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18 THE NORTH CAROLINA SPECTATOR AND WESTERN ADVERTISER. VOL. II. -I answer to it : you will find a copy oh .the opposite page. I am, '-sir, with respect, f JOHN FORSYTH. i Hon. John C. Calhoun r.. j . ; ; ' ' 1 . r General Jackson to Mr. Calhoiht. V ; . , Washington, Jane 7830.1 : Sir On the 5th irist. I received a lei ter from Mr. Forsyth, of the Senate, re questing a copy of your letter to me of the 29th May last. I have not been able to perceive any objections, to comply wilh his request. A copy of my letter to rhiii on this subject, I have thought it propei, should be sent to you ; it i therefore- en ' closed. 1 am, sir, very respectfullyyot - most obedient servant. " " . ANDREW JACKSON, i : The Hon. J. C. Calhoun; Vice-President of the U. States. the darkwis justice in every stage of the cabinet delib But what- eration, and, after a full investigation, I you adopt- entirely approved and heartily supported ation which I the fanal decision. In mis course a vras material to a correct understanding of the I which, of course, leaves- me ia tacts ; out i must say, after a careful pe- to their nature or character, rusal of your letter to him, as well as yours ever they may be, the course lo myseii, i amutterlv at a loss to nHreeivel ed. considprma ttiR fnendlv re .. .-. tj - : . i i -& - - i ... i - ft tne ' gross errors" of which you accuse I had reason to suppose existed between guided, it is true, not by leenngs oi inena- me, as tar as 1 can understand you, they us, is well calculated to excitet surprise. ship, but solely by a sense oi auijr. v nen seem to ' consist jn the supposition that I Instead of applvin to the Marshal, in or- our country is concerned, there ought to -mr i.-r, . i rrj p. ... i , .. , . , r. 1,1.- micrrcu. irom jut. rorsyth's letter that you aer to ascertain what he aia say, anuirom De room neitner ior incuuui vuiui- whom he derived his information, and then ty. applied to him personally to obtain the in- iormatipn from Mr. Crawford, of 4 what took place in the cabinet on the Seminole submitting his course friendship, and the statement to me, which You conclude your letter by saying mat high opinion you understand the matter now, mat you question; ; whereas, in 1 fact, vou applied which you sav fou entertained for my feel no interest in this altercation, and that lt 1 - W - - - 1 . ...m -I. k tj - - LI I 1 11 1 If. CTCr hoi iu mm, Dut to Mr. James Hamilton, ot cnaracter "tor fair, open, auq .nonoraDie you wouiu leave me ana wr. viomujy, New York ; and that it! was he, and not conduct in all things." manifestly dicta- and all concerned, to settle this affair in you, who applied to Mr. Forsyth to ob- ted, you applied for information, as to my our own way, and that you now close the uuu uie;iniormauon. it mere be a oil- conauct. to the man wno, you Knew,, ieii coiresponoence ior ever. General Jackson to Mr. Calhoun. -' Hermitage, June 19 1830. Snt : Your letter of the 22d June last has just been received, via Washington Ci . ty. J regret that mine to you of the 7th of May, covering a copy of one to Mr. Forsyth from me of the same date, had not reached you, as it would have preven ted you from falling into the; gross .errors you have, from the unfounded inferences you have drawn from Mr. Forsyth's letter to me, -and would hare informed you that 1 had no conversation or communication with Mr. Forsyth on the subject alluded to, before the receipt of the copy of Mr. Crawford's letter, which I ! so promptly I'll r ' m .i J iaia oeiore yoq. 10 correct tne errors into which thelnferencesyou have drawn trom JUr. orsytlrs letter have led you, 1 herewith again enclose you a copy of my letter to Mm t orsyth of the 7th of May and his answer thereto of the 17th . June last, which 1 received on the 8th instaht, and I have to regret that any interruption i of the mail prevented your receipt of mine of the 7th May ,' which was mailed the same time mine to Mr. Forsyth was. ; Mr, Forsyth having promised, in his letter ,to me of the 17th June, that he would explain, and by letter correct you in the unjust and unfounded inferences which you had drawn from his letter ;and I mus add here, for vour information; that, if understood your other allusions,1 they are a equally unfounded. I have never-heard it even intimated, except; in your letter that the individual to whom I suppose yon allude had flie slightest knowledge on the subject, or the