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Tie first day of the Debate, Tuesday' 1 3th, prirer was offered at its opening by Elder Shane ifter reading Ephi. 4th ch. and closed with Gal-s-bns 4th and 5th to 1 1 th verse, and prayer by WsA :S ShawX heMpderatera rwere Mark lo'trs, Esq., Rev. Q. TL Trotnian.and Jnb. B. Odom, Esq. After opening prayer by Wm . A; Sa, (14tb) Rev. Mr, Trotnian read theques- ilon for Debate viz ; " ' - 7' - 7 . - -Immersion w the only Scriptural Mode o f Christian , Baptism ' " flier BrUton affirmsif J B. Moderators, men and brethren.. A great responsibility, I feel, is upon me, and -extends also to yon, as e very, pne - is deeply v in teres ted , fb trusts in Christ, that His prayerjshould .be astereu. that . all his people may be " one in Hm, as He is baewithlthe FatliexJ CpIr- iscs mm tue oraiuance; pupamism, . siricityt we Wfere ia best calculated to secure this' His di sredresalCSAs1 we haverepeatedlyheard' bs fore in thia i dcussionois irr laws iire of ,im ? Mratlve importance and obligation. Therefore 3 positive laws shpuld be expressed in the plain ed terms, and those m ost usual, and " easiest $ to knndcrstood.rBIackstonc savs. t all laws should how much more all positive institu- tm: 1 he . Aidtor it y of the" Lawgiver in mv- positive law, is itself the highest reason- If! IFfl 1A t I. . 13 ..Ait) W V rt rrv AM.. A 1 r, I ti,t v-.. . - . ,-, - ' - - isigueaj to mnuenee men tooaeyi lie , post nre kw alone recognizes the w ill of th x rightful lawgiver, to secure obedieuVe yTb e Grea t GI ris tiin Lawgiver,' after his resurrection, and just the eve of his ascension, gave "the command ta bis ministers,.'" Go ye into all. the world :;and preach the gospel t6"ieverycreature Hethat klieveth and is baptized shall ba saved ; but he M believeth not shall be clamned." Mark 1G. Again, v Go ye therefore and teach all nations. taptjziiig them in the name of the Fath er,- and itf ihn Sinn nnA !, il.-A flV.t if Teaching Uiem: &c. Matt- 28 1 19- 20. I would deeply isprcss it ony ottr tminds that ierff is ordained ) y Christ, . His general law of Ba ptism . W trjltrifi r4 rt Via nvftlfT ttrv jfcf nAil - A a? 'that the terms arc faorfm amlArtd-fimta does falionor to Christi fPedobaptist Authors I here ate on positive law.; " Dr. -Schiller Positive ; should "haveplain positive proofsThe Protestant faith Is ufijustlycliarged Jwith: tti irtainty," All positive laws admit no degrees explanation, i?ty like words IjThis 'constij' Wes tie trialqt our oS'(iteee.jThe'precept.i3 and a wflr and no lesSytrii 'rtO iotherwts&i Bennet,". 'Tis ft reproach not to be able ,to 'M out the meaning hlydiUice'ilkni ! :. Bra'd: 150 173 pi on Matt. 2S : 1920." There sast be here a -plain, natural sensa, for an Cr-I i Jtaerwise Christ would not be a Teacher,' but barbarian. So s"aysBradbtrryK::0;: ' ;S'' l. Then tha Great Lawgiver gayc this law of ; ptin'terslatH.Byvtobe understood as f its signification,, easy to comprehend and d 8. VVe shall pursue Tegular ordjr in our re iih for the sake of fairness. We look : rJot so I &ssa to present as to future effects from .this i Passion T we Ions for ultimateSiniorf and broth - love among alL the professed disciples of 'onst. We invite you to The tads, as to the j Heal meaning :of baptize in the original Greek, , a thich language, the inspired New Testament delivered to man. t And lst. liaptizo, the 'ot of which is baptol - Bap to is never applied I fehristbtt-baptism. " Baptizo is the term uni- derivatives but never lap(o, Its root.- Bap- and its derivatives baptisma for example, ;M we used to express christiari baptism -Bap- expresses mode or in other words, the thing f$If. Now, if we can ascertain ."the plain mean H lavtizo. the term used for baptism, that suaii rge. JBnt, Lmust premise that this word f'izo is not: so translated, in King James the -aioaly received - version.;:, The last letter . !' U merely changed into " e." Hence t!U ;r 13 merely transferred from Greek 'to 'En - without defining its .in can ins by literal tion.. . ' ' " , so3e and simpl question for our consid-.-'a then is, What did baptizo mean in the ' "5 Christ and his awstlcs? Hero to as- . 1 ' ,ra this; oar Erst aDiwal must be to Lexicons "?J are the Dictionaries of the Greek lan ;:c5v.:Nw the duty of every Lexicographer, Greek cf tb New Te:ta.ment, most of it a 1SOO years so, is to ascertain the .an f Geanii cf baptizo. " TL t cieanic is cev- 'to Dour,1 Z3 c"3 cr tro c-lra 'Lexicons -j ny man to ,2 foisted i?i I here chall: ay "aaclezt L"l::a i:::tr.o. pour 75 ??.rinkle" Z3 a r --i?" c Until ,-esent century : : C jd-to-foht in such 1st. Ic-'.Irra to . li-:-:tI. i , - i . . x " 1 : -rrretat.