THOMAS LORING, AND PROPRIETOR EDITOR TEUUIS : i THE NORTH CAROLINA STANDARD lHu . i .77 .. nor annum i3 published weekly , 7 subscriber fail payable year y mad ance. at iw to give none of h j "e'on. dered as having subscribed anew, u8 il orS to be stopped; but no paper will be discontinued, until all arrearages are paid. Advertisements, not exceeding fourteen lines, tfill b - inserted one iimc for one dottar, and, twenty fire cents for each subsequent insertion ; those of neater length in proportion. If. the number of in sertions be not marked on them, they will be con tinued until'ordered out. Court Uterlisements and Sheriff's Sales, will b2 charged twenty-five per cent, higher than the usual rates. A deduction of 33 J per cent, will be made to .i.-.. advertise bv the year. -- . Letters to the Editor must come, free oj oostaze, or they may not be attended to. WTHE PEOPLE OF THE STATE. OF NORTH CAROLIJN A. . tt,. o.lrocspfi some time since, a printed cir .l:,rti certain of our constituents, who had made inquiries of us, as to the proofs of charges that k,on mrfrt nfr:iinst General Harkison, m u,;n t n law of Indiana, and a law of Ohio, subjecting white citizens to sale for the non-pay ment of fines and costs of prosecution. . We con AaroA ihnt our fellow-citizens had a right to mike these inquiries, and th.it it was our duty to ..en.r ihpm. As the- letters we naa receiveu iiuow j upon this subject were very numerous, we de iprmined to sive a general answer to them all onH as we meant to sav nothing but the truth, nnA unlike some other Dolkicians, hid no obrec flm'that anv thinrr we said or wrote should be published, we issued a short reply to the inqui ries thus made of us in a. printed circular, under the responsibility of our names. This appears to have -given great offence to some of our colleagues. Messrs. Stanly, Wil liams, Deberrt, and Rayner, have addressed you in a -publication in yesterday's Intelligencer, in which we are denounced us "having descend ed from high stations to make unfounded charges and misrepresentations!" and these gentlemen are "mortified beyond measure" that this should have been done by members who come from N. Carolina. We cannot say that we are either jsorry. or surprised at the course of our colleagues. We Iniht, to be sure, haw expected a very different course from these gentlemen as our coiiepes, and so very sensitive for the honor of our St ite. we had really, misstated any fact, or had, m relation to those laws, misunderstood them and misrepresented their true meaning, why did not these o-. ntlemen, instead of undergoing the mor tification of publicly denouncing us. call, on us, and at least endeivor to show us our mistakes, a id desire us to correct ihem ? We appeal wr.h confidence lo such of you as knowis, whether you do not believe that, if any errors ot misrep resentations' had been thus pointed out to us, we would not readily have corrected them, and pub licly repaired any wrong we. had done? These gentlemen knew well we would have done so: and they did not thus call on us, be cause they did not believe they could show ns anrunfounded fact or misrepresentation. If they had called upon us, although they are some of ihem lawyers, and we but p'ain citizens, we think, uprni the subject of these laws and other matters in their address, wc could have enlight ened them so far as to have saved them from the mortification they must feel from the expos ure we are about to make of them. -We undertake to place them in this position as charin"- us with misrepresentation, haviog no other way of making it out but by being guilty of the grossest misrepresentations themselves. Now to the proof and we begin with the Indi- law and we aver that we nave siaieu ru terms and ana in , its meaning correctly, and that these rt-ont fmpn nave lOiailV nnsre Mcsruwru (!: Now a3 we have, published this law, so have they They do not pretend that we have not given it fairly, fully, and correctly. Here it is a5ain, as we both Agree read it for yourselves : Extract from the Laws of the Indiana Territory, printed at Vincennes. by Messrs. Stout & Smoot, in 1807, and now in the Library of the State Ue- partment, Washington city. CHAPTER VI. An Act respecting Crimes and Punishments. Sec. 3a When any person or persons shall, oh con viction of any crime or breach of any penal law, be sentenced to pay a fine or fines, with or without the costs of prosecution, it shall and may be lawful for the Court before whom such conviction shall be had to order the sheriff to sell or hire the person or persons so convicted to service to any person or persons who will pay the said fine and costs, Jor such term of lime as the said Court shall judge reasonable. - . , And if such porson or persons, so sentenced and hired, or sold, shall abscond from the service of his r u, ootQ, nr mUtrP before the terra of such servitude shall be expired, he or she so absconding choii :,;,, hefnu. a instice of the peace, Juan, uii timi i-n"" j . j U II be whinnpH with thirtv-riine stripes, and shall, fnrn Aava for P VPTV One SO lOSt. Sec. 31. The judges of the several Courts of re cord in this Territory shall give this act m charge to the grand jury at each and every court in which a grand jury shall be sworn. ' JESSE B. THOMAS, Speaker of the House of Representatives. B. CHAMBERS, President of the Council Approved, September 17. 