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7--?trsS--"J -1 ' 'rt-TTV.TTI 1 rJJ. rO uunuiiiii u itii Fill D AY j A U G UST 13, 185 2. , Broab River Association. In the Recorder of Not. 1, 1851, there is an. article having reference to - the aboye-mentioned ' Association. Will the writer of that article please send us his name?- We had it : at the time, but have 6s.': . ' f' f . ConYentioaDebt. : . , - " f f Wethank our broUelrioris manifestation of in : - terest in the Home Mission cause. We haye'up to me present time, received pirty-nmeTJollars towards the payment of the Convention Debt. - Twelve more such letters as brother M. B. has written, will make ff up the amount pledged by is. Tio will sendus ' another "God in his Providence has taken from us . the indefatigable Agent of the Convention, bro. Jones. "He rests from his labors and his works follow him." Let us who remain, endeavor by increased activity, ' to make" up for his lossfj While i we feel; anjntense . interest in the welfare of the heathen, let us not for get those in our own State who are destitute of the preached gospel. ' ' -s Trcalncnt of a Delinquent Paston ? In order that the brethren, who were present at the v Councif tailed by the Salem churd may. see tthat we are not alone in our views of discipline, we copy from an excellent work which every. Baptist ought to own viz i Crpwelrs Church. Member s Manual, -r. Ought a minister who has been; silenced and ex pelled, to preach again, if restored to the church 1 It is probable thatthe interests of religion would be best promoted by hi3 remaining in a pi irate station. At least, in regard to one crime, the rule should be Invariable and inflexible. - A minister convicted, of fornication, while holding the sacred . OfSf e, should never be allowed, in any circumstances, to assume the functions of the ministry again.; If a church is stronely of ODinion that one who has been silenced and expelled for 5 an offence of a milder cast, and again restored'- to . fellowship, on repentance, ought to preach, it nas tne power 10 license mm ; ana a council, properly convened; may. if it sees fit, ordain him. He is a private member, and without such li cense and ordination he certainly ought not to preach. A council called for this purpose ought to be large, and should be composed of men of wisdon and expe- page 253, Sect, 6, the following extract, we hope, the Sprachenhalle and gave our readers a that our readers will give it a careful perusal. ; description of it. . How suitable an , abiding-pl y . Presents to Colleges.' : t v,; The following, which we cut from the N Y. Re corder, gives a pleasing instance of liberality, that we think' ought not to be forgotten by the friends of education. '. PJiSJ - -: We hope that the patrons of Wake Forest College will manifest their interest in' thisjiourishing institu tion inla 'si milar manner. "i?" y--i r A book presented to the library of a College is placed in a situation where for many years it may benefit 'the worldfcP SQ! How. many valuable works "forever lost to the world, because retained in private libraries, had they been presented WVome' Institution of learning would now -hei exerting an influence both extensive and beneficial. s , -"-- ' AS IT SHOULD BE. :.v ., ' - 1 A few weeks since. we spoke bf the pleasure which had been afforded us in the examination Of a copy of brief ace it rf ""' ia everything which relates to morals ana Lfirisuan fuurc? ui; gmuuwjw... ;v""' character. ?Iis station entitles him to respect, and indebted for this interesting addition to its to caution in receiving charges againstrhim, as will thegenerosity of our friend and f el low- addition to its library to - - - - .- r ii i ina irannrnciru fii nil r- i iri 111 . iiiii irriiii vw ! vw iixiiiiii. 1CVUV1UC VUOIiW uiM " I - y " - . i - t soon be ehownt but not to exemption from needful H. H. Lamprt, bq., oi tne nrm 01 yornisn lmpon discinline. , Even the Arjostle Peten when called to Kt-o., 1 arK fJace. account bv tne brethren of tne churcn in. Jerusalem. Valuable uonatwn io tiib uauiKit ofthe : ( Acta , 1 of which church he was a member, I Rochester .Theological Seminary. H. H. Lam- claims no official privilege of exemption ; s but pleads 1 port, Esq.; of.NewYprk.cityr has presented ; to the ' hi3 case before "them byJ an array of facts and ar-f seminary a copy of the "Sprdchenhalle.'1 or the Lord's pmriMts. '-. And tne cnurcn at n.nnesus was praiscu i Kraver in eieni nunareu ana iouneen laniruaees ana for having " tried them who : say they -are Apostles, dialects. This, work, it will be recoUected, was pre and are not." Of the same nature is the. direction of pared with great care and labor at the Imperial print 'Paul to the ' churches in- Galatia to proceed at once post in, Vienna,' for exhibition at theVorld's Fair to the excommunication of their- false teachers,; who m London. - it excited so much attention there, as a were leading them astray. s " would they were I specimen of printing, and on account of its" inherent even cut on wracn trouDie you o : vz. Ana mis value lor the purposes ot comparative . pniiology, thev were to do in the exercise, of their Christian li-1 that a few copies have been put on sale for public