-,- r i CZ3 ci tzz r.: ' 1-;. ' - a. . i. . . meantJtsr estaonsnes tne moae. i fTe that baptizo never means --"; to "sprinkle," "'f " fn mn-nr Vvr 'tjv immofoa ilin !' tn nor sprinkle here sir. 2. Stephanas, Baptizo, dip, immerse, dye, by dipping. 3. Thesaurus o' Robipsoa as old a3 167(1, near 200 years back Baptizo,;mergo', I immerse," Lavo,' I wash ;v one .proper senseor primary nieaning, and one the last, figurative. 4. Schleusaer 173 t ovei 118 years back 1. primary ssnse " Baptizo" J immerse, " I dip in water" 2. I wash in water, (of course by di.pping, as all washing fs usually done.) 5. Jlazer, baptizo, dip, immerse, dye by immersion; metaphorically, immerse," over whelmed, but involves the idea of immersion. 6. Parkhurst Lex. baptizo. Wash one's self by immersion, Mark 7 : 4. . Wash by dipping the hands in water. 7. Donnegan, baptizo, immerse, submerge, soak thoroughly. 8. John Jones, baptizo, immerse, dip, plunge. 9. Another, im uieree dip, plunge. 10. Another, immerse,' sub merge, pjunge, sink. II: Rosen muller, Ger man Lexicon, plunge, immerse. laBretsc'ineK der, . baptizo, entire immersiaii, complete immer sion, necessary." Pedobaptist' 'Lexicographer. 13. Voss English j immerse, plunge in. water, he gives under baptizo. .-Here are 13 witnesses nearly all Pedobapttst, who testify to the same effect as to the primary and principal meaning ot the O reek word baptizo. 14; Groves prim, dip, immerse, plunge. Figurative senna to pu rify, to overwhelm. The whole ; mass of the Greek? dictionaries are, you see, confessedly, with us. But my" opponent may say, ' these men may be mistaken. . No sir I there t Is no rtaum for such a supposition ! we go to them for the resfofthe meanings of thepart of the JVTew Tesi lament' that is translated ! Why not let them translate into English this anglicized and trans ferred Greek word baptize ! If the ; Lexicons are inistaken In the sense,; Achtri then shall c'roe go; to solve put flpubtrl hey all say it ought to be translated twTnerse, : That is its meaning. Then, that 13 its mode for manner of adniinislr ac tion ! 1 , ,' - -, riBut'siiv I present you herewith another m derxeejand one about which miy fopponent must epneede, there Mno mistake f' . The Greeks them selves sir. They still live,' they understand th eir oyrn lahguagaitoosirand they still 47aie, inl vanablj,forjbaptrsm'.Th ridicule sprinkled'christians I If vou." ask tliem how' long they have immersed,' they reply, waybere'is liif 6ther vvaynwhichjyou. can" uaptizet ui .theHt. century, till now, immersion for baptism is then ' tlo.uiti'i V irt.fticgy,?,??" Jt)?P.t.,zI,-.W .'tn6 aS"0jln3ari woe: JSevr Thi3 one fact witKan unbiassedjBind, ought to j f4J9"era ba ptizo 4ni seiuauwmaxieryorew must adduce classical schoiri and arguments frdm learn.'d Greek scholars to heap up more testimo ny. -Venema says, " baptizo j immerse the whole man in water." So-Jeremiah Patriarch of Con stantinople, also.', ; Witsius, " immersion Is re quired," and j to. shew .there is no danger -in this mode, Witsius refers "to the Dractice of Mus covy (Russia) the extreme of cold climates, say- ling; " tneyvuse it safely in mul-vunler ";; I will neht, repeatedly cited by him i on yesterdays Dri Wall, in his HistfPedosaysi' the Greeks always have, and do now, practice. immersioa." Ife 1 have now presented two Irrefragable 'proofs 1 .vFrctn the LexiconsviTIiey alt giyoltbe-E'ri-glish word immerse as iithej'ineaning of Jflyio; Now immersion expresses one particular action only, sprinkling another pouring another. " All these actions are just as different from : one 'anr other as " to walk,".1.' to ride,' and td fly A man who walks,' don't ride,' nor does he fly. They , are tliree? separate and .disti-ndt "actions. And so immersion," pouring anol sprinkling -are separate; aud ? distinct "actional " Baptizo means " to immerse,"5ramo or rantizo' to sprinkle," chegr"iq r pour. ViM. Why notisaihese 'twolast words, f antizo to sprinkle,' and eheo to pour, to express these actions ? A But you never find raino, norcheo, nor rantizo,..used in connexion - with christian baptismal '7 If Christ had wished why did he not use raino or cbep, but He used bap tizo. i - " i The proof roinithe Jreet- language? and pr,oof I;ii6w,cite you to one of the .most celebrated Pedobapf is t Y Professofs in th eV. nHed Sta tcs Stuart of Andavcrj called by scrrao, the . Ameri can ..apostle. " Baptizo'dip immerse, plunge. W here Jprhikli n got VQ ting o ore u rs f n t b e En - glisli ' iranslitiphV the G reek wor4 baplizo is neo gr nsea :. a uis is not) a iar idicueti interenca. The ctvmolo2v of the word shews us that prima rily'andjn variably baptizo 'means timmersion.?? This anthorify sir, is not a moirn Ped biptist Lexicon foisting in an "entirely new and different m eaning, so as to make it suit th eir p 2culia views ! 