most remote agency in the matter. In conclusion, I repeat, I have always met the intimations of your having made before the cabinet, in secret coun cil, against me, injuriousmovj(nen.ts, with flat and positive denial, and thought into Tie w, by way of rebutter, your uniform and full approval of my: whole conduct on the Seminole campaign, so far as I, or any of ray friends, hadj heard you on the subject ; arid the high, character you sus tained for fair, open, aud honorable con duct in all things was entirely opposed to the secret, uncandid, and unmanly course ascribed to you by those intimations, and I banished from my mind what I concei- ' i . . - vea to oe unjust imputations upon your honflr, by ascribing duplicity to you, never, until after the mtimftious were communicated to me -of the suzsTestioris of the Marshal, as stated in my letter to Mr. Forsyth; (a copy of which was en 1 closed to you.) j It was then that l1' had a desire to "see the statement said to have ference in principle between the two state- towards me the strongest enmity I wish ments, I can only say that I am not res- not to be understood that ypu, had mere general information of his ill-wiji towards me. Your inforhiation was Of the most specific character, and was ofjsuch a na ture as ought to htve made y ou distrust anv statement of his, calculated to affect my reputation. ; Knowing ie political rnachmations ponsible ought to and not for it. ; The chaiisre of be made asrainst Mr. Forsyth. me. His .words are : "Having, at the request of the President to be infor med What took place in the cabinet of Mr. Monroe on the subject of the Seminole campaign , laid before him a copy (except the omission ot a name) of a letter from Mr. Crawford, which has since been com- municated to you," &c. &c. Now, Sir, inferred from these words, as you that were casing on against I me, and It is not for me to object to the manner you may choose to close the correspon dence on your part. On my part, I have no desire to prolong it. The spectacle of the first and second officers of this great republic engaged in a correspondence of this nature, has no attraction for me at a ny time, and is very far from jcing agree able at this critical juncture of our affairs. My consolation is, that it was not of ray if I had suppose plied to mation wishing to lace me on my guard, a friend seeking; and, as I am not responsible for of mine pUced in my hands, i some time its commencement, I feel no dispositiorito since, a opy ot a letter written, by 3lr. incur any responsiDUity lor its continu- I did, that you had personally ap- Cravfod to a Nashville correspondent of ance. Forced into it, to repel unjust and Mr. Forsyth to obtain the infor- his in 827. It constitutes ode pf-the ma- base imputations upon my character. or you, 1 would have done no ny nvans resorted to in order ttv excite could not retire in honorwhile they con more than what I fairly! might, without the imputation of "gross errors." But I made no such inference ;;ori the contrary, have uspd almost the very words of Mr. Forsyth; ISIy langugc; is : "I had suppo sed, from the complexion of your letters to me, that the copy of Mr. Crawford s letter to Mr. Forsyth had been placed by i i . . i i : " -. . " tne latter in your nanas, without vious act or agency on vour part Mr. Forsyth's letter to me, 1 am in that sucli s not the fact, j It seems that he acted as your agent in the affair. He states that you applied; to him to be infor med of vhat took place in the cabinet of Mr. Monroe on the subject of the Semi nole campaign." In my letter to Mr. Forsyth I use almost verbatim the sara language. As far as I am capable of ui derstauding the force of words, my lar- guage does not vary, in the smallest ch its sense, from that used by Hr. your suspicion against me. j ltij it Mr. Cr jvford makes an abusive attacl upon riiei but not content with th(is assailing myj character in the dark, he offers to brtyg into the inarket the iurljience which Georgia might have ou -the 'presidential 1 -' w : tinued to be reiterated. Having now fully vindicated my con duct, I will conclude the correspondence also, with a single remark, that I too wel know what is due to my rights and self respect, in this unpleasant affair, to per lefction, as a means whereby j to depress mit myself to be diverted into an alterca nj political prospects. To avoid the pos- tion with Mj. Crawford, or any other in any pre- sihlity of mistakes, 1 will give; extracts of dividual, whom you may choose to consider ; but, by wlat 1 have stated. " ( as concerned in this affair. - uforraed Speaking of the Presidential election,, J.C.CALHOUN. M. Crawford says that,-"the only diffi- clty that this fetate (Georgia) has upou tie subject, (your election,) istl on should be elected, Calhou nto power. Again ifit, if Jack- will come u i- i r Ptesident Jackson. Mr. (frawford attempted to open a correpon dence wftth ine oq this subject. 