ellis, accompanying
' a com manica Uoa trm tae V estern ortn Caro
lina Bail Bond Company, with a proposition to
print the same.
. On motion of Mr. Bledsoe, the message was laid
ontheUMSv '. ' . - t- I
The bill to repeal an- act passed at the session
. of 1868 and 9, concerning Cherokee and Bobesqn
counties, area read the 2d time, and passed. I
The bill to amend chap. 101 of the Bevised
Code was read the 2nd time. . . t' !
The biQ pro v Idas tor all males between the
aees of 21 and 45 years working npon. roads, ex
erupting Justices of the peace. Cons tables, Keepers
or public grtst Miua, ardens o me poor, .rat-
rollera. Teachers and .rupile or scnoou and XocK
kemers on the IXsual Swamp Canal, i ,
Mr. Itiedson demanded the yeas and najs upon
the passage of the billJand the question beirg ta
ken thereon, was decided in the negative. ;. . Veas
. lt;nay22. i 1
A mates re was received from the House -of
Ccmmona transmittinr an enrrossed bill, to au
thorize the holding of a 'Court of Oyer and Ter
miner in the county of fJaswell, for the trial of
slaves, under the charge or rape and outer lelio
nies, announced its passage in that body, and ask
ed the concurrence of the Senate.. The bi'l was
read the 1st time, and passed. i
. Oa motion of Mr. Brown, the rules were sus
pended temporarily, the bill was read the 2nd
aad 3rd times, passed and ordered to be enrolled.
Mr. Dockery offered aa amendment to the 8lh
- Joint rule which was adopted.
Mr. Avery moved that the message from the
House accompanying the communication from
the 'Western North Carolina Railroad Company,
he taken xom the table, and that U proposition
of the House to print the same, be concurred in.
Agreed to. - J - ... .r
The bill to prevent the felling -of timber ia cor
tain streams in Hertford couuty, and the bill to
prohibit the emancipaUoa of slaves ty will, were
read the 2nd time and passed. f . ;
I Mr. Turner presented some resoluikns. endor
ting the resolutions recently Introduced in the
' United States Senate, by Mr. Crittenden, r els tin
to National Afiaira, and asked to have them pr
ted, in connection wiut ue resolutions oz
Crittenden, aa he' desired to offer them as
sUtute to the convention Bill presented b
committee on jvederal Belationa. Agreed
On motion of Mr. Barringer, the Sena
.Jouracd. - j ; ';
HOUSE OF .COMMONS.
i '1 Tcmnar, Jan
t
8.
The Houee met at 10 o'clock.
The Journal of Monday was read and
proved. . "I ...
A message was read from the Senate, aanounc-
' ing their branch of the Committee on Enrolled
Bills for the week. : :r : :
. Also, a message from toe Senate concurring in
. the proposition of the House to raise a Joint select
committee npon the subject of slaves and free ne
groes, and informing the House of the Senate
branch of the Commute. "
. Messrs. : Marsh, Wright, Davis, of Meckksc burg,
Davis, of Bjitberford, and Pope constitute .the
Hoove branch of the Committee. , : :
The following proceeding of meetings upon
Federal matters were presented and read : .
. , By Mr. Flemiag, the proceedings of a meeting
held to the county of Rowan. -By
Mr. Oennady, the proceedings of" a meet
i inr held at Eitreil's Springs, in Granville co.
By Mr. Carson, the proceedings of a meeting
held ia the county of Alexander: p. .
Mr. Carson, said that the resolutions were passed
by a meerti sg coca posed of members of both polit
ical parties, end tae moat innuenuaJ portion of his
constitaenta.
Mr. WilTUms, of Nash, the proceedings of a
meeting held in the county of .Nash. . - j
Mr. Williams stated that the meeting was called
without distinction of party, and was competed of
men devoted to a Constitution! Union ;- but
that they considered all hope was gem for aa boo
- arable adjustment; that to watch and wait longer
was but to invite ranker aggression. '
By Mr. "Wilkerson, the proceedings of a mass
1 action ofjparty, ..". .". y f
By Mr. Hamnrton, the proceedings of a meet
lag bald la - Boekfish district, la the county of
nmberlend. .. .1. . y
By Mr. Merrimon, the proceedings of two meet
ingt held In the county of Buncombe.
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The following memorials -wera presented and
referred : , ; ,: - '". i . : ' ' -
Br Mr. Merrimon, a memorial from cmxen oy
n . . i r .k.vii.
iwu vs mmmm s aa r- k
By Mr. Clarke, of Cravea.a memorial from cil-
izans oi vraven, praying-a ujuaiuiu "
laws relating to pilots.. . ;
By Mr. Love, of Jackson, a memorial from J.
M. Hooper, Hogb Rogers and others, to abolish
J ary trials in the county courts of Jackson coun
ty. . " -v
Also, a memorial from Thos. H. Galloway and
others, to change the line between the counties of
Hendoreoa and Jackson.
By Mr. "Williams, of Nash, a memorial from
"Wright Locust, a free negro, asking to be allowed
to enslave himself.'
Mr. Wright asked leave to be excused from
serving on tie Joint Committoson slaves and free
negroes- ' .
He was accordingly ecued, and Mr. Bridgers
substituted in his place. - i
Mr. Ransom introduced a resolution to pay
CoL Edward Yarborough $109.
Mr. Ransom stated that the amount was to
cover the bill for the entertainment of the Com
muaioners from Alabama and Mississippi uunng
their stay. !
Mr. Mendenhall said that he was uot opposed to
the payment of the money, but that be thought
the resolution ton naked. He thought it ought to
be stated in the resolution for what the amount
I was paid. . ' '
I -r r .t.tA tv.t Ka Kill hA hftun far-
ill r. iwuivui m
nisbed, but that it was thought not necessary to
attach it to the resolution. It was rather indeli
cate to do so, and for that reason it was purposely
drawn as it is. 1 .
Mr. Ferebee was himself willing to vote for it
as it is. H was satisfied with' it ; but, to satisfy
all, he could see no objection to merely stating
tht it was to par the rxpenMs of the Commis-
t inn Ars
Mr. Hill thought that there was an improprie
ty in MaLinv iheM items n this way. i It was
unnsual. -
Mr. Mendenhall said that he did not profess to
b u exnert in the ru'w or etiquette. lie was
not for requiring the iu-ms, he merely wanted it
to state lor wnai tne amount is paia.
Mr. Crumnler susrested that the object could
be accoraplisned by amending the resoldtion, to
say the amount was paid in accordance witb the
resolution No. , which made the gentlemen
composing the Commissioners the guests of the
State. ' . , ,
Mr. Mendenhall offered an amendment, in ac
cordance with the above suggestion, which was
neeatived.
The rules were , suspended, and the resolution
was passed its second and third readings, ana or
dei ed to be enrrossed.