berty v v 13. " i libraries."' , A a triumph of the art of printing and of li tne pastor is guilty oi a scanuaious siu, iue j pnuoiogicax learning, ii .is wunout a ; parauei in me church have power to investigate the: facts,; and ex- world. ; It is believed mat this i the third copy that '- dude him from fellowship. - But this is , not all that j has been received into" the United ; States.' ' It is a the case requires. For although it is plain that il matter of gratihcation to see works of this character ,he is unfit to be a church. rnemner ne is unwortny to accumulating ixi: the new institutions in, mis city, at be a minister, - yet, as the agency of the presbytery this early period of their history.. . We trust that they was called in to invest him with the ministerial of- will be remembered in this" way ;by - others, as well fice, it is equally- necessary in order to devest him J as by the donor of this beautiful and valuable work. lv reauired the consent and agency of many church- . i . . w ----- .. - I ii - i - k es to do : and if;a presbytery, orcouncilrcomposea t ssf-i - f queries of tne pastors ana eiaersoi omer cnurcnes,- is in any m. m f- -. - urn m :1 i il " sense necessary to ordain a man to to the minister!- . ... , r. -r. . , , .. r om11 8eccfsarr-lai thl!Tl!d! the testimony of converts and baptize without per - m imiii in nnipr ii iihih iiiiii iiiiiii ii ' iiiiri - . x - - - - . . ... . . " ""1. In w rf Has the Slate Convention of North Carolina a right i;in? &: fundamental- IawresTiertinff the con- "" "'S' .? ferrtnTof office is, that the same rxer mar unmase. ; ; . A council should, therefore, be first calledtor m- and - baptize candidate?, and compel any bntnch of tne cnurcn to receive tnem .?- vestigate charges of delinquency, against a minister. drother iobet:-i sena you me aDove queries, Tt is ri?ht that everv man: should be tried by his and hope you wi l answer them, in your next is- 'lr U KaWp- n brono-ht against him rela-l6ue. ana I should be gl 'lad to hear from any of 'the tins: to" his official character. ' -. i li Thi Rnnnd irpnera.1 oretnren in answer to the above. .principle is peculiarly applicable to ; the minister of uy so - doing, you will oblige and - instruct many . the gospel. And If he deserves to be deposed from oaPusia VVSf S'Tf DKIN: tne ministry, naexpeiieu irom ine ,cnarcnr P:rHfAlegularly ordained minister has . a right to bap- ted of his official character, the church can proceed, ,e any persorwho may give him reason to believe : withouUembarassment, to his expulsion from fellow- that he has. been truly converted. But the responsi- -ship. This course should always be taken, unlessa 1 bility of deciding is very great, and few , ministers pastor i gumj ui sttuuojum w, ui uvU wouii ystx to bear this repponsibility alone; ; If a .loll proof: in which case the church may expel him t tt, :: -------: - a , rf rf , -wwL --;i Ar 5vm i,i farthful minister ever baptizes a person without re- ministnvand thus the ; melancholy affair is ended. fierence 10 acnurcn,.it is Decause mere are some cir But such an exception to the general rule rarely oc-1 cumstances connected with the church, which make curs, if ever. :.A 1 -. ".'. .- . -. - it undesirable for the new convert to join that church ' only body by whom he can properly be tried and de- candidate previous to his baptism a promise to join " i '. ' z ' i ' r - . i -I. . I . . .': t. I. ..'. 'il nri . .t f , poseaj or m . any way ;punisnea, it ; lounu guilty some cnurcn as soon as pos$ioie. xue auinoniy to :v xma mey suppuse is necestsary w me preserYauuu yt baptize, the minister receives, not from the church, cuurcu muci-enueuce. ui but from the commission given by his ascended Mas- for by . the same argument they may prove, with . . -, . . , , b - . . - v - ; lnsvonA that par h rhiir.h must nrlamlter. The vote given by a church on the reception of 1 - . - - . -.1.- : ' ' ? ' : - j- iL'V - - . its ministers wimoui me agency cr, co-operation oi ja canaiuate, is not a permission to me luuusier iu other ; churches, or abandon its independence. The I baptize, Cbnnan assurance that thehch will receive ,TK vKnKi. nAanAannti v wrWh ;fe u I ueve him to .be a trulv converted .'person.- : l he rr- ! - of discinline over all its members, the nastor-inclu-icaurcn ougnt not to receive a candidate with a eer- y.i ded ; because the jurisdiction of the council in such tificate that' he has been baptized without first' hear f - ; casesextendsonlyto the minister's office, not lo hi ,-ng his relation of religious experience: If they are :.j r church membership. A council may depose him - . ... ,r. , -.- . .. , J . I : fc - .1;- ;i ?! tl "I I'; from the ministry, buthave no ri-ht to exclude him bausueu ?llu llua not 10 re from the church. . f ' ; ; ' r' . ceive hiffiinto fellowship.- r - , ;jviucn injury to religion migni te prevented by - . No person can compel a regular Baptist church .to strictly -adherim to this rule, the propriety of which 1 v - ,' - . . ,, l -. - : is so 6bvious. Whatever charees are made aeainst 'Vve ,e"ue-"ltu !1"VVS,:'I'-&" mus? 06 ; a minister, theyIie, first, against his ministerial char- received by a junanimous vote of (the members present acter: ine nist quesuon, tnereiore,is, wnetner. ne ! at trie meeting.. The Baptist state Convention autho- uaB.jurieiwu uiai cuaracicr, ,xuc mupc ttUv.iv,.tj, . no Missionary to preachy io receive candidates, with the office. If the church proceeds first to ex- or to baptize.