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. ft . , . ! v i i - V AID: W Ef:III ABYEITI E i v. VOLUME II. RUTIIERFORDTON, SATURDAY EVENING, MARCH 19, 1831. NUMBER 5. MDimm: 1 I I! " PUBLISHED EVERY SATURDAY EVENIN& BY ROS WELL ELMER, Jr. I Terms of subserivtion. Two dollars and fiftv cents, per annum, if paid in advance ; or three dol- 'lars, if paid within the year: but if delayed after the close of sthe year, twenty-five cents will be added. - " ' ; "'; No paper will be discontinued until particularly ordered and all arrearages paid, or at the discre tion of the publisher. - ! Advertisements inserted on the' usual terms. 7 AU persona advertising will please note the num ber of times they wish to Jiave them inserted, or they will be continued and taxed saccordiiigly. Jit: IS POLITICAL. I CORRESPONDENCE Between General Andrew Jackson and ! John C. Calhoun, President and Vice President of the United States, on ike subject of tltc course of the latter, in ike deliberations of the Cabinet of Mr. Monroe, on the occurrences of the Scsi inolc War. ' ; i (Continued frorri page 14.). orablv and fully performed towards you every duty that friendship imposed, and hat any ; imputation to the contrary wholly unmerited, j : ... ; You jmistake in supposing that I any dispute with Mr. Crawford. ie Dears me m-wiii is certain : out wnat- inkindness I ever, had to wards him has long since passed away ; so much so, that, instead of returning his attacks on me, the line of conduct which had prescribed to myself was, to bear General JdcTcson.to Mr. Calhoun. May 30i 1830. Sir-?-Your communication of th 29th mst. was handed me tins morning, just as I was going to Church, and of course was not read until 1 returned. I regret to find that you have entirely mistaken my note 01 the; loth inst. ihere is no part 01 it which calls in question, ci ther your conduct or your motives, in the case alluded to, Motives are to be infer: red from actions, and judged ofc by God. It liad been intimated to me many years ago, that it was you, and not Mr. Craw ford, whtf had been secretly endeavoring to destroy my reputation. 1 beseinsinu ations, I indignantly repelled, updn "the ground that you, in all your letters to me, professed to be my personal friend, , and approved entirely my conduct in relayon 1 " Wi ll 10 me emmoie campaign. 1 naatoo er- altd an opinion or your honor and irank ncss, to believe for one moment, that you and friendship to you, have, in the most- art- I utterly unworthy of the ofnee which I oc-1 in my. letter to the President, as far d you I hostile to me as- Mr. Crawford is, ful manner, for years intimated that I have Icupied. Why should I conceal t 1 ow- were concerned with tliem. I I who could not. as you know, make the been secretly endeavoring to injure you, ed no responsibility to you ; J and, if you In the direction which this affai has disclosure consistently with the pnnci however absurd the idea ; but I must ex- were not afraid t place youij construction taken, it is not for me to determine whe- pies of honor and fidelity, when my pre press! my surprise that you "should have on your orders, why should 1 be afraid to ther you ought to furnish me any nfor- vious correspondence with you ought to permitted insinuations, as base as they place mine? I h was an affair of mere of- mation, or what it ought to be. I ad I have satisfied you that I was prepared to are false, to operate on vou. when everv fieial dntv. involnncr no mixtion of nn-1 suDoosed that, under the circumstan43 111 cive vou. franklv and fully, any iniortna- - - . , 1 j 1 j ;j --- o .4 . g I r ( -- -- - t 10 . - 0 ' ' word and act 01 mine gave to them the lie vate enmity or fneudtinp anq so I, treated! whicii I was placed, such a right btiing direct. j I feel conscious that I have hon- it. j 1 !l ' ed to me, I would have claimed it rlcvi- 7 and fully performed towards voul In conclusion) I must remark, that I ously to my answer to the President's let- had supposed that the want of sincerity ter -so as to liavc had the advahtage,je and frankness would be the; last ' charge fore I made my reply, of whatever light that would be brought asrainsi me'.. Coifi- miirhtbe furnished fromthe sources I there- have irig from a quarter frdn which I had rea- in indicated. That there are those who That son to expect for different treatment.' and intend that this affair shall operate against destitute, as 1 know it tobe, of the slight- me politically, by causing a rupture be est foundation, it could no: fail to excite tween myself aud the President, and there feelings too warm to be exposed, with a by affect, if possible, ray standing with the due regard to the official reljon whioh I nation, I cannot doubt, for reasons which tion which you might desire, in relation to my course on the occasion. 