1807. ' WILLIAM HENRY WILLIAM HENRY HARRISON. The. difference between us, then, is as to the mnin? and effect of this law." We saitfit was a law "to sell white men and white women for sheriffs' fees, clerks' fees, and lawyers' foes, and fines imposed by Courts." This ojr accusers deny this they say is a misrepresentation ; and thus they make it out. iney ay "'.Ve submit whether the statement does not bear its own refutation on its faze. The act related to ' crimes and punishments.' It applied only to those who were sentenced, on conviction of any en ne or breach of any penal law, to pay a fine or fines, With rr nr i ill nut the Pfi5t5 nf nroseculton. I he reading of the law exposes the groundless charge because it sav ' with or without the costs of pros ecution.' Messrs. M. and H. would have you be lieve that, in enacting this law, the clerks', lawyers , and sheriftV fees were alone consulted. It was in tended as a ounishment for crimes, such a3 horse stealing. ho stealinsr. burslary, arson, &c, which are expressly mentioned in'the law, when the crim inals were,' on conviction,' sentenced to pay a fane, 'with or without the costs ot prosecution. " We have here a lawyer's quibble about the i . . . i ... . . . t ., woras "iv un or wunout toe costs oi prosecution. How-do these words show our charge to be groundless? We say they mean that when the Court sentences the -person to pay a rine only, "without the costs of prosecution," then he is to pay the fine only, and when the sentence is to pay a fine "with the costs of prosecution," then he must pay the tine and costs, and the costs are sheriffs' fees, clerks' fees, and lawyers' fees, and the man unable to pay; is to be sold to pay the fine and these fees. This we say is the law: and our accusers (lawyers too) are either so blinded oy passion ana prejudice, or oeneve uiai you are blind and ignorant enough to take any version of it they may give you. that they deny this "plain meaning of these words, and seem to understand them as a part of the sentence of the Court-that the Court sentences the man to pay "a fine with or without the costs of prosecution." That is, the man is to pay the fine, "with or without the costs," as he pleases so that he is never com Del led. bv the sentence under this law, to pay'the costs, unless he chooses to do so; on ly the fine, wishout the costs. Ana tnus mey make out our misrepresentation in saying thafa man" could be sold under this law for 'costs, -or clerks', sheriffs', and lawyers' fees. Let any rrian of common sense say whether the absurd and ridiculous meaning they give to these, words can be the meaning of the law. Did not the law mean that the person convicted was to be sentenced to pay a fine, with the costs.; that is, the costs also, if the Court thought fit to so sentence him? Did it mean that he was to pav the "fine only, and never pay the cost$; hav ing this option of paying the fine with the costs, orwithout the costs, as he pleased? " 1 so, why did the law. say any thing about costs and why say, in ihe. subsequent part of the section, that the sheriff is to sell or hire, &c, "to pay the said fine and costs" ? It is plain, then, the man could be sold for the costs, and we are right, and our accusers are wrong ; and they, ought, to be mor tified beyond measure," that members from" N. Carolina, even if they were not lawyers, should make such a misrepresentation. But their mor tification ought to be far deeper for a far greater misrepresentation oh this subject. They say of this act, "it was intended as a punishment for crimes, such as horse stealing, hog stealing, bur glary, arson, &c." . Now, here is a most unfair intimation that the vv hite persons, men and women, subject to the punishment of this act, were such as were con victed of the crimes they have enumerated, or such crimes. To "be sure there is &c. but that, it was thought, you would not notice or under stand, and would therefore think that it was for infamous crimes like those they mention, that persons were to be sold under this act, and not (as the law says) "for any crime or breach of any jenal law." Arain. thev sav "it was intended as a pun- . i . . i : ...U n knirn clufi inrr hn(T isnmem ior crimes, oju aa wviat, .,.. ..g, -- stealing', burglary, arson. &c." It was intend ed for no such thing: for this-very same law punishes, all these offences they have specified with severer punishments than fine and costs, some of. them with death. And indeedwho ever heard of a law punishing such crimes mere ly by fines and costs? Here then is a pretty plain misrepresentation. They say this Iiw "was intended as a punishment -for crimes such as horse stealing, hog stealing, burglary, arson, &c. which are expressly mentioned in. the law ; And these crimes are expressly mentioned in the law, not a3 punishable by a sentence for fine and costs only, but by whipping, imprisonment, pil lory; and death ; so that this law did not apply to these crimes. And in this same law, assaults and batteries, riots and other offences are men tioned, and made punishable by fines ana costs only: so that for these the law was intended ; these lesser misovmeanors or uicawics ui penal law, as are not attended with any nior-i turpitude. Did not these gentlemen see mat mis aw applied distinctly ana cieany iu auy vnuic, any penal law i uiu iney ui saults and batteries, and other misdemeanors we u-to muniinnixl wpfR with i ri its operation u thev did, why, when they mentioned horse ana uav Hiviiiw.