1 have shewed " by 14- Lexicons, that baptizo wherevlt .means ftd"2wfi-sli itfisnotiby sprinkling of pouring . H fewdrops butXtpping, immersing : in water, to effect washing by immer sion. 1 rep u at no man, can shew any Lexicon within the first, 1800 years after Christ, that gives baptizj the 'definition : V to pour" or v" to"; sprin kle !" Doubtless he (A.) will appeal r to Lid dell and Scott, one of the latest modern Lexicons to help hiin,'t vain ! They define baptizo, dip, dip under, bathe, wet, soak, steep, and have foisted in "poar." .1 have been, credibly in formed that Liddell and Scott have , been called on to assign the reason of their departure from . "-. " t' ' ' '" ' . T . " iJ iLlil well established ana ancient lexicons, auu mai they say ,-they will correct the next edition, take it back, to save their credit for scholarship ! We have now ascertained the fact of d. Saptism as to its manner of administration. Let me base an argument upon it. .Here is a minister in the county of Northampton, indicted by am an," for oaptizing uis .companion. i pucu u . dence that he sprinkled or poured wafer on this man's wife. - Now I contend that no intelligent jury of 12 men could ba found, who would con- vict this minister, of the offence charged I . De cause, the only appeal could be to the Lexicons, and the Lexicons would clear him of too offence alledged' in the bill of indictment ! The appeal would be not to denominational persons, but. to the common senso.cf North1 Carolina citizens. They would decide by the Lexicons, that one baptise could not be ' done in three ways, and they-would, follow, the weight of .testimony ! Christian biptism is immersion in a liquid, wat3r. TL3 7-crd cxprcc3:3 the action-. Dip- rm. irrimers.on. ur t.-- -a "- immersion, orr.::. u irutci, 3 --rj r -31 - - - . " ... a c . . r.r T" .- r 1 tiO to tae 1.1. H r1 i- tr"-: 11' 1 a Ne 5 r - b to n:::n cr ro-r. Tl :r ere r.:v:r corrtr.-r.ru:i: in :tr! WLv the present, pra etice of th e modern Greeks, like their. earliest and only practice, -viz1 i; Immersion. These proofs settle the mode. : " ':": ' ' it, cs they ought," immerse." TLey knew sir, that the fraud would be too well known the whole learned world would have exposscd them; had they translated baptize to sprinkle or pour Again, if they, translated, baptize rightly, " to immerse," then " their craft would, be'-in dang er I" All would be oVCr with' them, sir ; all would-bo Baptists ! I know there are "many members in the Methodist church, who are anx ious tu have a New Version ! Mr. Wesley sir translated the New Testament. Whv others ? Have they not seen Mr, Wesley's ver sion ? We fav lo ouronnnnrnfs u-neli nnAn. - - - f i ........ jvui unu hands first. : The, effect ; of a New Translation would be hishlv salutary sir ! The United Stain onsht to have it. It would bring us together as christians. We should walk together in the prim itive ordinances of theMost Hish. Now my. opponent-in 'order-to establish the negaUve, if passible, must resort - to far. fetched inferences. : For example he will tell ua that the terin's or words sprjokle'orf pour; are; often used in Holy Scripture, fn the Old and -New Testament. But I demand sir, is baptizo ever translated ?Mo sprinkled ort6 pour," :in any part of the Bible ! No ! cheo is to pour, r antizo to sprinkle. I assort, that no such religious rite as sprinkling or pouring ; com mon water,1 unmixed, can be shewn from the; Scriptures !.'; No.such f e ligious rite ever was ordained 1 I know.a'ms- sage can be found ; in' the Old Testament, 4 So shall be sprinkle manv ; nations." .But tin U Hebrew, not Greek; The Hebrew Lexicon de fines the Hebrew word, there used to cause1 to leap for joy-," -" tp cause to exult ' cause manv uations to .rejoice in himself, " so shall he.as tonish many nations." : Glory to His name. He has rejoiced and4 astonished, many nations, and will astonisbtmahymof o4Biit this,passag;e has io sort ot reterence to baptism , literal or figura tive.' ,lie must seek sora e'other refu e. ) Hence, he -will ay,4 the - mode' of bantism makes "no difference ''ilrrecairvbtf'W-'tb'eP'e-' ist testimony"! read just now no lesX' . yi viucMTist,:- .j. uo . are we, worms of yesterd;ry3 to pf esmeAto lictate ;to God l Who dare set asidoa;' positive: christian lawjinsteadpf aubmitting to the authbrity bf the Most High t rebel against our heavenly Master ! But as time, allows, ! will nvo a larsr a fiild to pur friend oil the other side. Here our Greek scholia frpra i classic writers wh o: tise tli 3 X G reek iuerse prnnscvuin; nut under water. LTf(i,-iri'in innon the Man 5 hater, Vbaptziugvhi:u;y till he would rise nomore.'P self (baptizing) himself into a lake." Dont sink .... --.., .".- .- ' . . .- '-4 (baptiza-scareelysiiikbaptizj.) other Greek writer, ba ptized in water up to their breast immersed 'or baptized up tp: his Wrist also immersjd (baptized) up to his finger? 