1. J.U.UALUUU.A. To President Jackson, j bear to1 you. I have stated in my answer to the Presi- patieutjy and silently all that he might do ly,,your most obedient servant, I have the honor to be, yepyVespectful- j dent ; but I must be permitted to express or say, leaving it to time and truth to vin dicate my conduct. If I have apparently departed trom the rule that I have prescri bed in this case,it-wasnotfrom adisposition on my part to alter the line of my con duct, but when you interposed your nar ie, by placing in my hands a copy of nis letter addressed to Mr. lorsytn. 1 was JOHN C. CALkoUN. General Andrew Jackson: ' Mr. Forsyth to Mr: Ctilhdm., Georgetown, 1J. U. Slay a, 1830. my surprise that you should suppose x my General Jacl son to Mr. Forsyth. . Washington, Jon 7, 1830. Sir have received your letter of the 2d inst. enclosing a copy of your letter to Mr. Calhoun, of the 3 1 bt ult., and his re ply thereto, all which I have duly noted. 1 You have requested u copy of Mr. Cal houn's letter to me of the 4-i9th of May last, for the purpose of its being ehown to Mr. Crawford, iMr. Calhoun, in hp reply remarks comprehended you, when .they to you jocs not consent, nor yet object. expressly reterreu to those whose names did not appear in the transaction, and consequently excluded you. My answer to the President is his pro- Sir Having, at the request of tie Pres- perty, and not mine; and consequently it ident to be informed what took the Cabinet 'of 3Ir. Monroe !j on iiace in tie sub compelled, by an act! of yours, in order jet of thej Seminole campaign, Wd be-J thnt mv si Pnc murht nnt hA intprnrpfpH lore mm a CO )V teXCePl Uie OmiSlOll Ol into an bcknowledgment of Jhe truth of a, name; 01 a letter trom ? JHr, Lrhvtord, Mr. Crawford's statement, to correct his wuicn nas since neen communicaed to mis-staiements, and to expose the enmi- yu the President has thought it jVst to ty which actuated hjm, and which sought permit me to read your answer of th-9th to use you as an instrument of its gratifi- insl- lo nis: letter inclosing it. lietVeen you anu ine iresiuent, or Detween you ind belougs to him, and not to me, to deter mine to whom lie shall, or shall not, give copies. ; . , 1 am, very respectfully, &c. - J. C. CALHOUN. Jlon. John Forsyth. $Tr. Calhoun to General Jaclson. rendlcton, June 22, 1830. to your being furnifchcd with a copy, but reftrs the matter to my discretion. A copy of the original letter of Mr. Crawford to you hating been submitted to me, it occurred as being proper and correct that you should be apprised of Mr. Calhoun's answer, and thereforeit was shown to you. ; 1 caunot on reflection, perceive any impropriety in how according to you the request you have made, partic ularly as, on your referring this matter to Mr. Calhoun, he does not object. "I ac cordingly send it, with this injunction, that it be used for no other purpose but cation Vou intimate that at some future time, when you may have more leisure, you will place. the subject of this correspondence in a different light. I wish you to be as sured I feel every confidence that, when- Mr. Crawford, or between jyou and he friends of Mr. Crawford, when spokenW in general it is not my intention 16 inteV vene. There are,' however! circumstau ces in your letter, of a personal charactei could be capable of such deception. Un- he. other, throughout this whole trausac- tnn. ! , . !!- !; .-. .. Thai you honestly ! thought that your orders authorized you to do w4iatyou did, have never questioned ; but that you can show by any document, public or pri vate, that they were intended: to give you the authority .which you assumed, or that any such construction! was placed on them, at any time, by the administration, or my- seltm particular, I believe to be impossi ble. der the influence of these friendly feel ings, (which I always entertained for you) yhcn I was presented with a copy of Mr. Crawford's letter, with that frankness whichJ iver has, and l hope ever twiu, character ize my conduct, I considered it due to you, and the friendly relations which had al ways existed between us, to lay it forth with before you and ask if the statements contained in that letter could jbe true ? I-repeat, I had a right to believe that you were my sincere friend, and, until now, never expected to have occasion, to say of you, - in the language of Coesar, Et tu Brute ? The evidence which hasbrought me to this conclusion, is abundantly con tained in your letter now before Inc. In your and Mr. Crawford's ispute, I have no interest whatever ybxit it may become necessary for me hereafter, when 