- It simply promises to provide for. the elude him from fellowship, he is still a regularly au- support of those whom it sends forth, except in those thorized public teacher of religion. This office was cases where by a stranee anomaly it reauires them ' given to him not by oae churchut by many church- to rely on their field of labor for support The au es ; therefore one church cannot deprive him of it.- thority to ' preach and to baptize is conferr'ed by a 'This office he holds, not in virtue of being a chureh . . , r - : , . wUlcllcu ujr member, but : in addiuon to it... As he may be ; a "".r?" . ;: - . i "church member yet not fit to be a minister, so he may I We expect that the traenes are a sort of "thrust is ; - ' "; be deposed from the ministry though not unfit to be the dark" atcftafyj.but .who that JVome&oJ'is -;w - ' - -- a church member. If the charges against him re- .nn nt Tti Kmti,.;:f. ti,"- V a late vfo official improprieties, or irregularities, or to . , . . ' - . . , , doctrinal errors, the necessity of a council -to inves, oeuer Kiaie 1113 grievances io me muiv uua ana nave tigate them, composed in part of ministers, would be the mailer settfta. ' ' " ' r -:bvious to .all:?V.If "accused ':bf immoralities,'-if must - - ' . ,,'"v-' i;-; be remembered that the charge is to be proved befoje yP-'"1 3 vrt - .-; '3;- -he is condemned. "Does not every one see that the . .-. . lireenSDOrO l1 CEiale lOliege. ravesuganon oi sucn a cnarge couia oe penormea i nr ifcne o '.in. m th fr;-nl Ka.-'a-inMi. less injury to the caui of morality and reli-ion, by 6ent us a c0?y of the Catalogue of this InstituUon C- a council of ministers and. elders selected from the During tie past year 137 pupils have been in at churches, than-by a single church ? Is it any sur-j tendance. Its teachers are" - ' - ; - -'' ;'.--.' .V delay church disiinlinarv ar.tinn till Rnrh invPStira. naries .ueems, srresiaen .rroiesspr ot rones tibu is had ? And is it not unwarrantable haste for lrs ana pnysicai s science v iiiiam V. uono. any church to exnel a minister from mmbershin be- froiessor L aiamemaucs ana . Ancwni languages . . L I' M-taaM.nT 11 IS U.fonpn rf"V Mt1C1 ' MlOJ b' It4 of such a councU has been ob- t"c ' c x - T- XiLZ A. Graves,; Drawing, ; Painting and' French. fore the judgment . tainofl 1 The'investigation before such a council should be Peth Sherbrooke, M iss Jane Speer.liss Mary t..n . n 4v , ...v- S. Blake, Assistants, in the Literary Department. snH K. ri ;f,-:4- i,i .L. Miss Aausta M.Hagen, Miss Rocmda Dougberty, ; witnesses; and a copy should be transmitted to the 1S! A?nfr;MvLyman.Astts,ia, th? HePartmen Chllrdl. Who mav rmrp, ,1 tn sn nritrinnl i nvpatjBra. I 01 JMUSIC ion. if not satisfied with that of the council, -"If the v. - i- . i-vucuce- ut-vc:i as iu t .aire cis exclusion: irom i; - r j ; Tni- thVRprnrder s church f.'lo. they can r.ow. proceed without ' tor the Kecorder. embarrassment, i;. the same way as with any other f . AffCStS Cf TTake FcrtSt Collcget uiemoer Ia receivL-2 c! :--s egainsi a minister, great can- ve learn that Mr. John jnncneii a late graduate ion should te used." " A-air.:t an elder receive not f this institution, and Rev. Robert B. Jones, now a is Missionary of the Board of the Convention, i have tiou an accusalica tut befcrs two a scriptural rule. As a cid ' stronger rootives r?-i rreater c r. " : taming-purity c! is reasc-zl.i lhat t' fchoe: I 1 2- r: ;uared. II c culiarly to : ilice ai cal cf re!' ' :: !s t , to v. i'.r.esses," ... - i L f fp 1 f t0 have decli:. ed the appointment of Agents tendered them .V- T .1 i - r 1... r tHn t t C r'stians itl wu trustees, xar wiicucu uaa guue :er ev 'sr.ee ci misconduct lu lu euuu ii.cuiOgicai oeramary, ana oir. juues ce, t: a, exposes' him pe- deems it his duty lo yield to the request of the Board y, a-.i ths prosperity ha continuic'r f:r th- rresent in M vprv intfrrir-r f C- and irro ortar. cf :gi. ire; It i3 hoped the; I i-c -t A" :t ia Cj For the Recorder. - - .' ' ' ; . Tidens. ; "How,n asks Videns, " can a person be holy with out faith 1" I reply, by. asking, how can a dead man i live . without T)reathing.,1 Or more "properly, how can a being be created without life j that is, without his exerting life, as necessary to his creation 1 The answer to Videns' question and Cmine is the same. It is done in either case by the simple power of God. ' Omnipotence speaks to the dead natural or spiHtwd--' -the sovere.ignZrVord;!Xiye".Jt-and'the dead livel and tneraif iu'' the one case, as well; as brtaVunz in the other, is not the 'cause of life,? hut its acts, effects and e vide nee.... Is not faith," says Vidensj'an essential ..