-i , hog stealing, burglary ana arson, uiu- mey nui goon to assault and battery and" riots before they finspd the catalogue with this cunning "&c."? w v o . I not acknowledse and do . " - - - a . ... t :.." I not want voi to see Hint, meir lavorue, vjreueiiii Harrison, signed this law to sell white men and women and subject them to thirty nine lashes, if tnn.n'oor to Da v fines and fees for assaults and w g m batteries, and such like petty offences. Here then is a double misrepresentation. First, in: adroitly intjmatmg that the law was ohlv intended for such heinous crimes as tfiey ment on: and secona, in saying uiai 11 was ui . i : . I z tended lor horse stealing and the other.cnmes they specify, which are never so mildly-punished I . - m . at. kxr a sentence ior nnes anu .uji. Rut this is not all. Their whole defence or General Harrison rests on this pretence, ana rheir whole chaTsa of our misrepresentation as to this act, is the same the law was only meant (nr infamous criminals, burse thieves, and such like. General Harrison was only lor a law for selling such offenders. This they repeat con- tinnallv. 1 hus thev sa v : ' "We take it tor srranted thai any inieui'eui uiau m;tl cpa at onre this misstatement, and will, as soon as the law is read, be entirely satisfied that selling a horse thief, or a hog thief, or one who had com- mated forgery or perjury, aiier ueuau victd' by twelve men, cannot properly or wun truth be said to be selling Tespectaote ana gooa noinrhhnr men-, for lawvers1 fees." We take it for granted that every intelligent J- ' . . . -. ' .M' man will see this misstatement, will see that we have acquitted ourselves and proved our accusers guilty of what they charged upon' us. The is stiP. between us is a plain one. If this law was intended for thieves and Dersons convicted of for gery or perjury, if they only were liable to be sold under this law of General Harrison, men we are wrong : but if otherwise, if the persons to be sold under this law were not these heinous of fenders, as the law itself shows, but persons truilty of assaults, riots, and other lesser offences Then we are right, and the misrepresentation is upon our accusers, and respectable and good nio-bhor men miht. he sold under this law for assaults and batteries, for we have known such nersons to be sometimes guilty of such onences and we presume that at least one of but accusers knows of such a case. We did not advise our constituents "to oppose the election of General Harrison becadse he vvished to punish thieves, forgers, and perjured TH CONSTITtTTIdN AND THE UNION OF THE RALEIGH, N. C. WEDNESDAY, -JULY.22, 1840. wretches," feut because her wished to punish, with", this cruel.-- and disgraceful punishment of sale and whipping, persons who werje, guilty of assaults' and batteries and such smaller offences as very honest people may Sometimes be tempted to commit, if they were too poor to pay the fines and costs of prosecution. Yet these gentlemen ask, "how could honest people suffer by such a law V "No honest man could complain of it." Now we think there are many Iffws for slight offences, -which very honest people may sometimes violate, and the law think's so too, for it punishes, in such cases, simply by the payment of fines and costs. And we complain of General Harrison, because he thought such people,, if they were poor, ought to be subject to be sold and whipped. We say it shows that he belongs to that class of politicians whose sympathies are all with the rich. They are to pay their fines and costs, which they can do without feeling it, but the poor are. to .be sold. Nay, he carries the matter still further than this. He is for a law which, while it pro vides for selling the poor, protects the rich from prosecution. Look at- this section of .the Ohio law. "Sec. 17. Be it further enacted That when any person' shall be apprehended for, or charged with committing an assault, or assault and battery, if the party accused.cat agree,' compromise, or se.ttle with the party injured, no further proceedings shall be had on account of such offence, either by indictment or otherwise." .'"'. General Harrison was for this. This vote is in Ohio journal for. 1820, page 305 Thus it .nnnMPs that Oonofnl Harrison is for I .. r... . rif rm i i i n tr h rri i ri w un tv 11 ri 11 is muiicv.. la cua- i V, u r.'