56 thelearned Johrr- Sejden saysther modern;parf sbn baptizes bis firigers rather than thTcliild!;nn sp inkling I " Plutarch in the Life blLTbseus says ' O bladder thou niayest be dipped, but not fated to sink?.- (Gri' baptiz5) J oscphu3 says X)ur ship was immersed, (baptized) in the fAdrian uvu. . hvis u. liu Euuaiiug uui puui i ujjv. Dig nified in any of thesi sintences wherj biptizp and its de.ivativea: are used; just ; as jn the ; Greek Testament sense. - The 3 actions of immersion! pOuii bg and Sprinkling distinict actions. One only of these -acts can b? 1 will agree . never to imm srse another person, it na can convmce iiietnat sprinkling pr ppunng is valid pr right It lie consents, 1 will make - the bargain": with' him f he will be equally candid, on cpnvicticnjtw I hen sir,5 we shpuld thinValike, practise" alike; ad feel alike, pa this all important 'Bnbjicte- A iMott jrators and Brethren. . 1 admit tin importance pf tin subject, with my brother, but uo not iiiiac u: so m ue u ,i ui p o r tan e j io 1 1 as " nj bt: Paul thank d uodfceven that he diet not come ty baj I izehui to preoih the Gospw? Christ sent him. in its place; baptism is an ordinance to be re verenced , iifrd should be observed yith d u re - gard to the lawmiker, I urge jt on my church to CO and suDimt to it, anu- onng ineir ; onspring . He says a positive law should be plain, and ea ily un-derstood, by.al! meri, ltake this ground, that if he fli-ew meipsitivekla in suppoitiof his position, clearly understood, 1 wont jnake another speech ! The qoestion is not whether baptizo means ayemg, drowning or overwhelm ing ; but the question is, Is it the cn'y meaning of the term Ue urges us to go to the ljible:.': I Hoped that h o would have confined himself to the Bible,' in r th is' d iscussi on.. - But Jib- did'nt read'one extract from the'Bible yesterd.-.y ! lias 1 .' . -. ' . . t ' ' ne proaucea one scripture quotaiion,T.iii3; niprn ing ? Pbsitive law-yes, gocni f positive law ! Let us7 see it I stand on the '.defensive, and call on him, here, to produce one. positive proof that immersion is tne onitj moae : tie nasnot lurnisn ed one solitary proof ! ..':. " . v. v ". ' .,'v. l dont eontrp vert ";tbe".cja3sical r.ihtsrpretatibn of the word. As to the scriptural application pf the word, I do. He cant produce bua c-ise bf immersion from the Holy scriptures I " But the theology of thb " Baptist ; church "says so..' He's pne pf tlum ! it I contend , immersion is n-t the only scriptural meaning of the word. Has he civen you one argument to prove it the only meaning ; l can nim to oo it, n ne can. Z He says "he will give me a wide field t "Not at- all sirf I can grasp At all, at once, in i my hand ! I call on you to bear me but in my as sertion, dil be read one word which said, it only meant immerse? -"Did he "show it in this good old Book one sentence Out of it ! If I am wrong speak ! In a speech of an hour long, I. looked for a strong effort but no he will not bavo so much' time here after. Bathe went Into Lexi cons ! told us of the opinions of men, and of the custom and practice of the Greek church ! No sir ! We stand on tho Bible, till W3e swept down by the hand of death ! He talks of Mr. Weslays translations of the; New .Testament? But was it "adopted by church action, or was -it circulated in': foreign or home missions f They know the good old Bible dont sustain them. When the American Bible Socbty was formed, the Baptist were with us. The principle of that Society wa3 to give the Bible to the world, with out noto or comment. But the Baptists wanted their missioiKiry operations under tbc'r own con trol ! 1 dont object, perhaps they were ri-ht. But they cpplied to the American E.lle Society to translate baptize, but they were voted down, by a largo majority. They : then went cl.'and nrmc-1 tl 3 American t.zl I crcn-E.; .3 Society. TLey' 3 evea I - i.:a'J.- ' .7jrt3 to- get mcaey trazil.it 3 the Z eU cf labor ! A -h"t of r 1 their it? du- 1 tic - tr: ty ! that they would render the Bible weak io the faith of men. He1 said, be thought so too 1 Is the object to make it plain ? But, he says, it 13 plain and positive . already ! Then why not let it Etay so? , By a mu!titude" of words , they darken counsel.."; Mr.-.. Wesley .'did translate the New Testament, .it i. true. But it was not a gsneral church movement. - It is not so with' the present Baptist movement. ' They mean to car ry it out in all its "bearings I;. ;;'vV:iv.:C' But ho says it means only to immerse, not to sprinkle nor pour, I was just about to But"! wont when he puts his finder on it, it3 not therei: .'