- element-of :-hotineMlTn:Th question respects not the elements of holiness, but its cause. , u If men," he again "asks,,. "can" be holy, without faith, can they not be saved without faith V Are not infants, I ask, saved without faith ? Or will Videns repel this question; with; the benefit of. the discovery, which, with some other of our Divines he may have made ; ( though the myste ry . of this the-- ological anomaly, has never yet, according to prom- without holiness,,or, without the redeeming blood of Christ If " All holyi beings,"- says ; Vidensmust be in a state of salvation j "where then is the ? helces- sity of faith V ,'To which I replythat all sentient beings must be m a state of hie; where then is tne necessity. for a ny gi'dtcth', or development olheif b e iiiff ? : - And airain, all persons who have. eyes are in a state to see : where then is'the necessi ty ofiight 1 The question of Videns proceeds upon the erroneous supposition that the simple salvation orja soul is the entire and ultimate object of God, in his conversion. But if this were true, why "should God,' after his con version, reveal to him any thing more , of his 'char acter and glory 1 Why should Paul - feel, that it was better to depar,t and be with Christ, when, he wasalready in a itate'sajyatio in a state of salvation, while we fall very far short Of the. enjoyment of the full benefits of that salvation ; as a man may be in a state of life, destitute of nearly all the enjoyments of life. " As men are hoi yVr says Videns, prior to the exercise pi faith,- indeed prior to the acquisition of the power essential to"; itsex ercisev it follows that men . please God prior to the exercise of faith But we are taught that" without faith it is impossible to please God." To this V. H J. replies rsf, that he has not said that men :1 are holy prior to. the acquisition of the !pbwer essential to" the w exercise of faith :" or even that "men are holy prior lo the exercise of faith." He ; has ,only said that faith isnot .iheause of their holiness ; and that so long as they aire unAoty they cannot believe the "gospel. " With those who are under circumstances which admit of faith ; thai is, who car the ' gospel, and are naturally capable of believing, the ; holiness experienced in fegcneratonwill iinmediaielyex' press itself in faith, as naturally as j new-born babes' desire the mothers milk, bo that holiness and faith under : these circumstahcesj&Te l ihsepamble. JHThis nowever.no more proves that faith is the1 cause ot holiness, than the child's desire' for the' "mother's breast, proves that this desire is the cause of its ex istence ; or that it could desire the breast before existed. Secondly ; Videns fails again to distinguish between things, in "which there is an important dif- i' .1 j z -iiJj- n- '' -. ' . ' lerence, very maienauy anecung meir xeiative cnar. acter. '--i : "Tf -"'5?f "v: '2 r.li He .does not distinguish between the different i.4.--.' r . ... . . ' it -r v.. ' wiiuuiuns vi persons , pu appues io tairvConuiuons, what belongs to one only : and hence, W. Hfc J.'ap prebends, misunderstands the text, " without faith, it is impossible to please GodvTo -understand lan guage, it is necessary to understand clearly its t sw&- ject: or speaking in terms more", strictly, correct-- to understand a predicate, we must understand its subject. ; Ou r Lord says, ;I come as a thief.". But the subject of which the comparison is predicated, is ui me oaviour s moral cnaracier, dui nia unexpect ed appearance.. That we may; understand therefore,; thejanguage impossiDie to please uoa it is necessary,, thai we shall understand, whether it is predicated, of all charr acters and conditions of men universally ; or only of persons of some peculiar characters and conditions Does Videns suppose that those to - whom faith : is naturally or incidentally impossible as to - infants i idiots-and heathencahnot be saved without faith ? Or does he think that the language of the. .Commis sion too, " Iie tfiat believeth not, shall be damned: js universal, and applicable to ail characters and con ditions He who is capable - of worshipping: 'God. and to whom hejias, been made known; cannot. please him without faith : and of such persons the Apostle muoi ue supposeato speaKife s;;;;tw t;f 2. And therefore secondly Videns 'does 'not diS' tinguish, bet ween faith,' as contradislfngushed from a ituii VI.JOHII, iu a iioiy cnaracier, wnicn is auriou- taoie merely to the imbecility vandy imperfection of the spirituallstate which disualify they subject Ifor putting forth the more vigorous actings of the divine uie, oi wDicn, subsequently, it will become capable or attributable to a -want- of objective light;; and faith; as cohtradistinguished from i positive r unbelief. It is in this latter sense that the Apostle speaks o the impossibility ; o'f pleasing God without faithUn der circumstances, in Which faith is possible, we can hot please; God without ifaith "'sinceime?vWo faith under such ''circumstahMSj yWou negsiiive siaie pi. mma,- oepenuent upon incxasnta! circumstances, and in no wise inconsistent wiA hoiy cnaracter but positive unbelief, involving a'rejection of the truth of God. .To say that we cannot heioly witnout faith, is to beg the question. To say-that tnougn holy, yet, upon the authority of the Apostle without iaith we cannot please God, is again' to beg the question. Since as stated, the rAposlle' intends to distinguish faith not from a holy state of; mind which does not believe from ihe impossibilihj oFthe case, but irom unbelief - ; : 3. And