.f,n u u k;.. rnnHnn escape u prosecution, aunougn n.s iuuu ...av th 'annot be' hired for the costs, nor give suffi have deserved the most exemplary punishment ; r ,Ko oamf. nr tK'r f.,tnr, aim me man wuuw iuu jjuur iu uu iuia, muoi Uc good behavior, in that case it shall and may he law triedi and if convicted, and too poor to pay his ruj ror said court to cause the offender pr offenders fine And fees, miy be sold. This is General Harrison's way of distributing criminal justice to the rich and the noor. Their monev is to rive - i - - ."i i impunity to the one, their poverty, servitude, and stripes, to the other. This is what our colleagues know they have to -defend for- their candidate: and unable to defend it, they deny it, and misstate the law, We pronounce this attempt an unworthy artifice, unbecoming members of Congress representing honest men. Fellow-citizpns: we call upon you to read this short, plain law of General Har rison's, and iud?e between us. It says: "Any crime." "breach of any penal law," our col- l( agues grossly insult your understandings," by insinuating, over and over again, in their publi cation, fwhat they dared not plainly assert,) that it does not mean any crime, any penil law, but was ' intended for horse thieves, hog thieves. burelarv. arson." etc. Now the law itself 'before them, published horse thieves, hog stealing, and arson, in page 30, and burglary in pige 21, by severer punishments than the payment of fines and costs, therefore, this sertinn was not intended for them. And the '.me law punishes assaults and battery in page 28. and riots in Daire 23. and also other offences. kir mnnsmor fines ana costs: and therefore this section applies directly to such lesser offences. And now. we ask vou, have von never Known lonest men. crood neighbor men, to be guilty of assaults, riots, obstructions to lawful authority, nnHisnrh other breaches of Saw.?. And we ask vau to sav what you think of a law which would expose such persons to sa'e, and to be whipped? nirpei . pproved L no sort And what you ininK oi ine man who a such a law.'and of the men who stop at of misstatements and artifice to uphold him lor so Joins? But our colleagues have made a great oiscove- - . . . . , - ... rv. i nev nave :ouna a iav oi lnurnrvaiumin mi I t J 1 f TVT .U I I. as bad as this of Indiana : so that "the assertion we made as. to the Indiana law, may-be made with as much truth of this law as of the Indiana aw. And here airain we mean to prove upon them another misrepresentation. We will rescue our State from a charge which we consider disgrace iui(uV..... . r "j . I. . 1 ... ihrnnrn nnnn it Ktr cnmf ft I IT Q niVfl rPCV- It has no such law in its code. rom memory, not having uie dook oeiore us, u w nrnnin pii i ii i i-ri i miii iiri kimis wv hu u. awk- uiiu disorderly in their conduct, (not confined to those whn are convicted of crimes, as the Indiana law Ill SUail uvuuiv .i D t nunishment may be inflicted as otten as tne person mav be sruiltv. allowing iweniy uj wivu "1C punishment and the onence." Now mark these worthy colleagues, who are for the honor of their State, so mom fied that "members who should have come irom North Carolina" should make misrepresents Hons. It seems tney -quote iun w "" mrtrr nftt hnvinor the book before them. I hi! way of quoting the law was, no doubt, the most cnnTPn pnt. lor thev COUia rememuer iu iiiocii. snrh niirls ns m irht suit their purpose, and re wuw a " - - . . -a member to forget the rest. Accordingly, not havino the book before them, - 41 . t I tney can oniy re member that "it is provided that certain Persons who are idle, disorderly in tneir conuuci, w confined to those who are convicted of crime, as the Indiana law Was.) should be hiret out ; thm "nnt hurinff the book before them. ana 1 they arfltavorea witn sucn a m uniuuo uv...v. w. morv. that thev quote all the rest of the section; anH'irnm th Tsnmfi na?re. being eight or nine lines, word for word,, exactly as if they had the kf- kafnro Km We have nothing to do. " . i i ,ir l therefore, with this latter part, which they have rmemhored with such surprising correctness. Those persons who could not be hired out, nor rr,T, oo.'.,ri'ttr nr to be whioned. But hn r thev that nre to be dealt with with such -:,,r ? tv thmnr denends on that. Are thev such nersons a the Indtana law subjected to sale and whipping? persons guilty of as i ...rr.. 0 . . S3 a It, riots, &c? or are they proic. dened offenders, deserving acn Psf " VaW - M 1 , 4 t? . ,u:- , .v. ,,ot ri.rpr to tnat nan oi me ivr where those 7entlemen s ,; taiA them. as remarkably as it helped .i . u ,. n Pa!1 "l u . . n;r.. Who. then, are the persons """-F ed? Those gentlemen say, -persous wuo victed of crimes, as the Indiana law wa3. STATES --T.HEY- "MUST BE pBESfeVED. .Then, according to the representation ttiese gentlemen give from memory of a law of their own State, persons who are only charged with idleness and disorder, and have not been con victed of crimes, are to .be punished by this law of North Carofirfa ; trad if so, as