-If it is' so plain, why did he let it stay shut up, in an hours speech ! I'd open it above board!. positive command !T call for it, in so many words, not bis own wayward construction! To settle v the truth of Iiis proposition, . bo must' show the positive command. I shall now prb cced ita aliow he cannot,. although, the burden of proof rests on him: He s;iys, "he'd quit im mersion,' if I'd convince him," 1 replied to him, in old brother Skidraofe's languaga, "1 can con found you, but I cant convince you." : - r - "Convince a man against bis will Sec' .. ' . : The, Bible Saysnot a word of it He saysV immersion is :the only mod3 !ll: go farther, He cant prove a solitary case of immersion ! . 1. I call fyou to "Liddell ."and Scott. ;'' .Baptizo' to. ii-ponj drench . &c. 7My4oppba3nt'says; somcLbna! says, this" Lexicographer has 3 recanteil-that he draws back, like a terrapin in his s'i ill, an 1 s iys' "he'll translate it immerse,' risxt tim e f says he'll do better1"' so much for that. 2. Schrevelius' Lexicon jMergbv luo, lavo; - he is?an anci ntand able; Lexicographer? Lavo means " to sprinkle." Elder Btitton It means "to. wash," not sprinkle!. tiuvr : fAinsworai -.pays n ineaus.-vspriiinje H ere are ?t wb learned and excellent . m en , ! I don t know whether they are M ethodists or Baptists i:want their testimony f 3 Groves 'Lexicon I know, my opponent says Baptizo the derivative from Bapto' is generally fused. :f Bufaes it mean morethanthe original jrObt ?XiI contaridtVr: Japo. "'it means "to. sprinkle, to 6teep; to dye; stain," color.?';. One case, where the word means to sprjnklei sustains ni3."jt"H the word means only immersion ! . - . . - ' : ;.;: ;A ( To be Contin ued.) Sketches and i Recollections Preachers. : of British BT THE fAUTHOR OF " THE t.IJ'KOF CHATTER .'"TON v PES? AKD 0 K SKETCHED,"- ETCA ETC. F UEv0noirX EsLL.VDijr Who has not read with tearful eye the bright,' brief histbryt of theR'vi rhouia3 Spencer a young man, whoso eloauence, it is "said, was of almost seraphic prdrf . Many years ago,, when in the zenith bf bis popularity, he: was drewned in the Alerse'tand the'calamitous event produ ced a? profound imprassibn .in the mercantile metropolis of theporth of England. Thjio- sraphcr of Jspeneer was IMr., now Dr. Kahijsana the, historian of theybung divine f became his pulpit rtccessor. ' : d0M&S ? Liverpbolv ppssesses :within her precincts. two pf the mpst Celebrated preachers of Britain" la the .Oh'tf fcVf Jof'iEnglan stands '.rpfeehiirietfi and ambnglndependentsi few. are more ; highly estimated ". than " Thomas KafS jS.ThepIacef! -rwhera' thesaminsntTnen b ffic iate are very near each othe r. O n some fu -ture occasibn - we may take: Mc Neile for a sub ject us ' All h ail th e power o f JosusVname, ; . . . 7 nngels prostrate tall s , -. : Brinjr forili the royal diadem --7 .-X 5vn And crovvh; hiui.-Lonl''of all Vfyfy 'r4iif tbundtVrs from the organ; as wltllowmjes'Hc -l .' . ia .'. m .- ' j -S'if.'i' 'i.ai -w.- w'. step,j VTiT-lxJiuiiS' asuuuus iue pui pii muii s. . v say majestic,' for hS mounts as we riiay-ima'ginj a crowned kin? ti eads th e daisn" which stands I113 th rb nif TTJYe t:jth e re. is no pr id e' even in Dr." Raffli's manner; for 0 happen td enough of the man to be certain that such a weakness is his mortal rabhorrenco :We7 have 'i frequently; too, met li i m i n plac es where p rbud habits could not escape undetected, "arid w3 unhesitatingly declare"' that the7 worthy ' Dbctbr' is' on 3 1 of 7: the most a ffable, unaff jcfe d , an d. d eligh t f ul of com panions; good nature sparkles, in. his '.clia'r large blue ey anl playsabout.hls 'moathV: arid is imprinted in:every line of his counten trice. But; in th 3 pulpit, solemnity banishes any thing and every 7 thing 't save 7 a oonseioasness xof the great mission pf tlje preacker? We feel nssured that whenDr.1 RafHes enters the sacred "desk he leaves the werld. behind him, and stands pnly as tha miriister pf mercy betwaen a sinless God and si nful man. Sorii e of . th e most i m pressi ve oc cupants of the pulpit are the marries t of man in the parlbrV : And why not? . : 7 " Dr. Rafflis operi3 the hymn-book, and com marices the servioe.7 We 7 are at: once struck with the beauty ot bis reading . Every word has its du3 7emphasis, everjr line its becoming 7intb nattbn, "and the effect produced is 'profound.' But then Dr. Raffljs is a poet himself, and con sequently avoids the common error of: marring fine stanzas by slovenly recitation. ' " Ooc up on a time," we ourselves perpetrated a hymn to be sun? pn a special occasion, but, to our7 jucx pressible chagrin, the person who ."gave it ont" cotiplctely murdered it by his reading. , Who forgets 7 Biddy Fudge's- agony at having verses misprinted, so that the com positor substituted for " freshly blown " roses," an allusion to nasal organs ?7 The vexation bf MoovoV heroine eould scarcelyhave exceeded "mine. r 77 7 ;"' :. .: i VLet us describe Dr, RafHes' personello before we proceed farther. 