1 returned hi? let ter, declining all correspondence with him, except mrough General Jackson, tee Appendix ti. intended for The "If vou can ascertain that Calhoun will not be benefitted by Jackson's election, you will iio hiru a benefit by coimunica tingthe information to me., !Mtke what use you please! of this letter, and show it to whomiyou please. ; That the letter was clearly vour inspection, cannot be doubted. authority to his correspondent to make what use he pleased; and to shoic it to 'ichoml he ring trom Mr. rorsyth s letter that vou vieasca. with the nature ot the .mtorraa- had personally applied to him, when, Jn tion sought, whether 1 Was to be; benefit- fact, it was not you, but your agent, James ted by your election, which could onlyi be Hamilt4n,J (of New York.) who applied I derived from yourself , leaves no dbubt Ion for you in your'name as Mr. Forsyth in-, that point; and I am accordingly infor formed you in his letter of the 17th June, med that you saw the letter. I . it requires more penetration than I pos- A proposition ot the kiuo at tjiat par FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. gree, in Forsyth'in his letter to me, and most cer tainly does not more strongly imply tlau nis does; that you applied to him person ally for the information, j But, suppose I had tallen into the "gross errors' of infer- - From the Boston Patriot.! By the arrival at this port -(ith instant, of the ship Mary & Harriet. Cant Bar- stpw, we have our London papers to Jan. xU, and Liverpool to Jan. 1. The most important news by tbis arri vla is the arrest of Mr. O'Connell, thr celebrated Irish patriot. The disturban ces both in England and Ireland continu ed, and this eyent is by.no means calcula ted to allay them. . " . Arrest of Mr. O1 Connelly Mr. Steel Mr. liarret, Mr. John Reynolds, aid Mr. Lawless i on a charge of conspiring to evade the proclamation act. On Tuesday morning the house of Sir. O'Connell, in Marion-square, was visited iAtrt, l4 capital convictions, 2 sentenced to death, 59 to be transported or Jmpris- oned. In Dorsetshire, 5 capital convic xlons 14 to prison. The London Spectator of 22d Jan. thus describes the state of the "Bold Peasant ry" of England. , By all accounts, there were more fires last week than during any seven days since the first rick was lighted in Kent. One of the main purposes, therfore, of the Spe cial Commissions has not Iccn answered. The Commissions have quelled the riens : but their success in this respect perhaps is the cause of increased activity on the part of the stack-burners. We fear, that if a . strict account were cast up of the imme diate good and evil produced by these Commissions, the balance might not be found in favor. But be this as it may, in calculable good may hereafter result from their labours, the reports of which furnish us with a body, of unquestionable evidence respecting the condition of the peasantry. est India planters often dt fend their property in thews and sinews of black men by asserting that the condition of slaves is not inferior to that of. English peasants. Hitherto such' statements have been generally received as calumnies on what Sir. Justice Allen Parks still calls "this happy country." But' the fact is proved beyond a doubt. A large portion of the "frceborn people of England" is shown to be in a state of the lowest misery and degradation, ill-lodged, and half clothed; not half-fed; ignorant and bru tish to the last degree; helots, and worse than helots (for the master has some inter est in the well being of his slave, whilst the English overseer has none); snatching the bread out of each other's mouths by the competition of excessive numbers; des pised or forgotten by nearly all above them, against whom they uourish a deadly ha tred ;'aud apparently cut off from , the so cial system I i What a picture of "merry England !" So profound are the wretchedness and abasement of the scene, that, instead of fearing to exaggerate its horrors, one is at a Joss for words of evil import by which to describe them fully. The markets, both for cotton and Hour, were very active. The latter at an ad vanced rate. 1 Commodore Crciahton. adclphia Chronicle of "Com. Creighton s sess'to discover how'the differenr.fi ran. in ticular Denod.wheu the presidential elec the slicrlitpst Hptrrp nfTont tho nnlir :moto. I tinn ivna most doubtful, mill rrtnst wnrm Iv I by Mr. Farrell. Chief Constable, and -r ""f luaii-- " " 1 , J I i . .... , , 1 ' . 