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STATE COXVCTra
DEBATE
TJirtjrS"coMl ,
Article.
r. SHUllr-K asm, no wonui n n'
Mrd the Committee with any remarKt on
L subject, hoi for the kind manner in which
wrnllemail irom imnnomuo c"i-.ru
wiih me debate. While 1 am duly sen-
tf Mid Mr S of the personal compunwm
tich hebeiwiwed me, it it not ihe lew
efinjr, comma;, I hae every reason i
ee, through h:m, from the Cnmrnander
:hief ni the Militia of Nurth Carolms, o
nently qualified to notice and appreciate
itary rf,onnnlihjnnl. . U.Kere ier!lo
iililToVtufiie Toiie''ii1cf!b"v wliwiamniib"
thought ' by some, the Moravian in plain a principle, that iti to be itppr 'i- greatest magnitude . that hai ever agt-
tbTstrountfir iiiit&iiipetleJ Ito pay to
a loreign country. , v niisti spiritual
and Missionary connexion is thus kept
op, the whole machinery is, from time
to time, regulated by a general Synod,
which periodically convenes, consisting
of Delegate chosen- ythe"triffereht
Churches.: The spiritual concern of
each Church is conducted by one or
more Divines, & the immediate general
concern is guided by. a Committee of
Laymen chosen by the members ol sucu
Chui thi. The fruits of every mem-
t I t n . -
hended no one will deny it. Why then,
not test an applicant tor office on this
point? . It seems clear therefore, that if
the latter clause only was contained in
the section alluded to, it would have
remained undiscussed as. an invaluable
prttlClpte-:wBttt1hfrrf Protestant is
the great stumbling block. As appli
cable here, it appears to me, it can
have but one. meaning, and embraces
all those who believe in that memora
ble and venerated Instrument submit
ted by certain Princes of Germany to
ber's labor is hisownwM
01 me iisiaoiistimenis, certain, nrancn-i
ea of bustBess are carried on u pon w har
is called public tunua, the proltts ol
which are in the first place applied for
Church and town purposes, and go in a
great decree tu defray responsibilities,
which, but for such a fund, would have
to be met exclusively by taxation,
wliiUt the surplus, if any. are subject
to the control of 7 the Committee- of
earh particular place as far asthe re
ligious tenets of th Society are con
cerned. 'thev are, I apprehend, arene-
rally understwlto be of Episcopalian
. &ikte.tniW.Me eMSWTWlre
order. ' Deriving-. Umr-Kpicpscy
rrtin beyond-l,iUhe3,v
asainst tbe abuses J ot the latnoiic
Cbarclw -Thnt abnw -4i irxist atthaf
time, accomulatins for hundreds of
years, of the most extraordinary Kino
that tt had become a mass ol corrup
tion, cannot be doubted bv any one
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who reads the history of those times;
but for one of the abuses, I need only
advert to the shameful practice of seL
ing Induljtencies and granting Abso-
utmn. -1 hat these abuses were or
weie uot part of the Catholic faith, I
will not pretend to say, but grant that
they were powers merely assumed, and
ll . a ih.i. ftfat Muiilmipi nairl m n nihtlaT..il
n.iitTmiit imiti KiiiM-fimoe mane noror. . w ..
mention. uSiret to hi rders, it wouldi bv continual persecution from the Ca-
hp be nnreeet'try in the Convention to I ,0jc Church, a colony emigrated
the 321 Rec4.w- tne aesiiiMes oi f Moravia, and sett ed in . Saxonv.
Sitte it WeM. H.liberi'M-i und rehgmn ,m .i . ri.u ut4i.4lVi-f
bis oncert.ii.. ererv thine beinff nvi's I ,,rQ"""l'J5
.1.,rf.,,.t...r j ., T lim. htf .mii wnicn it ta inenuea. iciraeu w raiw u ,,
I ilk w 111 IB t 11 IT lirrnriM (.'uitiwi miiivIvili w .,..v i.
ef und Jhe e!iivWn bnd In qieiin gration from this colony to Englandj
pwiintc from the tK or sednn, renti-io- Amerca and eUewherej, the , Society
tiUMrtj branched oJP. In point of doctrine, t
Kiiirv. The trent!enn from Poncombe,
ererTTiiJliV cdmnirnienFrioTn Tp
bed on inyeir nit the Ufjriment I nave
honor o command, tnisect wiin H wmr
in slbidinr to the humble Society of
JrirUnt of wbirh I ant n unworthy mem-'
and very ni swblv, so fe a arttial reli
la U awereL , if.,t,,undeialac4tlH(J -SO.