therefore thirdly ; Videns does not "distin guish between hofiness as enstamped upon the mora character by the Spirit of God, as in. infants, - and nonness, as expressing itself in a . conscious intelli gent being, by its practical effects : or, holiness, as expressive of moral character, and holiness as expres sive of moral acts: or between character iitiplfJ a forn;d by holy qualities ; and character as' formed by holy acts, r ";;t z -- p- -, y, .r 4. And therefore fourthly j he does not distinguish between faith in principle, and faith in act ) I mean by the principled faith, that disposition of heart, which inclines it to believe when the object of faith is presented : and by the acf .of faith the heart em bracing this object when presented. -The principle of faith is in every holy soul. It is the very pulsation of the divine life id the soul. All that is necessary that any holy soul shall embrace Christ, is that he shall know him. But he cannot believe in him, ci whom he has not heard. Faith, as described in the 11th chapter of the Hebrews, assumes "ev: Gently a very geaeral aai comprehensive character, as ex- lp;-:ive cf nr: :!y "eTery act cf piety and -every I r f -:1, ' i" z3 it h obedient to'the impulses of God's Spirit, may, in this general sense, be j said to exercise faith. . " --;, . V '. - - 5. There is a! sophistry in the statement of Videns, depending upon the ambiguity of the phrase '.u please God " If Videns means by this phrase, - that it is impossible without faith, to bi in a tate of grace and acceptance'icith God -W. H. J. says again, that he begs the question": and using the language in a sense different from that of the Apostle, he affirms an en tirely different proposition. ' If on the -contrary,- he means, as did the Apostle, lhat withoul faith, we cannot please God, in respect to the acts of : believing his word, and trusting his promises we reply, -lhat we God. may be holy, r withoul in this 'sense pleasing 6. There is a clear'and" important distinction 'to he taken, therefore, between not phasins God,' and displeasing him, Vye cannot please God, in relation to any parlicular commandment, which eitherfrom nature, or condition we cannot obeylmJFor he can only be pleased - with obedience to his .commaudments : and, as, according to the supposition we cannot obey a commandmentj-we cannot please God by such obe dience. , But for the same reason,' we cannot dis please him by the want of such obedience. " For GJd neither expects or deiireiany obedience,' which" he uocs noi give us ine power lo renuer v -;;. It may be seen by these observations, . "with ; how little discrimination A'idens applies the language of the Apostle, tojthe subject, in discssrpn'j'and of how ittle force is ihe . argument which "he attempts to ound upon it.- I- " " '.-h :1- 1-' . ' ': s' I. would likesays I.' J. to define the difference between being unwitt- ng to do a thing, and having no power to ill to do it.! He tells us they are very far from , being identi cal propositions, but with great scrupulosity, avoids eivine us me ainerence." i nis is one oi me .mins which Videns'ought not to .have .said." Even were it true, that W. H, J. had not explained the differ ence bet ween. the two? phrases, iL may .well-have been supposed, that it was. because, , he ; thought, the difference toa plain to need any. explanation,- rather than from any ." great scrupulosity ; in thematter. But unfortunately the fault rests again upon Videns' memory. . W. H. J. as explained the difference. He says that a raanannotcommandMheipiWyfsei which is necessary" lodoa specihea - action (which I presume , Videns will "admity is the same thing, as " having no power to will to do it")-wheh there is not : tn his moral naturet a t susceptibility to ine influence oj motive, tn relation to sucn paction.". On the contrary a man may be "unttting" to do a thingr ambyet be prevailed upon' by the influence of appropriate mouve, simpiyjo ao n. ii mis aoes noi explain to TVidens a difference -which he would have supposed needed no explanation W; H. J. . despairs of being able to satisfy him. 4 Wuh this explanation before h im, he ought not at : least, to have asserted, that Wv H. J. withheld it with " great scrupulosity!" 'I had . thought, says i Videns, that justification preceded holiness, and that faith preceded justifica tion ," . So it has been the opinion: of .Videns that men have both faith and jvificim witho holiness H W. II. Jvhas certainly, himself " thought" different ly ; and! he hopes, for the interests of piety, that our readers will ; generally think with him; Videns, without a caution,' will find himself affiliating: with the dreaded ntinOmiansr and. asextremes often meet, this, in fact would not be very" surprising. : " trl thinkjTsays VidenjsH we may now with jus. tict conclude: jhat by. the. phmseV'thepower;tbrb lieve, our brother W. II. J. means repentance! faith! sahclificaiion fndjredem ainnis, not by Jam, bat by the pmcerol faith ! tBy thejwtfer o.fai sayswe may nth justicle cerning W. II. J.t I can pnly'say, that he is!certain ljV one of the most miserable botchers ihat evef pre tended to leach others,:,: himself Whether however, we; may with- justice conclude! such things to be true of him, or - that Vi dens does not understand what he - is writing, must be submitted to the lribunal of an impartial public. f Tho exclamation marks are added by W. II. J. and very low. .. The cotton crop, whicn nas just te cun to open, promises well, "but fears are entertain ed that the worm will come, on account of the' re cent rains. -.The season is now-very , fine, and the air is very pure.. . ' The attention -of farmers is chiefly turned to mak ing" cotton, in this portion of the State, as a produc tion for maket. tTbe up land will generally produce one bale, (500 lbs) per acre The bottom land-more. I -made" some inquiry on this subject of a few res pectable and . responsible men.