1 shall have more leisure, and the documents at nana, to place the subject in its proper light to notice the . historical facts and references in your communication, which will give a very different view of this sub ject.;, " , '. - ' y. , It is due to myselt however, to state that the knowledge of the Executive doc uments arid orders in my possession, will show conclusively, that I had authority for all I did, and that your explanation of my powers, as declared to Gov. Bibb, shows your own understanding of them. Your letter to me of the 29th, handed to day, and now before me, is the first inti ir.ation to me that j you ever entertained any other opinion or view of them. Your conduct, words, actions and iCtters7 1 have ever thought show this: Understanding you now, no further communication with you 011 this subject is necessary. I have the honor to be, very respectful ly, your most obedient servant; . ANDREW JACKSON. - - To the Hon. John C. Calhoun. . Mr. Calhoun to General Jackson. j Steam Boat Potomac, 1st June, 1830, ' I Sir -Though you intimate in your let ter of yesterday, that no further' commu nication with me is necessary on the sub ject to which it refers, I feel myself compel led to notice some of iryour remarks, lest my silence should be construed into an acquiescense in their truth or justness. I sjiall be as brief as possible. v 1 i You say that I have entirrlv inistnken your letter of the 13tlt May, m supposing that it questioned either mV rntJtra r conduct. I am not aware that I have im puted to yoii an impeachment of mv mo tivesbut I certainly did understand that you had questioned the sincerity and frank ness of my conduct ; and 1 must add that your present letter, notwithstanding the most demonstrative proof which I had of fered to the contrary, shows clearly that I understood you correctly ; and of course, was not as you suppose, mistaken. -, I 1 have no doubt, that there, are those who, actuated by enmity to me, and not of my answer. You will learn by a perusal of Mr. i or- 1 .,.!.: I .U . 1... i 1 .1 i ever you may be disposed to controvert jiiic4uu c iu ue piuceuiu ineir uue iigni; thp i nrrpotnPKS nf p'lthpr stntPmPiit or nnn- in justice td you and lUVSelfl As to the Aiint in itViic nflTnir T chnll K rrprnrprl rn I first, vou coin olain that the! interbosition 1 syth's letter, that it refers to the corres- mr,nrJ to mnintnin'thp tr.it!. of th nnp of the name of the President de Drives voii pondence between us, and that it places i and frankness, honor, and potriotisra of important rights ; among) these is enu- "r"-'1- : I embrace the first leisure moment the one you have stated,4 to be shown to since my return home, to enclose to you Mr. Crawford.! . a copy of a letter from Mr. Forsyth, the ltt the letter which you have addressed original of which was handed to me on to Mr. Calhoun, you state as' follows to my, passage from Washington to Norfolk, wit : "Having, at the request of thcPres on bdard the steam boat, and also a copy ident to be informed whaf took place in the Cabinet of Mr. Monroe on the subject of the Seminole campaign, laid Inforc him a copy (except the omission of a name) of a letter . from Mr. Crawford," &.C This is construed by .Mr. Calhoun merated "the right of being placed (by me) hght' m some respects diflerent trom what uuo a declaration that I requested you to in possession of all the factsiand r circura- na( previously regarded it. I had sup- furnish me with the information. . I am stauces connected with this affiiir.' So Posed lrom tne complexion 01 your letter Isatistiefuf was not by you so intended, to me, that the copy of Mr. Crawford a I anj I wiiuld be clad vou would so explain letter to Mr. Forsyth had been placed by it t0 him. 1 never conversed with you up- the latter m your hands, without any pre vious act or agency on your part ; but, by Mr. Forsyth's letter tome, I am Inform ed that such is not the fact. It seems that he acted as your asrent in the affair. . He You mst. is Remark that my letter of the 29th he first intimation you had that I i. !affi,r." So far as I understand the point Jon which the President desired lnformatton, there is no circumstances or I facts within my knowledge that can throw any Additional ngnt upon it. l here is certitilj no tact or circumstance wiuuu my Knowieace.ai- rectly or collaterally connected with it, that is not at your service. If desirable to you, you shall be furnish ed with a copy of my letter (a copy of it is in the President's kinds) referred to in xta.. j. a iciicr iu ine. anu wiiii me name on this subject previous to the lime when you sent me Mr. Crawford's letter. The facts are these : 1 had been informed that Mr. Crawford had made a statement con cerning this business, which had come to states that you applied to him tobe infor- the knowledge of Col. 