they intimated, it would be a harder law than that of Indiana, for the punishmentthere was after conviction ; here, according to their raenvory, it is without it. Now, let the law speak far itself : vol. I, lie- vised Statutes, page 201, sec. 44: , "If any person or persons, who have no appar ent means of subsistence, or neglect apply ing them selves to some honest calling for the support of themselves and their families, shall be found saun tering about, and endeavoring to maintain them selves by gaming or other undue means, it shall and may be lawful for any justice of the peace of the county wherein such person may be found, on due proof made, toissuehia warrant for such offend ing person, and cause him to be brought before said justice, who is hereby empowered, on-conviction,to demand security -for his Or their good behavior, and in case of refusal or neglect, to. commit him or -them to-the jail of the county for any term not ex ceeding len days ; at the expiration of which time he shall be set at libertyif nothing criminal appears against him, the said offender paying all charges, arising from such imprisonment ; 'and -if such per-: son be guilty of the like offence from and after the space of twenty days, he or they so offending' shall be deemed a vagrant, and be subject to one month's imprisonment with all costs accruing thereon, which, if he neglect or refuse -to pay, he may be continued in prison until the next court of the coun ty, which may proceed to try the said offender ; and 1 .i'- . f . f t r j J if found jTtiiltv bv a verdict of a iurv of zood and lawful men. said court mar riroceed to hire the of- W--- ' ,: -.u- r i vi . i vi t -w ' i " . months, to make satisfaction lor all costs; but it such person-or persons be of ill ta i me. so that he or I to receive thirty-nine lashes on bis or their bare back, after which he or they shall be set at liberty ; anu me cosis arising iucktu.. aUai. yCy.uc charge which'punishment may be inflicted as often as the person may be guilty, allowing twenty days between the punishment ana me onence." Now, we see what a strange perversion of this law is given by our colleagues. Are the persons it thus punishes only idle, and disorder ly, and unconvicted ? Before the law can anect tne party at an, ne must be a person who has no nppareat means . ' .--11 of subsistence, or .neglects applying himself to some honest' ca I linsr for support, then such. per- son must be found saunterinsr about and endeav- orjng-to maintain him3ew by gaming or other . I ' I undue means. When he does this, it becomes lawful for any justice, on due proof made, to issue a warrant for him. When brought before the justice, ne xei any man or womin "presume to aeai, is required to give security for his good beha- however ignorantly, with one of the white ser vior. " And this is all he is required to do. If vants of these lordlings, who buy their white he gives it, he is discharged, paying neither fellow-citizens, when too poor to pay fine and fines nor costs. If he neglects or- refuses, then' fees ; and if .he or she so presumes, without the he is to he committed to iail for any time not master's leave, they are to pay fourfold to the exceeding ten days, "at the expiration of which master, and forfeit twenty, dollars to the inform timejie shall be set at liberty, if nothing crimin- er ; and .if too poor to pay it, are. to receive at al appear against him paying the charges ol his imprisonment." Then, if he is again guilty of the like offence after twenty days, he shall be deemed a vagrant, and be subject to one month's imprisonment with the costs, "which it he ne- We should like to know ll our colleagues crjects or refuses to pay, he may- be continued in think this "a law that no honest man need com nrison until the next court of the county, which plain ol," and if they can find a law of North mav nroceed to trv the said offender, and if found gUjjty jjy a verdict of a jury of good and lawful men sajj court may proceed to hire the offender time not exceeding the spare of six mon'hs, to make satisfaction for all costs. ' Then comes the part of the law the gentlemen remember so well : if he be of ill fame and can- not be hired out, then he is to be whipped. So that, by this law, no man can be thus pun- ished only for living idle and disorderly ; he l must be a vagrant, living by gaming or other undue means. Nor are they unconvicted. At- ter refusing or neglecting to give security for their good behavior, they fire jo De commmeu l- . A Than il an-iiin mil IT. nftlO De I J . . deemed a vasrrant.andbe commiltea lora monm and then, il he neglects or retuses 10 pay me costs, is to be continued in prison till the court . ft. a . rMn nir a --. -- - , rnrfrnnn Lt. ,u i - - - . - gentlemen, tnus noenng me iusul.uuiis vi own State, must precede the hiring out or the whipping. . ; And on whom out tne lniamqus ouicatis " .v.l C A -.4 A society, vagrants, ana common nius.iucro, -uu.uaonenceSt DV imprisoning, nnes, ana costs, po this punishment fail f Ana now uoes ncoinpiic with the Indiana