fci'v, die (renipmn and myself may be on
is weltHcnown-that tlte-Sueiety -difiVrs
but littlei from the Lutheran and Me
thotlist Episcopal Church, whilst thdy
have their own particular cnurcn gov
emmcnt While all Keliiious aocie-
ttes have their peculiaritres:anrpfcju
dices, the. Moravian Society" lias" its
Inn ihe acknowledeea himelj to be ha'f 8bre. Public opinion and the feeling
pw fw!.w ( n,,, fiBintr ianfratinn nave auii si u
uu'jr-'zxxma-i.ymsffi t rww--.' . . . n
UIINVIIIIf imr- - w wnu a-
Irn I a II itiered w'nh tbeiihdeaerved per
tated society, not onl y in the history
of this country, but, sir, in the history
uf mankind. We are now about to
try the issue, whether, in the regular
ordtfat of change and revolution, to;
echo of his own voice at it reverberat
ed along the walls of hia lo'hely dun.
geon. For near nine Jiundreu years
did the world thus writhe under the
galling chain of despotism and her
twin-sister religious intolerance, ni
which the God of Nature has subject
etl not trnlyrhe materhii -world; "but f-Thstlttttime.thebopn hy-AiiH
r 1 . And beaven-buni Kmiua tired t.eni
all the inventions and institutions of
man, the principle of Religious liber
ty has attained its achme, and is now
about to taue a retrograde movement)
or whether, with all "the lights' of ex
perience we have belore us we win
ft,"-' a ndereet a - st tl r -raoee- tot ty
beacon light, fur the guidance of pos
terity, for ages to rome. Mr me is
sue which we have tu try. is, whether
(in the language of ihliill f Rights,;
alt men hive a natural and. unaliena
ble right to worship Almighty God
according to the dictates of, their own
conscience or whether, in dispens
ing those offices, which should ever be
the just reward of merits yu retjuire,
that men should cdmo op" to the con
fessional, and there sobs'tfriba to a cer-
"atlaal -ncroae nments upon 'roiYeeUtai;n;T
rcd,liw. PrfttesWwe- wih
Aim) heaven-born rroiu bred (ene aon.f
A bare , recital of -the dtfBcuUies,
misfortunes and persecutions of Co
lumbus,' are enough to wring the heart
of every true American.' "lie had to
encounter not only the ijrftorance, but
which nresunoosed the rotundity -of
the earth, was denounced.as visionary
and heretical, by tluise agents of 00
pression which then did, as they do
still, wield the destinies of Spain.
At length, he surmou ft ted -.every ob
stacle, unj immortal jglory crowned his
efforts. " :y'r-:: - ; r:- "v"'":
For nearly one hundred and twenty
vears after the discovery of America,
no permanent settienn-nt naa yet oeen
UDiiip(i dv tn at counirv. irwm
wlietic"'ou
inay, sir, this is the real issue., uan
liivCjmUteifaffw
, ,,v. . ... .. ... .. . - , ' r .. . ..1 p. nnn ..... -a I
abuses anV purity .Uveir . UhurciH-aimmut meim
that t Toad a gMd elTccf, every enfight- sinning before us, with all the pre
ened Catholic in our days will-not de- cepts of history to enlighten us,- and
y
in conscience
A sincere CaHholic therefore, may ) with the example of that liberal ytein
.n.i .i. i that h whicn is nervaumT me wonu unuic
e
tshed cent
elevate bis own Church to its true char-ouibe) to tnp the Ut 01 m coyi,
, :-; i. -r . 1 and strike me torcn ni nn.nu
. wl:uU.i... W,.t"ik'riith.' of oe'rsecation? : Sir, "if hitoryl)e
11 11 aw w K iuivc ovwsa -- IM L..4
4iXUiircU4twe,iv4a-iKli4
... ... . I . 1 . .1. 1 ........ K .. n ,a
u....i m rum rit,.o art tn exainuitrs ue luniis irs. m
t. t. . .t 1 - -3 - Fi - ..- . . .
we know that the. fi
head of that Church
did frequently arrogal
neriiiirtv in temuoral concerns.