'James A. Hainil- med ot what tooK place in the cawnei oi ton, of New York. On meeting with Col. iiuu urn a uiuereni view.irom yoursen i'c .u or.i ' j. . of your orders. That you should conceive fcnn , eu ;tn tho jyAf t . I that you had no intimation before, is to 1 f li . me unaccountable. 1 had supposed that liTZiL'" 71C J" I J J ; -V r tit r ' t . i.ati. iw nintu my urai was un answer, us the invitation of Mr. Monroe, in his letter t . . -r - 1 r.U- rtn.L . ,n,r .. I IU I1UI sure lUal 11 13 111 UcIlllT I II 11 IS v tu v vfhi vuuuw. ioio, win. nic r., j i A.j. intention that the different views you and myselt ot the orders should be placed on the files of the Department, and return to Geor copy of lit; . Havinn my letter to you of the 13th April, 1823, covering a copy of my letter to Major Lee, in which 1 referred tothe public documents, and private correspondence between you arid Mr. Monroe, as containing the views taken of your orders, and the offer which I ijiade to present my views more fully, if not given sumciently explicit in the docu ments referred to, were at least an intima tion that we differed in the construction of the orders ; and i feel assured that nei ther "ray conduct, words, actions, or let- est proof to the con- ters" afford the sligh trary. charge which you The m ine aud can be fbund on rny taken by -a i.QU haye a c thus offered iustice accord in 5 to your view ot it, you will not be surprised, that I should expect justice in return. Your answer to the President seems to be founded upon the presumption that there i. some con spiracy secretly at work to do injury to your character, and to destroy your polit ical consequence. With thisf presumption I have no concern ; but the! circumstan ces under which my name is introduced by you, renders it proper that I should be distinctly informed if this charge of con spiracy against you is intended to apply to me. i . ' - . I v to Mr. C. and for his use. I ilr. iuonroe, on the subject ot the cemi uole campaign; and I infer, as tie infor mation could be obtained only from some one;of the members of the cabinet, and as IMr. Forsyth was not one, aid, as l am informed, not particularly intAnate with any of its members, except M. Crawford, that the object of your reque was to ob tain the information throughpNIri Forsyth from Mr. Crawford, and that; Consequent ly, in writing to him, atid ii placing the cony of his letter in your lands, he can .. .4... . Hamilton, l inquired ot him, and recei ved for answer that he had, but remarked that he did not think it proper to,' commu nicate without the consent of the writer. I answered, that being informed that the Marshal of this District had, to ' a friend of mine, made a similar statement to thai , said to have been made by Sir. Crawford. 1 would be glad to sec Mr. Crawford's statement, and desired he would write and obtain his consent. Juy reasons were, that I had, from the uniform friendly pro- be regarded in no other liiht but that of fessions of Sir. Calhoun, always believed your agent. I him ray friend in all tins Seminole bust under this new aspect ot mis auair, i conceive that I have therisht to claim of - o you to be put in possession of all the ad ditional informatiou, which 1 might fair ly have demanded of Mr. Forsyth, had the correspondence been originally be-py of this letter, ness ; and l had a desire to Know n in in is I was mistaken, and whether it was pos sible for Mr. Calhoun to have acted with such- insincerity and duplicity towards" me. 1 have enclosed Mr. Calhoun a co- have made a- In justice shall apply tween him and mvself, on the supposi tion on which I -acted previously to the receipt of his letter. ' He avows himself ready, if desired by me, to furnish me wiui the . admiionai imormation ; out a o the President for a copy of seDse 01 pronety would not permit me to ; the 29th inst. I If vou have niakc the Wiest of him. Considered as gainst me, of secret hostility and opposi- any objection you will stateTt. I shall your agcnthi Uiiscffair, it is not for me tion, which, if true, would so vitally affect take it for granted that vou acquiesce, un- t0 maketh request ofinforraation of him. my character for sincerity and honor, and less otherwise informed. ! t . hat additional information W - - . " : " I T which has caused a rupture in our Ion continued friendship, has no other foun dation" but that of a difference between us in the construction of your order orders issued by myselt, the intention of which, I if course, could not mistake, whatever may be their true construction in a mili tary point