A.mestaee' was received from the Governor,
transmitting a report front the President of the
"Western North Carolina Railroad, which, on mo
tion of Mr. Ferebee; was ordered to be sent (o the
Senate with a proposition to print.
The following are reports from Standing Com
mittees : '
Mr. Merrimon, from the Judiciary Committee
reported bck to th House several bills, recom
mending .hat they be referred to the Committee
on Slave -and Free .negroes. Concurred in.
Mr. Balchelor, from the same Committee, re
ported back a bill to amend the Bevised Code,
chap. 5, sec. 1 relating to lunatics, with an amend'
ment, and recommended its passage.
The following resolutions were introduced :
By. Mr. Love, of Haywood, a resolution in fa
vor of Jesse McGee.
By Mr. Mendenhall, a resolution to authorize a
settlement with the agent 'or collection of Cher
okee bonds. ; .
The following bills were introduced and appro
priately referred :
By Mr. tfintlow, a bill to increase the revenue
of the State. Imposes a tax of ti per cent. n
all moneys collected by execution, where specie is
demanded.
By Mr. Peebles, a bill to alter the term of of
fice of Sheriffs. Extends the term to fuir yars,
and disqualifies for re election until a li of
eight rears from first election. i
By Mr. "Ward, a bill to incorporate the Tren
ton and Hover iurnnice tympany
By Mr. Cline. a bill to prevent tan felling of
timber in Henry s and Jacob s Fork, in thecoun
tie rf Burke and Catawba.
By Mr. Cannedy.a bill to incorporate the Trus
tees of Tally-Ho Female Academy, in Granville
county.
Bj Mr. Batchelor, a bill to amend chap. 93, sec.
9, Revised Code.
By Mr. Jordan, a bill to prevent the felling of
umber in tne Jrrencn Broad river, in the county
of Henderson.
By Mr. Mendenhall, a bill to incorporate Con-
coru iopper jawing Vompany.
. By Mr. Davis, of Mecklenburg, a bill to incor
porate the Hornet Nest Riflemen. .
Mr. Greene, of Franklin, moved to suspend the
rules, and take up the bill to arm and equip the
State.
Mr. Martin demanded the ayes and noes.
The motion prevailed, and the bill was read the
third and last time.
Mr. Farrew said he had no doubt but that this
bill was going to be passed ; and as he was com
polled to vote against it, he felt called upon to
state to the House the reasons that influenced him
in doing so.
He was for having such arms as were in the
State, belonging to it, and having them put in
serviceable order for the use of our people, should
they be required. : He could not see the urgent
necessity for tne passage of this bill that seemed
to present itself to the minds of some others here.
He thought that if there was really any necessity for
arming the State, that this bill wou d not accompl n
it. If the necessity was so apparent as some sup
posed, he thought that a million of dollars was
Jittla enough to annronrialn.
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Mr. F. spoke at some length in refereooaio the
state of. the country during which he said if
some were so very anxious to secede, he wa in
favor of letting them go ; but was opposed to their
dragging tbot with then that preferred to remain
a while longer. - j
. Mr. Henry offered the fallowing amendment :
lit u further enactea, mat the arms procured
by the above appropriation shall be distributed by
ia uoTrrour w cku vuuaij in ujv owte, in pro
portion to the number of men capable of betring
Mr. Henry said: Mr. Speaker I voted to sus
pend the rules that the bill might be taken from
the table with a hope that it could be so amended
as to enable me to vote for it on its third and final
reading. I have introduced the amendment with
no desire to weaken or defeat the passage of the
bill, but to secure and protect the interest of the
State at large. If the amendment is adopted, it
will do equal justice to every man in the State ca
pable of bearing arms Defeat the amendment,
and I must record my vote against the-Mil.
"Without some guarantee that $300,00 worth of
arms are to be distributed throughout the State
for the protection of her people, I never will, by
any vote of mine, agree to tax them to buy arms
that may soon leave tne state to nght the battles
of other States. . The amendment simply declares
that the Governor shall distribute tne arms to
each county in the State in proportion to the num
per of men capable or bearing arms. . Justice.
right and equity are involved in the measure, and
in behalf of my people, I desired it ' Sir, my pee
ls are generous, brave aad f ndustnoua. Peacea
le themselves, they iayjUi no dash of arms from
abroad. . Having no .battles to fight, they have
made out mue preparation rcr war ; but it war is
aad must come upon them, then thev claim their
just portion or tne implements "f war, for which
tney- are to be Used in this bilL They know their
rights, they kve their country and respect their
rulers, but when the heavy hand of oppression by
taxation, or in any other way, U laid upon theni.
they will not fail to mark and call to judgment
their oppressors. 'I desire to embrace-the rights
of the easL the interior and the rock bound coun
ties of the west in my amendment. ' It will meas
ure out justice and equality to all sections, and
harm none. I must confess, sir. that I have soon
no just cause why the- people of North Carolina
should be tdrown into such anebulition of passion
and mad desire ror war and bloodshed. I have
been charged. Mr. Speaker, in this Hall, and in
other parts of the country, as being an ultra Union
man, or ana-secession man. : I know, sir, that I
am not a favorito with the Democratic, or that
new-born scintillating organitation, called the se
oessioa party. I have nothing to fear of a politi
cal nature, lor myself, in the future, but my heart i
move wfJ anxious fear for my country.'
Let mo ask honorable member in this Hall to j
pause and read the present condition of their,
country, aad then ray if a love of country should
rt Lf U1..V
not animate the breast of every patriot, j Wild
madness. , toe of confidence, and brutal passion
rule, the day. Maliceand rwentroent have taken
tK of Mnfldence and oc
social regain, uuiu
eacn otner as memoers vi u --
family. All channels end branches of honest in
dustry are drooping and becoming paralytic.-
Men throughout the land are being driven to
tale of bankruptcy. Buin stares them and their
families in the face in all time to come. ! Did
sund for myself alone in this contest of human
passions, then my iate might trouble but few? but
itanding here the humble representative of more
the-. 15,000 people, the young and the old, the
mother and the daughter, the master and the ser-
servant, I snould ne a traitor to my irus
ftllUr LU UIT fcl Via., A
- a n n. , r r nwu nn itiibi l.iii i
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enemr to mv rtux, wmw yt- ---
of nolitioal misrule and corruption. 5 J f
If for stnn Jintr by my country in such a cruia
bring upon me the charge of a jubmtssionist, then
I say I heed not the imputation. I follow no leaaer
for mere name. Animated by the warm support
and confidence of my people at home, I will stand
by the Union of the States until I see an honest
cause why I should dsert it and all its cherished
memories. Sir, I will ding yet longer and still
longrto the Union and my State, though every
member in this Hall shall leave me, and ray life
'.k.ll am. fwim ra n iri in mv bodv.-'
U.ll ww i.wu. - y J
T honcatlv invite members to accept my amend- I
ment and with it the support of my friends.