law, "by which honest men and rood neighbors, commuting ho offence mvolv- inor moral lurpitude, but guilty oi assaun or oiu- f.r npitv violation of law. were to be. sold for an y J . j unlimited lime, ir too poor 10 pay wieir unw l costs. -ana wunaui inai uvjuiy, iu ".r our law, even infamous vagrants were entitled) to be whipped, if .thev absconded, with thirty- ninp si nnes I Such laws as this -of our State ior tne punisn- I . r .t ment nnd restraint of vagrants, are to be found everv where, and no honest man, however poor. can suffer Irom them, tsul ynere, in wnaioimc k onnntrv whii'h nretenda to he. free, can a law k rmmH lilo this n ni iflnn lor selling anu whipping free white citizens, who have been convicted of the triflinsr offences that are pun-, iahnhlis nnlwliv the navmentof fines and costs. because they are too poor to pay them? - j. -j . r j - . Wo fnarl irl in nnr rnmments unon this law. I iht these imfnrtnnate nauners misht be sold to VI V fttV v- a free neoro. According to . this law tney cer- - . ... . t tainly might, for it says they may be sola "to anyperson or persons who win " 7,u 1 1 ft.nMMyA fine and costs. " We supposed, ioereii-, this law was like the one in Ohio, and tnat iree mieht he the rurchasers. we naa never nearu, anu it.nev ui unv. ,,. s however, have found one, and they never neard, ana Knew i rtf nn mher Jaw. uur K - thmlr ns mnh tn hlime that We did not nnO 11, Koonea ; w in tho sampKnnli." We now aa- mit that there is a law prohibiting free negroes frnm hpmr th nnrrhasers bf these White per ? r- . ; . .u u - sons, it is in a suoseaueni pan oi nnrl we nrprp not bound ta read the whole book to see if there was anv other law aliering.the n isions f lhe one we were examining, I lil J lOIUlia U I blAC UtIC s r,viw - a- VVe iherefare agree, that after passing this law authorizme: the sale to "any persau u. i snns. it was lortunaieiv laousui ini " I ,.. r ., .1 t-. na I j lYl it 1 .a.oihln mnnt to allow free rregroes to be their Durchasers: and" we thinic k sirange, . a aM .u. noor creatures was thus reconsidered, some further mitigation had not been thought reasonable. But tms was so far frotn being the case, that this very law to which our Colleagues have referred us, while it prohibits free negroes from buying them, places them under new restraints and punishments, so cruel and intolerable aar & make this law, also approved by General Harrison, a rk companion for the one we have reprehended! By the thirteenth section, if one.of these ser vants, (and let it be remembered that honest per sons, -if poor, may be made servants; and for an indefinite time, in the opinion of the court,) if they cannot pay these fines arid" costs, stall be found ten miles from the tenement of hi3 master without a pass, he may be carried be fore a justice, and be "by his order punished with stripes, not exceeding thirty-five, at hisJ discretion." By the fourteenth, Section,' if he goes to the dwelling 'house or plantation of any person whatever, without leave from his owner, "it shall be lawful for the owner of such planta tion or dwelling house," (we presume even if such owner be a free negro, unless .some oth er law . restricting these irenefal expressions be found.) "to give or order such slave or ser vant ten lashes, on his or her bare back." The eleventh section enacts, that "in all cases of penal laws, where free persons, are punishable by fine, servants shall be punished by whipping, after the rate of twenty lashes for every eight dollars." Our colleagues are welcome to all the proofs they can gather from these provisions, of-Gen eral Harrison s humanity and kindness to the Poor We thmk the condition of those ser will be considered hard enough, under vants l f.- ft ! iT sucn a sjstem ot laws, although they were not liable to be sold to free neroes. The tenth section of this law deserves a re mark: this punishes the persons who "shall buy, sellor receive of, to, or from, any ser vant, any coin or -commodity whalspever, with out the leave or consent of the master or owner of such servant; arto1 if any person shall presume to deal with any servant, without such lease or consenJ, he or she so offending shall forfeit and pay to the master or owner of such servant four times the value of the thing so bought, sold, or received, &c. and shall also forfeit and pay the further sum' of twenty dollars to any person who will sue for the same, or receive on his or her bare I I 1 I 1 I . I duck uiiny-nme nsnes, wen. iaia on, at me public whipping post; but shall nevertheless bo liable to pay the cost of said suit.' Here, then, is another law of General Har- 1.1 a. r rison s, ana we than(c our colleagues ior. re- lerrmg us to it, wnscn ntrirds another sample of his commiseration for the poor, and shows his sympathies are with the rich. the public whipping post thrrty-nme lashes on his or her bare back, well laid on ; and then they are further to be liable to pay the costs of such suit. Carolina any thing like this. So much for these Indiana laws. We have been particular on this topic, because