ike. CiviL Authorj
Teiifftfii al band of ptlzrims, who hail
be 4bMiiiig'tl" r
B'plslottiUaerjM.m;
.. r.r r . ; r.. t . -.1
privilege 01 vwarsnipins.ju!vt';
fnW to Uie dictates of their own con
sciences, looking over- the - wide dissolved, bigotry
science as well as of person. So we
see in that Consrtitutiot. which was
adopted by the 8tates of this Republic,
and which so happily, allayed , all the
angry elemental ot strife' and faction
which threatened to engulpli iu ruin
that liberty, which had just been pur
ehawed at-Mtrieein!that
Constitution, is contained the princi- .
pie, the glorious, principle of religious
toleration and freedom of opinion. In
the Sd taction of the 6th ; Article, of
the Constitution of the United States, . '
tWcf'tclulti3:.ai a quaMca. '
o-!tt office or public trust under "
U.titetl States; And"hy the" a-
meridment to the Constitution, with
out which North Carolina refused to -entertnto
the. compact, it is still
further provided, that "Congress shall
make no law respecting an establish- .,
mcnt of religion or prohibiting the
fi ee exercise thereof J Sir, this co-
vers the wlioe groundr-this is the "
creat arcanum in the seience ofgov-
ernment which had so long been con
cealed from the world and I insist
thayhe. rccngoition. oLihia priuriple .
in our fundamental law of. this right
irfTefrnotrri"
epmv i t.U history plsocial gnerii
meoUairiwt spU: vUkh f liini liail -
held the world , in bondage,, was now . .
continent of Europe and discovering
no countrv. where ryranny anu su-
wa:
. .. . 1 . . ...... .M..-t..j. wn H n - iniramnr
-the-ottrcrnaj rTy the iw e oppresmoH . u...,-,. .v .
lamtf. - frnm lilin. I 'l'1 I"" jmi"'hv ... .... .
DU, ; reusioua
of the- Western world.
persecution fas the genlleitian frooHpinion, guaranteed to man. But, sir,
Pope? who U t!ie proy? Jhat the progress of .Religious
, in former days liberty has not been commensurate
ate to himself su- with that of CiviUibertjand Jhat
cTaiui- Religious intolerance has ever oecu
athorithe handmaid of Despotism! A slight
ml comprmeni .f tlw renlteman. I. at the tionj in such a State of things. It
ne time, tamed the aeid eoneyrd in the fV-ared by many of its members, that
ertrnrd pid. lt wn.iid .eem, 'thit whilst removing what is . thought mere pecu
some others are in a state of abroga
ot things, it is
jn
PCCUli:
i f.ilw.i: tnia.fi. ha rS'Ii rliannsvn 1 - . .
1. i:..u i..U. in whtrh 1 H,lumr.M reUl iniUtarV XlUiy except III vase -i iiiu
n w-. .T . -1 - . ... ..... ,
m anme other iinnreierUmir denomma. ion. or insurrection. natever may
L, iimler the latter ctaitae of the aertion Uiava been the conscientious feeling of
q.irtion,whi' h ecMcl-tlinM! wtn .-iioui.
: T v.i r. ... r cl.i. n f f ..h h 1 villein iimiBuiii rei""n' ....
' . . , . -ii I M ...... m .1 4l.f iliAfttftkrA thnv mnV0il
liaVld such docirinea. It i mia'aVen an exclusive privilege without a proper
j fwa, however, if it ia tnoiiRnt uvm una o f ause ,a privilesc whrcti was certain
itr hld aurh prmctplri heeanae it ia an . ,, i 0h1,lwt,Pil an far na
a .. . . I 1 T 17 1 V VlflllVlll . llt'ui'l'H"!
nfM nnl.it in th-ir fn(. Ihftt in WnftieT! , i.
kmentr lot i. cahev.haUe es- the Moravian society concerncoj ano
k..v.... ..i .iia-..rw. m ih r;;H wliili- I hone that the society may con-
wrrnment iindrr which they lire and which tinueta flourish, long aftee I sliall have
.a .... . j j- Jurn: i . w t . ri . ar
re tnffn profectitm, nn nw in ...i , nwn , arms, anu lonz aner i
and tie pres'ent excellent commander
in Chief of the Militia of North Caro-
ina shall bs no more, I am satisfiedr
ties, and as the pretended Vicegerent retrospect ot the history ot the worm.
of tJtifisv "receiving submiRSion iroin wm yemj inc. uum-w
Khsli nfr" Potentate
J harmony with other Helij;ioua perana.