Mr. Speaker, witn tnese remaras, s resuuiu "VI
seat.
The question was put, and the amendment was
lost. " ' fJ.
Mr. Shober offered an amendment providing
for a distribution of the arms among the, several
volunteer companies in the several counties in pro-:
portion to the population in each county capable
of bearing arm, and requiring bond?, &c., for
their safe keeping; and if no such company or
companies existed in any particular couuty, or not
a sufficient number to exhaust the quota of such
county, requiring the Governor to hold the same
for three months ; and if none should be' formed
within that ime, or not a sufficient number to
exhaust said quota, authorizing their distribu
tion among the other coun'i"s having more vol
unteer companies than could he supplied by the
first distribution, unless in the meantime, thearnis,
or any portion of them, should be required to repel
Insurrection or invasion. '. -
"He said that he had always been dipoixl to
vote for the bill, with, a single amendment pro
viding for a distribution of the arms. He' had
voted for a suspension of the rules to put the bill
upon its second and third readings, and had oth
erwise indicated his favor of the bill in voting
down all the amendments that appeared to be de
signed merely to clog it, and voting for such only
as he thought were right and proper. He bad in
troduced this amendment in good faith. f Some
provision of the kind was desired by many who
wished to support the bill, and who" would not
support it witoout it. Cheerfully a ve should
support the bill with the amendment, he should,
with as little hesitation, vote? against it without it
or something like it. The amendment, in his
Opinion, was an important one. So large an ap
propristion should not be made without indicating
where and bow the arm wnr U be used. He
was unwilling to loave it to the Governor to do
with them as be pleased. He was equally un
willing to leave the question f their distribu
tion for legislation hereafter, when it could be set
tled at once so easily. Nw was the time to settle
the question. We h adbetter do now what can
better be done now than hereafter. Their dis
position hereafter might b th subject of a very
fierce controversy. In the excitement of the times
a disposition .night be attempted that would in
volve us in the revolution commenced in the States
south of us- He was not prepared to i0 into that
revolution ret; and if North Carolina did go into
it, be wanted her to d it in a regular way, and
not glide into it. He wanted arm, but he wanted
them for our own uso. It was not wise to be
entirely unprepared for events, but it was wise
in preparing for them to secure to j ourselves
he benefit of that preparation. In the very act
of preparation, let us endeavor to secure to our
selves the benefit, and not leave the matter to the
discretion of any man. or even to future legisla
tion. -.Future legislation upon this subject, in the
excitement and alarm of the times, might be im
prudent and precipiuite. We were now calm and
unexcited. The arms are designed for our own
use and benefit; let us say so now. He wanted
the arms in the hands of the volunteers ; and he
wished to encourage the formation of volunteer
companies. He wanted them fw-meu in every
county in the State. His amendment encouraged
their formation in every county in the State. The
amendment would make the bill pass almor.t
unanimously, and would' not delay iu passage a
day. And if, hereafter, the Military Committee
or the House saw proper to change the disposition
of the arms, it could be done. The adoption of
the amendment wi.l not prevent it. It only se
cures a certain disposition oi tbem, in the event
that there is no further legislation about it. The
people, whose mpney we are' proposing to spend,
would like to see, and had a 'right to see, in the
bill making the appropriation th 'disposition In
tended to be made of the arms. He preferred that
the volunteers should have them, and that the vol
unteer system should be encouraged, and; his
amendment contemplated that result. He could
see no' good objection to it.
Mr. Faison thought that there was no necessity
for the amendment ; the general law on lhe sub
ject in Revised Code was sufficient ' '
Mr. Person opposed theamendment, and thought
the present law in relation to the distribution of
arms was all that was necepsarv.
Mr. Crumple r said that there was a manifest
difference between the distribution of the arms to
be purchased under the provisions of this bill and
those to which the law at present in existence
provided for distribution. The arms referred to
in the Bevised Code was arms received from the
General Government The arms to be procured
by this bill wat State purchase, and, be thought.
were on somewhat a different footing. He thought
that the amendment would Lave a great tendency
to encourage the forming of volunteer companies,
and was, therefore, in favor of it. He did not io
tend to impugn the motives of the Governor or
any one else ; but if he adopted the rule first come
first served, in the distribution of these arms, it
might be that snrne counties would te entirely cut
out and leit without arm. . :
Mr. Merrimon said: Mr. Speaker, before I
east my vote upon the final passage of the bill,
now under consideration, I wUh to make one or
two remarks, and I may, by - the permission of
the House, as well do it now as at another time.
I appro vo of a proposition to arnTtbe State, up
on the broad principle th t the State at all times
ought to be in a condition to resist aggressions,
whether tney come irom abroad or rise up in
our midst This ought to be so in time of pro
found peace, and especially ought it to be so at a
time like the present,, when danger threatens us
upon every hand. It Is humiliating to pur State
pride, and to the authorities of the State, that the
procurement of necessary arms has been so long
neglected. This argues a want of proper regard
lor the defence or our people., their rights and
their property, and this neglect ought not to be
longer permuted. i s
cut while 1 am anxious to see the btato proper
Iv armed upon the principle just laid down ; yet,
I must be permuted to say that in my judgment
there are two or three objections to the bill in its
present shape, and although 1 expect to rote for
the bill in its 'present "shape if I cannot do better,
I wou'Aj with a view to the best Interest of the
State, greatly preier to see it amended in one or
tworespecta. ,1 repeat, I am the friepdofthe
measure, and when the other day there seemed to
be captions opposition to the passage of the bill,
I said nothing, for the reason that 1 knew every
proposition' to amend would be construed into
opposition to it.,' This is not the ease now, and I
beg that gentlemen will not act too hastily, and
ill not be governed by any captious spirit j
In the first place, I think the method by which
the bill proposes to raise the $300,000 is impolitic :
The bill propoMw to fell the coupon Bonds of the
State, payable in thirlv years. Now, what will
be the effect of this? Why, suppose the Bonds
are sold for eighty cents U'tha dollar, (and th s is
more than thev can be sold for.) tho HtAt wmilH
only realize for $300,00020,000 making a loss
of $60,000. TbLi is no trifling loss, but the loss, will
in all probability be greater than this.' .As soon
as this bill paosad the Senate a few d) s Ago, at
once, as a senfation movement, the fact was tele
graphed all wer the country, and the very next
day our Bond went down three pr cent ia New
lork. : 1 learn from experienced financiers and
capitalists, that in all probability the Bonds which j
this bill proposes will no: bring the usual price,
and this opinion i founded upon the fact that
capitalists will tot lnd money readily to procure
loh
but they Will .lend uimn the bst terms to tfl
frho expect to invest '.capital in such
will be productive of wealth and' power
seems to me to be a well founded opinjun-
nas mucn lore in it, and it is possi w,
even probable, that il the Bonds are thrown
the market as proposed, thev will not bring
than from fifty to sixty cent in the doll:
nee, 1 think this provision of the bill imp01
urely the Banks ef the State at this time,.
flora to , lend . this amount. Thev ought
willing to do so. But. if thnv" rflfused t
then the end would be better subserved by Is;
a direct tax to raise ; the money.