we wished to justify ourselves from a charge most wantonly brought against us, and to make good our retort ot it upon our censors. We need not touch upon the other ac- cusations against us, alter this exposition, at much length s to the Ohio law, it speaks for itself. It is Qf the same character, and breathes throughout ,he fame spirit sympathy for the rich, severity for the poor for the one, the 17th section ol I this law, before quoted, provides impunity, to be purchased by their money for the other, public li to., sf nn 1 .. I ...... .. . ' . - . . Wi 1 it be nrtended that th s aw a so was in tended lor horse thieves, . and other infamous criminal, specified by our colleagues, and not namnus crimes enumeratea in tnis puoticauon, nol w;th fines and costs, b t with confinement in tne penitentiary;, ivna mese laws punish as I 1 m . saults, destroying iruit trees, and other lesser tnat tlus J;iW minitesily applies to these latter offences only. The sale it authorizes is of "any persoh" imprisoned, or under execution "for the non-payment ol a hne, or costs, or both. Costs are clerks', sheriffs' 'and lawvers Zees. For these. ' ' J - . . thereiore ior these (ees the man may be sold. v nen u was unuer consiaeration u was ais it cussed. General Harrison was aware, when he voted "for it. of the .objections to it. It was al leged to be applicable to cases of assault; it was shown by Governor Lucas, then in the Senate, how it might apply to an old Revolutionary soldier who, upon sudden provocation, might commit an assault, for which he might be sold, and a free negro might buy himl General Har rison denied none of this, but voted for retain? ing the section; and all this was true, tor it is not pretended that there was any other Liw of Ohio prohibiting free negroes from purchasing at such sales. So that, under this section, if General Harrison could have carried it, an hon- est good neighbor man might undoubtedly have I I . I J . . I t I . oeen soig, as we assenea, ana a iree negro mignt have bought him Where then is the misrepresentation as to this . a aa law? .With us or our colleagues? They say ..a poor man cquJ not suffer by this law." We say he could. I hey nilege we have not publish ed the 37th section of another act to which this section refers. This is true: and why should we? for it does not affect the charge. We could not have-meant to conceal it; for we published ltQ pa3Sage, jn the Journal referring to this 37th section, and were not aware that any ingenuity could make any thing out of it in the shape ofan excuse for this' vote of General Harrison ; and now that our colleagues have published it, how A n iliAtr nvnfan1 iKot it olTtivta ika cnntlnn fnr I fcllV Jlc;iIIV4 Vital It UllUkO o bliuil IWI which General Harrison voted ? It provides that wnen u is maue 10 appear i iue Bausmciiuu ui - I , V n n t. n f nrr rr loomnupa that a nurcnn , mnvisnn iubwuuii luiuiMiMnmisiuum i . ui ivu ed for a fine and costs . cannot pav them, thev may order nis aissnarge. lnis oniy maaeu ais cretionarvon thecommtssionersthev may dts charge : butalthough satisfied the man could not pay, they may not discharge j ana tne section we VOK VI-.-; NO. 299. T HKS E Vt LARS P'E R' AN N WM . - -' . ' ' ; ted quoted", and tot which General Harristwl vOjoW only says' this: discharge under this 37th seet shall not be prevented By this act ; still leaving . ,c discretionary. They mty discharge ; and therr adds these words: "if it shall be considered ex pedient to grant auch discharge.- Ifow xye-are' at a loss to see how this affects the section so .as to excuse General Harrison for voting for. tt. The man who does not pay his fine and fees, it shall be lawful for the sheriff to sell. Bait he' county coram tssioner, if eatrshed that necannor pay, may discharge him 'ii it shall oe consider ed expedient." All we. said wa, .that a man v might be sold under this law if unable to pay - fine and fees : and is it not plain that he could be 7 It is true the county commissioner, u sausnea m his inability, may discharge him if it shall b eonsidered expedient;-, but it is also true that though satisfied of his inability, they may not' consider it expedient;- and may not discharge nim Ana lstnis a proper suureci ioe saie oir ree whiteckizen, whose inability to pay is found1 to be leit to a commissioner as a question ol ex-' pediency ? We should have thought no one could be found who would not say that if the man was poor and could not pay, he oughttp be discharged absolutely. But General Harrison thought' otherwise, and our colleagues think with him,, that expediency is to determine whether he shall' be discharged or sold, i hese gentlemen are lor high doctrines and strong powers. The people , ... i i i . i are not to, have tneir ngtvs-secureu aosoiuieiy. Those .who govern must "have a discretionary authority to give or withhold their rights, a they may. see fit. This will make the people' submissive. and obedient; the poor will be hum-" ble and submissive to the rich, and vote as they please when they are made to depend upon .them. And rulers, and judgesand commissioners-will be obeyed and res.per.ted, when.they can order man, who is proved to be-poor, either to be dis charged or sold, to be free or have a master, a they may consider it expedient. We cannot be--lieve that our colleagues have done much good to their cause, or their candidate, or themselves. by referring you to this section, and claiming the right thus to dispose of their fellow-citizens-as slaves according to expediency. They have betrayed their principles-: ond the people will understand how they are to be governed, if the party which ndvoenres ibis sort of legislation shall be trusted with the power tkey. are seek- insr. It is on this account that the exposition of this subject becomes interesting and important We shall therefore follow it a little.further, and take some notice of the li tter of General Ifarris- on himself on this subject, which the publication; of our colleagues quotes, with commendation ; and shall justify, from this letter alone, all vye have Slid of these l iws and of the principles- of those who advocate then. In the first place, we see the same unfair effbrf to evade this charge, and to misrepresent, the effect and intention of the act. He says it was not intended to be applied to unfortunate debtors. but to infamous- offenders ; and he gives a detail of amendments to the penitentiary " law. changing the punishment for thefts jjnder fifty dollars, "as if these were. the infamons offenders for whom this law was intended.- We . have already exposed this! It is untrue thaJflhe la w intended "for mlamous offenders, persons , r I J .1 - - "I . convicted or assaults ana otner similar trans gressions, are not infamous." And General Harrison knew the law applied to them. It was so shown in the debate on it, and General Har rison did not deny it. So the letter cavils as our colleagues do about the terms used in this charge against him. It repels the accusation of his having voted for a aw to sell white people lor debt. He'is quite indignant that he should be. charged with such a thing. Strictly speaking these fines and feea far which .they might be sold, are perhaps not properly debts, though as it is something which a man owes, and is obliged to pay, it is pretty much the same, thing as a debt, and may have been so spoken of, without any substantial mis take. We however, had not used this term. We did not speak of dehts, but of fines and fees. The letter admits that to sell debtors is "an abomi nable principle," and that voting for such a law ivould deserve "the execration- of every honest, maa in society." Now we ask where is the differ ence between selling a man for debt, and selling him for a fine, and for clerks, and lawyer&lfees? If the first is an "abominable principle:" what is the other ? So that it cornea to this ; we charge and prove that General. Harrison voted for a law to sell poor white people for fines and fees; and bis letter is held up to show that he was not for selling them for debt ; no, that would be abomi- naole." lo which we need only sav that selling them for fines and fees was bad enough. l he General thinks .otherwise, and proclaims himself a great lover of the people, the friend of he poor. He would not sell the poor creatures for debt. He loves them too well for that : but when they, have to pay fines and fees for an ssault. then they may be struck off to the highest maaer. Me aoes not love them well enough to object to that. This lel(er seems to onsider it quite a trifle to be sold nt auction, and have a mnster ; and that the people ought to think nothing of being thus exposed, and disposed of. See what soft words he gives to the proceedings; it is only. to "be transferred to the comfortable mansion of some virtuous citizen," and they ought to be glad of it. See, ye poor white men and women ! what ove General Harrison and his supporters have for von ! what' kind provision they are willing to make for your comfort I It is true you may be sold at auction; but what of that I It will be to a virtuous citizen, for the sale is to the highest bidder, and the Tich will buy and they of course are virtuous citizens. Then you will be delivered over to your master, (the law does not say you shall be tied,) and he will take you to a comfortable mansion, not a log cabin, and his admonitions will check your vicious propensities. This is the way General Harrison thinks and feels about the sale of a free citizen; & our col- lea ges concur with him, .and think no honest man need complain of it. 1 Fellow-citizens, does not uch language betray the true principles of the men who are seeking to conciliate your favor? Tt shows how they undervalue your intelligence as men, and your feelings as freemen. They know nothing otyou They know nothing of the high spin'V. with" which the honest laborer goes forth to his daily toil, returnes to his rude fare and humble home, and rejoicesjn the proud consciousness that what he sees around him is bis own, and that there is "none to make him afraid." !t ii f! 1 1 I ' j 4: i r . if; I! r r.