7 i',;7':rC-. '7.'-; :'::';7;7' . If the . worthy gentleman' -has studied much , and we believe he has done : so, it proves: that a student's Tace Ioe3' not always indicate what Sbakspeare calls " the pale castTbf '"'thought," for the physiognomy bf our reverend friend ex hibits all the indications of yude and vigorous health; -The cheeks are .13 florid as those of a young farmer fresh from the fields. ; Blue, large, and clear are the eyes ; not, it rem j be, so bright as of yore, aud those unmistakable symptoms of approaching age, crow's-feet, are discernible at their angles. There ia a "comfortable autl some what of a jovial expression on the countenance of the Doctor; tha world appears to have dealt entfy with him sir.J we believe such has indeed been the case. He is- of the medium sfature, and rr-thet stout, for : be posse?.;es a respectable d:rce cf rc'.zz-.ty," i.et v.r.eouirze:i' ta f-:ztle- non'who Lave rcr.-.arkably ccziiortalie casy cbairs, ia the szuc--::;t cf tull:s, tr.a hrear.1 certain ir.?emc-.. ; at present we beg the reader to aQCompany ;to7St.vGeorge's i Chapel, for; the purpo3.e, pf heariniRaffles-";-.. Dr." Rafles reads Scripture no less admirably than he does hymns.- On the present occasion, he selects that splendid portion of holy writ in which is related Paul's defence before Agrippa. We had read that chapter hundreds of times, but were never fully impressed with its marvell ous beauty before we heard the speech of Paul delivered by Dr. Raffles. : There was a suiting so far as the pulpit could "admit, of the action to the word. . For irJstatice': When the reverend gentleman read that part of the apostle's speech in which ho wishes that he before whom he was pleading was like: him in every respect " save these bonds," Dr. Raffl3s placed his right hand on iiis left wrist;. thus, without the slightest quackery of action, indicating the manacles. We are aware that many ; excellent people de nounce such aids.' believing them to be what they- terra " theatrical." From such ,W3 differ altoetheri Manner as well as ' matter has its influence : and if pulpit action 'does not digen- crate into grimace of the grotesque, certain are we that it will operate a3 a gentle ana attractive persuasive : to piety,- especially as it regards the young. - ;.';.;-r7"';V - ' - ; - . We have frequently heard Dr. Rata es descn- bed i as a' grand" preacher : that he is a deeply impressive pulpit orator we admiv but the term ''grand" does not exactly, chime in with our notions. He owes his popularity more, W3 imagine,- to his . faculty of decorating his subjects than to the enunciation of any new : principles connected with them .-'His manner is as attrac tive as bis matter,? and it is wonderful how elocu tion, Uke charity, will veil defects of thinking. A- truly great preacher and a profound i thinker once said in our hearing,.4' Rafflis, Sir? Rafll)s, sir I his sermons ; are lake gold leaf : they give to a bar of lead the appearance of , a solid ingot of the precious metal,-whereas but a thin layer covers the bas3 material." " We di n3t altogeth er agree, with the satire, because W3 feid assured that if the discourses of.Rafilis are net all sold, tncy, contain a very iair aamixiure oi tne auriter ous article.'. 7 ; . . , -...; . Dr. Raffles" 13 especially eff;ctiV3 when hs preaches' on the solemn realities of death and eternity. : No one, not even-the most stony hearted bearer," can sit ontnoved, 'Are imagine wh ilst he dwells on these momentous themes. Well do we remember' the effect! be produced Wheninany years "since he. was preaching at the Tabernacle, ia the city of Bristol. He bad been dwelling on, '-the uncertainty Jot life andj.thene cessity: of a preparation for the eternal state,-- v orcibly did he insist on the . brevity . of- human exisleWi,Xanjij p'erilsj mortal path: 7 At length, after "a most stirring passage, be suddenly paused, .and -then, with ah effect wo : never shall forget, quoted ' the stanza f i Infinite joy of endless wos "V Attends on every breath i'H .'. . -f f 'VjC 777- And yeti'li6w4Kieoncerhed ve 'ga.i.wi.ri The fine point,-if we- ma j; so speak,' mada bv Dr. RarHjs, ..was ia ' the utterance of the word ";yet." ; The marvel of human indifference arid mortal. carelessness, as evinced , inheedlessnass: of the uncertain ' tifixt moment; was never more fulfly7 illustfatated j; A whole: sermon ;frOm ihr most eloquint tongue could not more deeply have impressed iiMW 7 $-??.e?x 7' .The sermbns bf Dri Ranes arc usually short, seldom exceeding .thirty or. thirty five ' minutes iri theirrdelivery ;; and7jn : so limiting 4 hioiself we think ho acts wisely.