The sor.ielv 'IVI countr. Eira
hii'e ni where. Voluntary contribution!
i fiwine"1" wetlej, r.ot to maintain a
endid Itrlitfiooa F.tahlilnnenr, here or
wbefe."or to maintmn "a heart of ihe
trch of Clersrvman in liuory and iaiene.
il to nromnte the ft'maionarv . canne. For
r.h it. in fart, their firimurr intention, and
ie vei v obiect for which they formed a So
tyt llOt IO Ca II Willi wnrr uciiiriMin.1
btract nrincirdea of Itelinion. and to
ilisneiitiim, but to preach t,hnat to Hie
.ikn n.tiiiiia. Uoon Ihta onnCinle. it l
e,
those dark days, there were- frequent causes which induceit man to enter in
between the rope ami tne t' civu society mc jimnnwni .".;'
Ay il An tho it t ies lor su prem a cy.
Buncombe informed us the other day)
gave the first impetus to the settlement
of these freeamrftnpnr-fcwesr- Mtt
Clnirman, of all the events which
have transniretl from the bnrinninz of
the world tlotyn to the present Jtfme.
there ts not one which ..contain more
moral erandeur, more sublimity, than
Th at pf cs? n ted by;the-d epar tre F the
ri l snrns tor these sava gt- an ore v sir,.
behold -tavern about to-t a r-theinselves
from the Und that cave them birth.
about to sever all the tender , ties; of
The weak against the strong, -induced
. -.:. . V"r;:--.i?--w ihn suiiurrnii uiuso ,iiiiu4uhi., --,but,
assumption el power since ma c.orr .---" - " - relation a which bdl man -to his fel-scribivthfreVdom -of conscjenre
motion, became less ami -tess active, ep,,vnrj . r,, ... ;. - - UvrMn ; ,,, .umtvean ' ik- IV.II -nf-RWhtsr .nr,hatirall de-
pruicitMesirwnien -r-"- - , - , j -
they will always be found in rank,
should occasion renuire, fizhtinz for
their countrv.its liberties ami its laws.
Mr. President, so far as the subject
upder consideration is . concei-hed, it
annenrs to me that the S2d tectton
should i)C retained unaltered, or if at
tered at all, very slightly and this I
1.. , r.trnnrrllf Cm I d IllllteO IDI BHlltllCU III IHB u lllllun .&
ehrenj r MnieljjindtMJfJfOi wW jhdjpnojjl
eirrocienea in r.irpe, wnawm r...v..- ,n o represent, wnoso
y form a small mimoer ' VnnMnration h
Irrd comparpd wi n OMier aonom oauo... . fnnatlr.a.r mav be
h,l vmiw lfinolheirflournliiiieliaaiona. .-'..
r.ttubliahmrnta amonett the Hollentotaam
n.i. In Afrira ibev aie tikewite to be rhnno-e sentimentt and it does appear
nuiid amonesi the Indian in America, the n tne. that a country is inva better
reenlander and LsqinmaHS. me weRroJ .Wn.tinn t tlfltrV th rfefaift 6f Super
tMlf iCTtrtllJ; ,v with . de?r . tincture of
..if..i A.n.ni!t nr., .Ml I ImiMPIITT. I BUI U1IC Ul I'
r 1.11,111111:111 ii7..j ... . i - j - e a. ut W A
reowi far eeding rdinrf ontrtbtt-J aofl t who would vote for art established
tm, to
I the
i.i,f it nnii left iiRnnanart to ?ive it uiable rilits and
the most fatal blowi yet that this pow- has caused the world so murh blood
er may not be'assumed again, wnen a ami treasure 10 rcgaui. w v......
fair onnortttnitv ofiers. is by no means val with the first organization of those
.iJ e.,ki .n.l wakiikeen-stdttfttlttl-Govtrnmttrt which "were
Ifimi'li ..-mvi. i" i- - . ... 4W.t I. .