TheM
would save thousands, and tens of thousani
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J11.M .1.1. .1.. . T : j ... . nu
uuiiui 11 v iuu uumib I ihhuim . nm arm .
- ? , , ham
purchased upon better terms, and more of ttem
if a dollar counted as a dollar
But there is mother objection to "the Ml4'
wbrlo people of the State wil have to pay ,"
arms, and it is but fair and just that there sihould
be fair distribution of them among the sc'veral
counties, f If some provision of this sort i" not
made, then, the arms will be distributed ander
the preseat law.' The law as it now stand. prac
tically vests the whole power of distributing them
in the Governor of theState, as he may desta pro-
nar Ha ntav aunr.lv th nt1iWtii of volfunteer
onmnanica. and he vtan sunnlv tha authorities ot
1 . J --i r-v . . .
MoWDS, but he ia not compelled to lo so. F'
assurance have i that my people, or wopeM""
arms when purchased T None., I intend jio per-:
sonal reflection upon the Governor of th? State,
but I am opposed to giving him the full Jcontrol
of the arms. I want to know that the pfoplo of
every county in the State will get iu proper
share. This is right, just and fair. It m gbV be
said that my people are protected by the ""S1
mountains that surround their homes. H FroDa"
blywould be said, and that the arms b wild be
placed elsewhere at more exposed poin' I My
people are brsv and true; they will si ways be
ready to defend the people, and the soil d ' North
Carolina Irom aggression, como from wnajt Source
it may, and I might say this of every county Jn the
State, and this being true, each county paebt to
have its share of the arms when purchased, and
such provision ought to be made in this till. 1
The State ought to be armed upon the broad
principle laid down by . me in the oatset ; Of my
remarks. It ranches beyond any presect'panic or
a'arm. It is co-extensive With wise and safe gov
ernmanl iiself.. Let it not be said that the Senate
has passed the bill as it is, and it wilt delay to
to make amendments. If the proposed amend
menu are right, let this branch of the legislature
maintain its right and dignity and say so, and
send the Bill back tof the Senate for its concur
rence, .j - i : jj;).
Mr. Crumpler offered an amendment 'to the
amendment, which was accepted by Mr. Shober. :
Mr. Davis, of Rutherford, said 'hat he preferred
the amendment offerel by the gentleman from
Bertie, ( Mr. Henry,) but as that had beeri rejected,
he thought the amendment now oeforethe House,
offered by the gentleman from Guilford, sUould
pass. He was irt favor of arming the State, the
militia, the people they were the men we had to
rely on in an einergenoy, and he was for arming
them. He was ready and will.ng to "Vote for a
sum sufficient to put a muskt in the hands of
every militiaman in the State; hemeant thecoun
try people, that composed the militia. He had
confidence in them, very much more than he did
in the blue cockade boys about the tons. l
The charge has been made, that those who vote
against this bill are opposed to put iugarm ia the
hands of the people and the non-slveholder.
The records show; that the charge is false; for
nearly every member who voted against the bill
on its second reading, and who, I suppose, will
vote against it on th- third, voted for "i Wnugh's
amendment,'' which proposed to distribute the
arms to be purchased amng the people, without
reference to their being slaveholders or not
The gentleman from New Hanover (Sir. Per
son) said he was willing to vote for a bill to dis
tribute the arms properlv in a separate proposi
tion, and would pledge his co-operation for such a
bill- ; i
Mr. D., while he did not underrate the influ
ence of the gentleman, would remind him it re
quired more than one or two. votes to pass a bill,
and be (Mr. D.) thought it-tne-duty-of wise leg
islators to perfect their work before it passed from
under their hands. r J
Mr. Rogers stated the reasons which influenced
him to favor the amendment offered by the gen
tleman from Guilford (Mr. Shober). Ha was for
it for two reasons, one was. that it required bonds
to be given for the return of the arms to the prop
er officer, when not used for the purposes design
ed in their distribution ; that heretofore, the mat
ter had been so managed that a large number of
the arms belonging to tho State had been distrib
uted, were not now in use. and were scattered
about .throughout the State in a damaged: condi
tion, and were comparatively useless anj yet no
one was; new responsible ror mum, or, at least,
bad not! been held to a responsibility, ij He was
for the amendment because it would, in his opin
ion, encourage, the forming ot volunteer compan
ies throughout the state, lie did not know how
soon we might be forced into a war 'attitude
against fu wishes. He wanted to perfect the bill
as near as possible, while it was before the Fouse ;
and said be had an amendment that he should
like to have passed. That there was no reason
for such great haste ; it was not necessary to pass
this bill in one hour or two hours; That if our
bonds were taken at par that the manufacturers
would put .the discount upon the price of the
arms. That the Yankees were keen, and he did
not believe that the Governor could get the better
of them in any bargain be might make for these
arms. I . t ;
Mr. Person inquired of Mr. Rogers if he under
stood him to say that bonds had not heretofore been
required of parties getting out the arms. !
Mr, Rogers said he did not say that there was
no bonds required, but that there had never
been any good resulting from the mannel in which
.v I w.j v e 3 f .
vu law omu uwu euiorueu, bo iar as be II Bd ever
heard, j lie inquired or air. Person if he knew
whether bonds had been required. f '
Mr. Person replied that he wag authorized to
say that the present Governor had bonds! fori all
arms distributed by him, with a single exception,
and that the Csptain of the company which had
not given bond was a member of the House, and
j:
naa promised to uo so,
Mr, Rogers replied by stating that he Was glad
to learn that the Governor had done better than
h predecessors in this respect ' f j.
The question was then taken on Mr. Shober's
amendment and was negatived ayes 41 ,'noes 57.
Mr. Ferebee offered an amendment to prevent
the arms purchased under the provisions Of the bill
being taken out -of the St ato. . j - ( . 1
Mr. Ferebee said that he did not believe that
our people were going to be precipitated! nto the
Southern movement as it at present existed, i He
was for arming the State, if there was a necessity
for it, aad he wanted .he arms properly distribu
ted among the people of the State. He could not
see the argent necessity for arming the State that
existed in the minds of some. It was tine that
there bad been rumors of an intended insurrection,
but the investigation had shown it to be 'without
foundation. '. i 1 ! '
Mr. F. spoke at some length in defe ice of his
amendment, and concluded by calling the ayes
and noes. ' . ' -, ' :(: ,1 1 -.- ,,'.