--. Seldom is any salutary effect, produced. by -long xWearisorae -discourses, sermons whose-4 texts - are 1 forgotten before the terithly 1 is arrived at.f:fp ' Dr. Rafiiis, is, as be deserve? to - bfc, a great favorite in" the city-of his mTnistrt,7 bot h mbng the members of the Established Church, his own body, or the inhabitants- of the town generally; His cbngregation. is weakhy,and w3 understand that he- himself is not stinted of : this world's 500I 'thifigsf He is one, however, who d j serves ease ?pf : position, 5 for he is exceed insly charitabl3,77arid Tjriianyf a- priori hardTvorking brother minister has reaspn tp bless.his bounty. As a scientific inan7 he. stands high ; the attain ments pf.th.R philosopher add to the eminence of tue coristian. 1 uey are snauow inmicers wno suppose "that religion Tarid physical - science are not each the lovelier forthe'connectlbifwith'the other77;7. p0. 77 7"- &f:r ' j: Most men have their-hobbies We kn 3 w on 0 gentleman whose exceeding delight it is to col lect .walking-sticks. Liblache, the celebrated singer, has a passion for congregating snuffboxes. Dr. Raffles is famous as an autograph collector ; and it is said that he possesses one of the finest assemblages of the ban! writing? of ilia Urious men and women eitant, especially pf divines." 1 With-- him, however,7 a3 : a cariosity" hunter; we have nothing to do ; and'; so will contdude by the simplej'remarkhthatlwe believe there Is no minister in all England ? more -worthy than him-- tself to'be tbe ;;saca3ssor of the eloquent Tborrias f Snpn(or5- "rr'-.K '- VM''? V?'. 7.7V ;::7-?';:Incorisistencies; of BapUstsV;' J'TbeNashri odistjVattempts to point out what it regard? as claring inconsistencies, ,ca the part of Baptists. and asks to have, them explained. Wc will eu- dcavour to do it, for the benefit of our readers and. theirs. The first is : . "1: 77; : " They (the. Baptists) publish to the world that; Pedobaptist 7 denominations ' are neither churches of God,,' nor scriptnral organizations, and yet invito their ministers to pnach1 in their pulpits ! If Pedobaptist denominations are nei ther churches' of God, nor scriptural organiza tions, where did her ministers receive authority to preach ! I hey surely would not be guilty of in viting men " into their 7 pulpits . .who' had; never been 7 licensed : by a Christian church, or oven a scriptural organization. i 7"Ardyel such is the tact. ' 7 . :. . -' v,.,; v : . 7-,, . And what, inconsistency is here, 'pray ? If a church invites a man to -prcaeh a sermon, is not the .invitation, itself, a license . to preach that sermon ? Each church, being an independent body, Has the sole right to elect, call, appoint, and license its own preachers. An invitation from a church, to a man, to preach a: sermon is a lice:: 3 t3 preach that permon. If it choose, after-,vard.?, to give him a general license to preach, whenever he can get hezrerr, is can do so ; but such license 1 ro farce, tier cbl: nation in, cr over, any ether Oct contemporary -I'.I : thcrr; :rth'.tl.' fancied 'incc-nsuteney :.:-::ere rsr'-.l own,' by mixing- std. ce.r.;jundir? Bar cf Lis'nr Meth -t rnni:;!;s. lie prccrc-Jj : ' . " As P.c-blurt C 'churches cf Gol, not zation,' their ruiuisters a minister the ordinance have repeated time az l : ev :e r. j cf tstti'm. - T - j 'Tin, t!:it the of Pedobartist churches were V", : f 17 - 7 vet thev do take some cf thiir r.io:". t:. t: 3 Baptist church without re-l-aptism ! admitting the talidity of their Lipti"i Is not t'.'.s . Of course it is. ..An 1 t, .ty r 1 r? of Baptists is, not that tartisra d;i i rc-s ityfrora the administrator; but from I its valiJ - - administered to a true snd professed 1 . i:.;V'?r. on profession of faith. The essence of baptism ii tbis j Me burial of a believer. in tcater, in token of his repenlavcc and faith in Christ. Who ever has, in good, faith, been thus baptized, ia truly baptized, and needs no. repetition cfthe act. - - :" :. . : The third di&calty which the writer fiaJi Iti the practices of Baptists, is : ' "" ' " ;" ; r, l hey tell us that the reason we are not ad mitted to their communion table is that we Lave . not been immersed. et there . ere numbers in our: church who -have been immersed, who cannot rain admission to their coin inuuion ! Why is it ? Will they tell us that the ordi nance had not been performed bv a proper ad ministrator ? ' Then : why did you receive mem bers baptized by these - very administrators into your chbrch without re-baptizing them ? : "Airain : 1 here are members in env- chuTca that were b-icfizeil by your, own hauls, famt whom no charge of immorality has been fouad, and who. are riot permitted to -approach your ta ble 7 Is it because they had not been immers- . ed.?f lo I Was it for want of a proper admin- ministrator ? It was not, yourselves being jad- ses. Do eniin ten us, ior we acxnowieag? cur - mm . ym need of instruction.". 