- The gentlman, at whose house wes are now stop'pirig, a kind' baptist, cultivates Brazos "bottom. ' He informed me that as g0od a crop as he has made, was as follows ; Out of 30 acres cotton he gathered. 78 bales, and that when it was too late to pick out more, it was thought that there was at least one bale to the acre left on the ground .This isas good a crop suppose, as is ever made. Two bales per acre, on the River land is a very good crop. -; If you should make two bales per acre, your hands just, from JN . U. couia not picK but more than half of it." It will be a difficult matter to hire it picked out,, one half or, the other. -.Those who might be hired, find it more profitable to gather jweans, for which they can get f 2.00 per bushel, ana when a full; crop, one hand can gather 3 bushels a day. I understand - that the pecans and acorns are : ' I must not forget to say that much of the country ovef which 1 havelrave led is most beautiful. Large prairies covered with green grass, the hills rising gradually one above the other, and on every : hill hundreds of cattle feeding, with a few wild deer in. terspersed among them;Nowj and then a4eautiful clumbpf li ye ! oak trees coven ng only a few acres, manyof whichcan i he seen ailone ; view, and im; press the traveler thaOheseVplaces are intended of Providence for men's residences. Baylor University, theSBaptiki Institution Coi Texas, ;is siraatedv in a small village, ia one of these beautiful pairies, in a elevated andf healthy portion of con ntrand Is now in a flourishing condition. : The College ; building when seen for 6 or 7- miles- before you reach' it, wilf impress you that this is a'healthy place to educate your children, and desirable, for a summer residence. TheTemale Cottege,-on an opposite Hill,' the top of which Jean leseetv fromv IheUniversitr, peeping ahbve the Jive oafcs,JjsaHlyS Clark with a good corps of iassistants.The students of Wake Forest College, N. .C. have generally been praised for their manly behavior and their studious habits, anahopeithey deserve jtj- but quite as mucn can oe saia tor tne students pt eayior univer sity. : I have been much - delighted at . the good be havior and christian like deportment manifested at the different churches and school houses (at "which .1 have preached: Kind regards to your family., Hope to hear from you at Independence, Texas. r '- . - ... Yours, : -. -';"' .' ; Si G. O-Brvak. -1 quire nio to say, that if Craig broiler Whit; than because the sct? tt1-: important to disctiss, do not hapr 'j impuguer, are xo Le arraitied by any untutored tyro, as doing EmW" vate the character, of the Recorded duct, in my humble ' judgment, wHl ' ' " tie calculated to promote the end v V'' has at Ijasttjiat ;of raising the reput V ; pnper. So much are we ever in faZ . ' charity for the mote that is in buP lTfi? c r of forgetting the beam which is' in 8 e- : 7il5believebrotherrA tended wen v b he is entitled to pur thanks. : I . S will do good. 5-1 t?will not brfeniei-1? p 5"e VVH.thatibjethrein5controver,, . bo too frequently reminded of the afTec-'' admonition-'-w.see that .ye fall not n&i way" : of of the -solemn .'caution-' if l"e have not the spirit of Christ, he "is nonelTk "'"1 I thinkhoweyer t-he pother is guitVf. indiscretion 9 and in ' consideration of V, j.-"5 tiess to us, ;l; wished to drop a fe fr- ,f hints winch ruay serve; the tion in a future editions of bis.lectures. t Warrentor, July 25, 1352, . : ,J' ' .. " - For. the Recorder. ' : ; ", " Burleson Co., Texas, July 5th, 1852. . f I heari'lhrougV idea of comingto Texas, Iwouldliot feel at liber ty; to try to induce any minister to leave N. C. who was'engaged in the ministry,' as I think you' are, if he i had 4 not already t expressed a- desire to enter r'a mprejdestitute field of laborX I know that NC Jhas yet; many wnde and destifa of great useifulness to ministers who will faithfully occupy themK But iheVdestitution of portibhs of fexas is much greater. After the examinations were over at Iridepe:ndence' wife and myself -commenced a tour up the western side 01 "the Brazos? River.5; I had great desire to visit some of the destitute fields I had so often heard of, arid hoping at the same lime that such i a trip might irhprove wifeV .healthj But shewas 'two weak' to- undergo the trip we antici pated l he county in vhich we are now affords an inviting field for, an active and devoted minister. There are three churches in this Co., which have on ly occasional preaching by a missionary .living about 50 miles distant. ? There