mtwer. Give it nlav. and it will tram- reared on the banKs w tne r.opnrates
file upon rinht. Tllis will not merely and the Nile, was the exercise ol Ues
apply to the Pope, but give power to potic .ower over the persons
any other denomination, and it would, of menwhile a crafty Priesthood
in all nrohability. be abused. ' c'aimed the controul of those relations
iti r... t, .i.. nf rti;rinn which existed between man and his
ek..-tlw- Prntnstirntsjfiince the re- Godr hile" in theirjsons t
r.;s..T.-T.J"V.i7r.m"W T ,li vldpilTntn an. serverbut "as instruments for the
mn vt jn.imiiintiniia and so diversified eratifioation of .tyranny and ambition
in their religious not ions, that no dan- in the temples of Isis and Osuis, were
rr t Sa tn ftn tk nnt(Vt Artlf tt I ft' ft III thimso forced the fetters which enshackled
fe a a h.,r r.ivil Institutions are con. their minds. Ifwe come still further
n witk'ikR Catholic down the history of the world, and
LCI ,... ,r i
Church that appears to move along in look at Ureece-tnat ungiH cume oi
mv.A vh.i.nT Tk.itiker are indi- battle and ol son" we see a new era
I - - ' . . , I 1
!.i...i.: .i. r.tut;. nmrrh nf in the historv tit man. ' iiere ne nas
VlllUUlit III I'lC vaiiioiiv v-.v.. -- ---, i . , f
m.,1, fervid nietv ai nerhans in any .burst asunder the fetters of tyranny
other, is not denied, .and that they arc and walks ever in the consciousness .
Il .1 li.l tn nnr inf ifnlinna. from Ireci om. lliouzn nis minci M bum en
which oothinz would make them ! veloped in the clouds of bigotry an
. ii'firc .... Kuril. ,nifvii,nis. it n nni'nru jsii uni blluuii. aivi.w t .""."j
i intiain tne ce. n w ,,r,:,r" tjhurcti and compel tne peopie 10 sup
very formation of ihe Society, thai . . , h-rMn(t , m.t(er of his-
r.ern.aiient meaos would nave io bell' . . llBf aK! -.
ahdbv""b!on'arycpnTttbutlpn an
pinre
neirea1
iraiieaia. a fund waa raiaed for that purpoe
hnictt ia continued to. be aepi upt wnue
r?e turns of money were frequently bOr
tnwrd in anticiption. When the Moravian
'blihed themsel.es in .North Carolina,
irge body of land waa prel'ieil in inw
minirv.lhrniih the medium of funds rail-
.4i(t,jEprop,fo" ..i'fOaa.f-aAiaUMnjr
j ne ,niaiooiM:y iuae u(.pjrci aq japipip
R firat place; to dischancr hie ilrbt contract
id in iu purchase, or audi odier debts to a
"Tfe amount, contrasted by tht Society in
T.rope. where St waa firat eyablished ill the
?wn rv. Moat of the land hat from time to
'me. been aohl at an advance price on the
Jfirtliase money, and the proceeds applied
f payment of ihote debia, except tuch part
wrfor Uiaaionarv nurnnara at eneencira
pqulrcd. The whole amount ..of the. drbt,
at ihia timt. it 'thnoKht not lobe dia
fthirei-d ihe balance ol the land remaint aa
i tund for the nurnoee. : It it true, tne neaii
jot thit MU-ionary Inttitulion, is at this lime
frfibfuhed in Germany. the moat central
i Point to the different branchet, and the Mis
wary Eatabliahnieuta, now contittins; of one
jWd. but of 8 or 10 peraons, from lime to
ne ctioaen by the Society wno nave m
Itweral management of the concern, with
"ftnehti and aa-enta in this country, sod
hilt occasionally, aome of the proceeds of
ihefund are itanamitted to Europe, to ub
the pious cauae. much of Ft is applied
(hit country to toatain Miadont imotir the
Indiana, to tup port superannuated deriry1-
Kca, to educate their children, and to aid
1g men who have not the meant, in their
fSucation. orenaratorv for the Miniairv. It
"a bright feature in this Society, and worthy
"once, that their Clerpymea thall not la
00for the purpoae of byinp Op wwrldly
vrea.. -v tiilst in srrvicc, they obtain
waniy aalarv. sufficient for a mere' aunnort.
"hlhe aaiiiranpr. thai ll.rv ahall nnt want
old age ovenakr a them, and that their
""Wrea ahall ba taken care of and educated.