Mr. Meares opposed the amendment. 1 He was
unwilling to say that thee arms should not be car
ried out .of theState, if thve was a necessity to
defend our brethren in resisting encroachments
upon tneir rights rights as dear to us as to them.
Such was not the course pursued by oir forefath
ers in the day of the Revolution. He had no
doubt but that, if necessity required, they would
rush to our assistance. . . : :!. .
The question was th taken upon Mr. Fere-
bee's amendment and it was lost by aye 23,
noes 70.! - '"":'.
The ayes and noe were demanded bir Mr. Fer-
eoee. ! - . , . .. - - -
Mr. Guthrie proposed an amen nlent requiring
a direct tax to be leviM to rai the amount ne
cessary tinder the hill. : '. ff -t- ;
sir. (iuthrie supporUd Ibis amendment in a
speech of some length. : He was opposed to buy
ing arms for war purposes on a credit. He could
build Railroads by the sale of bonds, but When he
shouldered his rifle for war purposes, he preferred
mat it snouid oe paid lor in cash, and he thought
the people would prefer it. He did hot think the
people of old Orange wanted to go to war in debt
for the arms they would nave to use. ; Ha was not
too bid to shoulder his muskl when necearv. and
ho expected. to do it when it was necessary j1 He
thought that those that were so anxious to iret into
a fight ought to have pluck enough to face there- !
; v : : . r ., . ..
BpuuMuiiiiY oi raising ine can to pay tne expen
instruments of dean and destruction, and b
lends to the destruction, of and espi
; sea. He was prepared to do iu - He did not be- :
lieve in .'fighting on: a credit. : . . v4; '
. j. The question was put on the amendment, aud i
jl was lost. r::;:':f . v.-'i-.-r '-,vi-i :
, f The qu tion was then put on the passage of the
. bill, te ayes and noes having been called for by
i Mr. Martin, and tbo bill passed "p;"
Oa motion of Mr." Hill, the use of the ball of
"( the House of Commons was granted to Mr.! Lil
1 ly to exhibit some invention conuected with-en-
gineering. .; ,;.
P On motion of Mr. Williams, of Nash, the House
adjourned.
. j .K ; , . SENATE. ... ' ' ;
k ; -j . Y Wkdsisdat, Jan. 9, 1861.
The Speaker called the Senate to order at 10 J
o'clock., ' i.'-u . ' .
i Prayer by Rev. Mr. Skinner. ; !j
Journal of yesterday read, amended and ap-i
proved. ' - . ; j- ' ' " v .j
i . Mi1. Street presented a seriesof resolutions passed
at a public meeting in the county of Craven. Bead
and laid on the table. i . rl
-Mr. Waugb, a aeries of resolutions from a mass j
meeuiig in xorsytn county, expressing strong
Union sentiments, and regarding the election of
ijincoin as no just cause for ; a dissolution of tho
U nion. I be resolutions also recommend the arm
ing of the State against any emergency that may
arise, oppose a call of a Convention of the people
of this State, and recommend tho passage of ah
act to tax all goods coming from the North, -f:'
Mr. Waugh expressed himself as being in favor
of the sentiments expressed in the resolutions.
The resolutions were read and laid on the table, j
: Mr. Wioetead, a series of resolutions from a
public meeting in Person' county. Read and laid
on the table. : : -j
Mr. Worth, resolutions from a public mooting
in Randolph county. These resolutions oppose a
eall or a btate convention ; favor a Rational Con
'vention, the establishing of a Confedeyacy of the
Middle States rejecting the two extremes. Read
and laid on the table.
Mr. Avery, resolutions from a public meeting
r . ,, - . . ,t
in waiaweu county, recommending a. cait or a
State Convention. Bead and laid on the table.;
! A message was announced from the House of
Commons. . ' . I '
Mr. Taylor, of Nash, resolutions from a public
meeting In the ounty of Nash, recommending
resistance to the inauguration ot Lincoln, and a
thorough organization of the militia. Bead and
ordered to lie on the table. ; 1 ;
Mr. Turner, Union resolutions from a public
meeting in Orange county,. recommending an ap!
propriation lor arming the tat. Read and laid
on the table. j -
Mr. Turner spoke at some length upon the pre-;
sentation of the resolutions, and paid glowing
tributes to the patriotism of the people of Orange
-the ancestors of that people from whom these
resolutions emanated. He referred to the history:
of the Revolution, and the action of the Regula
tors of Orange. He referred to the time when
fbrc frpm the Cape Fear region went up to Or
ange to whip the Regulators into submission to
the British government and argued that the se-j
ceders of the present day w.-re as far ahead of the
times as the Regulatots were said to have been in
their day. -r---'-,' '-'!--
Mr. Hall replied to the remarks of Mr. Turner,
in legard to the marching of forces from Cape
Fear country to whip the Regulators, &c., and
continued his remarks to some length. ) :,
Mr. Turner rejoined. f. !
Mr. Bamsay presented a series of resolutions
from a public meeting in Rowan county, reeorn-j
mending a call of a State Convention, opposing
tne submission to the administration of Lincoln."
.Bead and laid on the table.
i j The hour of 12 o'clock having arrived, the spe
rm! order was announced,' viz: The bill offered
by the Committee on Federal! Relations to call' a
Convention of the people of the State. j
. Mr. Bamsay moved to postpone the special or-f
der for fifteen minutes, so that h might present
some other resolutions from public meetings in
Bowan eounty. Agreed to. i.
Mr. Bamsay then presented resolutions passed
at public meetings held at Salisbury and Rowan
Mill which, being read, were laid On the table;
i The Senate then went into a Committee of the
Whole for the consideration of the bill proposed
by the Committee Mr Speight in the Chair. :
1 Mr. Avery offered a substitute to the bill to
strike out the fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth sec
tions thereof . ' I f
: The fifth section prescribes an oath for the mem
bers of the Convention to take and subscribe to ;
the sixth restricts the duties of the Convention
the seventh requires that the notion of the Con
vention, shall be suninitwd to the people for their
ratification, and tho -ihth r.-quires that the ordi
nances oi the Convention fliall be advertised for
at least thirty days in the newspapers of this State
before the people shall bn culled upon to vote on
the same. ' j.'' '
' Mr. Turner rose to give ' otice that, on the sec
ond reading of the u'wi'ute for the original bill,
he would offer an atnendment to the preamble,
which should recite the neoaesity of subjecting that
portion or our slave property to taxation which
has hitherto paid nothing, to relieve the naked
Condition of the public Treasury. Ho was1 glad
to see something offered for the original bill.
The original bill was such as no despot, ruler or
representative should dare offer to a tree people.