of view, and' the right and duty oi interpreting wnicn Deiongea especiauy L : l u" j r t 1 conceive V . iT- . , -fr , . , mjiCll-ia beUmyJr to you of Ue 29th MayTwill sufficiently indicate. A part of th infoonAticm, it seems from Mr Forsyth'i letter, is .already in your rtoisessipn, and there can be no doubt but that the whole would be furnished at your request. I make this application solely from the desire of obtaining the means of enabling And ami sir, with respectful regard, your most obedient servant, ANDREW JACKSON". The Hon. John Fornih, Scneior in Cortgru:. Mr. Forsyth to General Jackson AvgQfUt Jone 18, Sir 1 have had the honor to? receive your letter of the 7th inst. and the copy papers enclosed within it. The papers will be shown to 3Ir. Crawford, and no other use made of them by me. I did not intend to convey to Mr. Cal houn the idea that any personal commu nication ever took place between us prior to the date of Mr; Crawford's letter, rela- , five to the occurrences in Mr. Monroe's -Cabinet on the question of the Seminole, war. What 1 intended he should know. and I suppose will now understand, if I have inadvertently misled him, is, that 1 did not volunteer to procure the informa tion contained in Mr. Crawford letter, but that it was obtained for your use, in compliance with your request. 3Ijor Hamilton requested me, in your name, to irive to vou what I had nrcvioufly euen to him." Mr. Crawford's account of the transaction. I "With this request I compli ed, after having first obtained Mr. yraw- fordTs consent, and receiveu irora mm rus correction of a miftake I had made in re Deatinflphia Trrbal Statement. I have the honor to be, c. JUlk 1UKM1 II. To Andrew Ja; Fruidcni of the V. Stcfy Sir General Jackson having' sent to " 1 ' . . I m - . W.l cealmeiit never entered mv conception, which I was justified to do, judging by the ply for information as to my course in the you a copy ox nis icucr iv y - ! and to suppose it. is to suppose that I was facts before me. fully explairis mv remarks ! cabinet, to one whom you know to Ik 'inst. it is proper inai ju ; -w. I am, sir, your obedient servant, ' I JOHN FORSYTH. Hon. John C. Calhoun. If i . ! I - . ; Mr. Qalhoun to Mr. Forsyth. Steam Boat Potomac. Juke 1, 1830. Sir I have just received your let ter of the 31st ult. which was handed me by Mr. Archer. It gives me the first inti- jto me; as the head of the War Depart- mation that the President applied to you me to unravel this mysterious affair. ; menu H I he mere statement 01 these tacts xo oDiain lntormation oi wnaji .iook. piace r ocis ana circumstances, ugni oi xnem must give rise to a train of reflections, the in the Cabinet of Mr. Monroe, on the sub- selves, may, when viewed in connection, expression of which I cannot suppress. ject of the Seminole campaign, and, of afford important light as to the origin and j Your course, as I understand it, assumes course, as Isuppose, that you were act- object of what I firmly believe to be a base for its basis that I, who, as Secretary of ing for hira, and not for yourself, in your political intrigue, got up by those who re War, pssued the orders, have some motive correspondence with Mr. Cravyford. Nei- gard your reputation and the public inter to conceal my construction of them, as if ther the copy of his letter toj you, placed est, much less than their -own personal I had rio right ta form an opinion wheth- in ray hands by the President, nor his advancement. - j er the, officers to whom they were given note covering the copy, gave pJc the slight- I must remark in conclusion, that the had transcended them or not, while the est intimation of this fact; button the con- letter of Mr. Forsyth affords to my mind officer jvas at perfect liberty! to express, trary, I had; a right to presume from Mr. conclusive proof that the intimations to and maintain his construction. My right, Crawford giving you authority to show me my prejudice, to which you refer in your as Secretary ofWar, Was at least as . pei- his letter, if you pleased, that the corres- letter of the 30th. ultimo, and which you feet as yours,'ai "commanding officer, to pondence originated with yourself, and seem to think made no impression on your judge of the true intent and limits of your was under your entire' control, and not as mind, havenot been without thcr intend orders, and I had no more motive jto con- I now ihferj "at the, request Jof the Pres- ed effect. On no other supposition can I ceal mv construction of them than you ident. and for his use." The view in explain the fact. that, without giving me had to conceal yours. The idea of con- which I regarded the correspondence, and any intimation of the step, you should ap-