are other inviting neighbor hoods, in which churches might be established, and the" present 'missionary is desirous to have a settlei pastor in this Co.: not to supply his place, but to aid him in the work After leaving this" CoTthere- is no other baptist ; minister on this side theBrazosj who ii engaged Hn ?the ministry for !l50 miles On" lhe East side about 1 00 rniles jabove this polntlabors bro. . N. - T. Byars, whose field reaches down to Waco Village. From that village down to Washing ton, a distance of 125 miles, there is not a baptist minister living, except perhaps onThis lporlioh of country includes the field , formerly occupied by the late lamented Bro. Mays, who was an active and efficient j rninsioriary under thel patronage of; the Southern BoardH His i field of labor included Spring field, an important town, and the surrounding coun ty, which is how being settled upby "good : farmers, many of whom are Baptists. . ; ' . ' ' You ate well calculated to supply. some of these fields,-because you are surrounded twith .the things Of this world and xaa '. preach '- f or - nothing," until churches are established; jThese fields must - either be supplied with preaching by missionaries, who must look to the Southern Board for support, at least in part, or be supplied . by such as yourself, who might live on their farm's, and preach and build ' up churches. --'- -- -u r--' . Tne Baptists in Texas are a willing. people to aid in supporting the ministry, but in some of the villa ges and neighborhoods no churches are organized and hence the first ministerial labor in many , places, must be, at least in part, gratuitous.- - ;S : - You are a farmer and would like perhaps to hear soraetUu- on.this subject. : The crop now growin h giod. The pic -ect was never known to be better. Corn, p.&ik and I'm will Is very abundant . - v - - ' For the Recorder. :: y The Reproved cachersi ?-f 1. ' zrzrzy ,r. ----J-i . zz:z.Ze' -. -- r zZ: i ojku. iubei ; as jl am one ot tne -preachers arraigned , for our misdeeds at the bar. of public justice, it may perhaps, bebo C morethana-ne5 pessary act of justice to myself, and proper ex prcssion of respect for public sentiment, if I enter some plea in abatement of the i severity of the juagment;Wuic& has voen. prpnottneed uponmy self and others, by our good brother AUDENS You will allow met therefore the ' privilege ' of a fe w-remarks :vv ppn; the ? monitoriaKsalutationJ wkVwhich our brother has been pleased to favor Vrsthen, I beg leave-to submit to , tJjccor sideratidtf of our ,'brothef,- whether, in tmdertak ing to declare of sbuie half-dozen brethren 'and mints iters jJAa t iluir-cmAtru JU cfrderhatedcnicw tribulcd notAwg ioZtietalet tls'eharacler - - - - ' - - - r t. -5 Christ and. more . of l thiskiud j 'he does not assume to himsfelf an office of no small judicial responsibility andwhether7 before be ventures to pr6pouTices6 heavy brethren-fisorne of them at least, of hifrh stahd mg. for talent and ( piety - it ought to have befen a well-considered qestionVwltueri o wn position entitled or required hi dr to .exercise so high a censorial duty, " ' , " - - , .,'2. In' saying that brother " G:'? charged bro. Jjneajrithihsincei' verely rebuked" G. ; that the brethren were " trying to weat en VacTi other as. the" ministers of 7 Christ Audeiis commits, himself to very unguarded declarations jwhich, in julstice!; to these brethren, as well as . to the general .inter est of trutb and religion, ' ought not to have ? been madeI Gdid v A charge, bnhjer ones iwith " Insincerity 1 W. II 3T'-6xdL perelr re bukp G. ; nor were the brethren (in speaking my own feelings I am confident I represent them all) trying to weaken each other as ministers of Christ.V.!!g .3". TJio brother is entirely, too indiscriminate in is cen and rbrothcr? Craig's. communicationsfwere -by no means bad, If our brother Audens will ex- - - For the Recorder: ; To all whom jt iiay Concert In the 33d chapter Ipf Ezeiciel, the sainc which had been advanced in the 3rd chapter V peaieu ana ampimea. --. . . v . ; God's ministers are like sentinels on the wa" Zion, who wilh the trumpet of the gospel in v. hands, are ordered to warn men of their danger to- guard" them against the consequences of their' sJn And if through the default of . the warning 0 spkilual watchman any should perish' he wHl to answer for the consequence. We do not pretend to bea dictator to watcW every man 'vugM ktios owa busiaess bei v Buttliereare: some f acts r which shoiild" claim tl attentionpi aiKvho prof essto je jkratchmeri oVli walls of 2ion. ,v I. t There is a sword not only .coming, bat nowas the people destroying them by thousands oa hand - Not less- than ten thousand of cur W perish annually, and many more -are Wt off from i enjoyments pf this lifef anJ from all hepes df tm-: ing the blessings of the life to comel.- . It seems that at this pomt,everyratcnsiK " cry aloud and spare pot ;" bat strange as k $ appear, 'there are some who ha re never toll i congregations that.it was dangerous tp handle h sword of intemperance ; and though they resiei thatiit bitetj Jike like r adder,"-yet they see theiTmembers make, .sV.L r use this; devouring sword and ne ver sound the a'xz And after the nien of the world hate seen tU . of drinking, and have united their influence to a th? progress of this-devouringsword, '.sbme i men cry out against. all the means "used for sa . bur cpuntryahdrfellb ravages s intemperance. S ?rAndth(EeJre;yetin c5r churches, men Vho are ; now engaged in di.,.'