The old fiapoifon standing uemnd ma cannon
might have offered such a bill to the French peo
pie. The present Napoleon dare not do lt'J The
original bill proposecr to circumscribe and limit
sovereignty : proposed that we should tell the peo
ple what they should do and what they should not
do. ; The original bill proposes that a majority of
this Legislature should call the Convention. The
only argumentoffered for this new ' interpretation
of the Constitution is that Judge Buffin said " it
could be done.'" , When so able a jurist' as Judge
Buffin gives considered opinion upon a question of
constitutional construction, It passes for an argu
ment; lhat argument is tuny met by saying
Judge Aiaston says it cannot be done. Ibis was
not said in disparagement of our greatest: living
Judge. If he should go further, and say that the
genius of Gaston, which was now shining in that
other; and better world, did while shining 'among
us, " ray rorthj torrents" or light, not only upon;
the Constitution, but upon the mind of Judge Buf
fin itself, it would be but a slight tribute, in" which
none would more heartily join than Judge Buf4
fin i for no man has mre admiration for the ge
nius, or veneration for the virtues, of Judge Gas
ton than hag Judge Ruffia. Let us read theCori?
stitution, and each one determine for himself f
" No Convention of the rxnple shall be called by
the General Assembly uulta by the concurrence
of two-thirds of all the members of each house of
the General Assembly." Such is the plain, ex
press and unequivocal language of the CJonstitu
tion; who can so misunderstand its plain lan
guage, or pervert its plain meaning, as to say any
number short or two-thirds ean call a Conven
tion?. : L.. . -...1 ... ' ' :h
Mn Brown Spoke at some length in opposition
to the amendment.
Mr. Avery replied.
Mr. Brown rejoined.
Mr. Erwin spoke at length in favor of the sub
stitute, and replied to M r. Brown.
' Mr. Barringer obtained the floor, and proceed'
ed to. address the Senate, but gave way. when ' i
Mr4 Avery moved that .the Committee rise, re
port progress and ass leave to sit again to-morrow
. Mr. Burton moved to
o'clock. Adopted. ;
Mrf Avery's motion
agreed to. "
insert
i - . i
11 instead of 1?
- f.
as amended was then
Ine (Jommittee then
arose, and Mr. Speight,
from the Committee, reported progress and asked
leaveiof the Senate to sit again on to-morrow at
II o'clock. Granted. " i 1
Mr. Bledsoe introduced a bill providing for the
appropriatio n of $700,000 for arms for the protec
tion of the honor and rights of the people of the
State. Read first time, passed and, V I
On motion of Mr. Burton, referred to the Com
mittee on Federal Relations, ami ordered to be
printed. i i. .;:.r .:, :i
On motion of Mr. Sharpe, the substitute offered
by Mr. Avery this morning was ordered to be
printed. :. . 1 " r : . U ; .r !
Onj motion of Mr. Walker, the Senate ad
journed. ... j, ..
; HOUSE OF COMMONS,
It. ; i Wkdnksdat, Jan. '"Vth,; 1861.
The House met at half past 10 o'clock, 1 ' . 1
Prayer by Rev. Tho. E. Skinner. ; ; .
. The Jdurnal of yesterday was read.
'-k. message was received from the Senatnpro
posing to raise a joint committee ot five, two from
tha Senate and three from the House to take into
consideration the reports,statements,voucherg, Ac.,
of the commissioners of the A. - and N- C. Bail
Road, and report, what part of the same should be
Sinted. The , message; was concurred mr and
easra Clarke, of Craven, Wooten and Menden
hall,' were announced as the House branch of the
committee. .' " . . .- ''.'-." ' ;'v
v Mr. Clark,' of CravOnj,' presented the proceed
ings of a meeting, held in the county -of Craven. .
Mr. Clark said that he desented -from, the spirit
that pervaded the resolutions as well as most of
the phraseology. He did not hesitate to say upon
his responsibility as one of the representatives of
the people of Craven county, that be did not be
4ieve that the resolutions expressed the sentiments
of any considerable portion of the people of that
county.
Mr. "Whitehurst breeented the proceedings of a
Union meeting, held in Carteret county.
j' Mr. Lile presented the proceedings of a Union
'meeting held in the .county of Anson. -
i M. Perkins presented the proceedings, of a
Union meeting, held in the county of Pitt. .
i Mr. Ewetl presented the proceedings of a meet
ing held in tha jounty of Martin, in relation lo
Federal Affairs. ... P f
. Mr. Hall presented the proceedings of a Union
meeting held in the county of Rowan. . .
Mr. Hall sid that the resolutions did not ex
press the sentiment of bis county! These passing
these resolutions' were but a "corporal's guard."
He said that bis county was for a convention, by
at least five hundred majority. , : ; :
Mr. Winslow; presented the proceedings of a
'Union meeting held in the county of Randolph.
Mr. Wiuslow.said it might be supposed that as
Randolph was so strong a Whig county, that
these resolutions were as a matter of course. He
said that there were lour hundred 'good and true
democrats in his county, as he had occasion to
know, as he .ad met them in political combat;
they were at, 1 pis meeting, a democrat!preided,
and they were for the Union. These resolutions
were passed by the bone and sinew of his count ;
they were the men that werit to their dinner -by
blowing of the horn, from their fields" And work
shops. . v' , ' -.' -'',
Mr. Blue presented th6 proceedings of a meet
ing to consider Federal Matters, in the county of
Richmond. . - . -
, Mr. Polk presented the proceedings of a public
, i i . i . r tit-J l u -
meeting neia in me town oi aueauorougu. , v i-
Mr. Wright presented a memorial from Henry
E. Colton relative to arming the Stateproposing
to show howj all pecessary arms can be manufac
tured in the State. Referred to committee on
Military Affairs, and ordered to be-printed.
Mr. Batchelor,. from the copamittee on the Ju
diciary, reported back a bill to prevent the trans
fer of any expectancy from the estate of a parent
with a substitute for the bill, recommending its
passage. : ' ' , v. L . ' .
Mr.Person. from, the same committee, reported
back a bill to increase the pay of the, Judges of
the Supreme and Superior Courts, recommend
ing that it do not pass . Also, a bill" to regulate
criminal prosecutions in Courts, County and Supe
rior, recommending that it do not pass. Also
a bill to place on equal footing creditors of intes
tates, ' recommending it do not pass. Also, a
bill to amend an act, relating lo the county
Courts of Randolph, asking to be discharged from
its further consideration, and recommending- that
it do not pass. ; - 1 '
Mr. Simontoni from the committee on MiliU
ry Affairs, reported back a bill, to amend an act
incorporating the Iredell Blues, with an amend
ment, recommending its passage. .
Mr.Ferebee, from the committee on Education,
reported back a bill. r '
A bill to incorporate the Richland Institute in
Haywood county, recommending its 'passage
with an amendment j
Mr. Jenkins, from the same committee, report
ed back a bill to reduce the salary of the Superin
tendent of Common Schools, recommending that
it do not pass. ' -!:; .