1 . I ..1 1'' S.I . I I L ' n a n m tm I BM mliA m n Kaih m n A nai question, wnether he acted as a mere contested, needs no comment as to its on- caic umwi n wm, uu, upwu uiug au volunteer, or as your agent. Mr. For syth himselt decides this j question. He tells you -expressly, that he did not act as a volunteer ; and it is oh the ground that he acted tor you, and not for himself, that ject. To sav nothing ot its iriora) and po- muea to mat gentleman s presence, siaieu litical character, stronger proof could not that they had a warrant against him, is be ofiered of the deepest enmity Howards sued from the head-office, on a charge of me on the part1 cf the writer, which at least conspiracy, to evade the proclamations oncrht tn have Waced vou on Ivmir miarJ recently, promulgated by the Lord Lieu- I r j ;J - r I I claimed of you to be put in possession of agaiust all attacks on me from that quar- tenant. After a long conversation, which information (informed) bv Colonel Ham uton tnpvsucn statements had been seen in writing, that 1 made the request to see iU with the oltject of laying it before you, wliich I then supposed would meet your prompt and positive, negative. But I re gret that instead of a negative, which I had a right to expect, I had the poignant mortification to see in your letter an ad mission of rs truth: . Understanding the matter noW, I feel no interest in"this al tercation, and leave vou and Mn Craw- "ford, and all oncerned, to settl the affair in your own way, and now close' this cor respondence for ever. I am, very respectfully. Your, most obedient servant, ANDREW JACKSON. Hon. J. C. Calhowu r Vice-President of the U. States. -Mr, Calhoun to General Jackson. . " Fort Hill. 2nLh Aiifrnst. T?rt K 1 reemvod, on the bth inst., vour letter dated the 19th June, but w hicb, I suppose, was intended for the J9th July, wimits enclosures. On.the24th of June 1 received the note of Mr. Forsyth, cover- same the co certain facts connected! with the subiectof ter. TheJetter will not be denied i but our cunrresponaence, wnicn were m the k, contrary to j expectation, it snouio, i possesabn of Mr. Forsyth,, and which I stand ready, by highly respectable author- deemed important to the full develope- ity, to maintain its authenticity. . , ment of his affair; but, I instead of com- You well know the disinterested, Open, plying wth so reasonable a request, you and fearless course which myself and my reply , not by denying the justice of the re- friends were pursuing at this very . period, and the weight of cumity which; it' drew down upon usYrom your opponents. " Lit tle did 1 then! suspect that thesife'. secret been made by Mr. Crawford, and,, when T 1 i u T. y 5" tui iiiiijsciij uui vy aecufciug me OI gross errors, j an assumption on your part at once gratuitous and immaterial, that 1 had interred that vou had applied to Mr. For syth personally, when, in fact, the appli cation had been made! for you in your own name, by Mr. Hamilton. I must say, that I tan not see in your statement the least excuse for withholding from7 me the information requested; andl am constrain ed to add, that I have looked in vain in the course which you hive pursued for the evidence of that frankness w hich you :as- ured me, lnsuDniiuing me copy ot Mr. Crawtord s letter to me; has ever charac tensed your conduct towards those with w hom you had been in the habits of friend ship. " As connected with this point, let me call your attention to a fact which has hot been explained, though in my opinion it "ought! to be.