So much for the tribute, which it is
at length
strinbed of her cowl." and supersti-
iion-ilinl tn'the iTghiinrtiflilgfiir """"""
1 n-pearl r-lT the : Stat e Consti tu
tions which were adopted ; sbout the
same period, we find the same riijlit
of conscienre, tha same freedom of
yes, sir.
ftr faul
in our own excellent constitution
sirV excellent I say, for with all
Its,-1- love i t r stil I'1-art- tha t
venerably instrument which reflects
so much glory tipon that band of pa
tiiots who- framed it, - we- find - a pro-
vision which experience has taught s.
conflicts wit'i the spirit of that liberty,
which it jvasH heir purpose 7.t7:aeuf"i
fo "osr aprovision ' winch conflict
..arith -the-'Iihcral pirit..'.'nt-theage.,IL
am induced tn K-lieve with the dis
tinguished gentleman from Buncombe,
kindreil-an! home, about to rend a-; that it is a libel upon our fathers to "
. . . . .., .i,i......i .-...m--t .--ct --ir'rr',I--r-r.'i X? !....:'
mat mey intenueu to rircum-
tor T
the boaom of an unknown ocean to dares, that "all men have a natural
brave the fury of the elements,., for the j and unalienable -rilt to worship Al-
purpise of seeking a home not ; jtre- milityJGoil . according. ta -the d elates
scnting the"ame" stimulus for "perse..' of their own conscience.', , Sir, I
vei ance, as did the promised land to , know not how the, provision contained
the Hebrew Pirgrims of old not in the 3 '2d section got there whether
ilk and honey" as that h was through a pin ue of : retaliation
"flowing with m
lid but tenanted by savaseg and
beasts of prev. Sir,"whst must have
. ' . .. i. r.- . I.. m. n.l
nppn tne r 11 t. wiiuu. nnvr i"m
between the Clergyman and , the
Delst,(as3as . been ugestet)j.r
whether it was intended .to.be restened
ik Sunreme disnenser of all irood their
grateiul adorations, in tnat way which
accorded 'with the dictates of their
own consciences?" But Sir, the his
tory which that gentleman went on to
give of that infant colony, 'affords an
apt illustration of the weakness of poor
human natures and of the tardy pro
gress which man has made in wresting
his rights trotn the grasp of lyianny
and sunerstition. aid in ; cultivatinz
and nerfectinr the priociples of liber
t j?iJNu sooner had that infant looyr
A Harmodius own
tft tnereanntjt-hesitate- in - saying lhat, had peopled
there is truth in the Protestant relision. with some p
iThe section under consideration fluence over
then, has done no harm. It has been was death to gainsay.
a part
foT
Tteli
w 1 .' Th.
'n tncrtrin vraav n r l tw - v. - i npniiie niri c.v . vk vi v -
tkpn ilistorb it? to strike from Socrates: hi? c.u.m).roua
I rent. rail it sunerstition if vou ,chain3,
please, yet it appears to tne it is that. from his lips. Sir; that great jnan t
kindntsonerstitionzhilOehdOoi
d every srovc and grotto he happy auspices of religious
presiding Deity, whote (. ' Tre'oinitab1ldthem
r the destinies of man, it firm footing, with the wounds ol the.r
r rt ....i- r. Bi . .,...1,1 K. t.tnn.l .uintl-nBA rplll I rninl I V oai. HI i"i
ni nor i.nnKniuiion tor au ran vuw us . . . . . .
. . . ' t .1.. i r-,- i heaiii anu intolerance
thasstoou a Deacon to aspiraiua-iiuiii 'c--.iv - v. -
. -.i-. ..." ! k..l.n..n..lil Kdnnrl... hi- U'lll. I IWKV.' ' . .