Mr. "Waugb, from the committee on corpora
tions, reported back a bill to incorporate the Gib
son Hill Mining Co., with amendments, recom
mending it4 passage. ' j
Also a bill y charter the St. Catherine's Mills,
and Charlotte Rail. Boad Company, recommend
ing its passage. :'' - " '
Mr. Horton, from, the committee on Cherokee
Lands and i Western Turnpikes, reported back a
bill, giving the management ot the VV extern
Turnpike roads to certain County Court, wi'.h
amendments, recommending its passage.
- - RISOLUTIONS.
By Mr. Mendenhall, a resolution recommending
'J. M. Lilly's instrument for surveying,
By Mr. Stokes, a resolution in favour of J. H.
Lorance, Sheriff or ljincoln county.
- Mr: Wright gave notice that he should move
to-mo-row, to take up House but No. 73.
Mr. HilL moved that , all the Bank statements
that had been or might be seat in to this House,
should be printed. Concurred in.
A message was received from the Senate, trans'
mitting an engrossed bill passed by that body, to
incorporate the. Salem and l nomas vine Turn
pike Company, asking the concurrence of the
House. .' I '
The Speaker announced thai the hour had ar
rived for .the consideration of the special order,
being the 'bill reported by the majority of the
committee on Federal Relations to call a conven
tion. The bill was read, and on . motion of Mr.
Hill, tho House resolved itself into a committee of
the whole for the consideration or the subject,
r The Speaker called Mr. Hill to the Chair.
The bill was again read, and also the minority
report, ana resolutions. ; . ; . '
lMr".. Person took the floor and after some mo
fifenU offered a substitute for the bill, and con
tinued the discussion", at some length. After
which, Mr. Davis, of Rutherford, took the floor;
and replied to a portion ot Jttr. Jf's remarks, do
ring which he asked Mr. P. ;if he thought that
the people of a State had a right to take possession
of the Forts belonging to the general government,
within their borders, betore such state bad sece
ded. . 'v 4
; Mr. Person replied that they did hot have the
coastitutional right to do so. - ,
Mr. Davis then asked the gentleman, Mr. P., if
in case they should take one pr more forts in this
way, if be thought they snould continue to hold
them against the wishes or the general govern
ment. bv force of arms. . ! t,'
i Mr. Person replied, by stating what would be
his individual action, . provided his constituents
were to take such a step, and needed his aid that
they should have it at the sacrifice of his life.
Mr. Davis then asked the gentleman if in such.
a case, he and his constituents would not be guilty
of treason.. : ' i " v 1
Mr. Person said he would reply after the, gen
tleman from Rutherford concluded. r v
Mr. Davis continued his remarks. When he had
finished, i. "':,'- : :
Mr. Person said he would answer the interroga
tory of the gentlemen, by saying that if the gen
eral government were about to arm a Fort for
the purpose of coercing the people of a State into
submission to unjust measures, that the circum
stances would justify them in, possessing them
selves of Land holding the Forts under the law of
self preservation, in the absence lof a constitutional
right.-.'- .! :- : j v. ' Jt.,.-,
. Mr. Crumpler took the floor, but gave way to,
Mr. Folk, who moved that the committee rise.
report progress and ask leave to sit again to-morrow
at 12 o'clock. . Carried. i 4 " ':- J ;
The Speaker resumed the chain . ,
Mr Hill reported the progress of the committee
&o., which was concurred in. j; , ".- ' ' ' "
Mr.Davts, of Rutherford, moved that the sub
stitute offered by Mr. Person for the convention
bill of the committee be printed. Carried. r
on motion ot Mr. Bullock, the House adjourn- I
SENATE. ...'
Thtjrsdat, Jan.'lO, I860..
The Speaker called the Senate to order at 10
o'clock and 20 minutes. ' ' , - ..
Prayer by the Rev. J, W. Tucker.
Journal of yesterday read and approved,
Mr. Humphrey, Irom the Committee On Cor
porations, reported back the bill to extend the
corporate limits of the town fof StateaviUe rec
ommending it passage. Said bill placed on tho
Calendar. : - - i'.' '-i ' ' '
Mr. Lane, from the Committeemen Propositions
and Grfeva.ices, reported back the following bill
and resolutions, recommending their passage :
v resolution in lavor oi .Jasper I'rltchet -An
engrossed resolution in favor of Josenh H.
Gooch, late Sheriff of Granville county, and Es
ley Btaly.late Sheriff nf "Wilkes county, with an
amendment ' V, . '
A bill to authorize E'. D. Hall, late Sheriff Of
New Hanover county, to collect arrears of taxes.
with an amendment." t ' , -. v v.?f .'" --Ai
An engrofsed -resolution in favor of D.C. Lilly;
A bill for the relief of Davidson, College. ; ';
" 'And a bill to authorize Washington Uarrnv
late Sheriff of Franklin county, to collect arrears
of taxes, with au amendment. : f
; Said bills , Were p'aceJ on tire Calendar.
Mr. Bledsoi, from .he Committee on Ctsiui,rr.
ported back the bill to authorise Jame D. 11,.
tick, late Sheriff of Biehmond. county, to collect
arrears of tax, recommending its passago'. .
" Mr. Walker, from the Committee on- Educa-'
tion and th Literary Fund, the bill to incorpt.
rate the State Educational Association, i recom
mending its passage Plaoed-oji the Calendar.
Mr. Brown, from the Committee on Federal
Relations, reported back' Sonata, resolution No.
16, recommending a sufMi'ute for the Hnie
KBead and laid on the ta1
ja.T. vaiusnv presvntea m erie oi resoiutioim
, . i . . . f . . , ..
passed at a public meeting in Davie countv, rv
ommending she call of a State Convention.
Bead and laid on the table. V . , !
, Mr. ..Walker introduced a hill relative to tux.
Ing dogs, .Read first time, pned aud. inferred to
the Committee on PropositioKS and Grievances.
' Mr. Dowd, a bill for th M ter regulation ofthe
town of Carthage, "Moore coii'ity. PasSol iu hi
reading- and refemd to lh- t'-mmittee ori ('orxi.
rations.- ' 'r- -"..yf.j'.:.
' Mr. Whedbes a bill t i ;. 'porate the Inde
pendent Grays,. In the tow . t" Elizabeth City,
Passed its first reading, aodV- rred to ihe fom--mittee
brt Military Affair,.; ..."''.V-'-. j'
Mr. Walker asked to wUh'' iw Els bill jut re,
ferred ! to the Committee -n Propositions and
Grievances, from that Committee, and refer it to
theConmittee on Agriculturo; : Agreed to.
Mr.. Blount introduced , a bill to permit John
Conner, of Pitt county, to become a slave for life.
Passed its first reading, and referred to tlu? Com.
mittee on Propositions and Uri-vances.