- It now appears, that when Mr. lorsyth placed the copy of Mr; Craw ford's letter in your hands, he also' placed (Qitfi tt ia codv of his letter referred to bv machinations were carrying onf against me at Nashville, or that such prof psitions could be ventured to be made! to ou, or, if ventured, without being instantly dis- closed to me. j Utthis, however, '1 com plain not, nor; do I intend to rlecriminatc ; out 1 must repeat the expression oi my 1 ... surorise. that vou should armlv to an m- - - j - i m f dividual who you knew, from! such deci sive proof, to be actuated by the most in- or irrforma- iroe 8 cabi- cqnclusive your feel- veterate hostility towards me tiqu of my course in Mr. Mo met. It anords to my mind proof that yoii had permitted ii . . i t.i mgs to.De aiieuateo Dy tne arttut move ments of those who have made you the victim of their intrigue, long! before the commencement of this correspondence instead ot turnisniug me with the ;in- tormation which l claimed, in order to a full understanding of .this extraordinary affair, and which you could not justly . Crawford. Why was it that a copy withhold, you kindly undertake to excuse ot this letter of Mr. Forsvth did not nr.- arlnni n. n lintn arrI 1 Clinnea.) j IIIC 1IIU1I iuuai IU Tl I i KJ IA j uu uuusu SUU1E I know not allusion i-, company Mr. Crawford's, when you pla-! ced a CODV of the letter in mv hands ? . allusion of mine to be made. to whonrfvou refer. 1 madej no oi n:s letter to you of the 17th p-"g upon me m the spirit ottranKuess to any oue particular individual.. But.be month': but. lolivr in I and friendship, as vou informed me vou I that oo .-.-...ir innst Trntin"m ;r . ' O v ouuiv uaw ... I . - ' : . i UO ik U1U I , iuu uw aa, V 1J ilVfr.inrp fir. n.L:.L t i, . Mir) I linH o rll,f tU.t..r I ,- ' t'i i i j v a "-ri ti ll rn u m iina rvio rn i " ? u iiviil iu iuir:i 1 1 1 rl L i: 1:1 w uuuu cri ; 1 j I . ... - UUI U I nntfiimf I , I , 1 i. . i. -l. & a ..'': . T"""' 1 lJlu receive vour letter of fu,tlu connected with the charge, and mi Uis ah iune, covermg a copy of vour let- vour Pession, calculated to afford light,! ter to Mr. letter ot the 7th June befor of the 25th of the samp i suoiects .which concern me, i snouia pre fer my judgment to yours, and, of cpurse, if 1 should not be satisfied with your opin ion, as a substitute for the faqts by which r orsyth, till the 1 4th July. would be placed in my possession; and i,rti wat i did not rppoico T-r..,r such, intact, was mvimoression. but which 1 mk w n rrm nWn - -vV t uu I - m l - mj . uui iu u J i - e I wrntA m'mp 1 tnow nna to oe erroneous. It is with rer month Istet that. I feel mrself bound to stat that yj 11 Uj l i w - . . , to use your own language that it Mr. Forsyth's letter, with the subsequent wuuiu cuicurae -trom falling !n- correspondence, has given Ian aspect to to the gross errors you have from theun- the affair very different from what 1 re- lounaeu lmerences you have drawn from ceived from your first letter. we have not space to notice, Mr. O'Con nell entered into the requisite securities, himself in 100 and two sureties io 500 each- Mr. Barrett, Mr. Steel, Mr. Key- nolds, and Mr. Lawless wero ail 6erved with the same process, aud all gavebaiL" We shall offer no decided opinion on this proceding, until we know something more of the nature of the alleged offence At present it appears to us that the Irish Government have shown more zeal than discretion in the affair. New York, March 1. By the Silas Richards from Liverpool arrived last evening, we have received London papers to the 2oth, wub Paris m m dates of 22d ult. The Manifesto of the i'olish nation opening like our own Declaration of In dependence, by a statement of its wrongs shows both a long 6eries of oppressions aud the firm resolve to submit to them no more. 4 This Manifesto and the appeal to the army proves that the Poles have now no hopes but in despair. la Belgium, the rejection of the Duke de Leuchtenberg, (son of Eugene Beau- harnois,) as a candidate for the' crown,- makes the way perhaps easier to the Prince of Orange ; though the ungracious assent of the King of Holland, to the opening of the Scheldt, and the condition al recognition of independence of Belgi um, are not calculated to add to the pop ularity of the House of Orange. The condition of Great Britain seems to us far from encouraging ; though in the recess of ranrament, wnicn wouia not aseemoie again till 4th of February, the discissions that might develope the extent of her diffi- cuitiesare wanting. The special cora- missdns for the trial, in different counties, of rioters and incendiaries, bad been brought to a close. The result, as to con mictions, was in Hampshire, iui capi- The ' Phil- Tuesday after-' defence noon, says: was read yesterday before the Court Mar- uai silting at me navy yaru, tne ursi part, relating to the first "set of charges, by