oince.as an axiom mat we prwc.uua . i f;ftWnU
a . 1 1 . t a . . nvua ba tna B9twm ni unnrariiiiin i - v aav,. . -
ion, anu tens tne worm we are .iv.o..v..., . . f i- j,
' :;:5fehain,; snatch the no Soned chalice pa Ofexile, yet tiley tnougnt u net-
7 I . ... S . r i , . o:.. .a
pd. be it of an v denomination, its pow
ers ae aoon abused,- and Religion is
prostituted to ihe most enwbrthy pur-
poieav-'-OC ch abuses - we - ha ve;i a
bun;lant evidence.as faf as the Church
of Knnland is crtiicerned, interwoven
am entirely satisfiedrhatXarcluAad
State should be kept asunder, it apj
pearitome.it has nothing to do with
me ijomiuii uii", - -
We are not called upon to adopt edicts
of proscription the mere question a
bout qualification for .... office is, under
. .. l ita an.MiaW
consideration." in a ciinsn wmnii
like our own, where law and every ruie
of action, as it appears to me is found
ed upon Religious pnnclipies, it real
ly would seem, that those who are call
ed upon to administer the laws, or to
execute them, should believe in Divine
precepts. What does the section un-j
Ar rnnaidoratinn SaV? "That PO per- j
aonwhn sJiall deny'Oie bcin of V1,
or the truth of the Protestant Iteligton,
or the divine authority either of the
old or new Testament, or -who noius
religious principles incompatible witn
the freedom and safety of the State,
shall be capable of holding any office
or place of trust or profit in the Civil
department within the State.1, That
a person who holds any principles in
compatible with the freedom and safety
of the State, should be entitled to of
ft.. nnsirinn which has pot yet
been asserted In the progress of -this
debate nd is, ai it appears to me, so
strengthen our free Institutions. As
st present advised, I shall vote for no
amendment, believing it has not de
prived the State of any talents in it
ofikera. antLr xcluded. note conscienS
tiously entitled heretofore to a Partici-1
iStlotf,aBtItff i
it operates in fact only on sucn ue.
nowiMtibniiTM fcirtaVl1igioTraew
i n com pat ib' e with our free institu
tions, and who owe superior allegiance
toi some foreign Power. Such, I
fhink-. should be excluded, whether
it srolies to the Society ...to .which.!
. . . - v. .i i- . . .n.
belong, me Vainoiics or uj wuic.
Denomination. .- ' " '. '
... Mr. RAYNER - said Tlie only
nnlnrrv. Mr. Chairman, I shall offer
for obtruding my views on the Com
mittee, is, the very great importance
of the subject now under, considera
tion. Being one amongst tne jouhr
- . i i .i ......
est members oi mis noy, anu am
. I I.-. 4l.A n n rrrr rrf. t (
wisdom of the State, 1 nave nimeno
forborne to take any part in the varied
discussion which has been going on
m, and it is with extreme
diffidence, that I now presume to offer
a single remark on this important mat
ter. But, sir, the duty which I owe
i r a,.ii aa that unicn i owe
II1J9CII, n , H
my constituents, requires that I should
briefly state the reasons which govern
me in the vote I m ,about to , givei
tr.J Chairmann conceive, that in
the issue which we are now about to
try, is involved a principle ot the
ter to die by the tomaha
4.tirt,s a 4 or serve as food
. " ... jL..;, r. I neraectttioa from their own kindred
luiisi-iriibir. ... ! ., mi o: ii . !,,
tr i ..i. ..M:ui.;nn nan. i nu . leiiow-niaii. a oir. u - accm, iimi
a, " o r-. i k.l... . . i. ..:-. I 4
ple who from' a small colony on the man nM u ,r,. iW,U
r -i . - .i r.: ..-.i. t. . u I mv nf intpl lectual Or moral l
S 01 tne tmer, exienueu .meir . , . V , , , V. t'
fediotW voysge; fly..w thunder to use the figure -
the Kock nl rlymoutn, to oner, up to ot the gentleman irom txancej to db
hurled at tne nerctics anu scmsmatics
of after times: I fay, it is immaterial
what may have been the cause of its
first. Insertion there it I sumnent
for us to know that it t there; and
one of the sujijects which the' people '
in laeir SiiveretKO majesty, nave coiiuu
ed to thcMliscretion of this Conven-
tion, is the propriety of amending that
at tide. Sir,: for one, I war opposed
to touching .that Constitution which
tiurfalheift '.framed &t the - hazard of
4theiriivesrI wished toxherish it; ;"
1 . A n . i . a
a monument ot revolutionary painoi
ism; --na a relic f revolutionary wis
dom, I conceived that it was the
work of men, whose minds were free
from the. parrow. prejudices- and sec '
tional jealousies of modern times, and
that, as such, it should be kept sacred
and inviolable from the rude and reck
less hand of innovation. : Sir, that
C6'n8t!ro'tioftn.asel.ll.caU'tdatctU
to secure the blessinas of civil liber-,
hawk" of thejjy, asany:j.h.J
fof bcasfs oTicould tlevise. With Jhe.gentlemao1,-
n-oiFCarteret, T am ready to declare,
that with me, the S2J section was the
only objectionable feature in It, and
even with that, obnoxious ns it is, I
should iiave preferred it to any we
persecution hardly healed, than
raided ner tiorgon
resumed" her
ilderness afford -
oppressed, and
aitnouar counttcss . Hangers neset tits
that de.