7 77 1 7 "-' v Well, here 13 some instruction for you. It is trne,htfiat ,we say you cannot be admitted to our Communion till you have been baptized, but we' have never said, that all who have been im mersed can be ad.nitted. Ours is not a religion of forms, but of faith.. Believers' baptism is a part of our faith. 7 It has its place in the Chris tian system. It must be believed in, as veil r.3 practiced.7 - ,BelievefsT 'baptism is a doctrine, as well as a;practiee,in Baptist churches. It 13 as mu'eh the duty of 7a Christian to honor bis Lord by rcceiving his word in respact to baptism, as in respect to the Lord's Suppar, br repsntaaee, or any. other doctrine, or duty. 777 r 7. " .. 7 We ttanot say to candidates for aarri'ssion to, oiir chureliesTefd:f"fofew vour own notion3 out "Baptism, you may be sprinkled, or pour ed,- or- baptized, you may be satisSed, with " what - was dons for you in infancy, or you may follow your Saviour's example in baptism, just as you like. Not we say to them, . 44 if you do riot receive the faith ; and follow the example of Jesuss Christ in Baptism, a? in other parts of : fuith and practice, you cannot enter our church es V Is. there any incensistency here? 7 " . 4- We .hope thti the inquirers of our cotempo rary are sufficiently answered.; If not, we will try to make;these points plainer still ; ' provided he copies the explanations which he has called but. Western Watchman. 7, . I did not give Enough for my CiIc.- A Bible distributor in Germany called upon a blacksmith and urged him to buy a Bible.- Being ignorant of the value pf the precious vol ume be rfefusedtp part with bis money to obtain -it77lt wir3 therir; offered to hira gratuitously, but he disdained to receive, it upon such terms. A compromise was at -length effected by hia agree ingfta give a fire-shbvelrfor the "book;; After the laboTSof the day were over; curiosity prompt-' ed him to look intothe book which be bad pur chasad ; arid as he read, bis heart was opened, and the character; of God was revealed to him. The depravity of bis nature, tho worth of his coul his need of a . Saviour, the preciousness of Christ, 7 were. deeply 'felt ; he 7 was melted to t-ears ; and as he wiped from his cheek the fill ing drops, be said to himself, " I did not givo enough for my Bible.". 7 Early in the morning he went intu his'shop, finished a pair of tongs, went ia search J . of the Bible distributor, , and, . finding him said, " My , dear, sir', please accept a pair pf tongs' with the shovel, I did cot give enough for my Bible." - ' ; . Minister's Salaries. - On3 of the worst "evils, on the whal.-ilr-?; relation between pastor "and people, 13 the fiuure to scctre for him pecuniary independence, when the people are able to do so. One can hardly understand, bow any one should fail to?e the truth on- this subject, or to practice it, did, we not sea such lamentable examples to the contra ry. The law anxiously provides for the indepen dence of "the judiciary by giving the judges an adequate salary, .and forbidding it to ha clrriin isheii daring the term for which they ere con; missioned. " Our organic law, both in Se.irturo arid the Constitution, is no less par'ticuhr a3 to the clergy i They are to be kept free from world ly care and anxiety. ;-As a general rule, they are not ?.y kept.- They are dejected by peca-' mary responsibilities they cannot .'meet, or by sacrifices they ought not to make. .Their fami lies: are often perplexed beyond measure, even to provide for the necessaries of life, while very few are abler to. purchase the books that are the very tools with which they work. . They feel their minds dwarfing and sigh for mental food, but do not deem it honest to go in debt even for what seems indispensable to theif preparalioa for the pulpit.' Worn out by long continued labcr, they are blamed if they take a summer journey. The temptation to be too complaisant to the rich, frets the honest; hearted minister, and perhaps leads hira to tho opposite - extreme 'of II:.:;urt:sy. Worse ;than all, perhaps be begins to therish hard feelings towards his fiock. Here are r:no- ple, lie feels, who are peifec-tlr t.? v. Jthoat CI -tressicg themselves, to" tale tsu nc-nte.i'. weight of pecuniary respcr.:77ih!y c.Tl.'s fieart, and they will not so much .3 hi it v, of their fngers.7 ZMnst lie r t ' ? ' human, if, with eucIi fc-ch-h , i-e : tie tenderness, fallll Lis p?.5t:rd c::. mcst diZeuU to sebocl ' his ' Lcsrt f -the brethren, who, he -f en: fir.: '7 : within hira, are Bir.r: z h;s :' feeling for those who, Le thr:;' tbiza with the revere; I i; :S ' iv-j. 3 ci Us :ry to ,-t. 3 cr; . i U if .... i 5 ? t n ( - rr to i- 7.1