Henry J. Williams, Esq. and the se cond, answering the additional - charges, by William Morris Meredith, Esq. Pres sing business prevented us from hearing it; butc are assured, by those on whom we can rely with certainty, that it was a most masterly aud complete vindication of the accused in all points; nut slighting the most insignificant of the numerous charges prefered against him, but com pletely showing that they had all been disproved, and that they must have been promtcd only by the ill-will of some whom it was recently his ill-fortune lo command. , "The court-room was filled with re spectable auditors; nor one of whom proabablyleft it without fcehng for Com. Creighton that respect in which we know him to be held by the most distinguUhid of his seniors in the service of which be is one of the most valuable officers. Mr rnNTth'o lrt-f- xr . "Jt iou cannot more sincerely regret than 1 do that anv ueiajr in iuc lumi nepnvea me ot the ad vantage ot tne statement m your letter to i?tr.-jtui.ii, c-ini mai; you aeemed it jIlnteaded probably lor the 19th July After I had so fully demonstrated the candor and sincerity with which I ; have acted throughout this affair, l;dit) not sup pose that you would reiterate your former tally convicted, of whom 6 only were left charges ; but having done so,!it 'only re- for execution ; 8G sentenced to transporta- i i I uiaius ior me io rcucttli lu "r ivai-i nou, anuuoio impnsonmeui , w wuu Yoii have stated some suggestions of the tive manner, the contradiction. .1. never terms. In Berkshire. 27 capitally convic- Marsbal of the District, which were com- for a moment disguised my sentiment on I ted, of whom 3 were leftfor execution, 20 municated to you, as the reason why you this or. any other political subject. ; by sentenced to transportation, and 3o to im havte agitated this Old affair at this time, should I in this instance ifhad violated prisonraent. In Buckinghamshire, 43 uu nave not isiaieu w nai mey were, io no uuiy no rule oi nonor, nor uuugauon capitally convicted, - ieii ior execiuon 1 whom made, or by whom communicated, of friendshin. I did your motives full! 23 KTtransnortation. or prison. In Wilt From the rf. Y. Coorier and Enooirer. Vice Presidency. In several quarters in the interior of Pennsylvania, Henry A. Muhlenburg and James Buchannan arc talked of as candidates for the Vice Pres idency to run with General Jackson. Wc find also that in Kentucky, in the weet of this State, and in several other sections of country, Richard M. Johnson is also men tioned as a candidate for the same office. In the South, we have seen Judge Smith and Col. Drayton named, and in the east, Mr. Woodbury. Now that General Jack son is fairly in the field for a re-election. it is probable that the republican parly vrill ake up the subject, in some discreet way. and concent! ate public opinion on the in dividual who may be selected as a candid ate for ice I'resident. Let it be dono with discretion and prudence. I Comfortable To these vAorn ft. A eorre- dent of the Bonner of the Constitution states, that Hz. B.'s factory in Lowell, yield a nett profit vf $100 per day. A catrtiouf gentleman estimated the neU profit f V. & B-a factoriet at $73,000 per annum. The Cocheo Fartory made a profit of $t f. 000 for tbe first six months, and $147,000 fur the last aix mouth of iu operation, and the projv-cu for the ensuing ail montha, ere tnueh more Jlc Hir ing." Ve have understood from an intelligent gentle man, well acquainted with tbe latter factory, that the whole ecuhUshment was purchased of the oil Dover Company for $750,000. Smth an income on such a capital must be quite what we call comforialU. . Sul. N. II. Mer. Smalt Pox. Various hare been the rumors n- pecting tbe existence of this disease in our own town and Countj. We are happy io being able to stale that to our knowledge it does not at pre em exist among us. it has, bowei er, preTtuira ia some degree in an adjoining County ; but the good people of that county hare taken precautionary measures to prevent iu further progress. Cutlet us not rest ia too ptat security, w bile such a di ease exits' so near us: it is oM.bl! that it may break out w ben and where we leart suf pect it- Vac cinationis the only preteniaiite cf tbisdredfuldi eae, and we waimly recommend iu use to eery one who has not aheadr arailfd Limlf with the meas of security. tAbiBgdgn Va. Kepublican.
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