improve-
UaMt.
uau
- - a . w i i mAti r urnirn hiitiiiipii ii i its ia isfii 117 in i n i sra raj iikmit if a iiutn:ii. m ni'iirvuiir ii
empire irom tne piuarw. nr-iicrcutcj, r - . : . . .v.. -Mv-M-Ai.iiEsw.-.---..". .v ..-.
. had not tausnt our out tne uie nas oeeo cast, .tne crisis
unrivalled-eminence tn-arts.-acience
and arms, which have stamped their
name with never-ending glory, an-un-wiivirinn
devotion was stilt rcnuircd
to that numberless host of Deities who
were supposed ,tttr preside : over the
a -a . . i
ilestinics . oi the ."eternal city.
Whilst her banners were Boating in
evcry.breetea-And-heLeaglea soaring
in everv SKV, her victorious uenerais
.jears
forefathers,- that to insure happiness,
the mind must be left unfettered and
free. f - ,ri'...v-r- ? . ""
But Sir, the principles of the Revo-
lotionthe r seeds of whidi T .were thus
early sown, gained apace, and the
same sword which severcu tne Donus
of our union with the mother country.
rut the Gordian knot which had so
J - . I 7 Y i i t .1.. i..t.l
were yet enjoined to convey to the l long Damea me wisuom ui mo wwiii.
temples of Jupiter, Hie cpima tpolia of which had so long united the Church
every land. ,.'W to the States In the struggle for that
With the destruction of that rair Treeuom wiiicu we now ujot,
bv those found fichtini. shrtulder to shoulder,
Northern bwbaoaoijEh
ill-fated country, civil as well as re- creed. The Presbyterian - of New
ligious liberty seemed to have deserted Englanti, the viiaicer oi renn.yivan.a,
the earth. .When those ruthless in- the Catholic ol Maryjand, the Baptist,
vaders had established themselves in the Episcopalian and the Method..
the conquered provinces, tyranny were an louuu engageo-m c...u.u..
sain resumed her empire, and called cause, leagued together by the same
to'her assistance the monster, super- sense of. one common danger, and
stition. All the learning. extant, was shedding meir Dionu oj one t oii....i.
en-n-ossed by a wily Priesthood; the love ol lioerty. Dir. toe peculiar ..-.ii.-..j'M.,.frmim.
of tk I nr of that eventful strussle convinc
Gospel were perverted to the purposes cd the heroes and lage? of that period,
oa most unrelenting pcrse:ution, and that to ensure to , their posterity the
. - - - 4 It a An rannni. tn inftliail UPIlc!liLin iiicir laimo. nici
groans of the oppressed was the hollow J guarantee unto them freedom of con
musT'Be'inen"itndtinarffinff--out'ihe-
principlcs of Reform, wilf you muti-;
late the most sarred provisions of that
venerated Instrument and, .retain tie - -only
one, which is at least a century,
behind the improvement of the age?
I have heard theHdea frequently
advanced, both here and putof doors,-
that we should beware what we: do, s
lest we off;r too great a shock to our;
ex:sttn institutions anu too great
cause of excitement to the public mind,
Sir, I am surprized, I am indignant to ,
hear such argument as this come from
the,. snare? . whence itldoes.,,: Whero .
was the pretended sorrow for the fate
of our ancient institutions, amid the,
havoc of Reform which has lately been
oingon? ' Have we not seen some of
the most important provisions oi that
Constitution, hallowed by, so many
sacred associations, 'swept awty, one
after another, by tho tieiom ol innova
tion? Have we. not, i say, seen our
venerable Constitution despoiled of its
fairest proportions ftod, like the ini
mitable Sfatuti of Washington (to ue
the beautiful idea of the gentleman
from Carteret) toi-u to pieces, limb by
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