Mr. Walkup presented a memorial from citi
zens of Union county, relative to the incorpo
ration of the town, of Moii , in said count v. T
Referred to the Committee uu Corporstions"
. Mr. Arendell, a bill to incorporate i Old Toj
sail Riflemen, in the town of Beaufort. Read
first time, passed and referred to tho Committee
on Military Affairs.
, The hour of -1 1 i o'clock haying arrived, the
Speaker announced the special order, viz: The
bill to all a Convention of this State.!
The Sen are then- resolved itpelf into a Commit
tee of the vY hole fore consideration ; of said
bill, (Mr. Speight in the chair.) The question '
recurring on the substitute offered by Mr. Avery,
M.-. Barringer being, entitled to the floor arose
and resumed his remarks in support of the sub
stitute,' ; He said that when hi yiolded the floor
on yesterday in order for the committee, to ruo,
he was endeavoring to show, that in the matter of
.transit or sojourn with their property, slavehold
ers had more reason- to expect justice, under the
comrtv of nations, from France or Prussia than
from New York or Mas-acbusetts, He thought
he had demonstrated that proposition... It could
be done inoontestibly. - He bad intended, then,
to goon through the whole line of grievances, and
to show that with rare exceptions, no' con tract vi
obligation, whether under the constitution or tbe
law of nature bottomed on 'slavery, could bo en
forced or respected in th'i Northern StUw, either
by the legislatures at their peoplo. Kvcu their
courts bad 3'ielded to tha popular clamor of hos
tility t slavery, aiid the Supreme Court of New.
York had only Iat yjr decided (Lemmou v. thu
People) in open contempt of its constitutional ol-
ligations and or the comity- of nations. ! But he
preferred rather to act than to talk. Ha had, .
therefore, determined to forego any speech at this
time on the general subject of our wrongs. He ,.
wou'd postpone this high debate .from th- Senate
to the supreme tribunal of tbe people. He would
like to come to a vote or tbe bill before the com
mittee as soon as possible. He hoped we might
reach it at once. He would, however,, as he was.
up, express himself1 on the immediate subject be
fore the committee (the calling of a convention.)
He was for it, and, had been for it all the time.
He would like to have seen such a bill pawed
unanimously on the first day of the session with
out debate. Mr. B. said that he would not view
a bill, looking to a great public measure,' as he
would a boy's composition. He was ror a con
vention, an opeq convention and unrestricted, if
be could get it but for a convention anyhow on
Federal Relations. He preferred the substitute
of the Senator from Burke, (Mr. a. very.) ; Hu
did nqt think tbe clauses in tne original bill, sub- .
mitting the ordinance cf the convention to the
people for ratification, prescribing to tbe members
an oath, had any validity, lie would take no'such
oath, were he a member of the convention. He ,
bad no doubt, however, that the convention would
propose.their action lo the popular vote for rati
fication, and would prescribe an oath to its mem
bers for the faithful discharge of their duty.1 Hut
this should proceed from iu own motion, and not .
from the dictation of the creature, lie would
offer now one or to considerations in favor of a
convention on Federal Affairs. The groat diffi- '
culty .'was, or seemed to be, for Senators to com
prehend the full extent of our perils. Ha was
inclined to think, at the beginning of '.he session,
that it was a small matter-the cracking of a few
thorns in the fire. But all must realize, that it ia
the roaring of a great furnace seven times hotter
than ever, and growing hotter every day. .
"Who ia to deliver, us? The only path of deliv
erance to his snind was through a convention of
the people. Whether that path led us ultimately '
to a reconstruction of the Union, or to a more
congenial political -convention with our brethren
of tbe South, he doubted not it would be the path .
of safety, interest and honor. A i convention
would give u in' .combination, the highest wis
dom, the purest disinterested public virtue ; a ver
dict freshest from the people. He did not believe
we could agree upon any terms of adjustment .
Our views seemed to be irreconcilably variant-r-Soma
are for going out peaceably, some are for '
fighting out of it, some are for fighting in it '
And then there are others, tbe extremest of all,
who favor not one dissolution, but three or four.
For his part, if disunion must come, he was for a
single separation between the two sections, based
upon their respective and distinguishable organ
ization of labor.. 'At any rate, whatever we may
be for or against we differ widely, we diflVr rad
ically.: A convention will unite us. We are
all the children of North Carolina, and we owe
her publio will a child's obedience. We will ren
der itf Let us then have a convention of the peo
ple, called in some form." And let North Caroli
na, in run sovereignty, "with all her bravery and
tackle, trim" hold a ' position comporting with her
character and her past history.'
MrJ B. said he wsuld decline further at this
time to discuss the matter before the committee.
MrJ Thomas, of Jackson followed Mr. Barrin
ger, in a speech of two hours. He di emed a con- ,
vention necessary to decide what tbe Slate of N.
Carolina should do; whether to unite with tbo
Southern or Northern portion oi tbe confederacy.
lie said that .North Carolina was now the border
State, and if she continued to watch, wait and sub
mit to Mr. Lincoln, her citizens would very
Erobably, soon after this usurper came Into office,
ave to take up arms and cross the line intoSouth :
Carolina and Georgia, and aid, under the Black
Republican and disunion nag, to coerce toe South
ern peoplo to submit to the rule , of the abolition
disunionists. - i
He asked would tho
peupi or .North Carolina
the descendants of the Whigs of 7 do this would
they occupy the position in favor of .submission,
to Black Republican rule? ' He presumed they
would not If the convention so docided ' be
would' consider the State disgraced and would
himself submit or lf-ave the State. r I' '
He contended that the American people peine
ia the majority of nearly, a milium,' had no right
to submit to ilr. , Lincoln as President of. the '
United States. t " :' -H i
The discussion was continued by Messrs. Ram
say and Erwin. ., ,-." ,
k- Mr Erwin arogo 'to a ; personal explanation
vindicating himself against ar. editorial which
appeared in the Standard of yesterday charging
him with being in favor of a Convention to teake
changes in the Constitution, with referenceltoad
valorem! and freo perfons of color. ! . .
. . Mr, Avery arso to a similar explanation, '
Mr, Turner moved that tho Committee rise,
report progress, land ask leave to sit again on to
morrow at 12 o'clock. . i 1
Mri Taylor, of Brunswick, moved lb amend
by inserting 11 instead of 12 o'clock. Agreed to.
Mri Turner's motion, as amended, was then
agreed toi-' ?)' ;' -t v rl; r
- Mr. Speight, from the Committee ofthe Whole,
reported progress, and asked leave ofthe Senate
to sit Agaiu oh to-morrow at 11 o'clock. Granted.-'
V kMr. Jlall introduced a bill to repeal so much
of sec. 2d of Art. 4th of the amended Constifu
tion of North Carolina 'a prohibits persons of
the Jewish or Israelitish faith from holding l
. ' Continued on First rage.
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