.-: vending" and Using thls'sword to";the destruciicj cf their nerghbourJsoodSf and to ithe. disgrace ar.l a:-ruption- of , theirchurches. -. - - . - And members may drink unn'l jheyare Ik:? or theyayTetail4 until they hare corrupted ii? vvhole Beighbbafhoddand the church not 'noike I ? There are'ministersSvho are "pointed on bther sc jectsr and yet countenance . their members in lb; e vi Is. .-? : , - '-. ',.-'- : : '-: p- Can they see the sword destroying rm every anu nw souna me alarm, ana Deguimessf 5 ?r .; J vex , t.-tfy. - -- - : . ; .: Vit'rsz.' -.. - veIlSE;il:ffiNOTl'CES; work is very neatly printed. , " ' ; ; . , Ah vines'; Ctclopedi a 'or. . Anxcdotes.-C &' Lincoln having issued this work in' de"-' now prepared s to furnish the whole work r.; bound in one 'Volume. Our readers will re---;., the high commendations we bestowed upon it, was passing through the press, i It forms 35 -together a valuable addition to one's librarr- 1 " Baptist Mcaroaut: The Auarust nafflo cuse.me I. would whisper to him softly' (thou'n 0rk has been received. Dr. Dowluig ca; lar irom tumping that his spirit is ..bad,) that in Wheat or Chaff r By the J. C..t. l ' '- bert Caiter and Brothers, New York. - , ; ; Thisbook - contains six treatises bound trr having as their subjects, Wheat or Chaff? V.': -Prove ' all things Are vou regenerate?-! should a child be trained --Be not slothful, but fc-IowersSft-1;-. ' The book is written in a' plain and famifi-ir s' presenling; familiar, truths iaa. manner calculated t interest those for whose; benefit they are inteadei The sentiments ' are evangelical, and the truth-5 re sented timely and forcible. - . . - In regard to the second coming of Christ wseK differ from the author jn opinion, 'but no ChrLf will Jbe, displeased with the hook taken as a irtot The energetic publishers do good service ito the c-' of Christ by sending, forth from their press boctv this characterr':-;'i?;''!.;W CTh'Experiek ces "opJiBIreitwu Frca C" nish, Lamport "&.C6'..' have received "a ccfj 4 this work, supposed to have been written bf Warren Esq author of the celebrated Diaf .0; Physician.' The - tales, originally appeared w Edinburgh Journal. i One wishing 4o pass ml J; houi or two in the heat of the day ; in a p--':; manner will find this bookan agreeable '"' -1 thi3 respect these brethren have the advantage of himself.They proof. Their .spirit is exemplary ; and inno cence, and the character of the Recorder, would suffer an injustice in . their persons, were they not vindicated from so unproyoked an injury. 4.' I regret that brother Audens can see little or no difference in the controversial communi cations which ha ve "appeared from" the pens of ine impugnca Dretnren. i be fact furnishes new evidence of the necessity which exists among us for an exposition of biblical truth, however s un successful the brethren in question, may have been in their efforts "of this kind. - t - 4 1 Z-Si J now. express the convict ron tL at I our re prover, 13 some brother, much the j-;;r of near ly all the Ircthren whom he has arraigned with so ranch freedom, and upon whom he has passed sentence vrltb so izuch condencoi.J apparent satirfact'ea with; his own: conducs. If in this opinion I amVrong, let Audans declare himself, and I will s make a . public acknowledgment cf ray error. . Under a strong cenviction however, ofthe correctne?' cf my impression, I will sub mit for ' the. consider? tion c our brc'ber, r.'.i arcs tolic precept," t'li.uke vc? an El 1 v, Iv't er.tr eat hin as a father.1' C. Ia thjs cczr.:;t.., , . " -r.I s the charge of the- jwonai ueyiTw f now . under - tne uirection 01 toe riwr1 ; ' 1 Hatch; Esq., No. 142 Nassau sU ew ?r one . dollar per year, r fLis4- p r v CUsriVERsrrf IiGAzr-The Angs- , ber has been received.. We think it one ot ' ve .um. fm-u(w. - V & UC TUU1JE EC""--- , 11 ana pumisn it, deserve encouragemem i tie- l.tl 1 . 1 aaDie nnaerraKing. 'aris in April last, scc r-alcnlated to inspire c"'" to God., The trs1 J ,. 1- . , V XThe FrcnchTractlSociffJv . This society has been in operation oine.; Veara. find ar-otriiner, tn 4ha TPTOrt I."." anniversary in P were presented nroduce rratitud tracts, and no w it has two hundred and nv A . popular Christian Almanac hak been F ed annually ' since 1826.- The first yea- 8,000 copies, were printed, ana y'- The first year the recei'-ts were enh n.T5;t Vfl.lr flior' wars' r--f 1 4 . C 3 0 Society L23 sustrinedli great less ; h?-,"-self distributed ;: the last year CC,C0O ct tr" ct:,'-. " - "z- '. --: f " Th3 niostVinteretisV factTrasc to two ladies, who had bceaer2el . di-tritution during a resiience ia P . .; teen ycar, bat tiey were - co a--'i. "' In this ti; 3, they Lad r!-:I trscisjat anl 250 fitb-housc.-. f.il tad r Sf A 1 rrc ' briber, cf :lae!:ncy c 1 .0"
The Biblical Recorder (Raleigh, N.C.)
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Aug. 13, 1852, edition 1
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